Practice 1 in the books
Posted on March 27th, 2008 – 6:52 PMBy Chip Scoggins
Gophers coach Tim Brewster said his team concluded its first practice of the spring by doing a no-huddle session. That tells you how much farther ahead the offense is this spring. A year ago the offense was trying to figure out which way was up on the first day.
Here are some of Brewster’s thoughts after the first practice.
– Brewster was excited about the play of QB Adam Weber, saying he looks so much more comfortable this spring. Weber is getting 50 percent of the reps and the other QBs are splitting the rest. Brewster said he has challenged Weber to be more of a vocal leader and he saw some of that today. Said he took charge of the huddle more.
– It’s obvious that junior college safety Tramaine Brock has already become a Brewster favorite. Brewster had more praise for him today. He said Brock can play either safety position and is also fast enough to play cornerback. “He is a special football player, a special guy,” Brewster said. “He’s extremely confident. He has great, explosive twitch to his body.”
– Defensive end Willie VanDeSteeg had a strong first day and made a few plays at the end of practice. I chatted with Willie afterward and he said his right wrist finally feels good. He said he wears a brace in practice but he has no limitations with it.
– Willie said the new defense is a lot different for the line. “(Last year) we did a right and left D-end and a right and left D-tackle,” he said. “Now, we have a power (end ), a rush and a tackle and a nose,” VanDeSteeg said. “It’s a big difference for us. The rush is more of like a standup linebacker. That kind of stuff. It’s way different.”
280 Responses to "Practice 1 in the books"
Brewster is “excited?” Go figure…..
And Recruiting is a LOSER, “Go figure…
Thanks for the report Chip. Can we expect one each day of practice?
I do think this team will be much better this year. I think we will win 4 to 8 games this year. My guess is 6 games. (3 non-conference, 3 Big Ten). Brewster does need to step it up this year. He didn’t inherit a great team, but with a year under his belt things should get better.
I think this year will determine if the program is headed for the graveyard or greatness. One year was just way too early to determine which direction we are headed.
I hope greatness but we’ll find out this year.
Baby steps….
I look for a 6 win (or so) season and big things beyond next season. Cant wait!!!
It feels good to be talking Gopher football again! Go Gophs!!
This is good stuff Chip:
– Willie said the new defense is a lot different for the line. “(Last year) we did a right and left D-end and a right and left D-tackle,” he said. “Now, we have a power (end ), a rush and a tackle and a nose,” VanDeSteeg said. “It’s a big difference for us. The rush is more of like a standup linebacker. That kind of stuff. It’s way different.”
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This is the sort of thing I was looking for yesterday. It appears that this D-line scheme will disrupt opposing blocking assignments. We should see some quite a bit more pressure on the QB if we can correctly pull this off.
Hey, Chip is turniong into Roman with the frequency of his posts. I love it!
Scooter, I hope you’re right about the d-line. I think Withers was ambivalent about his line play, focused too much on a slow secondary.
It’s good to hear that Willie VDS is feeling healthy and that his wrist won’t bother him come next season. They need him to be/stay healthy. Go Gophs!
The coaches last year didn’t pay any attention to the talent that they did have. They thought they could do things with systems. That foolish thinking led to their demise in 2007. They HAVE to utilize the talent that they do have and modify their stupid systems to best utilize the players they do have NOW.
The sechdule is SO easy that anything less than 7 wins would be another setback.
It is about the players that you DO have brewster. YOU have to modify your “systems” to best put your players in a position to WIN Big Ten Football games. YOU owe that to the players that you DO HAVE brewster. Do you understand that?
It is NOT about using systems that won’t work with what you do have. It is ALL about modifying your silly systems to match the players that you do have. What you don’t have can only hurt you when you have TOO much loyalty to your system rather than having enough loyalty, belief, dedication and ability to coach the players you DO have.
The players you don’t have are NOT the players you should be scheming for and coaching for.
You threw away the season last year brewster by putting you stupid schemes ahead of the players that you did have. That will forever leave your first year record at 1-11 overall and 0-8 in the Big Ten. THAT will make things mighty tough for you during the next few years.
