Gomez crashes into wall, leaves game on a stretcher
Posted on July 25th, 2008 – 6:26 PMBy Joe Christensen
CLEVELAND — Twins center fielder Carlos Gomez crashed into the outfield wall to make a first-inning catch tonight and lay on the warning track for several minutes before leaving Progressive Field on a stretcher.
Gomez, 22, appeared to injure his right hip. He raced into the left-center field gap to take a hit from Cleveland’s Ben Francisco. Grady Sizemore tagged up at second base and scored on the play.
From his side, Gomez flipped the ball to left fielder Delmon Young, who fired the ball back to the infield.
Updates as we get them.
Update (6:30 p.m.): Denard Span moved from right field to center field, and Jason Kubel entered the game in right field.
Gomez hit the wall at full speed, with the ride side of his body taking the brunt of the collision. After making the catch, he grabbed his right hip area.
Update (6:35 p.m.): Gomez was diagnosed with a lower back injury and taken to the Lutheran Hospital for precautionary tests. He had all movement and feeling, the Twins announced. Gomez was fitted with a neck brace on the field.
And Span has just crashed into the wall, too, in nearly the same spot. Span was shaken up but appears to be OK. He was trying to catch a two-run double by Kelly Shoppach when he collided with the wall, and the ball dropped out of his glove.
171 Responses to "Gomez crashes into wall, leaves game on a stretcher"
Nothing looked out of sorts when he was lying on the ground, hopefully that means it isn’t a dislocation.
stay away from the wall
Span almost went down too.
At least Livan is giving us fodder to replace him with Franchise.
Not a good start tonight. I think Liriano will be taking Livan’s turn in the rotation
Livan is going to get our outfielders killed tonight. The Indians are smashing the ball and our guys are crashing into the walls left and right. Span just came up limping after chasing the ball into the fence. Get rid of Hernandez and bring up Liriano!!!
Dear Mr. Smith,
Please, if you need to keep Livan around. Don’t let him start on the road again.
and this is a bad Cleveland team, Liriano needs to be up.
I want Franchise to replace Livan SOOOO freakin bad, but I just don’t see it happening. Livan is useless out of the pen, and even though they probably should, I don’t see them letting him go to some other team for nothing. Nobody’s going to give us anything for him the way he’s been playing and he’s not going to accept an assignment. But, gosh…not only are we going to lose with Hernandez pitching, he’s going to get all of our young guys hurt!!!
I don’t understand (and never will) the “he’s got experience” philosophy. Oh yeah, Livan’s got experience alright. Experience stinking.
It actually hurts to think of the fact that he’s in our starting rotation, and we’re in contention for the playoffs….and we have so many more viable options than him. I’d sooner bring Shooter Hunt up from Beloit than see more Livan.
down 4 against Lee? Start looking towards tomorrow. Every time i say something negative about the twins they make me eat my words. here;s hoping that happens again tonight
Get Livan OUT OF THE GAME…THIS is UGLY already and there are no outs in the 2nd inning!!!
I agree Livan’s not going anywhere. I just don’t understand the logic. 5-0 in the second inning. Just make him go away, please… He costs too many games. He’s won as many as he has because he’s gotten outrageous run support.
It won’t get much better with Boof…
I wish Livan would go to the hospital.
Too bad on Gomez…now if Livan suffered a career ending injury…nothing would be sweeter than that.
I sure hope this is Livans last start as a Twin. I don’t think he could look much worse through the order the first time. Pretty much every ball has been killed.
How can anyone in the teins management not see this coming????????????? This guy has helium in his ERA. Someone please send pisspoorpayerPohladsplane to get Franchise!!!!!!!!!!!!
That’s really tacky to ask for someone to be injured
Do we really have to do the wishing injuries on baseball players thing? Can’t we be a little better than that?
Mr Matt Geurts, I was thinking exactly those thoughts. Careful what you say on these threads for fear that the ProTector will ream you for saying anything derogatory about the Twins management.
“twins” - that is………..
At least we get to see Span in center tonight. Here’s hoping Gomez gets sent down to Rochester when Cuddyer comes back.
There’s a nice double from Kubel. Lee is hittable tonight, so don’t count these Twinkies out just yet.
Knock him in, Span.
Hey Tony - at least these are only words that the players will never see. You want to see physical abuse????? Take a look at what Livan is doing to our outfielders with his BP pitching. What a sorry excuse for an MLB pitcher.
