Updates: Young’s ankle, Everett’s hand, etc.
Posted on August 18th, 2008 – 11:35 PMBy Joe Christensen
Twins left fielder Delmon Young jammed his ankle trying to catch Jack Cust’s fourth-inning double in Monday’s 3-2 loss to Oakland.
Manager Ron Gardenhire said Young alerted him to have a pinch runner ready in case he reached base in the ninth inning, but Young struck out, completing an 0-for-4 night.
Afterward, Young predicted the ankle injury wouldn’t be an issue Tuesday. Gardenhire wasn’t so sure.
“He’s got a very sore ankle,” the manager said. “He limped up the stairs. The doctor checked him out. We’ll see how it feels [Tuesday].”
Young was charged with his eighth error of the year in the sixth inning, when he misplayed a single from Cust, allowing him to reach second base. The fans booed Young after that play and after his strikeouts in his final two at-bats.
It was a rough night for Young, but Gardenhire did not fault him for not catching Cust’s double.
“It’s a tough play,” Gardenhire said. “It’s not an easy play when the ball’s slicing away from you like that. You can’t take your eyes off it, and you can’t find the wall. That’s a tough play.”
(*) As mentioned earlier, Adam Everett does not expect to go on the disabled list with his bruised right hand. Gardenhire did say he expects Everett’s hand to be sore, however, and a DL move would free up space for when Alexi Casilla returns from his rehab assignment for Class A Beloit.
Tonight, Casilla went 1-for-3 with two walks.
(*) Another disturbing performance for Jesse Crain, who allowed a bunt single, a stolen base and a walk. Craig Breslow came in and pitched out of that ninth-inning jam, however.
On Saturday, Breslow replaced Crain and allowed two inherited runners to score before turning in 2 1/3 innings of scoreless relief. This outing lowered Breslow’s ERA to 2.41.
462 Responses to "Updates: Young’s ankle, Everett’s hand, etc."
we need Bulpen help.. Get it done billy
allowed a single? it was a bunt single off the end of the bat by a very speedy runner. the stolen base wasn’t crain’s fault, and it obviously got him thinking about other things than pitching to suzuki (he went ahead 0-2, then walked him). it’s not like anyone hit him hard.
anybody know of a place to look up run support for pitchers?
thanks.
I wouldn’t call Crain’s outing disturbing…but I would call the white sox recent power surge disturbing. It was a great game today, but unfortunately Kubel couldn’t come through. About a month ago Kubel was asked how much it helps him to bat behind Mauer and Morneau. His response: not a lot. That is disturbing.
Can’t we just accept tonight’s game as a loss because the other team was better tonight? They pitched a little bit better. Doesn’t mean the Twins’ offense is terrible, doesn’t mean the team is doomed and will not make the playoffs. They lost a game, and it happens in baseball.
I will say, however, that Delmon’s AB against Ziegler was pathetic.
Steve,
Not making excuses for Delmon, it was a terrible AB indeed, but I think a lot of people have had pathetic ABs against Ziegler over the past several weeks. The guy’s been unhittable.
Mauer and Morneau got to him, but they’re our two best hitters, and he left some pitches up.
The ABs to Young and Kubel, everything was at the knees and moving like hell. Young swung at a few out of the zone, but Ziegler was filthy there.
He seemed really uncomfortable pitching from behind in the count though… the 4-pitch walk to Lamb (The last two pitches weren’t even close), and Mauer’s triple both came after he fell behind 2-0, I believe… Hopefully they stress taking a pitch instead of going up hacking, like Young always does and Buscher did tonight.
And Whale, it wasn’t even a bunt single… it was a broken bat chopper that died… no faulting Crain for that one. Buscher simply had no play because Rajai Davis is like lightning down the line.
It’s for a very good cause, but please could we schedule the charity waiter event some other time than late in the season? I don’t know if the waiter gig had anything to do with it, but the whole team seemed totally lifeless and totally out of sync last night.
I’m surprised that very first pitch HR didn’t wake them up but no it was sloppy play after sloppy play. For a team without much HR power they can’t afford to play sloppy. The SP goes a rare 8 innings but then gets no run support. It was a total team sleepwalking effort.
Al Reyes was released by the Rays. He’s struggled this year and is injury prone, but when he’s right he’s better than any reliever we have outside of Nathan. As desperate as we are for bullpen help, I wouldn’t be surprised if Smith shows some interest.
Kubel doesn’t see good pitches because he doesn’t have anyone after him. Young, I hate to say, doesn’t strike fear in any pitcher.
[…] Originally published by Around the Majors […]
Romer: “He’ll come back though. Just ask TNIC. Delmon is quite young.”
Young is young.
Why would batting behind Morneau and Mauer help jason kubel? I could see where batting in front of Morneau would help him, but not behind. Kubel’s batting .280 with 17 HRs, and i don’t think he’s a problem.
Carlos Gomez.
The read is:
AB OBP SLG AVG
June Total:
123 .266 .309 .236
July Total:
82 .256 .268 .220
August Total:
42 .261 .190 .190
The fans booed Young after that play and after his strikeouts in his final two at-bats.
Another fine example of “What have you done for me lately syndrom.”
With the exception of his dinger a few days ago and then a few hits in the Seattle series, Morneau’s been stone cold.
No boos for him when he killed a couple of rallys last night.
*pfft*
Also FTR: Oakland managed to take a game from Chicago recently (remember, that’s how the Twins tied it this last time)
I’m still hoping somebody can help answer what the other 3-4 wins came from.
I’m with you T, Morneau was the opposite of clutch last night. I hope booing Young isn’t a race thing but I have my doubts. (and yes I know there are other players of color that play for the Twins and don’t get booed) For some reason Twins fans have never really accepted Young. I thought after his HR of Rivera that things might change but the “average” fan just doesn’t seem to care for Young. Never mind that he is hitting almost .290 and is fourth on the team in RBI’s. I understand that he hasn’t had as much power as people expected but he is not far behind his pace of HR’s from last year. His OPS is actually higher this year than it was last year.
I just wish the fans would get off Young’s back for a couple of weeks and let him play.
Gardy says he doesn’t want to wear out Kubel in the OF.
Since Gardy is going to play Punto, he should consider using Harris some in the OF. Harris has hit much better the last two months.
Tom Kelly used to say a SS can play anywhere. Maybe that was Gene Mauch. Anyway, if Harris is reasonably competent at SS, he should be athletic enough to play some in RF, when Kubel cannot.
Gomez has been pathetic for three months.
Young does not deserve the boos. He is a fine player, that is only going to get better.
Gomez needs to ride the pine, only to come in games as a pinch runner. Didn’t the Twins have a guy named Jarvis Brown in 1991, whose only role was pinch runner?
How good was Mauer yesterday?
Morneau has been cold for a couple of weeks… hopefully it’s just a couple of weeks.
Mauer has been a double play machine.
While I don’t agree with booing a player, the reason that Young gets booed and Morneau doesn’t has nothing to do with race.
In the field, Young looks like he is playing at half speed. It is probably just an illusion but he appears to be slower than molasses out there. I feel that he should’ve caught Cust’s double and that cost us the game.
At the plate, even though Morneau is slumping he never looks overmatched and usually puts the ball in play. Young on the other hand looks overmatched often and flails away at any pitch. In Youngs 4 ABs last night he only saw about 10 pitches total (and 6 of those were on the 2 Ks).
If people are booing Delmon Young, at the dome, they are acting very stupid.
Delmon is still very raw. His plate discipline is awful, and his fielding needs a lot of work. Extraordinarily quick hands, is why he is in the majors. He can bring the bat through the zone, with amazing quickness. Most players don’t have that skill. If he was just average in that department he would be in AA. Aside from that quickness, most of the rest of his game right now, looks like a AA player. He’s still learning how to play.
Young will get better. One of the best things the Twins could do for Delmon, is move him to RF where he belongs.
steve,
“Not making excuses for Delmon, it was a terrible AB indeed”
I’ll make an excuse.
Delmon was batting on a jammed ankle against an excellent pitcher.
The boo-birds should try it sometime, when THEY get to the Big Leagues.
Since I wasn’t on to defend myself last nite:
Yes, they were behind, but given that they were at home, there was no chance they’d ever be ahead after the 8th. Nathan still has very, very, very few innings pitched this year. As the highest paid pitcher, and the best pitcher, I’d like to see him in there more often.
I didn’t say bring him in in the 8th, but if you want to put straw man arguments out there, go for it.
Gardy said, Nathan will be pitching more. Since then, he’s not pitched more.
Do I need to go back and point out how little he’s actually pitched? He pitched 29 pitches the game before. How about the 2 weeks before that?
The reason the bullpen in front of Nathan is worn out is that they baby Nathan. Look at his innings pitched, compared to the other guys. Look at the innings pitched compared to other relievers. Look at the innings pitched compared to his previous years.
If they are going to win, they’ll need the other guys to be more fresh. Until they expand the roster, the only way that happens is if starters pitch better, or Nathan pitches more, or both.
I think some of the animus toward Young is who he is not, personality-wise. He doesn’t have Puckett’s or Hunter’s loquaciousness. He isn’t a regular, beer and bowling Kent Hrbek. Even GoGo shows more emotion and excitement to be playing “at the major league level.”
In short, it doesn’t appear from his demeanor that he loves the game. His mannerisms, dour visage make it seem like it is a real bother to be in the majors and have to deal with things like, oh, interviews, fans, etc.
I lost a lot of “love” for the guy when he basically ignored Marney after his homer and came across as an ass. Nobody disses our Marney and gets away with it!
One thing I’ve noticed after living in this market for 30+ years…Minnesotans don’t dig surly and cranky. We want to like you, we want you to like us and we want you to look like you like it here and love playing here for us.
Delmon needs the same “consultant” that Tom Kelly went to after he was told about his persona. Oh, and Young is young.
Just curious, why is it ok to cheer, but not to boo? These guys get paid millions (eventually). They crave attention and cheers and adulation. What do they expect when they don’t do well?
I can handle a loss like last night a lot better than some losses. They got behind, and they lost. It happens. Though of course I was hoping for a comeback in that eighth inning.
I hate the losses like in Seattle where they were six runs up then lose, or in KC that last Sunday where they squandered away the win, or the games they very well could have lost to Seattle this past weekend.
I wonder how many posters on here today (including 220 and LEN) will start the familiar “I guess the team isn’t as good as we thought”, “they are not contenders”, etc.. chants. All it takes is for one loss to bring them out in full force.