LEARN something. The schedule sets up for a heck of a LOT of wins this year. The Big Ten is once again NOT strong from top to bottom. You play iowa, indiana and NU at the dome. You have GOT to beat them at the dome. It will NOT be your silly schemes that can beat them…it will be the players that you DO have now that will beat them!
Don’t let your players down again brewster.
And, brewster, don’t kid yourself. It was NOT just the defense that lost games for you last year. Granted, the silly schemes on defense you were committed to hurt. However, it was you offensive schemes and playcalling that killed you in 2007. Your offensd did nothing to help your defense. That was your choice.
Remember brewster: the schedule in 2008 sets up for a LOT of wins. You play an incredibly weak schedule. You NEED to win the games that you should win…and I have reason to believe that you should have won a LOT more games in 2007 than you did win. It was your failure to modify your schemes last season to be a better fit for your players that burned your butt so badly in 2007. Get it together brewster! It is ALL about the players that you DO have and it NOT about the players that you do NOT have. That is just a fact of life. Be ALL that you can be with what you DO have rather thangoing through the motions of what you WISH you were if ONLY you had other players. You have the players that you have. You let them down in 2007 by wanting them to be players that you did NOT have. Shame on you for that brewster. Now: learn from the mistakes you made last season and WIN some Big Ten games in 2008!
eyeinthesky, take a deep breath and exhale. It’s going to be ok. Warn us next time you’re going to ramble on incoherently for 10 paragraghs. I see a straight jacket in your future.
Ohhhhhhhh you ain’t made it..none of you have made it…..stay f’ed up! Willy V is highly condemned. Is he even out of jail? Next one will be a good one!!
Ok brewster…just keep up the great work you did in 2007! We all LOVED it! Nothing is better than a 0-8 Big Ten record. Of course j-dude or j-dudette all was well in the Biermna comples in 2007. We should be so lucky as to have a repeat preformance from this gm/recruiter we laughingly refer to as brewster…
eyeuphisass, you and Looney Toons are the two worst hypocrites alive. If you think things are so bad, and Looney (of such high moral fiber) thinks Brewster is cheating, then find another hobby.
Otherwise, try to support the team, Loser.
Ok jimbotheclasslessass: Just like the troops…I support the team. However, I don’t support idiotic leaders and cheerleaders and people who have had parents who failed them miserably such as the parents of jimbotheclasslessass. I suppose they may have tried their best…but…they were a bust jimbotheclasslessass.
You are dismissed…
Shit guy..play the game…they all cheat! Hes cackling like a turkey! Well whos Tom? I’ll save ya……
ohhhhhhhhh..tolla knows, eye! There is a pharoah marching through the holy land to Palestine….bombs are in the air…..
Eye, ramble on with negativity. You can’t get the big time recruits with systems run in past. Marques gray would never have committed here with the prior run offense. Recruits commit because they beleive that they can excel playing for the gophers. Look at mich they lost 5 star qb cause doesn’t fit new system. Get over it sometimes some sacrifices have to be made. Mich coach is doing same thing. Get a grip as low as it has been in past 10 years. Mason would never get past 6-6 with his defenses and no longer have the barbers and mahronys around. Also losing those players due to legel issues compounded the level of talent being even lower. Either jump on the bandwagon or get run over by it.
you ain’t made it gp but I’ll save ya! Marks gray won’t stay…i tried to warn you!
Take another pill, eye. What’s your narcotic of choice today, Loser?
I can’t quite figure out what my parents have to do with this. The only thing I DO know is that you, Loser, would not be qualified to wash their car.
shes a good little girl….she wouldn’t do that! Thats my daddy larry!
jimbo wants to be one! You want to be one, be one..you want to stay one, stay one! I tried to warn you!
I’ll save ya..
I always thought my parents failed me and now thanks to Eye, I know for a fact they did. Thank you Eye for clearing that up for me! You just saved me thousands of dollars in therapy.
hey guys! I’ve been away for awhile, and took a poke at ol’ recruiting at the top, but now this oddball Sellers makes recruiting look smart…at least his posts were near the topic
Well whos barred?