One down, four more to go.
I never said he was a good pitcher. I don’t think it’s worth wishing harm on the guy though. He isn’t trying to be awful, he just is.
make that 5 for the win!
Twins work hard for the runs they score. Other teams get it easy against us. Just keep circling the bases….
I don’t wish harm on him, I wish Bullpen or Minor League or Designated for Assignment or for the front office to turn back the calendar to when they signed him (with a serious case of buyers remorse)
Well, then we are in complete agreement.
Nice double play to bail Livan out. With out the twins defense it would be 10-0 at the end of the third.
Yeah! An inning without Livan giving up a run!! Started with a double though….
down at the farm (Rochester):
Everett is 2 for 2 with an RBI
Ruiz has 2 RBI raising his average to .310 (he is something like .400 for July and .600 against LHP -hint hint)
Duensing is pitching 3 scoreless innings
Aflac Answer: Atlanta Braves
Wow. Their infield has us played PERFECTLY.
Discussion starter:
What does Minnesota do when Everett is healthy?
I’ll bet Gomez ends up on the DL.
Everett to a team with a terrible starting SS for late inning replacement… what we get back is low prospect
What do you do when Cuddyer is healthy??
Way to go Punto…
Casilla/Punto team up for an error.
Punto/Casilla BOTH!
But they redeem it on the next play.
Livan sure has a way of making .215 hitters like Guttirez look Ruthian. But don’t worry friends, everything is well under control. We have a plan!
Going Yard,
You send Gomez to Rochester and move Span to center.
Bad error by casilla. At least he got the second attempt right and got Livan out of another inning.
Twins Fix,
when Everett is healthy (and he is pretty healthy right now):
Punto traded
Everett the starting SS
i’d be for that thrylos
i really hate watching LNP play
Everett doesn’t get back on the roster if I’m BS. Punto does Everett’s job and covers more positions off the bench (where he BELONGS)
Thrylos98,
I would seriously hesitate to trade Punto. He has an outstanding glove most of the time, and did a fine job earlier this year when he was a defensive sub. I say resign him and keep him in that role.
As to Everett, I’m not looking forward to his .189/.235/.324 line. I would designate him for assignment, or trade him to some sucker team that is desperate. I can not imagine the Twins making him the starting SS. He already has four errors this year, in very small sample size.
But that is not considering what we can get out of Punto.
I’ll add that neither Punto or Everett will bring anything of value in a trade. If a team even wants them…
Punto and Everett both are FAs after this season.
just an observation:
why is Cliff Lee allowed to have a ‘foreign substance’ on his cap (looks like rosin and it might be, but it could be vaseline) and touch it before every pitch?
methinks that the rules are pretty straight about that.
If fans are serious about the playoffs, Punto is of much greater value over the long haul.
Everett is a SS. That’s IT.
Punto has multiple positions he can play which means in the playoffs he’ll be able to give Gardy more options off the bench and more flexibility in who he can pinch hit for (Punto can play 3B, SS, 2B, and OF in an emergency)
This would be especially helpful if (according to some) this team wants to go all the way.
methinks that the rules are pretty straight about that.
I’m surprised Gardy hasn’t been said anything yet.
Even the Indians are getting bored with this game. The Twins’ announcers are discussing the SF Giants recent sweep.. something of particular interest. But John and Dazzle are the best in the business. Right?
thrylos98…….
everett…sucks….deal with it.
livan hernandez sucks.
he is a lard ass too
a player with a gut like that should retire
Span is a machine.
Not that I would wish injury on anyone, but justice would be served if there was a wall around the mound that Livan could run into. Much like the Span v. Gomez situation that might just have taken care of itslef, it might make the Lirano decision a bit easier.
Seriously, if this team is going to make an effort to contend, Livan has to move to the pen or the waiver wire. His record has NOTHING to do with the way he’s pitched. Are you going to tell me that a guy like Rich Harden, who has half the wins Livan has, is half the pitcher. Be gone, livan.
Not that I would wish injury on anyone, but justice would be served if there was a wall around the mound that Livan could run into.
You could just get up and charge into the nearest wall at your place and I think we can call it even.