“why is it ok to cheer, but not to boo?”
Its OK to do either.
As soon as I think that:
1) its helping Delmon to be booed as a young player by his home fans;
2) and that the booing will improve his performance
3) And THAT will help the Twins win games;
then I will stop bitching about the booing.
Or I could just lose interest in the Twins winning games.
“Look at the innings pitched compared to other relievers.”
Ok. Here are some other closers.
Joe Nathan - 53 G / 53 IP
Francisco Rodriguez - 57 G / 51.1 IP
Jonathan Papelbon - 52 G / 53.2 IP
Brian Wilson - 49 G / 48.2 IP
Joakim Soria - 50 G / 54.2 IP
Jose Valverde - 57 G / 56.1 IP
George Sherrill - 53 G / 50.1 IP
Brad Lidge - 53 G / 51.1 IP
Mariano Rivera - 50 G / 55 IP
Troy Percival - 41 G / 39 IP
Billy Wagner - 45 G / 47 IP
Kevin Gregg - 58 G / 57 IP
Trevor Hoffman - 40 G / 37.1 IP
Averages for guys not named “Joe Nathan” - 50.42 G / 50.1 IP
So, it looks like 1 IP per game. Which is exactly what Joe Nathan averages. Looks like he is being used like the average closer. If you don’t like the way that closers are used in baseball, I can understand. But they aren’t babying Nathan - at least not any more than the average closer.
“The fans booed Young after that play and after his strikeouts in his final two at-bats.”
I know everyone thinks I’m Mr. Negative here, but I’m really not.
Here’s what I have to say on this topic:
First off, I read someone above mention race as a possible motivator–I can’t even believe I’m addressing this, but that is complete nonsense, so let’s not stoop to the level of even bringing it up, people.
Secondly, Twins fans don’t boo enough! I get a kick out of sane and others above who make it seem like it’s a crime against humanity to boo a professional athlete…to quote a fellow poster’s username: “You’ve Gotta Be Kidding Me!” Twins fans, for whatever reason, have discovered a way to boo guys like A.J. Pierzynski and Derek Jeter, yet we all feel we need to go to confession if we even dream of booing one of our own in a situation where it’s absolutely warranted.
All I have to say is go to any other ballpark in America, folks. Paying customers demand hustle, and they demand results. When you see something on the field that looks unprofessional, you voice your displeasure. You don’t say “Oh, we’ll get ‘em next time, it’s okay.”
I love Twins baseball; I was raised on Twins baseball. But you have to admit, the Minnesota Twins and their fan base run the most G-rated operation in all of pro-sports. We have a dorky bear doing dorky dances between innings…you’ll hear maybe one pop song written after 2000 between innings…ect. ect.
Booing is not hate speech. Booing is not racism. Booing is not the end of the world–it’s every fan’s right. We spend our hard earned money on these games and if we see something that resembles what you might see on a Little League field, it’s absolutely appropriate to boo. I wish more Twins fans would grow up and quit pretending this game is a production of the Children’s Television Workshop.
I think Twins fans thought they were getting a Henry Aaron or a Frank Robinson, when the Twins traded Garza for Delmon Young. That’s the level of player I would expect, in return for Garza. The Orioles received Frank Robinson in exchange for Milt Pappas. Young is likely always going to be a bit of a disappointment, considering what the Twins gave up.
Booing is OK, when a player deserves it. It’s a tough line to draw though, and who draws it? For me, veterans making bonehead plays repeatedly can be booed, as can players that are consistantly awful over a long stretch of time. It is also OK to boo pitchers that can’t throw a strike. Just my 2 cents.
Also, 2 strikeouts in a game doesn’t warrant booing in my book, but 3 does. So does 2 GIDP in one game by one player.
And I love how whenever a local player gets boo’d at the Dome, it gets reported as if some of us need to go to confessional. I’m not picking on Joe C. here, either, it’s just another example of how silly and childish this baseball culture has become.
Booing doesn’t mean the fans don’t want you or the fans hate you…it shouldn’t be big news like someone got shot or something…it’s the fans voicing their displeasure on a given night or a given play. Get over it. I seriously doubt D Young is too concerened about it, so why must we address it like it’s some huge dramatic deal…”Ooooh, Twins fans are booing…did you hear that….there was some booing….and it was of a Twins player….oh my, cripes, can you believe that….”
Honestly, it’s called tough love…we want you to improve…but we’re also not afraid to let you know when things are unacceptable.
Good for the fans last night.
The issue isn’t Delmon being booed…it is the fact Delmon is booed while the other players aren’t in the same situation.
I personally can’t understand the hate towards Delmon. He has given this club everything we should have expected based on his previous year and his youth.
“Look at the innings pitched compared to his previous years.”
I almost forgot about this part as well.
2008 - 53 G / 53 IP
2007 - 68 G / 71.2 IP
2006 - 64 G / 68.1 IP
2005 - 69 G / 70 IP
2004 - 73 G / 72.1 IP
2003 (SF) - 78 G / 79 IP
Averages for 2003-2007 - 70.4 G / 72.2 IP
Projected finish for 2008 - 69 G / 69 IP
So, again, it looks like it is right on pace to finish within his ‘average’ season, especially if Gardenhire uses him in some longer outings from here on out.
As for the merits of D Young’s play…first of all, I’m not buying Gardy’s excuses on the outfield play…we’ve seen enough left fielders come through here over the years to know that ball should be caught when it grazes your glove, yes, even at the Metrodome. Is it a tough play? Yeah, I think that’s fair. But it’s also one that has to be made…
As for the last two at-bats…they were ugly. The 9th inning strikeout…he had no chance…he just went up there flailing at three pitches…it was as if he didn’t want to make it an at-bat (the pitcher was actually struggling to nibble at the corners; he wasn’t throwing gas down the middle).
So we were all (myself included) pumped up about Young after his two big games last week…and I think we all see the potential is absolutely there…but being 22 doesn’t excuse unprofessional play when you are at the Major League Level…
Craig has hit the nail right on the head. Garza, remember, was untouchable a few years ago in talks with the nationals for soriano and the rangers for Blalock (I’m so glad we didn’t get Blalock). Then the twins no longer think he’s untouchable, and trade him for delmon young. Then, Delmon, through no fault of his own, gets super hyped through the media and Twins management types. Now, Delmon is having an OK year, but not the superstar year some were expecting. That, I think, has a lot to do with the unjustified booing of delmon young.
The issue isn’t Delmon being booed…it is the fact Delmon is booed while the other players aren’t in the same situation.
Exactly. Other players (including Mr. MVP Morneau) blew big opportunities last night. But only guy booed? Delmon.
Consistency of opinion seems to be a problem in Twins Territory.
If this were Morneau getting booed, you can bet your butt some of the people on here would be singing a different tune about it.
jason,
“I get a kick out of sane and others above who make it seem like it’s a crime against humanity to boo a professional athlete”
My exact words were “its OK to do either” (boo or cheer)
You paraphrase that as “sane and others above who make it seem like it’s a crime against humanity”.
No hyperbole there!
Does it help win games?
No.
That’s my issue.
this just shows how stupid some fans and actually people are in general. souhan writes a few stories first making him the next babe ruth and when that doesn’t happen (shock) he hammers the guy. so casual fans figure souhan is the expert we should boo the guy. young has, at times looked bad like most every player on the team. he has made steady improvement over the year which can’t be said for some of the other players who never get booed. punto goes a month hitting .180 and fans never boo him. blogers get on him him but how often does he get booed after an 0-5?
AaronK,
What other player, besides Punto, should be boo’d? Morneau? Kubel?
I’ve said it’s a shame Kubel hasn’t progressed as we thought he would, but Kubel isn’t an everyday player and even though his defense is below average and he has no speed, he still produces.
The only other two position players who should be boo’d with more frequency are Punto and Go-go.
The bullpen…I agree with you there, those guys should be boo’d off the field at times…
But again, this is not the case of singling out a player in my opinion….although, you know what, a lot of fans aren’t dumb, either–we’ve all seen the YouTube footage of Young chucking a bat at the chest of an umpire…I know that’s in the past, but that’s not exactly a likeable quality that goes along with the G-rated brand of Twins baseball that I’ve described above.
Totally agree, gobble.
You’re joking right, T? You want Morneau to be boo’d?
As soon as Young becomes an All-Star, wins a league MVP, hits more than 30 bombs for two straight years, and THEN has a stretch where he doesn’t come through, I’ll be more than happy to bite my lip.
Morneau has played every game this season; he rarely looks unprofessional at first base…he takes good at-bats, draws a lot of walks, has power, gets the little hits, and doesn’t complain.
Do you sense a difference here? Do you sense why maybe one player might get boo’d and the other doesn’t?
It’s hard to know how players feel about being booed by the home crowd.
Gary Templeton responded to the being booed by the home crowd, by giving Cardinal fans the finger.
That would still be a big no-no today, but at the time it was considered really outrageous behavior. It was funny though. They deserved it.
I don’t recall, did Morneau get booed in 2005?
so before the game the boys have a stadium walk through. dicky b. who has exhibited a man crush on punto is walking hand in hand with nicky checking out the stadium progress. loved it!
contract extension on the way!!
If anyone watches the Twins they know DY can look great sometimes and look like crap sometimes. Last night was just a night of him looking like crap. Even in the last game when he hit a 3-run homerun, I think he struck out with the bases loaded and no outs. He is similar to Gomez except Gomez is starting to look like crap most of the time.
The players who should get boo’d are the ones whose names rhyme with ‘boo’. That way they won’t know if they are getting boo’d or getting their names called out.
So here you go: Boof, Punto, Lew…(oh wait…)
just kidding folks. Just trying to have some fun in the ‘booing’ conversation.
“I’ve said it’s a shame Kubel hasn’t progressed as we thought he would, but Kubel isn’t an everyday player and even though his defense is below average and he has no speed, he still produces.”
You just can’t help yourself, can you?
Kubel is progressing just fine. Unless you want to bring up how he is hitting home runs instead of doubles again.
Oh forgot one. Kubel. Sorry.
Plunkton,
You forgot:
Ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
and
Kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Young runs like an old man, and he is 22-23 yrs old. He looks like he is as stiff as a board, no flexibility for a young guy, either. Swinging aimlessly at first pitches is his biggest fault. He will get better at not chasing the breaking ball away with more experience, but he could stop now with the weak chops on first pitches. I can’t believe the Twins continue to let him take this same approach to the plate at bat after at bat. Geez, work the count a little. I coached 14 year old boys in travel baseball that did a better job of working the count than this guy.