Truth be told, G-1, my parents would be appalled at the comments I direct at eye. They were not able to teach me to have patience when dealing with fools.
“Barred?” I think you have been in a bar too long, but I’m not sure where you’re heading with the question
Now your talkin! Stay one..
chesky….chesky…..
jimbo: YOU call me so many names and tack nice little tidbits such as “idiot”, “fool”, etc. Of course coming from someone who acts as boorish as you, your comments mean nothing. Just because the 2007 season totally disgusted me and I put all responsibility for that season directly on the person who was responsible for the 2007 season…brewster, you get SO bent out of shape. You are the little dude or dudette, which ever the case may be, who claims to not care one way or another how Gopher Football goes. So, WHY do you turn into such a prissy little name caller then?
And, quite frankly, perhaps your parents are about like any other parents…and certainly aren’t less than any other parents…but…they certainly aren’t a cut above any average good parents either.
You consider yourself to be in a “class” of your own? That is really funny. You certainly don’t act like it…and, besides that: it takes more than “acting” to succeed at being a decent human being.
GOPHER1: well then, you had better keep your parents away from jimbotheclasslessass’s parents or he will say all kinds of nasty things about you. Of course, jimbotheclasslessass’s parents will probably ground him and not allow him to leave their basement for exposing them to your parent’s short-comings. At the orphanage we used to wonder what it would be like to have had parents. Life certainly does present interesting situations for us all, would you not agree?
Eye- why are you so bitter and angry? The reason new coaches or management in other fields are brought in is not to keep the status quo and keep doing what has already been done. Brewster was hired as head coach for his visions, ideas, and philosophies and obviously his ability to “sell” them.
I think it has been well documented that Brewster had little to work with here as well as implementing brand new systems. Do you think that any other coach could have really done better? There were 6 games that the Gophers lost by a TD or less last year. With a year of familiarity under their belts- the Gophers should be much better this year.
We need to have more patience and give Brewster time- we can always aspire for mediocrity again if he fails- I am sure that would make you happy.
“Of course j-dude or j-dudette all was well in the Biermna comples in 2007.”
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Translation?
The only way I am going to get run over by the Brewster bandwagon is if I stand too close to one of the exits at the Dome in the third quarter. If I just stay in my seat and cheer for our legal players, I’ll be perfectly safe.
Little to work with? Why would you say that? The problem was in the total implementation of the new systems. TAHT was brewster’s choice. Yet, the pathetic apologists for brewster always try to make it NONE of brewster’s fault and the fault of the returning players. THAT is sick, excuse-making. brewster earned every single loss of that 2007 seson. There did NOT have to be so many losses in the 2007 season. Each and every one of them goes on brewster’s neck.
Those close losses most certainly could have and should have been close wins. It was NOT the fault of the players. It was the fault of the coaches and the systems.
Now your talkin Loon….that one you got right!
I’ll save ya!
It bonds them together..it conncets them to one another! Well whos barred?
Sing you..sad sad songs……
You are missing the point Eye. Implementation of new systems is the reason that Brewster was hired. There is no better time than the present to make change. These systems are what Brewster knows and have experience with. What would you have had Brewster do then? If you think you can do it better- you should have interviewed to succeed Mason. What the kids on the team needed was stronger leadership- an action guy- not one that continually made excuses like the previous regime. While it may not have gotten us the number of wins we all would like- at least he has started the process. I am sure that you will agree that at some time- he would have to implement his plans- that is what a leader does. The strong survive my friend.
Theres a wild beast number 1 and a wild beast number 2…and a second lieutenant in there somewhere…
Well whos Terry?
Eyeuphisass, I do pity you, with your anger and bitterness. You, my friend, would not know class if it came up and bit your fat behind.
You do not know any members of my family, and they most certainly wouldn’t associate with the likes of you. One thing I can say, is that my parents were very proud of me, and I of them. I’m guessing you can’t say the same.
haa haa haa..jimbos cacklin like a turkey! BE ONE!
ohhhhhhhh…..tonights fun nite!