Not that I’m wishing injury on anybody or anything…
the twins have some serious decisions to make once Everett and Cuddyer are healthy. Based on the numbers, Everett doesn’t have the stuff to take anyones job on the current roster, and Cuddyer?? He would NEVER have made some of the plays in the outfield that we’ve seen from Span in the last few weeks. His bat is nothing to brag about this year either (the year after a major $$ signing) I’d much rather see Gomez in the lineup batting 9th, than Cuddyer in there.
Mr. Wolves, Didn’t you hear that Livan has joined Bill Smith, our Boof, and Gardy in participating in a Weightwatchers program? I didn’t either.
Another good night for Span. Its looks like the decision to bring him up, then have him leadoff took far to long and may have cost the twins some wins. Hopefully Gardy and Smith can learn from that mistake and bring up Liriano.
Wow. Morneau the rally killer. Maybe he should be batting 9th…
T,
Gardy just makes the lineup. During the game he has his head up you know where…
Going Yard,
It’s simple, really. Send Gomez to Triple A. Move Span to center. Put Cuddyer back in right.
Everyone’s happy.
what do you do with the other clowns???Boof, Bass, Livan, Everett, Lamb
If the Twins can hold them in the 6th and get a rally going in the 7th, I think the mood here might just change. We’ll see…
Guys, have you forgotten that (coming into tonight) Livan has pitched the most innings for the Twins this season. He gives the bullpen a night or two off. Sometimes you have to suck it up and know that the ball is going to be hit, isn’t that the reason there are 7 fielders behind him??
AAAAARRRGGGGHHHH…. and the freaking yankees just scored Nady and Marte from the Pirates for 4 guys only one of whom has any major league experience and he has like a 6 something era. Every year…. please make it stop. And then Gomez gone too? It was probably about time for him to take a break with the slump and all but I really wasn’t hoping it would happen this way. Guess this twins w/ 4 outfielders ‘problem’ has really worked out. Span comes in and gets a (precious, all of the sudden with the 4th most run-scoring twins in the league) RBI. Did I mention I HATE the Yankees? I can’t even enjoy their third place season w/out them doing something to piss me off!
I’ve said it time and time again…for the most part, Livan has ONE bad inning. He gets into big trouble and starts to look on the ropes.
Once he gets through that inning (for better or for worse) he usually settles down again.
It’s too bad the Pirates didn’t have a 3B the Twins needed. Maybe they could’ve struck a deal.
Tabata is one of the Yanks best prospects though. And Ohlendorf was good…. well against the Twins earlier this year.
Tabata? Heh. Wasn’t he one of the guys the Twins were asking about during the Santana talks?
“Hughes, Tabata, Jackson…” ?
T - are you Dick Bremer,…quit excusing bad pitching. You put your team down a five-spot in the first two innings, and you aren’t going to win many. Excusing “one bad inning” just bad logic. Five runs are five runs,…one inning, two inning, five innings. You give up five runs per game, and you are going to lose a lot more than you win.
yes he was
I have seen him play once in AA, didn’t do anything for me, but i know they are high on him.
Hey bclem: I’ve been saying that about Livan for a LONG time about Livan. Since like May. Before he sucked as bad as he is now.
Thanks Coom for speaking the company line on Liriano. Bunch of bastards
Discussion starter: six-man rotation?
I think that it should be seriously considered, but I can’t tell the Twins to do it. It would allow Liriano to come up, and would give the young starters an extra day off every week.
And don’t tell me that it messes with the mentality of the pitchers. They are professionals. If they can’t deal with it, they should leave.
Kubel got SCREWED in that AB. He had a 4-0 walk and the ump wouldn’t give it to him.
That Yankees trade just established what Beltre is worth (and it is not any of the current starters for the Twins)
Still I think that the best name of the players traded was Phil Coke
If they’re going to call up Liriano, they have to dump somebody to make room.
That would mean either Bass (move Livan to the pen) or Livan (5-man rotation)
If Liriano comes up, it’ll be a 5-man rotation one way or another.
So thrylos, do you think the Twins can maybe make Beltre happen now?
The Twins aren’t going to do anything. Coomer cleared that up bagging Liriano on the broadcast. What the hell is wrong with this organization. Its almost like they are pissed that they have a decent record this year.
T,
Why not a six-man?
Forget I said that. Stupid question.
THRYLOS:
I think you can buy the Big Phil of Coke at the Seven-Eleven, but I’m not sure.