I don’t understand the Kubel hatred that pops up on here from time to time. Is it cause he doesn’t shave?
Craig…yes, sorry again! RUUUUIIZZ I better think a little harder next time I post something on here.
nicky is really sneaky, he hears casilla is nearly ready to come back so he knocks everett out so he can keep getting after it and battling. no wonder gardy loves him!
He’s battling his tail off.
I like that gardy plays punto every day. It’s worth it, for the one spectacular defensive play you get every 5 games.
anybody know of a place to look up run support for pitchers?
Wow short attention span in the Twin Cities, Delmon Young is the hero last week and boo’d out of town last night.
“I’ve said it’s a shame Kubel hasn’t progressed as we thought he would, but Kubel isn’t an everyday player and even though his defense is below average and he has no speed, he still produces.”
He is today’s Randy Bush. Good player.
The twins need to start wearing football linemen’s gloves, to protect there hands. Not even safe in the dugout, anymore.
I think that Kubel might be a tad better than Randy Bush.
“Young runs like an old man, and he is 22-23 yrs old. He looks like he is as stiff as a board, no flexibility for a young guy, either”
That’s nothing that a little booing won’t fix.
All our other 22 and 23 year-olds aren’t having any problems.
More like a left handed Pedro Munoz, at this point in his career.
LOL yeah, Kubel’s way better than Randy Bush, Craig…nice try.
Kubel is an average player, plain and simple. They use AAA players in place of him against lefties…he’s a good dude to have around but he’s yet to make the leap like Cuddy did in ‘06, where you have to pencil him in everyday. I like Kubes though…I was hoping his hot series v. Seattle would carry over….the DP last night hurt, but maybe he comes back with a strong game tonight!
Kubel is going to have a better career than Cuddles, IMHO.
I’ve got two world series rings. How many does Mr. Kubel have?
Matt Garza is an injury prone head case. The guy can be almost unhittable or he can get rocked. 10-7 3.65 ERA. Pretty solid but not spectacular. Jason Bartlett has 0 HR and 21 RBI with a 305 OBP and 266 average while striking out 50+ times while being injured. I’ll take the guys we got. Young was horrible in the field last night and should have got booed for that. But has been coming around at the plate. Harris also can’t field but is putting up WAY better numbers at the plate than Bartlett.
I have no world series rings and Randy Bush couldn’t kiss my …..
Why didn’t TK start his utility infielders every day? Me, Newman, and Hocking all got after it. I guess TK didn’t value getting after it as much as Gardenhire does.
Bush was actually a better player than Kubel. Better OBP, more speed, better base-runner, more versatile(could play 1B), equal power, equal AVG. Bush batted often in the 2 spot, so he had fewer RBI. He had the awful Gladden and Gagne(#9 hitter) in front of him. Neither of those two were often on base. Kubel has a couple of .300 hitters in front of him, with high OBP.
Bobby Kielty has a WS ring…Doug Mientkewicz has a WS ring….
Sometimes it may just have a little to do with who you’re playing with to get a ring.
I don’t have any rings, either.
“Kubel is an average player, plain and simple. ”
Except for the fact that he has an OPS that is 20% higher than the average player.
But, again, you will completely ignore any information shown to you that proves that point. You will continue to find ANYTHING to use against him, like the fact that he ‘only’ went 1-4 last night with a GIDP, even though that is the EXACT same line as the sacred Justin Morneau.
A serious question - what is it about Jason Kubel that bothers you so much? Why do you refuse to look at all of the information that proves he is more than just an ‘average player’, and continue to troll the boards, looking for any chance to claim otherwise?
age 22 perspective:
jj and kirby in the minors.
hunter; 6 gms, 0 hr, 2 rbi, .238 ave.
cuddy; 8 gm, 0 hr, 1 rbi, .222 ave.
gomez; 116 gms, 5 hr, 35 rbi, .250 ave.
young; 116 gms, 7 hr, 53 rbi, .288 ave.
who gets booed?
Ah, you’re just bitter, right Jeff? TK jipped you out of a lot of playing time…
I may have been an awful leadoff man, but I’ll be damned if anyone can mutter their way through a radio broadcast like I can.
Gardy isn’t half the manager TK was.
Sane, as a customer of the Twins, I have no obligation to help them win. I don’t understand this line of argument at all. The only obligations in this arrangement are for me to pay for my tickets, and for them to entertain me. That’s it. I have no obligation to help them win by either cheering or booing.
My apologies, Pete…I’m not going to address your concerns.
maybe all of us have that ONE player that we don’t agree with Twin Rube Nation on and we take the contrarian opinion.. some folks on these blogs still think LNP should be a starter..
“My apologies, Pete…I’m not going to address your concerns.”
You are just going to continue to troll the boards. Got ya.
FIRE GARDY & VAVRA!!! says:
August 19th, 2008 at 9:27 am
maybe all of us have that ONE player that we don’t agree with Twin Rube Nation on and we take the contrarian opinion.. some folks on these blogs still think LNP should be a starter..
He should be a starter… About every 5 games, to give someone a break.
goobledygookguy: what does age have to do with anything? he’s in the majors, he’s getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars (paid for by tickets and tax subsidies). What does his age have to do with this at all in terms of how he is performing in a specific game?
I said this last week, I think.
Just because you disagree with someone on one thing (or in this case boo them for one particular performance) does not mean you disagree with them on everything, that you hate them, that you don’t think they should have their job. It means you disagreed with them in this one particular instance (or booed them in this instance, just like you cheered them in another instance). It is not all of one or the other - life is filled with the middle zone (unless you are a Yankee fan talking about Jeter).
Good news on Casilla so when he comes back will LNP go back to his more suited role as a bench player or will Everett or Buscher be benched?
Gladden’s HR call (monotone):
He hits it to left field….that’s a homerun….now it’s 6 to 5….the next batter is….
My point on the booing was stated perfectly by someone else. Young gets booed at in situations where others don’t. So he K’s in the 9th on a pitch outside the strikezone, has that never happened to any other Twin. Booing Young’s fielding is getting old too. Young should be in RF and should have been in RF at the beginning of the season. In the dome you want your better fielder in LF and your better arm in RF.
Span is a better fielder and Young has a much better arm. Why don’t they flip those two guys?
mike,
I agree.
No fan has any obligations.
I want the team to win.
If crowd energy, love or excitement contributes to it, then I am in favor of it.
You can do as you please.
And I can want what I want.
No obligations involved.
“Gardy isn’t half the manager TK was.”
If Gardy keeps eating like he does, he might be twice the manager TK was.
Hey Gladden maybe you can punch LNP out like you did Steve Lombardozzi that would solve alot of problems!! roster space and upgrading the lineup!
mike’s exactly right…
my thing is, why is this even news? why does there have to be some jaw-dropping reaction when a player gets booed? Big deal, it happens…start playing like a professional and it won’t happen anymore.
And no one’s above it, either. Look, I made the argument that there is no comparison between Young and Morneau because, obviously, there isn’t, in terms of what the two have accomplished so far…having said that, if Morneau starts acting unprofessionally–takes bonehead at-bats, makes bonehead plays in the field, I’ll boo him as well.
Gladden is a good color man, bringing good insight, but his play by play is truly awful.
“Bush was actually a better player than Kubel.”
While Bush was a fine hitter, and perhaps slightly under rated, to say that he was a better player than Kubel is probably wrong. He doesn’t hit for the same amount of power as Kubel, and while he did get on base more, that wasn’t until later in his career. Through his age 26 season, Bush was a much worse hitter than Kubel has been. Also, while Bush could play first base, he was pretty much a corner outfielder, and I don’t remember his defense being anything special. Their career fielding percentages are nearly identical and both have below average range factors for their positions. Add in Kubel’s arm strength, and I wouldn’t give an advantage to Bush in that area at all.
Now, if Kubel doesn’t improve any more, and stays at this level, I might agree with you. But he is going to be in his ‘prime’ years, and I expect him to hit better, which would make him the better player.
Dan Gladden fears LNP. Lombardozzi never got after it, or battled his tail off.
Jason,
I read your post.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
mike wants to win, you missed the key word perspective!
BC
Everett will be DFA’d
Pete D,
You might be right. Kubel should be in his prime the next three years. I hope his bat gets big. He has handled LHP pretty good lately. They might as well let him play everyday. They should have done that earlier with Monroe hitting .138 against LHP.
I agree with Mike Wants Wins. Booing just shows your ignorance.
Ah, everyone’s ripping on my man Gladden, but the truth is, he is the best Twins broadcaster, bar none.
Yes, I know, he doesn’t have the most exciting play-by-play call on Earth–but guess what, neither did the late Herb Carneal. Carneal’s soft voice and approach worked just fine….
What Gladden does have is a no-bull approach to calling the game…which is why we all should be glad (no pun intended) to have him describe the action for us when we’re not there to see it for ourselves.
“I agree with Mike Wants Wins. Booing just shows your ignorance.”
So does cheering…I mean everyone knows when a play is good for the team…why do we need to cheer to legitimize it?
All kidding aside, there’s nothing shameful about booing…a lot of athletes will be quick to point out that they deserve to be booed and that they would booing themselves if they were in the stands.
What’s shameful is throwing hats and other debris onto the field…or swearing in front of small children…there’s no place for that.
Jason
carneal was absolutely fantastic at play by play. i don’t know how old you are, but perhaps you only heard him in the later years? i don’t mean to rip gladden, but he’s out of his element doing play by play.
Everett has hit really well this month. He’s been doing a nice job. I don’t think he’s going anywhere, except maybe to the DL. The story right now is, he won’t be going on the DL. Gardy likes him, but Skipper likes his little buddy better.
booing is fine BUT some MN Twin fans boo at the wrong times..
1) why boo Jeter? a great player he has never said a bad word towards MN
2) why boo AJ this man brought Twins one of the biggest heists in MLB history!!
I prefer Gene Larkin behind the mic. Way better than Gladden. He was a MUCH better hitter too. Does Gladden still wear the semi bald-headed mullet?
FIRE GARDY & VAVRA!!!
boo jeter because he is the captain, and represents the Evil Empire
Boo A.J. just for the simple fact that he’s a dirty, arrogant son of a bitch.
Gladden still has the mullet, though it’s not as glorious. When was Larkin on? He’s pretty good?
The thing about cheering, it’s REALLY hard to shut up and just watch when somebody makes a highlight reel play or hit ! ! !