I’m just going to take one game at a time and enjoy the new stadium. If Brewster doesn’t improve things, he should be on the hot seat. I think you have to give Brewster three seasons unless things go absolutely disastrous (0 to 3 victories), but I think the Gophers will take a big step forward this year. After this year we’ll get a better idea where the program is going.
Gold04, that’s my take on things, too. Certainly if Brewster doesn’t have a winning season by 2009 he deserves to be canned. Unfortunately, “fans” like eye and Looney Toons would prefer to have him fail.
“Little to work with? Why would you say that?”
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Let’s see….the 103rd ranked defense in 2006? Is that a lot to work with?
Who the heck are you danny sellers, someone who forgot to take his medication today???????????? WOW!!!!!!!!!!
i tried to warn you lbb…but you would not listen! He’ll sell you out in a minute when the time comes…
littlebigboy says:
March 28th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Who the heck are you danny sellers
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Recruiting/Pantherhawk. Look at the writing style or lack there of.
Jimbo says:
March 28th, 2008 at 9:20 am
Take another pill, eye. What’s your narcotic of choice today, Loser?
I can’t quite figure out what my parents have to do with this. The only thing I DO know is that you, Loser, would not be qualified to wash their car.
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Watch it Jimbo or you will get a phone call. LMAOR.
Shit guy..I’m not one of those sobs…i hate them…i do……it highly condemned!
thats my daddy Larry.
orange sunshine derek, that will make a man out of you and you can talk to the savior 2!
i tried to warn you
i was married. but then i took an ax to my fathernlaw.
Not worried Derek. Between calling you and writing insipd postings, I’m sure nether of them has time for me.
Eye … You are far too pathetically ignorant about college football to be a credible commentator on Brewster’s moves. His knowledge of coaching football exceeds yours by multiples of millions.
Quite frankly, you are not even qualifified to be a fan. You simply know nothing about the game, let alone how to develop a program.
Looks like you’re feeling better, d_a(sp)_c! Glad to see you back!
1-11? Some developement.
By the way, all of you brave leaders are predicting 4, 5 or 6 wins this year. Do you think Brewster’s 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th….Big Ten losses in a row are going to fly? I’m not sure a 1-15 Big Ten record over two seasons will be thought of as “developement”.
Development, Looney Toons. No “e.” Your 3rd grade teacher would be very disappointed. And you taught in high school? Amazing.
By fouth grade I was a spelling legend. No idea how to spell, then or now.
You guys can say you do not expect much more than four or five wins right now, but just wait. As the BT losing streak adds up, the heat will add up. Throw in an arrest or two and we’ll really start to hear all the “gosh, how were we to know?” excuses.
You bet the heat will be on if we go 0-fer in the Big Ten, but you guys act like we are already 0-fer in the Big Ten in 2008. Why even care about the Gophers if you don’t have an ounce of optimism? Why take the time and energy to constantly damn something you obviously hate? That is a crap way to go through life.
Throw in an arrest or two and we’ll really start to hear all the “gosh, how were we to know?” excuses.
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Translation: We should’ve signed more white guys.
Looney, you must have been the laughing stock of the school when you’d write things on the board that were full of spelling errors. I guess spelling would be a basic skill I would expect in an educator.
Did you also teach your students that they should stereotype pople based on the color of their skin?
I was just telling my coworkers about Loon and they’re wondering if you can keep a beat, because they think white people can’t.
NYC Gopher Fan says:
March 28th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
I was just telling my coworkers about Loon and they’re wondering if you can keep a beat, because they think white people can’t.
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Do they think phags have limp wrists and spread all kinds of scurges?
I knew there was a reason I liked NDSU other than they made the foreign legion look bad.
Recruiting: Thank you for continuing to make yourself look like a total loser
Well whos Tom?
Well who is Danny Sellers? A retard or a fricking nut job?
loons right, osama aint made it
shit guy..everything has a right to life
its the final warning
tolla was right
whos barred?