I wonder, had this been Perkins or Blackburn or Slowey giving up 5 runs in a game…would people be as livid about it?
Mr. Shawn, (8:17) One has to wonder. This organization is truly a most reactive bunch. And that lousy umpire that allegedly screwed Kubel is from St. Paul.
T,
I think (based on what is written in the media outside of the Twin Cities) that the Twins are working to make Beltre happen.
On the other hand… Seattle has a rookie interim GM who wants to keep the job past this season. It’s a toss up
Denard with 3 hits vs. Lee tonight. The only bright spot really about tonight. Keith Law on espn has been dissing him and the Twins since they picked him. Nice to see that back in his face so far. Somebody even brought it up to him in an espn chat just maybe a month ago and he was all ‘well he hasn’t had many at bats yet in the majors.’ We’ll see Keith…. we’ll see. Lookin good so far Mr. Minor League prospect guru man…. we’ll see…
The fact Livan can give up five runs in two innings and go maybe another 6 speaks volumes of his poise.
His talent not so much, but his head’s in the game. Guys like Blackburn who get rattled after a bad play, big hit, or bad luck can learn a LOT.
Also, you can kiss any “CHEAP!” comment goodbye, as they could’ve just as easily been pulling Livan in games such as these rather than let him reach his innings bonus.
I dunno Daniel, the comments from Gardy in Joe’s first blog and the Commentary from Coomer and Bert just pissed me off. They were purposely trying to downgrade what Liriano did in AAA. Probably trying to give his agent a big F U.
Seattle has a rookie interim GM who wants to keep the job past this season. It’s a toss up
And you’ve got Smith as a rookie GM trying to prove he knows what’s best for this team.
I think that puts the two on a footing that makes it easier to deal than if it were Boston or New York trying to use their clout to force it (See Randy Johnson trade…)
Question: How do you keep an idiot in suspense?
By not answering that question.
I think DnB need to be careful with their words.
The Twins don’t want Livan to pitch a complete game…but they want to get to the bottom of the ninth.
Well…I’ll be damned.
Thank you Mr. Morneau.
that will help
Oh that ball was forked all right.
Really messed up when someone wishes a player to be hurt. Livan is 10-6 and pitching well. most of the posters here are seemingly non baseball players.
Win Twins!
that doesn’t hurt either
WOW who would have thought???
Ok. Seriously. We need TWO SACRIFICE FLIES.
TWO!
Wow, Cleveland’s bullpen is laughable. Seriously, we should go in with the game plan of just getting the starter out early, who cares how many runs we get off of him. The bullpen is as soft as warm butter.
PUT THE BALL IN PLAY MONROE!!!
Maybe Morneau’s homer will light up the Twins bats.
I wonder if the Tribe boards are lighting up with people calling Wedge a moron.
Twins need one more clutch hit with RISP like we have done all year.
Lamb hits for Monroe, Redmond hits for Lamb. No more backup catcher or third catcher (Lamb) on the bench…
Gardy reads the blog, i swear to god
Go figure….
that’s just unfair
I just wanted two sacflies.
That was all…
T,
the indians fan i know hates Wedge, didn’t like him last year
Oh COME ON!
Go figure. Well, at least the whiners will have something to enjoy about this game.
Young steals 3rd, wow.
Why take Monroe out? YOu need a fly ball to advance the runner at least…he’s more capable of that than Redmond.
Man oh man… still. Couldn’t get a guy in from 2nd with NOBODY OUT!
technically, not a steal
Can you say indifference when it’s the tying run going to 3rd?
Young had to steal third, he kept getting almost doubled off second.
Tell me how its not a steal? It was not a pitchers indifference. The base means alot…wild pitch, hard basehit he can score.
didn’t he look indifferent?
Friggin’ crap. But hopefully they got some heart back…
There goes LNP…
catcher, not pitcher.
tie run on 2nd w/ no outs, all we need is two fly balls, and we can’t get it out of the infield (two of them went to the pitcher). sad.
Blew a good oppurtunity for a comeback. The Twins play small ball all the time except when the situation really calls for it. Down by 1, no outs and a runner at second would have been a good time to try to bunt then get the sac fly.
Tie run on second 2 outs, is simple:
Sacrifice bunt to 3rd
Sacrifice bunt home…
Duh
don’t you love the manager of the millennium that the Twins have?