I’m old enough to have heard Carneal from 1988-2006…so yeah, he probably was less enthusiastic with his approach in his later years, but at that same time, he was a joy to listen to. I also remember his call of Harmon Killebrew’s 500th homerun and I remember that being a fairly calm (not yelling and shouting) call as well.
that seems to be a lost art…I love the classic play-by-play guys who are still working, like Vin Scully and Harry Kalas…
As for Gladden, again, I get it, he doesn’t have the classic play-by-play voice or style…but I like his style…in fact, I like his style a lot more than another Twins broadcaster who jumps out of his chair for a routine flyball…
got some breaking news the king is dead!! the evil empire resides in Boston now Yanks might finish 3rd in their division
I like Tim Laudner, when he is on FSN. He is a major improvement on Coomer. I cannot stand Coomer. Smalley is OK though, i think. Need to do something about that rat’s nest he calls hair, though. You’d think he’d want to look good for Marney.
FIRE
It will be born again this offseason.
Young had a brutal night. If he catches Cust’s double, the Twins win 2-1. That catch would have rated about a 7 on a 10-point difficulty scale. In past years Dan Gladden, Jacque Jones, or Shannon Stewart would have made that catch in their hip pocket.
This guy still looks lost in left field. Has anybody else noticed that when he plays catch between innings he’s the only one of the three outfielders who routinely drops/misses catches? Next time you’re at a game, watch for it. I don’t know whetgher to chalk it up to lack of desire or skill.
“that seems to be a lost art…I love the classic play-by-play guys who are still working, like Vin Scully and Harry Kalas…”
For some reason, I have never liked Vin Scully. He just seems to continually talk - telling story after story. Perhaps if I grew up a Dodger fan, I might like it more. But as it is, I can’t listen to him now.
Larkin has made a few appearances when Gladden was off riding the Harley.
Larkin is intelligent and articulate, but not a big talker. Very sharp. Not bombastic. Very modest. He worked well with Gordon.
If I were Everett I would say my hand is fine. If he goes on the DL he might not ever make it back on the team with Tolbert and Casilla almost ready to go.
I would rate Gladden as the worst radio announcer the Twins have ever had. He is so opinionated also. The best thing in his favor is his sense of humor. He is very funny at times.
He would get off the DL right when rosters expand, so i don’t think that concerns him.
So when do they expand the rosters is it Sept 1st? Also when do they have to set there playoff roster?
Right Craig, Gladden’s OK for a few innings, but he turns people off a little with some of his style. Wives and kids like the others better too, and they are an important part of the fan base as well..
1) Others do not get booed in the same situation as Young? I didn’t see anyone else out there last night taking golf practice at the plate (that last plate appearance he just looked awful) or loafing out to try to catch a fly. Don’t get me wrong, I still think getting Young was the right move and will be proven a winning FO move over time, but he stunk last night.
2) When Casilla comes back, he will play and LNP will play, regularly as starters. Third will be Gardy’s daily platoon. Discussing Casilla’s return and who would sit, Gardy was quoted the other day as saying his lil buddy would be out there ’cause “he’s a gold glove” player. What a nincampoop. Harris probably would have hit doubles in his key at bats last night had Gardy not totally killed the roll Harris was one before he was benched in favor of the mighty LNP 2 weeks ago.
3) Dear FO: please get Korecky up here, now!
4) Gladden = good. He is the ONLY local Twins’ announcer we have who is not a complete and total homer. Carneal was also not a total homer and granted, he was better at play-by-play than Danny, but we don’t have Herb now and Gladden is the best we do have.
Why boo Jeter?
Maybe because he is the most overrated baseball player over the last decade. Plus he plays for the other team. I fully endorse booing every one of the other teams players throughout the whole game.
Right Kay, no Herb anymore. How can you not get a chill thinking of those words of his, “to Gaetti, there’s the throw to Hrbek … and the Twins are world champions! The Twins are world champions!”
I always thought “We’ll see ya tomorrow night” sounded like Jack Buck was pissed that the Twins won.
Are there any negatives to moving Young back to RF and Span to LF? Again, I think this seems way to logical, Young would have much less field to cover and his arm strength is better off in RF than LF anyway.
BC
I believe the answer to both your questions is Sept. 1
Mudcat
I thought Buck just sounded excited.
Jama says, “I fully endorse booing every one of the other teams players throughout the whole game.”
I am Mudcat Grant, and I approve of this message.
how much crap did span get for missing the ball in the gap this weekend? it didn’t tip off the end of his glove he just plain missed it. double standard again.
they won’t dfa everett this close to sept 1 they will want him for the final month. maybe a dl stint until after the 1st. whoever comes up goes back down when casilla is ready.
Thanks ygtbkm I wonder if they will just wait untill then to call up Casilla so they don’t have to waive Everett. I think Everett can definetly help down the streatch.
The other posters are right. if they have to, they’ll put everett on the DL, whether he needs it or not, then call up casilla.
al reyes is a free agent, rays released him. he would be better than bass wouldn’t he?
Based on this years performances by both? No, he would not.
Mudcat,
I have one of your signed balls. 
gooble,
Are we talking about the ball where it was amazing that Span even got close to it? That would have been one incredible catch. I even heard someone complain about Span not catching the ball on the baggie. That ball was two feet higher than his best vertical leap, and an out stretched glove.
This is a tough crowd. A player goes way beyond what would be routine, and he’s criticized. Span has several steps on Young in the field, and unlike Young he goes all out. You seem to be the one with the double standard, giving Young a free pass while criticising Span.
Boo fire,just because he’s fire!
Shawn
lol at your comment.
thanks man
“Are there any negatives to moving Young back to RF and Span to LF?”
None. It should have been done a long time ago. All positives. It’s like Gomez leading off and Span batting 9th. Some things only Gardy knows the reasons to. Maybe he thinks Cuddy will get upset.
Laughing?
Sounded painful to me.
i wasn’t giving him a free pass it appeared to me he gave everything he had to get to the ball, i guess you felt he was loofing. and i didn’t criticize span just pointing out the same play can appear good or bad depending on who is making it and who is watching. i have no complaint with span very very nice surprise. you should be proud he was your buddy last winter when it wasn’t popular.
After watching for most of the season the Delmon Young and Carlos Gomez futility in attempting to hit breaking balls, I wonder why any pitcher EVER throws them a strike. Strikes are not needed to get these two guys out. They could learn a lot by watching how Denard Span approaches his at-bats.
Colin Cowherd knows less about baseball than the worst blog poster. UGH, its tough to listen to him talk about how bad Santana is.
Who the hell is Colin Cowherd?
he’s on espn radio, keeps his head where the sun doesn’t shine.
My guess is that Gardy overvalues the way span plays the baggie.
I must chime in on the play-by-play commentary. The Twins fans have been blessed for years with professional work by Herb Carneal. John was fine as a sidekick, but he makes so many mistakes, especially in announcing the count. He also speaks in future tense, which is pretty common amongst announcers, but unprofessional for someone who makes his living describing action. As for Gladden, he does well as a color commentator, but he cannot describe action as it is occurring (”There’s a popup to right. Cuddyer is back and makes the catch against the fence!” A pop fly?) Pleasant personality aside, Gladden still needs to be able to describe what’s going on, and he cannot do that.
gooble,
I think Young was trying, but I don’t think he always tries his hardest. That’s my impression. I don’t think he plays as hard in the field as Gomez or Span. He is a little over-matched by LF in the dome.
I listen to Colin Cowherd, also. “The Herd”. He says Fantasy Leagues are full of guys who eat boogers. He’s good for a laugh once in a while.
If he is on ESPN radio, i have no doubt the guy is a d-bag. they rarely have their own opinions, and when they do, it is usually something so outrageous that no one else would suggest it, for fear of being laughed at as an idiot.
Bob
What do you mean, future tense?
gooble,
Is it gooble or gobble? I thought it used to be gobble. Maybe it has always been gooble, and I just called you gobble.
I havent noticed. Does Gordon still talk about RBI in the plural sense as RBI?
I know hes technically correct, but it drives me nuts. I like to hear about 50 RBIs, not 50 RBI
I’m with Shawn i can’t stand Cowherd.
Octopi, Octopuses
new craig that’s diiferent than “and unlike Young he goes all out.” sounded like you felt he was loofing on the play. i think some of that is he doesn’t look real smooth like gomez and span, yet he looks smoother than cuddy or kubal. think he is second on the team in sb. he’s a big guy that has decent speed just never looks like he’s moving real fast.
“Wives and kids like the others better too, and they are an important part of the fan base as well..”
Yeah, because the wives and kids don’t get anything from Dick and Bert…their entire telecast is devoted to the likes of “wives and kids”.
Gladden brings something different; in short, he brings the real game to serious baseball fans…not people who tune in to see a circus act and bad comedy.
thanks craig, computer blew up and i entered it wrong on the new one.
I thought it was “gobble” also. Should we just call you “Gook”.
Wouldn’t it technically be called
“R’sBI”. That’s what my English teacher told me.
I am kind of stuck with Cowherd if i want to listen to sports. Its either him or the chuckleheads on Fox. I miss kfan. I love XM175 the baseball channel and i listen on my gym trips at lunch.
Cuddyer will be back soon and he has a better arm than Young. Young actually played that ball better than he did early in the season. When he started playing here, he wouldn’t cross the warning track to catch a ball. He will get better in the field. It’s his approach at the plate that bothers me. It’s OK to swing at a first pitch strike, but not at a first pitch ball. Young has gotten lazy in his approach and needs to sit for a couple games. Of course, he will anyhow with that ankle.
Young won’t learn to take pitches unless he is truly concerned with becoming great. He doesn’t take coaching well or doesn’t admit that he does. Unless he eventually feels a burning desire to be one of the best, he probably will always swing at alot of bad pitches.
Jason, buddy, you gotta remember, some kids live for following and listening to those games. Better than sitting in front of a video game. Go to a nursing home during a day game, radios tuned in all over the place.
Stream Kfan, if you can stand Paul allen.
Young is still learning but he’s shown enough ability to be an everyday player. Gomez just looks completely outmatched and should be in AAA. I’m still amazed we couldn’t score one actual legitimate major league ready player in the Santana deal.
I’m stuck to Shawn but he’s the only one i really can’t stand i would jump on XM in a minute if i could get the signal at work.
He’ll feel that desire, once he gets close to free agency.