“Throw in an arrest or two and we’ll really start to hear all the “gosh, how were we to know?” excuses.”
The only arrests I’ve seen during Brewster’s run are of the guys that Mason brought in! Under his tootalidge we saw one young man gunned down and 3 accused of rape. Funny how he hasn’t sniffed another job in coaching. I hear Augsburg could use a o-line coach. Mase would be better served at that level, he was clearly over his head in the Big Ten.
Oh yes kinta: brewster has covered himself with glory in compiling that stunning 1-11 overall…ZERO and eight Big Ten record. I don’t really know if brewster is ready to be the recruiting coordinator OR tight ends coach at Inver Hills Community College. Does the term “over his head…” ring a bell? The Big Ten busted his butt big time in 2007… Trash that jerk Mason all you wish…he is not the coach and hasn’t been the coach for a long time now. Coaches are a dime a dozen. Coaches were made to be ripped, bashed on, trashed on and brewster had better start winning a lot of Big Ten games or he will totally be ripped a new one following each and every Big Ten loss. He will start looking like a human land-fill he will be trashed on so often.
The dude needs to come up with at least 3 Big Ten wins in 2008 (iowa, Indiana and NU all are at the dome…they are chopped liver and sisters of the poor in the Big Ten. brewster needs to get that done.) He needs to qualify his team for a crappy bowl game and most likely not nearly enough fans will travel to that crappy bowl game.
Will the student section be mostly empty by the end of the third quarter again in 2008? Too pathetic for words. brewster ball just didn’t capture their attention during the 2007 season.
I AGREE Loon!
Brewster DOES need to start winning games. This is the break or make year for Brewster. I would be disappointed if we didn’t we three games in the non conference and three in the Big Ten. If Brewster can’t win 4 games with this schedule, he should be fired. If he can’t win 7 games in 2009 he should be fire.
I do think Brewster will get things turned around. I think his team is going to do suprising well this year. We’ll find out soon enough if I’m right.
Mmmmm….beer. Is it fall yet?
Wren your absolustely right too!
Mase is a jerk, I’m glad you finally agreed. When did the light bulb go on and you finally realize that.
All coaches are jerks. Mason was no worse than any other. In fact, he lasted longer than any coach is going to last in this football program for a long time to come.
brewster is an incredible jerk who has never won a Big Ten game. brewster will be bashed, mobbed, and made an example of until he wins a LOT of Big Ten games. He has won zero, zilch, zippo games that count for anything.
IF the big Ten beat downs start coming on strong at Columbus in 2008, the incredibly, big mouthed jerk brewster will be beaten up in the press. It will filter down to the casual fans …the ones named jim…and…norman…every dale and hamlet in the state will recall brewster’s hype and will start throwing it back at him. They will demand an ad-ectomy. IF that doesn’t come, a “prexy-ectomy” will be hastened. After all, the prexy is long of tooth and is talking nonsense and needs to retire.
Big Ten wins are the ONLY thing that can stall the inevitable fate for brewster. He will be laughed at and scorned unless he wins at least three Big Ten wins in 2008 and takes his team to a crappy bowl game that the gopher-nation will attend in sparse groupings and numbers.
THIS is the heart of the matter I spoke of goldohfour:
“Coaches are a dime a dozen. Coaches were made to be ripped, bashed on, trashed on and brewster had better start winning a lot of Big Ten games or he will totally be ripped a new one following each and every Big Ten loss. He will start looking like a human land-fill he will be trashed on so often…”
brewster was BAD news in 2007.
You always said “Mase” did a good job as you made your back-handed remarks. What a wimp you are. Ever since I saw the results of “brewsterball” in 2007, I have been telling it like it is. ONLY Big Ten wins count for anything. However, ooc losses hurt like hell. At the graveyard of college coaching all coaches will be bashed, mobbed, trashed unless they win LOTS of Big Ten football games. The clock started ticking on brewster based upon HIS results in 2007. When is the first Big Ten game of the season? We will know more about brewster when he goes into Columbus. He needs WINS in the Big Ten. He had better show up for that game, at least. Will he EVER beat the Buckeyes? Will he EVER beat any team in the Big Ten?