On 4 game losing streak, 2 out, tying run on second, bottom of 9th, yeah, I think this is just what LNP needs….ooops. He goes 0-4.
Well, they made the Tribe sweat. It’s more than they accomplished vs. the Yankees.
Yah, but Sobe, one was a lucky catch by the first baseman and the other a lucky bounce off the pitching mound.
Not that it matters much.
Well,
the Sox are loosing
and tomorrow is another day
and I so wish that Smith trades Toby for anything so he can deliver a message….
Tough loss… Why couldn’t have redmond bunted?
Thrylos
So you say that other media outlets besides the Twins cities outlets, say that the Twins are still negotiating with the M’s for Beltre. Its not that i dont believe you, but the only other rumor i heard that the Twins were still negotiating was from Jayson Stark’s Rumblings. Where else have you heard that the Twins are still trying to get this done?
Also I hope that Yankees/Pirates deal makes the M’s ask for less and get this deal done. Maybe just two or three good prospects could get it done without one of our young SP’s. Then the Twins could offord to trade Livan and a prospect to a team desperate for a back end starter and get a strong bull pen arm. That would be too good to be true though.
true.
what a waste of a comeback, and livan pitching pretty well after his typical one inning blow-up per game 
still, even if we can escape cleveland being 3.5 back we can be right back there with a sweep next week.
Actually Jermaine Dye just homered with AJ on to give Sox 6-5 lead, top of ninth.
Even though Livans first three innings cost us the game, his pitching late into the game saved the bullpen shich will hopefully help win a game too done the road for the Twins full schedule in the next week. That was the only thing good about his outing though.
PISS
Five losses in a row.
It has come to this. The brain trust has to decide if they want to cast the season aside this week or not. They’ve played their cute little Nickies. They’ve had their little Harris’ rutting around in the mud. They’ve tried to not believe that they’re a real team that has a shot.
Ok, Billy and Jimmy Pohlad. Send the message. Go ahead. Tell all of us that you think we can’t make it/don’t have a shot like you did last year.
The brain wizards act like they have a plan…they don’t. The fact is that since Andy MacPhail walked out the door this organization has done all it could to show that it is content with being “just short.”
Come on Billy Smith, Jimmy Pohlad. Here is your time. You have to decide with, 59 or so games left if you are real or fake. Take your peckers out and show us if you have the guts. You don’t have to “mortgage the future”…you can make moves that last beyond your precious opening night in April 2010. If you’re smart you can do both.
These guys could be…could be out of the race by the end of business on Sunday. If the Twins management lets another opportunity go by and, in essence, replicate the marooning of the locker room by trading Castillo last year then they can rot in hell for all I care.
You have a chance to win this effing division. Go. Do. It.
F. your “plan”
Otherwise get out of the way and find someone with some testicles and imagination to run the team.
You got your palace coming on line in a year. Throw us a crumb, for crying out loud.
Nick Punto?
thrylos, you’re crazy. redmond’s job was to hit the ball the other way , which he did. at the very least, he wanted to ground out so delmon could get to third. it was unfortunate it found garko’s glove. if that ball is 2 inches off to the right, that game is tied and the conversation is flipped to “wow what a move by gardy! he knew red would hit it the other way!”
and i haven’t heard of any “sacrifice” bunts to sacrifice the runner home. that’s a suicide squeeze, and harris was up. from what i haven’t seen harris bunt the ball all year, so i don’t think he’s the guy to do that.
well at least we didn’t lose just like the tigers just did, wow. that’s a killer.
what happened to the tigers?
The sad thing about the ninth was that even if Delmon Young was standing 30 feet from home plate he wouldn’t have scored. This is going to be a very tough week for the Twins, if they are 5 games out or better at the end of the next two series that is basically all you can ask for.
No, we have enough hitters.
tigers were up 5-4 in the 9th with 2 outs, the crowd’s going crazy. 0-2 to quentin, and jones floats a pitch over the plate and quentin singles to right. then falls behind 2-0 to dye and dye hits one out to right. jenks comes in and mows em down and the sox with 6-5.
the twins got beat tonight by a great pitcher, he’s been a great pitcher all year. other than the first inning, livan pitched great and kept the twins in the game. rafael perez is a pretty nasty lefty, and red’s hit was 2 inches away from being a game tying single. it’s unfortunate, but let’s not write this team off just yet.