KFAN is always accessible online…but they rarely talk Twins in-depth…usually just mention the box score and air a couple of sound bites and do obligatory interviews that lack substance…exception to this rule would be Doogie and Hartman, who break it down fairly well.
As long as we’re talking sports broadcasting, Jason Whitlock is filling in for Jim Rome yesterday and today and he’s phenomenal…great college football talk yesterday.
Lets face it the TWINS WERE FLAT last night bottom line,Young looked pathetic it seems like he is wearing slippers on ice. Why can’t he DH sometimes? There is no question Young looked brutal last night. That being said this is 1 game you people need to relax, move on. We have a bunch of kids on this team and were contending.That was a team loss. Errors will kill you (Everett and Buscher talk) when you don’t score runs.Hey Breslow the chick looked like a man last night we need that all the time.I hate the Chi Sox, GO TWINS
Isn’t the play where he was alledgedly dogging it, the play where Young hurt his foot?
I have seen some plays this season where Young appears to be nonchalant about his fielding.
Young would be better in RF. I agree he has more range than Cuddyer or Kubel.
I would never let Delmon DH. That would reward his sometimes lazy play in the outfield.
Why did LNP get to tour the new ballpark? He will never play a game in that stadium.
“Isn’t the play where he was alledgedly dogging it, the play where Young hurt his foot?”
Maybe so, but the ball still damn near hit him in the center of his glove and he didn’t come up with it…
Look, I agree that there’s no need to get worked up over one game…obviously we’re looking for a bounce back tonight and it’s nice to know that games like last night have been the exception and not the rule this season (remember how many games we were stuck on 2 runs in 2007????). That being said, it’s equally wrong to overract and go crazy over a little booing…it’s not going to kill anyone.
I used to stream KFAN but they took streaming away. 
Yes he will, but hopefully, if it’s in a Twins uniform, it is understood that he is a very good utility man, and a very poor everyday player.
Shawn
I’m streaming KFAN right now. Or are you talking about your place of employment?
Rome i listen to, but there is a 2 hour gap of crap between 10-12 ET.
my place of employment. I listen to Dan sometimes at home.
streaming slows down the server too much apparently.
I don’t see the Skipper being without his little buddy, in the new stadium. Having Punto on the team gives Gardy peace of mind. Managers love a veteran guy who has the versatility and experience to plug many holes. Plus, he is very affordable.
i hope punto gets the first hit at the new stadium.
3-4 million for next year isn’t that affordable when there are many cheaper options. Then in 2010 he will be all that he is(isn’t) now plus a step slower.
“Isn’t the play where he was alledgedly dogging it, the play where Young hurt his foot”
The play he dogged it was on Cust’s Double in the 4th. He hurt his foot on Cust’s single in the 6th. It’s the same play that Young had an error on.
No one would be stupid enough to pay LNP 4 mil a year, would they?
Punto is one of the Twins most popular players. Fans love him. He will return next year by popular demand. Gardy is his biggest fan.
if Gardy was the GM, LNP would be back for sure.
I think a two year deal at 2.5 mil a year could bring back Punto. He won’t have many AB this year. I doubt if anyone will throw a much bigger contract his way.
I was surfing the web just now when I came across 2 of my favorite breakfast haunts both quite excellent. Roscoes House of Chicken and Waffles and Denny’s. Horrible game last night and to a team that I don’t even recognize anymore. What do you think the A’s would want for Eric Chavez?
i hope brian bass gets the first win at Best Buy Stadium
I think tonight’s game is absolutely critical…
We have two home games left before this long road trip…the White Sox do not appear like they are slowing down one bit…the Twins have been between 2.5 games behind and 1 game ahead virtually since the All-Star break…there have been no major swings…
If we lose tonight and the Whities win, it has a chance of snowballing…
I know one game isn’t going to decide it with 5.5 weeks left in the season, but I don’t think the Twins can get away with dropping this one tonight, for some reason. We got 8 solid innings from Blackburn last night (meaning the bully is well-rested and ready to go); The lineup is pretty much as intact as it’s going to be (except for when Casilla returns), so I really think it’s important that we act like a first place team and take care of business at home against a weaker opponent this evening…
i think the a’s would be happy to be rid of him
“You’ve got to be kidding me! says:
August 19th, 2008 at 11:37 am
i hope brian bass gets the first win at Best Buy Stadium”
Let me correct you. i hope brian bass gets the first win at Penny Pincher Park
Tolbert 2B, Casilla SS. DP combo in 2009?
Punto the reserve?
Looks good to me.
“Loafing”… “Lazy”… no, there’s obviously absolutely no latent racism involved in some folks’ appraisal of Delmon Young’s play. None at all. *cough*
Have you seen him running down the line to first, desperately trying (and usually failing) to beat out a DP groundball? He has a positively AWKWARD physicality. He is NOT Mr. Smooth. Moreover, he’s sometimes noticably tentative when playing the ball (which is an experience/confidence thing, like so much else about his play outside of his batspeed) which might be minconstrued as “not trying” by those predisposed to reach such a conclusion, but if he were really taking it easy out there do you think Rone Gardenhire, who wets himself over LNP’s gritnhustle on a regular basis, wouldn’t bench him/call him out?
I remember having an epiphany about Randy Bush as a kid: I went from hating him to loving him overnight. I believe it was the late summer of 1987…
Why is there no good diners in the Twin cities
I’m not always sure DY has, as Reusse says “what it takes below the left n!pple” to play the game. I keep remembering something Delmon said on that special FSN ran on him earlier in the season. When interviewed, most players talk about how they always dreamed of playing MLB, but not Delmon. He said his dad told him, (something to the effect) would you rather go to a job every day or would you like to work a few hours a day playing baseball. So he worked hard to become a professional baseball player.
They should sell the naming rights twice, to get more money. Imagine going to 3M Field at Malt-O-Meal Park.
Thats it! I am growing a moustache like Cory Snyders
Can Breslow be the savior of the bullpen?
Breslow has a WS ring.
Toby
I am the one who posted about “delmon’s SOMETIMES lazy play in the FIELD”. And from that, you decide i am a racist? You are an idiot, and have no credibility.
Al Reyes is now a free agent…now there’s a player Billy Smith will make a pass at, even though he doesn’t have much left in my opinion
Yeah, what is this race thing? And really, beyond that, why was Delmon boooed? He had an off day, he has been a big contributor to our success lately….come on fans, get behind your team instead of being at their throats…
I am absolutely baffled that people are willing to toss out race at every opportunity whenever it could remotely enter an equation. That line of thinking gets our society nowhere.
Does racism still exist in our society? Sadly, absolutely.
But to just throw it out there in a vacuum…that’s blatantly irresponsible, immature, and does this society no good at all whatsoever as far as uniting us goes. To me, that’s as gutless and shameful as it gets.
I’m no sociologist or anything, but I would venture to guess that 99 percent of us are not racist people. Let’s quit pretending otherwise, shall we?
“No one would be stupid enough to pay LNP 4 mil a year, would they?”
No one would be stupid enough to pay Carlos Silva 10 mil a year, would they?
““No one would be stupid enough to pay LNP 4 mil a year, would they?”
Absolutely not. His next contract will be for something near the veteran’s minimum.
There is an old saying out there. To not be a racist you must hate everyone equally
BC
Carlos makes 12 mil. But it is hard to compare what the seattle front office does, to what rational peopl would do.
LNP is worth around 1.5 a year 2.0 max
LOL jimmy….well for the record, I’ve booed Punto plenty, despite the glares I get from my section when I do it…
WHat has LNP’s average been over the past 3 weeks? He has picked it up well has he not?
jummy bee FOGO DE CHAO is awesome!! Brazilian BQ succulent meat cooked on a skewer over a open fire!! Google the name and check out their website.. you will fall in love!!!(YUM!)
FOGO DE CHAO costs as much as LNP is making this year, right?
The reason Delmon gets booed is that Ruesse and Souhan hate him and rag on him every chance they get. Do you read Ruesse’s after Delmon hit the 3 run HR…he still went after him. Anybody who thinks that Delmon is a huge issue for this team is an idiot. Sure he need to improve but he’s not costing games like our pitching is. Remember who was in LF last year?
So now Greg Maddux is a Dodger why wouldn’t the Twins make a claim for him instead of Washburn?
LNPs agent is going to want a raise off of the 2.4 million. He will shop around for it, preferring a 2-3 year deal for the boy. If no one bites, he will probably come back at around 1.5 mill if the club has decided it could use him.
Maddux would only play on the west coast
yep I think $32 for lunch $48 for dinner though it is “eat until they throw you out!” it’s a once a year stop for me but comparing it to other Twin Cities restaurants of higher caliber it is right in line.
We need a young new sports writer in this town…Mike Max ain’t the guy either
I’ll have to go at lunch, then take a nap after at work
BC Maddux is a fossil and I am not sure if he would leave the SW. I was actually not happy that the Dodgers went after him. FIRE FOGO DE CHAO looks really good I will have to give it a go one evening.
He’s a fossil but can still get the job done and if you want a great influence on young pitchers i can’t think of anyone better.
Brazilian is alot like Portugese no?
I need to head to Jersey and get Portugese one of these days. Awesome meat!
That’s an interesting theory, slumpyb…but I will give Twins fans (especially those passionate enough to show up on a Monday night in mid-August against a no-name opponent) a little more credit.
I don’t think it’s all Reusse and Souhan, although clearly neither of them are impressed, yet.
I agree that Young has been steady in LF for us this year…the kind of stability we haven’t seen since Shannon Stewart left town. That’s a good thing.
A caller on KFAN nailed this thing perfectly last Thurs. when all the D Young praise was coming out of the woodwork–we didn’t trade Matt Garza away for a “work in progress”; we traded him for a guy who was supposed to step in, hold down a spot, and produce…a bona fide major league outfielder who could be counted on everyday to be a professional, on and off the field.
So I guess from that standpoint, the fan base has been rightfully luke warm on Young this season and when he makes plays that cause you to shake your head and follows them up with weak strikeouts, then yes, you’re going to get booed.
Of course, you could make the same arguments about Punto (and I would agree 100 percent that Punto has been given an irrational pass by this fan base), but the difference is for whatever reason people view Punto as an underdog–as a guy you’re not expecting much from…I would personally disagree with this mindset based on his salary and what we expected he would be (our everyday 3B) based on that salary.
All of that aside, I do understand the frustrations with Young…but I also see the potential and I sincerely hope he pans out as our LF for years to come.
