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	<title>Comments on: Saturday lineups: Twins/Rangers</title>
	<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/christensen/2008/07/19/saturday-lineups-twinsrangers/</link>
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		<title>By: the Dragon</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/christensen/2008/07/19/saturday-lineups-twinsrangers/#comment-38688</link>
		<dc:creator>the Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/christensen/2008/07/19/saturday-lineups-twinsrangers/#comment-38688</guid>
		<description>thrylos98,

My post was not directed only at you, but at one of your posts.

It was more general.  You can dismiss the differences between Football and Baseball if you wish.

To cherrypick several instances where decisions didn't work out is myopic.

There is NO decision a player, manager or front office makes which is 100% guaranteed to work.  Generally Baseball where a 33% success rate is HOF credentials.

Many things can happen when a manager makes a decision.

a.) It is the correct decision, BUT the player DOES NOT execute the plan and the desired outcome does not happen.

b.) It is an incorrect decision, BUT the player executes and the desired outcome does occur.

c.) It is the correct decision, AND the player executes the plan, BUT against established rules, the opponent uses PROFESSIONAL ringers and they make a 1% play and the desired outcome does not occur.

d.) It is the incorrect decision, the player screws-up the execution of the plan, AND the beer league opponent joins the fun and screws up even worse than the manager and player and the desired outcome occurs in spite of collective ineptitude.

e.) there are any more thousands or millions of permutations.

f.) there may also be decisions made which are made less for the current game win, then to see how a player reacts/performs in a leverage situation.  I realize this is stupid because an untested player should NEVER be put in a high leverage situation in their whole career.  They have never shown they can handle it, so to put then in that position is incompetence.

Here are the stats from 2 rookie seasons:

G 30 IP 86 HR 11 BB 54 K 64 ER 62 ERA 6.49

G 36 IP 58 2/3 HR 11 BB 19 K 26 ER 34 ERA 5.22

Obviously BOTH are worthless and should be cut at 1st opportunity.

Regards,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thrylos98,</p>
<p>My post was not directed only at you, but at one of your posts.</p>
<p>It was more general.  You can dismiss the differences between Football and Baseball if you wish.</p>
<p>To cherrypick several instances where decisions didn&#8217;t work out is myopic.</p>
<p>There is NO decision a player, manager or front office makes which is 100% guaranteed to work.  Generally Baseball where a 33% success rate is HOF credentials.</p>
<p>Many things can happen when a manager makes a decision.</p>
<p>a.) It is the correct decision, BUT the player DOES NOT execute the plan and the desired outcome does not happen.</p>
<p>b.) It is an incorrect decision, BUT the player executes and the desired outcome does occur.</p>
<p>c.) It is the correct decision, AND the player executes the plan, BUT against established rules, the opponent uses PROFESSIONAL ringers and they make a 1% play and the desired outcome does not occur.</p>
<p>d.) It is the incorrect decision, the player screws-up the execution of the plan, AND the beer league opponent joins the fun and screws up even worse than the manager and player and the desired outcome occurs in spite of collective ineptitude.</p>
<p>e.) there are any more thousands or millions of permutations.</p>
<p>f.) there may also be decisions made which are made less for the current game win, then to see how a player reacts/performs in a leverage situation.  I realize this is stupid because an untested player should NEVER be put in a high leverage situation in their whole career.  They have never shown they can handle it, so to put then in that position is incompetence.</p>
<p>Here are the stats from 2 rookie seasons:</p>
<p>G 30 IP 86 HR 11 BB 54 K 64 ER 62 ERA 6.49</p>
<p>G 36 IP 58 2/3 HR 11 BB 19 K 26 ER 34 ERA 5.22</p>
<p>Obviously BOTH are worthless and should be cut at 1st opportunity.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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		<title>By: The New and Improved Craig</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/christensen/2008/07/19/saturday-lineups-twinsrangers/#comment-38687</link>
		<dc:creator>The New and Improved Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/christensen/2008/07/19/saturday-lineups-twinsrangers/#comment-38687</guid>
		<description>OBP  SLG  AVG
 .333 .465 .265 - Kubel 
 .307 .337 .265 - Tolbert 
 .316 .374 .262 - Harris
 .287 .353 .253 - Gomez 
 .324 .376 .252 - Cuddyer
 .250 .500 .250 - Clark
 .255 .290 .219 - Lamb 
 .280 .414 .204 - Monroe
 .235 .324 .189 - Everett