Yep, whale. A couple of .290 hitters up, but just couldn’t get the job done. I don’t know what else we could do.
T., The Twins made the Indians sweat? OOOOOH, that’s quite an accomplishment. And whalefeet, Livan pitched great? What the hell are you smoking?
I would like to see the Twins keep Delmon in the 5 spot for the rest of the year. He seems to be the only one capable of hitting in the fifth spot right now. Denard had another good game in the lead off spot. Unfortunately I think the Twins might lose 2 of three from the Indians and 3 of 4 from the White Sox which would kill this season.
O - 11 since back from D.L.
Let’s play the hot bat!!!
again…forfeit in the late innings…too painful watching the Red Wings try and compete with MLB players
Put Harris at short for good…busher at third and send the grit to the Peoria single A team on youtube.
BTW…the was a two hop bouncer to 2nd. I thought we were going to see a slide into first from half way down the line.
Anyone read section 220…this is exactly the game he wrote about….no one to pose a threat in teh late innings in crucial situations.
Our MLB guys do their jobs and you see no panic in the visitors dugout because they see the guys coming up…who of course won’t get pinch hit for.
game over…
Damn. Close but no cigar.
not to worry bill smith - were fine, we dont need any help…the only difference between us and other teams, is that they hit homeruns, and we hit singles and occasionally a double–so just sit back in your big fat ass chair and do nothing again and we will be content to lose…oh by the way, did ya notice what the yanks just pulled off with prospects….too bad one of the best teams in america and the most fun teams has to have such second rate management….its sickening and its sickening to watch everyone just go by us in every way…our lack of effort on the mgmt level is just a low point for minnesota sports and it sucks…
Just got in. Reading the posts is fun.
Update on latest blog initiative which Gardy followed: Put Span lead-off and the offense will flourish. Good concept. Record 0-3 The team has scored 7 runs in 3 games while Span has been great 5 for 11.
Interesting 2.33 runs per game. Previous 16 games (since July 1) 96 runs 6 runs per game (AND that includes 2 0-1 losses).
Regards,
I think I am going to go scan the a.m radio dial to listen for the next 7 Twins radio ads that aren’t funny whatsover.
Ads aren’t funny…late innings are
I think we may need a LNP bobble head night to sell out against KC.
Go Twinkies
Mr Dragon, Welcome back! Careful!! Tonight might prove to be a landmine. Do not say anything negative (or more so), the Twins management and their ProTector’s might castigate you. So that you know what you missed: Livan pitched great; Span is an idiot; we played poorly in the outfield despite losing a player; The mighty Indians and their vaunted bullpen were sweating at the end while our vaunted offense couldn’t get the tying run home from second with no outs in the bottom of the ninth. Gardy and his coaches were again magnificent! ‘Nuf said.
what’s done is done. Tomorrow is another day. Biggest thing about tonight: I hope Gomez is ok.
that said, can anyone in this planet justify Gardy’s management of the game tonight?
From having Boof up and down since the second inning (and probably wasting him for the next couple of days, which means that ‘Bassy’ will be up soon) to those weird Redmond for Lamb substitutions….
If someone needs to go from this team it ain’t Livan… It’s Gardy
Daniel,
I actually got in during the 6th inning.
Livan got off to a bad start, not unexpected, YET pitched a complete game (bullpen not wasted). Basically pitched to his ERA, and the team had a chance to win.
Lee is a decent pitcher and pitched well. I hate to note that some of the Indians are also professional baseball players.
I think T had a good point, for ALL the sackcloth and ashes here, IF ANY of other starters had started out similar, NO/little crying would have occured, and if “GOD” had been pitching and threw such an effort, the comments would be how this game was the exception that proved him a HOF pitcher and in future the annual pitching award would be re-named the Francisco Liriano Award (i mean Cy Young is so passe).
Its funny, I’m still alive, Guinness is just as good, the sun is likely to come up tomorrow.
I’m still a bit confused about how a 4-5 loss is BAD, while a 0-1 Loss is GOOD. I’m personally not partial to either, AND life is good.
Regards,
bert actually said at the end of the gam, “great twins comeback”, thats something I tell my little leage team. this team and management don’t know how to win. just hang untill the new joint is built
Mr. Dragon, Fortunately, you weren’t playing defense for the Twins during Livan’s outstanding outing. The first four innings were frightening and frightful, until the Indians seemed to get bored and revert to their mediocre selves. Stats aside, Livan, at least on the road, is both scary and pathetic. I only hope that Gomez is OK. The shots hit off of Livan could have been the backdrop to the conclusion of the 1812 Overture!