When does Olympic baseball end? I like to see Duensing get a shot
“When does Olympic baseball end? I like to see Duensing get a shot”
Not sure but i haven’t seen any of it yet. I heard on espn last night that this was the last year for Olympic baseball does anyone know why?
but the booing suggested nothing about race…whoever suggested that is moronic
Has anyone ever been to Khaans Korean BBq or as I like to call it “The Diarrhea Shack”. Someone gave me a gift certificate and boy did I get sick, sick, sick.
Ping pong, sorry, “Table Tennis” is somehow going to continue being in the olympics, but baseball is not??? It makes no sense…
My apologies, Pete…I’m not going to address your concerns.
Poor Jason. Still reeling from being called out as the Kubeltroller he is.
Still trying to come up with an excuse for why you moved the goalposts from “getting it going” over the weekend to suddenly “keeping it going” against Oakland.
I figured you’d be the only person happy to see Kubel ground into the DP. How’s your boy Justin doing in the month of August BTW?
Ping pong, sorry, “Table Tennis” is somehow going to continue being in the olympics, but baseball is not??? It makes no sense…
They’re apparenlty removing softball because of the US dominance. And they’re taking baseball away becaues the US isn’t sending “stars”..?
That’s the last I heard on it. Which is really just stupid. I think China’s won 50-75% of the medals handed out in Olympic tabel tennis and they’re not even looking at taking that away.
There’s also EPSN thinking tennis shouldn’t be in the Olympics.
Yes…keep taking the real sports out of the Olympics.
I love how we always find a way to complain about this team, but the fact is that this is the best Twins lineup that I have seen in years…more potential than 2000
“So now Greg Maddux is a Dodger why wouldn’t the Twins make a claim for him instead of Washburn?”
Maybe they did. We’ll never know. The Dodgers got to pick before the Twins because he’s in the NL.
The Situationer they have fricken badmitton in the olympics who the hell plays that sport let alone wants to watch someone play.
WOmen’s field hockey is in the olympics, so is BMX racing, handball???, and taekwondo….seriously??? And baseball is removed before these “sports”???
I would like golf to be in the Olympics and Rugby also
Good point saam i forgot about that.
BC - I saw that!!! Ridiculous…I remember playing that in high school phy ed class….that is no sport my friend…it is a backyard game…maybe lawn darts, or bag toss should be an olympic sport as well
Corn hole in London in 2012
I can’t believe Carl Everett is still in the majors. How does this man still have a paying job?
Baseball ends on the 23…
I would work my ass off to play corn hole in the olympics, now that is something I would support!
Good comments by slumpyb! And there is a difference between looking slow and being slow. I have made a point when at the dome to watch Young go after balls. He is a very fast kid!! So, Fast, great Arm, batting in the 280-295 range. Does he look like he is over matched sometimes? Sure because Lets all say it together now Young is YOUNG!!!!!. People boo Young because he is not a press darling. I was at the Yankee games and every time Gomez was mentioned in any way the crowed went nuts. Please explain that to me in terms of performance as a player? When to Boo? When a player is not trying. Young is working hard and improving. Thats what you want from a young kid. People that Boo because a player did not do great never played the game at a competitive level. I want all my players to be GREAT everyday or else!!! Whaaaaaaaa.
Get a life!!!!!
“Corn hole in London in 2012″
jimmy i’m in i can play that game at a high level even when i’m drunk.
What would the symbol look like for corn hole?
K-Bach-
I share your frustrations…but you have to admit, delmon just looks clumsy out there sometimes…maybe it’s his long legs or something, but he kind of looks uncoordinated when playing in the field
the symbol would be a fat guy with a beer can in one hand and a bag in the other…then a dude next to him talking crap right to his face
“Poor Jason. Still reeling from being called out as the Kubeltroller he is.”
I think I’m done addressing yours, as well, T. In case you haven’t noticed, I do not get personal on these pages…(with the exception of some our ‘celebrities’, like the authors of the Twins blogs, who are public figures)
When Young, Gomez and Cuddyer were manning the outfield early this season, and doing fairly well, I made the claim that Denard Span was the better than all three. Wow, did I get mocked.
Thanks Denard. You have vindicated me.
“but he kind of looks uncoordinated when playing in the field”
and cuddy, kubal and from the recent past lew ford, rondell white and …… didn’t?
Gomez reminds me of one of those little monkeys you see with organ grinders.
I’m not comparing Delmon, I’m just pointed out the fact that sometimes you watch him chasing down a ball in the field and you cringe because of his style
Situationer
I agree. That is why I started watching him closely. He just does not look that athletic. But his IS!! Thats the point. Same with him on the base paths. His is very quick but looks like he has a stick up his &^8%$#. I think that translates for some into thinking he does not care or is not trying. I hope we are not at the point where we would rather have players that are “fun” to watch (GO-GO) then a player doing a very good job!.
Finally, as for his last at bat. Any right-hander is going to look like a fool against that “NASTY” stuff.
K-Bach - well said, I totally agree
I think Delmon will succeed
“Finally, as for his last at bat. Any right-hander is going to look like a fool against that “NASTY” stuff.”
I agree with that those pitches would’ve been hard for anyone to lay off.
Luke Hughes will probably end up in the OF. Jason Pridie has improved. Maybe next season, Pridie and Hughes will flank Span in center. I doubt if it would make any difference in the W-L columns versus what is out there now.
lets face it, olympic baseball is a joke
no need to tarnish the sport in that way
as frustrating as young can be i’d rather have him go down swinging instead of with the bat on his shoulder bitching at the ump like an un-named utility/everyday player/managers little buddy.
the Olympics should be a showcase for sports that get very little visibility otherwise.
Swimming, gymnastics, cycling, etc.
Olympic soccer is not a big deal either for soccer playign countries
you could argue basketball gets enough showcase in the NBA, but too many countries play basketball
tennis has its own tournaments, baseball has MLB, softball has,,, well who cares what softball has
There are plenty of sports left in the olympics where the US cleans up (i.e. swimming for every distance)
Maybe it’s time Gardy turn Go-go loose and tell him either to bunt or swing for the fences…he has 5 HR on the year but his last one was on June 6?????
Where did go-go go? Did someone mess with his swing or something?
Young has not been as awful as many seem to think, but I’ll bet BS and Gardy expected a lot better player than the one they received.
pridie and hughes are proven ml players i guess, craig are you rebuilding for 2012 again? how about hicks and morales?
I don’t really boo anything outside of Vikings offensive or defensive efforts or bad calls but I can see how some may choose to boo Young’s effort. To be honest he looks like he is half-a**ing it a lot of the time both in the field and at bat. I think his past criticisms along with his gaffs in the field lead people to believe that maybe the effort isn’t always there.
Jason,
I think they are trying to help him cut down on the whiffs. 113 whiffs is a high price to pay for 5 HR.
gobble- you forgot revere….bring him up as well then and Guerra too
gobble,
Hughes is about 24 and Pridie 25. They aren’t kids.
Hughes is 24, Pridie turns 25 in October.
“I think they are trying to help him cut down on the whiffs. 113 whiffs is a high price to pay for 5 HR.”
Except they don’t seem to be succeeding there, either.
I think it is all about pitch recognition for Gomez, or the lack thereof.
The Twins need a new bullpen.
Gomez and Dy should work together at hitting and see if they can get better playing off of one another.
Did anyone here see the beanball fest that was the China-USA baseball game? Jim Lefevre (sp?) should be ashamed of himself. The U.S. was beaned 6 times, including Matt LaPorta going to the hospital after being hit in the melon. I’m sure that pleased Cleveland to no end.
Tim
The twins are getting a new bullpen in 2010
The Twins will have a new bullpen in 2010 it’s just a matter of who they put in it.
One of the U.S. players destroyed the chinese catcher on a play at the plate, though. A small measure of revenge.
Synchronized swimming is still an Olympic “sport.”
You’ve got to be kidding me!
- You got a link to that story?
The strangest olympic “sport” has to be the equestrian events. If anything, they should give the medals to the horses. There is a time and place for horse dancing, and the olympics aint it.
no, i saw it on Sportcenter during my lunchbreak, sorry.
Modern pentathlon???
BC of ND,
Good one.
“I’m with you T, Morneau was the opposite of clutch last night. I hope booing Young isn’t a race thing but I have my doubts. (and yes I know there are other players of color that play for the Twins and don’t get booed) For some reason Twins fans have never really accepted Young. I thought after his HR of Rivera that things might change but the “average” fan just doesn’t seem to care for Young. Never mind that he is hitting almost .290 and is fourth on the team in RBI’s. I understand that he hasn’t had as much power as people expected but he is not far behind his pace of HR’s from last year. His OPS is actually higher this year than it was last year.
I just wish the fans would get off Young’s back for a couple of weeks and let him play.”
I think you might be right, jama. As sad as it is, it does seem to be a race thing. Even if it’s not, the dislike of him is hard to explain. He’s been a lot more productive than the other 22 year old in our lineup who happens to be a fan favorite. It’s not fair to DY and it can’t help his development.
right craig and neither has a major league at bat, young is 22 and finishing up his 2nd yr hitting around .290. no question he should be hitting .320 with 25 hr and 90 rbi like all the other 22 yr olds in the ml, therefore he’s a bum and should be sent down or traded.
braun and loungoria’s are few and far between.
I, personally, don’t think that it was a race thing it all…if it was, I am ashamed to be a Twins fan right now
Olympics just arent that much fun anymore like the Olympics of my youth whne you had the big red machine to cheer against
now, I almost find myself cheering for other countries (small ones) rather than the USA
China could be a formidable foe, but somehow oriental looking people just dont inspire the fear that the big russians did
What events compose the modern pentathalon?
D Young is hitting .288 on the season–the exact same as he did last season with the Rays…
More than likely, he’s going to come up short of his 2007 numbers in HR, RBI, and doubles, but he’ll also come up short in at-bats…as I said, he’s been steady, but not overly impressive.
The intangibles are the outfield play–what we saw in April was a very strong arm; what we’ve seen since is below average outfield play. But as I’ve argued over and over, defense is overrated in baseball, so I’m not as bothered by that as others.
I think the fan base has been pretty good to Delmon. Up until last week, he hasn’t really came through in the clutch a tremendous amount (this is in stark contrast to Mauer, Morneau, and Kubel, all of whom have had multiple game-winning hits for this squad). So as soon as D Young starts doing that a few times, the fans will warm up, trust me.
Meanwhile, little league plays deserve booing no matter who does it. Jama and Patrick, I once again beg you not to insult the fan base by claiming it’s about race.