EXPECTATIONS. THAT is what is needed from day ONE. THAT ws the call in 2006…and THAT is what we shall now have!
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn!
Kinta, eye, Gold04:
GLEN MASON WAS DISMISSED AS MINNESOTA’S FOOTBALL COACH IN JANUARY, 2007. MOVE ON.
While they’ve only had one practice, it’s becoming more clear as to who the O & D leaders will be.
Weber seems to be taking on the offensive leadership role nicely. As a redshirted freshman, I don’t know if that was the case. Experience is the best teacher in this case and while he’s not an overwhelming natural leader, he’s learning it and rising to the occasion.
Tramaine Brock is the one to watch for 2008. Brewster has put that honor on him even this early. This must be one special individual. I’m sure he worked hard in the weightroom and classroom, but to hear Brewster talk about him in the way he has this early, he must be something really special. I hope Brewster is right.
I’d like to see how the rest of the team progressed over the winter. OneOldeGopher Guy has been lamenting few Offensive line recruits. I’m counting 4 O-Line redshirted Freshman that are quite highly regarded (Wynn, Davis, Bunders and Orton). Also, we have Nick Weber (CC transfer) and we’ll have Matt Carufel next year. At this point, I think that opinion is unfounded.
Man, I never thought I’d get Wren to respond like I did. I have always maintained that Mase was a good coach. In fact, I have defended Mase a number of times. Wren, your post shows what kind of person you are. Turning your back on our coaches, athletes, and University. You should be ashamed of yourself. I supported our coaches, team, and university no matter who was coaching. Everygame I wanted to see them win.
I believe Brewster will get Big Ten wins this year. I’m optimist. I believe you have to give people a fair chance. Let this year play out. I think most everyone here agrees with you. Brewster NEEDS to start winning in the Big Ten. We are not willing to throw him under the bus after one season in which he inherited a team which was predicted to finish dead last in the Big Ten.
If Brewster struggles again this year, I’ll agree with you, but I think things will start turning around this year.
I think this year Weber will have a stellar year. O-line will be fine. We have five guys back who have started at least three games last year, plus you add Brinkaus, Nick Webber, Hudson (back on O-line) and four freshmen. I think we’ll be fine on the o-line.
Secondary is my concern, but I think Traye is still expected to make it here by summer, so that should help.
I think this year we’ll be significantly better. We’ll just have to see how things play out this year!
Jimbo, first day of class I assign some cute little girl in the first row to correct any spelling errors I make. Clerical problem solved.
I taught the kids that every man and woman are responsible for their own actions. Nobody on this planet really gives a serious damn if they do a face plant every day or not. You can decide to do well or you can decide to fail and blame someone else. Your fate is in your hands. “Now let’s get down to work.”
Kids are actually OK with that in high school. They have not learned the “blame game” yet. In other classes, they were learning it too often.
Papa,
Please stop coming here and making an asshole of yourself. Please do something fun with me and mama instead! Lets go to the waterpark instead of sit on your computer day and night. I won’t even care if people laugh and point at your fat tummy.
Loon …. If by some miracle you actually had a handful of students who did not learn the blame game from you, that would be remarkable in and of itself. You are one of the worst of the gatuitous blamers and hate-mongers.
You never should have had access to students. As a “teacher” you are a complete fraud.
You know.. I wish so-called fans would respect each other. Too often the comments deteriorate into name-calling, etc.. Seriously, the comments service that the StarTribune provides isn’t about us “the readers”. It gives the fans an opportunity to reflect with others regarding “the team”. Chip, thanks for the great information, I really appreciate hearing about the Gophers FB team (i live in CA). Look forward to your next report.