Dang, not really the type of game that I was expecting from Livan, although, I must give him credit for staying in the game and preserving the bullpen for this stretch of games coming up.
Five runs in the first 2 innings, and then settled down. The first inning probably would have ended differently too, if not for the injury. I personally think that Gomez would have had that ball that Span dropped. Not only that, but no way that the first run scores on that ball that Gomez caught sans the injury. Overall, limiting the damage was all that Livan could do, and he at least did that much. Not one of his normal games though, he didn’t get blown out, and he didn’t pitch lights out.
If Gomez is DLed, the Twins should call up Randy Ruiz. He can’t play any positions, but between Kubel and Monroe they should have RF covered and Ruiz can DH.
Stupid question, but does anyone know if Lamb is capable of bunting? I know that he came from the NL, so it stands to reason that he may have been called to bunt on occasion. If he is capable, why wouldn’t Gardy have left him in to bunt in that spot?
Get your runner over to third with one out, and you have a very, very good chance to score him.
Sure, I know that RedDog hit it to the right spot of the infield and all that, but what good is it if it isn’t on the ground? Keep Redmond alive to hit for Punto if it comes to that. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb.
Please no more posts about Livan doing a great job saving our bullpen. If this is what you are hanging our hat on, stop it. All the people still effusively praising Levon are making fools of themselves. HE CAN’T PITCH AT THE MAJOR LEAGUE LEVEL. If you think he can you just don’t understand baseball. When your team is down 5-0 in the first couple of innings….Ugh, you people are insane. I’ve admitted plenty of mistakes, I thouught Boof was going to be a top tier pitcher. I bet a freind that he would throw a no-hitter this year. I was wrong, Boof is not very good. Livan is not even close to being a capable pitcher, not even close. If you don’t trust stats, trust your eyes, check the twins infirmary were wounded outfielders lay, admit that your wrong!
not really the type of game that I was expecting from Livan????
His road ERA is over 7.00!!! did he exceed your expectations tonight??
Mr. Dragon, So that you know that I haven’t gone completely off the deep end…I am truly happy that the Guinness, in fact, still tastes good and that Old Sol will again reappear manana. Let us hope that together (pulling from opposite sides of the country) we can help draw our young pups to a much needed victory! Good night and regards to you, sir.
Alexander Soto, Elizabethton C.
Current stats:
61 AB; .377 BA; 9 HR; 21 RBI; .934 SLG; 1.376 OPS
That would project to 72 HR, 168 RBI over 488 AB.
Small sample size, but very nice projection.
Evets,
You are obviously correct. I was so sure NO other team in baseball would have such trash pitching at the major league level, I looked over the box scores starting Friday a week ago.
I’m amazed how many stupid baseball clubs there are.
Burress, Baltimore
Cabrerra, Baltimore
Balckburn, Twins
Wells, Colorado
Danks, ChiSox
Robertson, Detriot
Wellemeyer, St. Louis
Grienke, KC
Laffey, Cleveland
Kuroda, LA Dodgers
Hernandez, Twins
ALL gave up atleast 5 runs in the 1st 2 innings.
Think how much $$$ the Dodgers paid for the bum Kuroda.
Regards,
Evets,
I will gladly claim I am wrong, WHEN you show me the rule change which selects play-off or World Series teams by ERA, WHIP, whisper from the Tooth Fairy or any other criteria which does not includes wins or losses.
Until that time, I will resist being happy about a 0-1 loss or condemn a 9-8 win.
I may be old, but wins are still the criteria to make the playoffs. Over the course of any year each team will probably win 10 games they should have lost, and lose 10 games they should have won.
Regards,
When winning despite deficiencies prevents you from correcting those deficiencies, winning is deadly.
Football points that out more clearly than does baseball.
The football team that wins the first game makes no changes (corrections) because “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!”
The football team that loses the first game knows that they have to make corrections (adjustments) and they improve themselves.
Thats why the losing football team often wins the rematch when it “really” counts.
Winning may be “the goal” but winning GAMES the wrong way can sabotage a teams chance for winning a CHAMPIONSHIP.