Thank You Carlos Gomez for showing me how Sam Cassell would look with big hair
Al Reyes from the Rays just become a free agent. He’s 38 y/o and not great, but he has experience closing out games and could be a better option that either Boof or Bass for the final month(s).
Modern pentathalon
épée fencing
pistol shooting
200 metre freestyle swimming
show jumping on horseback
3 km cross country running
Kevin
I find that its alot of fun to root against the chinese. The may not be as intimidating as the russians, but they are dirty communist cheaters. It’s always fun to cheer against manufactured athletes that are handpicked at infancy, just as its fun to cheer for the americans, that, for the most part, started competing in their sports because they enjoyed it, and found that with extra effort and training, they could be world class.
Delmon was swinging on a bad ankle in his final at-bat.
Try it sometime.
jimmy
that is a truly bizaare combination.
The argument “I’d like to see you do it” is very very weak, sid.
Sam Cassell looks much more alien-like than Gomez though…
I agree with Jason i believe the majority of the fans and bloggers on this site aren’t raceist. If you don’t think so you should see how they rip the likes of Kubel,Punto,Mauer,etc etc about the only guy who’s never been ripped is Justin.
lets give Delmon a break…if this 0 for 4 thing becomes a trend, then we can all do the usual and overanalyze everything
Water polo is really stupid, too. It looks like it might be fun to do, but it is unwatchable.
i brought up the al reyes thing earlier and got shot down because bass was supposedly better. so i looked it up.
reyes; 4.27 era, 1.36 whip
bass, 5.02 era, 1.57 whip
seems like he is worth a try, besides bass never pitches anymore. but the bullpen doesn’t get much work so a few guys sitting and not pitching shouldn’t be a big deal.
BC with his (JM) receeding hairline I have been meaning to build him a rug so he doesn’t look like Jay Buhner
sam cassell looks like the result of E.T. banging Sloth from the Goonies.
Maybe LaPanta could get a good deal on a rug.
Kevin Neeland of Saturday Night Live wants a Summer Olympics Triathalon. You Roller Blade up to the lake, Water Ski accross it, get out and grill some steaks. I think there IS a Winter version.
Nice jimmy about time someone ripped that big goofy duddly doo right looking back bacon and donut eating canook.
YGTBKM,
“The argument “I’d like to see you do it” is very very weak, sid.”
I am very, very hurt by that criticism.
I meant swing your golf club to simulate a swing and see what torque is put on your ankle.
I DIDN’T MEAN:
1) work on your baseball skills
2) get to the Big Leagues
3) injure your ankle and
4) try to hit Ziegler’s curve ball.
BC On my TV JM always has flared red nostrils any chance he just put something up there that shouldn’t be going up there?
sid
OK, point taken. That makes more sense.
Morneau gets big, crazy eyes when someone hangs a breaking ball, and it creeps me out a little. Or it makes me laugh. I can’t remember which.
Does it look like Mourny is having feelings for Marney
http://minnesota.twins.mlb.com/min/images/community/y2008/morneau_275.jpg
YGTBKM,
My original statement was ambiguous, so no problem.
jimmy
who doesn’t
Who is the blonde lady?
When Mourneau’s eyes pop, you know something great is about to happen…
I wish FSN could make a trade with ESPN Telly Hughes for Erin Andrews.
didn’t MArney just pop out a kid, or doesn’t that deter you guys?
The Situationer are Mourny’s eyes getting ready to pop out after Marney on my link
lol, doesn’t bother me.
I didn’t think it was possible, but Telly Hughes is worse than Ron Coomer
You know, I think they are…
Telly hughes looks like Webster Popadopolous all grown up.
Wasn’t there a puppet on Sesame Street named Telly? Telly Monster?
I miss Ron Johnson. Remember the disgusted look on his face when he got sprayed with champagne in ‘06?
The dude can’t even speak correctly…how did he get that gig?
I made a pitch to FSN that when red dog retires they start a new sports news program like the naked news only with red dog and two hotties. I haven’t heard back yet.
I just like Bob Ueker, Bert or Vin Scully
the 2 hotties being Jordanna Green and Amy Hockert, hopefully.
Question for the group…
Some Managers are now benching players for not hustling or doing stupid stuff on the field. Most notably are BJ Upton and Jimmy Rollins. If Gardy is such an old school Manager, why isn’t he doing the same? On Sunday, Delmon hit a routine DP ball that the 2nd basemen dropped (in the transfer) and he still had time to pick it up and throw him out at first. Obviously, DY was jogging down the line because he tought it was an easy DP. He runs it out and he’s safe…easilt. Also, Punto forgets the # of out in KC and runs into a tag. Then Sunday he gets thrown out going to 3rd on a ball hit back to the pitcher.
I wish Gardy would hold his players accountable.
Bill,
Actually, Punto didn’t forget the # of outs, he thought the count on Mauer was 3-2 (instead of 2-2). He thought the pitch to Mauer was ball 4 so he didn’t have to run to 2nd any more.
I saw that, about upton. Obviously, Joe Maddon is a racist.
Bill Brasky Punto made a mental mistake and not a hustling mistake and as far as DY I think for a player being benched lately it is for a series of non hustling events not just one isn’t it.
jimmy
you are correct. With Upton it has happened a few times.
When was the last time Gardy benched someone for not hustling.
Gardy doesn’t bench people for not hustling. He benches them for not gettting after it.
He benches them for not working thier tails off.
He benches them in place of Punto
Is Punto like Bobby Hill on the stick episode of King Of the Hill
wit hpunto, you get a little more athleticism in there.
Oh, we forgot, he benches them if their battling it a little bit out there.
He benches Redmond every time he goes 3 for 4
He used to bench cuddyer, and call him out in the paper, for taking bad at bats.
Twins relievers since the all-star break:
Crain 6.35 ERA
Guerrer 12.27 ERA
Bass 3.12 ERA
Bonser 6.00 ERA
Breslow 2.77 ERA
Reyes 1.00 ERA
Nathan 0.68 ERA
Gardy benches Harris for LNP after he goes 2 - 4 with 2 doubles
Gardy benches LNP for… Oh, right.
Gardy also benched Carol for buying the brooms at “MY LOCAL HARDWARE STORE”
just a bit tooooo early for this series with the A’s
“about the only guy who’s never been ripped is Justin.”
Good point. Justin’s also the only league MVP on our squad (but as I said above, NO ONE is above a little booing if they aren’t acting like a professional on the field).
Love the “he benches them…” bit
Maybe thats why LNP slides into first just to show gardy he’s still getting after it.
“Gardy also benched Carol for buying the brooms at “MY LOCAL HARDWARE STORE”
just a bit tooooo early for this series with the A’s”
So true. Hopefully she won’t have the chance to re-sell them to Oakland come tomorrow afternoon.
“More than likely, he’s going to come up short of his 2007 numbers in HR, RBI, and doubles, but he’ll also come up short in at-bats”
He is also already ahead of his 2007 numbers for steals and triples, is tied in total walks, and will probably end up with fewer strike outs and more runs scored.
While his slugging is slightly down - .408 to .401 this year - it is nice to see that his OBP has risen from .316 to .333. I’ll trade the 7 points of slugging for the 17 points of OBP pretty much any day.
Gardy Benched Kubel for Craig Monroe and Rondell White, many times.
YGTBKM your right i remember how Dan Cole used to blame every loss on Cuddy that was hilarious.
Instead of sliding into first Punto should ram the first baseman like Pete Rose in the All Star game to the catcher
Billy Smith benched Johan Santana for Carlos “No comprende el slider” Gomez
LNP would bounce harmlessly off of most first basemen. They tend to be large, strong men.
Been away. I’m sure I was missed.
Looking through the stats…
Blackburn has hit a wall. I think it wouldn’t be bad idea to mystery DL Everett, and call up a pitcher to pitch next time Blackburn is suppose to. Give him a week off, and let him get some juice back in the arm.
I also think it’s time to end the BASS ACKWARDS experement, and bring back Korecky, or the kid from AA (name escapes me)… I hate it when that happens, but I’m getting old.
Be well, and when all else fails whip Punterrible, and be reminded that if he wasn’t playing with Gardy’s Bathroom Caulk he’d never see the field in a major league game…
Billy benched Liriano for Livan
Billy benched Harris for Everett when he couldn’t lift his arm
Pohlad benched last year’s team salary for a salary 15M less
Twins starters since the all-star break:
Liriano 3-0, 1.45 ERA
Perkins 4-1, 4.23 ERA
Slowey 3-2, 3.09 ERA
Blackburn 2-2, 3.93 ERA
Baker 1-1, 4.91 ERA
Did gardy get his caulk at My Local Hardware Store?
Billy benched bradford for Bass
Billy benched a mystery player regarded by all to be a first round pick, for Carlos Guitierez.
BC Beneke how is the campaign going to have McFail fired
McFail will never be fired. He hired the same private investigator to get naughty pictures of taylor, as punto hired to get his pics of gardy.
I want a job like McFails. I could never get fired. I could trade the whole team away for Shawn Bradley or Manut Bull and never get fired
ygtbkm,
“Billy benched a mystery player regarded by all to be a first round pick, for Carlos Guitierez.”
The mystery player was Gerritt Cole who just rejected a busload of money offered by the Yankees to go to college on the advice of Scott Boras.
I know, because when the Twins picked Gutierrez, then the Yankees picked Cole, I threw my computer monitor out the window.
watch out jimmy you were put on waivers!
ggg Oh crud nooooo please don’t banish me off to the Wolves blog
sane
college kids can have agents? Or was boras giving “free advice”?
Hey sane when you threw that computer how far did it go? Just checking to see if your arms strong enough to help the bullpen.
ygtbkm,
Cole was a HS senior at Orange Lutheran HS (CA) at the time so I am sure the advice was free - for now!
we need a new blog entry,,,, these posts are getting lame
BC,
when you threw that computer how far did it go? Just checking to see if your arms strong enough to help the bullpen.
My arm is not that strong anymore, but no one hit it back at me.
So, the Twins bullpen thing sounds do-able.
Isn’t boras reviled by GMs and (most) players alike, for being to greedy, even for an agent? If Cole is a pitcher, he is a dimwit. One elbow twinge, and there goes that massive signing bonus.
kevin,
“we need a new blog entry,,,, these posts are getting lame”
Thanks.
I won’t take that personally.
Cole is a pitcher.