 .347 .518 .290 - Kubel vs. RHP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OBP  SLG  AVG<br />
 .333 .465 .265 - Kubel<br />
 .307 .337 .265 - Tolbert<br />
 .316 .374 .262 - Harris<br />
 .287 .353 .253 - Gomez<br />
 .324 .376 .252 - Cuddyer<br />
 .250 .500 .250 - Clark<br />
 .255 .290 .219 - Lamb<br />
 .280 .414 .204 - Monroe<br />
 .235 .324 .189 - Everett</p>
<p> .347 .518 .290 - Kubel vs. RHP</p>
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		<title>By: The New and Improved Craig</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/christensen/2008/07/19/saturday-lineups-twinsrangers/#comment-38686</link>
		<dc:creator>The New and Improved Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/christensen/2008/07/19/saturday-lineups-twinsrangers/#comment-38686</guid>
		<description>OBP  SLG  AVG
 .406 .500 .367  - Macri 
 .351 .451 .330  - Buscher
 .394 .524 .325  - Morneau
 .418 .466 .324  - Mauer
 .383 .471 .324  - Punto
 .359 .438 .319  - Casilla
 .413 .418 .316  - Span
 .340 .405 .299  - Young
 .324 .348 .290  - Redmond

The Twins are in a 3 way tie for team batting average at .281 with Boston and Texas. Only Boston and Texas have scored more runs than the Twins. The powerful Red Sox have only scored 16 more runs than the Twins, but the Red Sox have played 2 more games. Listed are the hitters (non-pitchers) who have contributed on the + plus side of .281.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OBP  SLG  AVG<br />
 .406 .500 .367  - Macri<br />
 .351 .451 .330  - Buscher<br />
 .394 .524 .325  - Morneau<br />
 .418 .466 .324  - Mauer<br />
 .383 .471 .324  - Punto<br />
 .359 .438 .319  - Casilla<br />
 .413 .418 .316  - Span<br />
 .340 .405 .299  - Young<br />
 .324 .348 .290  - Redmond</p>
<p>The Twins are in a 3 way tie for team batting average at .281 with Boston and Texas. Only Boston and Texas have scored more runs than the Twins. The powerful Red Sox have only scored 16 more runs than the Twins, but the Red Sox have played 2 more games. Listed are the hitters (non-pitchers) who have contributed on the + plus side of .281.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/christensen/2008/07/19/saturday-lineups-twinsrangers/#comment-38685</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/christensen/2008/07/19/saturday-lineups-twinsrangers/#comment-38685</guid>
		<description>If Gomez continues to struggle, i think there's a reasonable chance Gardy might move to 9th in the lineup.  But there's one thing all you Gomez bashers must come to grips with: Gomez will NOT be sent down to AAA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Gomez continues to struggle, i think there&#8217;s a reasonable chance Gardy might move to 9th in the lineup.  But there&#8217;s one thing all you Gomez bashers must come to grips with: Gomez will NOT be sent down to AAA.</p>
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		<title>By: sane</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/christensen/2008/07/19/saturday-lineups-twinsrangers/#comment-38684</link>
		<dc:creator>sane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/christensen/2008/07/19/saturday-lineups-twinsrangers/#comment-38684</guid>
		<description>thrylos98,
Are you interesting in being the Producer or Director of my PBS documentary entitled 'The Joe Vavra Story"?
Both jobs are currently available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thrylos98,<br />
Are you interesting in being the Producer or Director of my PBS documentary entitled &#8216;The Joe Vavra Story&#8221;?<br />
Both jobs are currently available.</p>
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		<title>By: thrylos98</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/christensen/2008/07/19/saturday-lineups-twinsrangers/#comment-38683</link>
		<dc:creator>thrylos98</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/christensen/2008/07/19/saturday-lineups-twinsrangers/#comment-38683</guid>
		<description>sane,

&lt;I&gt; I second that emotion&lt;/I&gt;

Vavra quits the Twins, buys 155.5 acres in Montana and becomes the Vavrarishi guru about hitting.  Disciples are rooming in tents and every day sweating on a diamond trying to kill the first pitch the master Vavrarishi Vavra throws at 66 mph, like Morneau did at the Home Run Derby. If they make 3 outs they are flogged not physically but by the masters piercing eye.  All clubs send representatives to study under him, he publishes his book under cliff notes, has a widely followed public access TV show and we all live happily after...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sane,</p>
<p><i> I second that emotion</i></p>
<p>Vavra quits the Twins, buys 155.5 acres in Montana and becomes the Vavrarishi guru about hitting.  Disciples are rooming in tents and every day sweating on a diamond trying to kill the first pitch the master Vavrarishi Vavra throws at 66 mph, like Morneau did at the Home Run Derby. If they make 3 outs they are flogged not physically but by the masters piercing eye.  All clubs send representatives to study under him, he publishes his book under cliff notes, has a widely followed public access TV show and we all live happily after&#8230;</p>
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