So were Jared Weaver and Luke Hochevar, who are now rich pitchers.
lame it is. we should all be put on waivers!!
maybe the twins are in the midst of making a big trade, and the beat writers are to busy to post.
Lame is OK as long as we were “getting after it!”
they may be rich, but a pitching arm is a fragile thing for an 18 year old kid to gamble millions of dollars on. I think I would sign, were i drafted in the first round, or being offered first round money.
I would demand a trade, if i were optioned to the T-wolves blog.
ygtbkm,
You are right.
Boras will probably keep Cole in a glass bubble until he lays the golden egg.
ALERT! Billy trades for Gene Larkin and Denny Hocking 2 players that get after it,battle their tail off, keep grinding away…… zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
i’m battling!
T-wolves blog?
I would rather go to prison.
You meet a better class of people there.
sane somedays I feel like sitting at my desk and Yelling to the tune of Randy Newmans very own. I Love LA!
I would rather be a Clipper fan then a Wolves fan
i got after it and got this off sickel’s site:
He was a third round draft pick by Minnesota in 2007, he is from Puerto Rico. He’s a speedy CF who is 6″1 about 180. Before the draft most the publications said he lacked power.
Angel who is only 18 years of age, in the Appy League, one of the younger guys in the league now leads the league in Home runs with 15, after hitting 4 Homers in his past 3 games, including 2 tonight. He has had some problems with strikeouts but still maintains a .420 on base % and .330 average.
The twins must be thrilled with this pick so far, if he can clean up his strikeouts a bit he looks to have unlimited potential as 5 tool prospect.
Twins depth in CF is pretty nice in the minors ( ben revere, angel morales, aaron hicks) all in the lower levels. Watch out Carlos Gomez…..
jimmy bee,
have you ever seen how much “Family Guy” loves Randy Newman?
I loved the Wolves from say 97-2004, then bam!, right into the sh*tter.
jimmy,
This year all SoCals love LA.
August the FREAKING NINETEENTH.
70-75 degrees and comfortable every day this summer.
Most comfortable summer of my life!
Shawn in Binghamton I listened to the right fooot left foot right foot left foot song. Hilarious
sane last winter with La Nina made me a mental wreck. I am considering FL, Mesa AZ, or SGV
I love the Wolves for sending KG to my Celtics.
lineups please….someone get after it!
We better start “getting after it” to get our posts back UP to the lame level.
BC the wolves are the worst managed team in all of sports ranking up there with the Royals.
I like the “eating the apple song” from family guy.
short people song rocks
question: if no one posts on a T-Pups blog is there really a blog to begin with?
Ok this chain of entries has officially skidded off the road. Time for something new. How about booing DY? Oh wait..that seemed like so long ago. sigh.
Sane,
Acutally without the net at home anymore I have been working out more, and I think my arm is probably about as good as it’s been in 10 years (still sucks, but I think it could compare with Dennys Reyes, and I’d pitch for meal money!
Sane,
I didn’t throw the computer believe it or not. Our financial situation has been pretty lousy since jr. took office (more coincidence than directly his fault), much more Pawlenty’s fault for the no new taxes, and the huge increase in my property taxes to be honest)… but anyways, we had one hard drive fry right before I canned the internet at home, and the other is running Windows ME… so if I could pick up that 80lb monitor I would be tossing that before the hard drives…
Hopefully once I get a new one I can go in and frag out the things I need to keep off of the old hard drive… Luckily I follow the rules, and am very anal… I have copies of copies of copies of most of my writing, and family pictures…
but back to the facts at hand. Blackburn needs to be skipped for a start, or held back a couple of extra days, and Brian Bassackwards needs to go so we can bring up Korecky, or the kid from AA that I still can’t remember.
As for the Wolves blog… it can get nasty in there, but if you want to see the worst possible people on the planet blogging go into Katherine Kersten’s page… Anne Coulter’s evil ugly wicked witch of a writer has no business writing… the two political writers for the strib are both worthless, the liberal guy is a Michael Moore wannabee, and the KKKersten writes the rough drafts of her work in farm animal blood.
SOmeone tell the beat writers to “get after it” and write something new that we can overanalyze then switch subjects and talk about completely unrelated topics.
this blog needs a new post NOW!
Kersten hates the UFC and strip clubs for some reason.
Beneke you crack me up
they need to “battle their tails off” and “grind it out” to our specifications! with just the right touch of HOMERISM and 20/20 hindsight
gobbledygookguy says:
August 19th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
“i got after it and got this off sickel’s site:He was a third round draft pick by Minnesota in 2007, he is from Puerto Rico. He’s a speedy CF who is 6″1 about 180. Before the draft most the publications said he lacked power.”
Gobbledygookguy,
Please get with the program. These Publications NEVER get it wrong. This guy is just the other “beer League” guy we got in that draft.
There’s NO THERE THERE. Accept that fact so you won’t end up disappointed.
Regards,
Beneke
I don’t think it’s farm animal blood. It’s puppy blood.
And coleman Writes about his hatred for the other side and the ballpark with kitten blood.
Dragon
Your posts are usually well written, but i don’t understand “There’s NO THERE THERE.”
Not goat blood with a goat skull branding an insignia in sight
i was trying to get after it, sorry.
when ever the lineup comes out i don’t like it!
I don’t understand why Dragon ends all his posts with regards,
sincerely yours,
BC how bout ending them like “piss off because I’m BC and I’m from ND”
hmmm….
Have A Great Day,
There’s NO THERE THERE.”
Gertrude Stein’s quotation about Oakland.
ygtbkm!
I am offering advice to help avoid the disappointment when the realization that beer league players are what they are AND have NO ML Potential.
Better to accept the inevitable early on before investing hope for nothing
Regards,
Can’t do that jimmy I’m from ND and we’re much nicer then Minnesotans and better looking.
Probably better drivers too.
LOL, better looking, my ass.
Probably better drivers too.
There are no traffic accidents in N.D.
You can go off the road and never hit anything.
YGTBKM never seen your ass but if it is you obviously have ND roots.
I don’t know about better driver’s either. Didn’t their governor run over a motorcycle? Or was that their southern neighbor?
Joe or any one are the Twins intrested in signing Al Reyes ?
sid you might hit a cow if you stay asleep too long but that’s about it.
I do have some family in ND, and I have seen your native women. You are the Bison state for a reason.
I visit NODAK alot they are much worse drivers!!! sorry to burst the bubble.. signal lights apparently are not used in NODAK
If we were really interested in Alan Embree or Washburn, why would we not go after Al Reyes who has a lower ERA than both and was 26 - 30 in save ops last year. Come on BS.
FIRE since I move here I am constantly being tail gated and no one will ever let you into a lane even though your lane may be ending. They tail gate in blizzards and on shear ice. Bad drivers verrrry bad drivers
MOVED
jimmy,
LA freeways are the safest in the world.
You can’t do any damage at 3 mph.
lineups please (for the love of God this has moved to traffic conversation)!
Come on Joe C….get after it!
When the heck our freeways around here going to get above 2 and 4 lanes. I feel like I am in the 50’s. What year is it anyways?
Yes but our Bison women don’t have diets restricted to eating there own kin. I swear there’s so many fat chicks in MN that i wonder if they banned the sale of fruits and vegetables and shut down all the gyms.
Jason,
Deal with the conversation upgrade!
no doubt jimmy
BC the state body part is the Kankle
Kankles? this isn’t a Brewers blog!
“the state body part is the Kankle”
I retract my post regarding “conversation upgrades”
BC
They aren’t fat! They are corn fed and candy coated. Pleasantly plump, if you will.
I don’t know what ND women look like but the women I work with are fat with real short haircuts and Kankles. Eye candy I don’t think so unless someone was to be turned on by women that look like short fat men
sorry sid I will go back to baseball now.
jimmy bee,
are you sure you’re not looking in the mirror?
Ok here’s a baseball question does anyone(besides jimmy)think the Dodgers have a chance of winning it all this year?
BC…no, they don’t get after it.
No because the Angels will win it all if the Twins don’t make the playoffs and beat them
True I still think the team to watch out for is the Cards in the NL.
LATER BC
Is there any interest in Al Reyes from the Twins? He’s sure as heck better then Brian Bass.
Twins would be better off calling bullpen help up rather than trading at this point. See if Korecky can do anyhting. It’s not like the call ups that HAVE been made haven’t had an impact or anything.
The Twins need to get rid of Gardenhire and obtain a better manager, one who can control his anger and think clearly. Gardenhire embarrasses Minnesota with his outrages at the umpires and kicking his hat over his head like a drunken baffoon. He sets a very bad example for all the children who watch the games. He should obtain some mental health therapy to help him with his anger management problem as soon as possible before his anger results in more dangersous situations for himself and others.
Garenhire seems to be a bully who tries to intimidate the umpires with his rages of screaming and kicking. The umpires are simply trying to do their job by maintaining order and enforcing baseball rules on the field. Gardenhire certain is the post boy for an adult baffoon and sets a real bad example for children who watch the baseball games.
“He (Gardy)should obtain some mental health therapy to help him with his anger management problem as soon as possible before his anger results in more dangersous situations for himself and others.”
Best case scenario - Gardy strangles tommy/herb before they (he) can post again.
I was shocked in the offseason when Smith traded Garza, Barlett, and Morlan for Young, Harris, and Pridie. All the hype subdued my resentment mommentarily, but looking at the numbers, Garza has emerged to be one of the best pitchers in the league, 14th in era, has the best stuff on the Rays staff, and is a big game pitcher, Barlett has improved defensively, and Morlan supposedly had the best stuff in the Twins system. Young, however, has been painful to watch, especially with men on base, he seems like a double play machine in important at-bats, and I almost prefer that he strike out and give the next guy a chance in clutch situations. His fielding is awful as well, compared to Span and Gomez, is almost comical. Granted, a softmore slump is common but in early interviews he said he wasn’t concerned about his lack of production and that he was a very slow starter, waiting until the second half to get locked in. Well, for his sake and that of the Twins, I hope this is true, because right now he seems expendable.
kudos sid, Gardenhire can do whatever he wants as long as the Twins keep winning. Baseball, as professional sports in general, is supposed to be entertaining, and has become too pc over the last decade; pitchers are afraid to throw inside lest they hit a batter and are ejected, and hitters hang over the plate wearing all sorts of armor to protect themselves; the manager is one of the last vestiges of rawness in baseball and should be able to argue a call and stand up for his players, it’s part of the game
Best case scenario - Gardy strangles tommy/herb before they (he) can post again.
Or he’s finally banned.
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