Brickyard1981 says:
goofers can’t win with mn kids because mn kids are a bunch of pussys.
brickyard1981 Unfortunately racism goes beyond the Loon in the general fan base. #1 [url] [-]
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03/29/08 12:43 PM
When certain fans start to really notice that a much larger % of the recruits brought in, now that Brewster is working his recruiting magic, happen to be:
1. Black
2. Not from Minnesota or anywhere close to Minnesota
these somewhat silent, but borderline racist people will start to be uncomfortable and maybe even start complaining, even if we start to win 7-8 games a year.
Brewster threw out a few token offers this year to MN kids, because his recruiting hadn’t yet picked up steam, and he wanted to influence EP, CDH, and other programs. If he gets the national players he wants in increasing numbers, he cannot afford to take too many local players, and be a top 10 program.
Sure, some of theme will load their complaints with a focus on the lack of “Minnesota” kids, but make no mistake the increase of urban black recruits will be part of it.
My view of this is I really do not care at all where they come from, or much else, other than they get into school and can play football, especially on defense. If Brewster recruits defensive monsters, the rest will take care of itself. I fully support Brewster’s recruiting efforts.
Great corners, fast linebackers, and large, but quick DTs are also what will make all the difference. If Dunbar found production in in the athletes he had at NU, I am not too concerned about the offense, as much as I preferred to old offense.
Last Edited By: brickyard1981 03/29/08 12:47 PM. Edited 2 times.
jp says:
You know.. I wish so-called fans would respect each other. Too often the comments deteriorate into name-calling, etc.. Seriously, the comments service that the StarTribune provides isn’t about us “the readers”. It gives the fans an opportunity to reflect with others regarding “the team”. Chip, thanks for the great information, I really appreciate hearing about the Gophers FB team (i live in CA). Look forward to your next report.
You know.. jp, you sound like one og those mn poooooooosies too.
My profile:
http://www.connexion.org/viewprofile.cfm?id=284636
Lets hook up for some gopher games guys
Zzzzzzzz
Jeez recruiting you know more about the gay lifestyle than I do.
And also Recruiting, why would I be looking in Minneapolis? I live in Manhattan. So what are you doing on a Minneapolis gay cruise site?
Loon. You are an complete hypocrite and totally irresponsible. How could you, as a so called educator, say that “I taught that every man & woman are responsible for their own actions.” Yet you blow of your resonsibility and duty as a teacher to a cute gal in the front row!
I would have lasted about a week as a math teacher if I was not capable of teaching and personally showing my students how to solve linear and quadratic equations, simplfy algebraic, exponential, rational expressions, polynomials, inequalites, factor, etc. And then assign that to a 15 year old student to cover up my mistakes and incompetence.
You are really a piece of work. With that attitude, the students and teachers I worked with, 20 to 35 years ago, would have made sure you were past history, duly dismissed and never seen again.
Rescooter.
The youngsters in the OL are just that. Young and totally unproven. They may be good BT players in 2009 but 2008 will be a learning experience. I too am concerned about the OL this coming season and consider it a below average BT line. Alford, Burris are likely the best of the bunch but they have a long ways to being equal to Setterstrom/ Eslinger type players. Same with the DL as WVD is the only player who has shown he is/was BT caliber.
What the Gophers need is better players with experience and more of them. Across the board. This will take time. Leaders are the least of my concern right now. I want a QB who can keep mistakes to a minimum, make good decisions and run the game plan. If he does that, he will likely be a good leader by example as well as his personality.
So Bayfield, you think high school teaching is about spelling? Top priority is spelling? In a history class? That is what is most important about the Greeks, their spelling? The Declaration of Independence is about spelling? Really?
How about penmanship? Is that a higher or lower priority than spelling?
By the way Bayfield, what are the four really great ideas in the Declaration? “All men are created equal spellers”? And are the other ideas important because they are spelled right or because they require some actual thinking?
High school kids need to be exposed to thinking a lot more than they need me to be a better speller. And with my little clerk to keep an idea on me, we did OK on spelling too.
As Andrew Jackson said: “It is a mighty poor mind that can only spell a word one way.”
By the way Bayfield, what are really angry about? Another throw away season?
Looney Toons, I’m sorry, but spelling, like grammar and punctuation, is a BASIC skill I would expect ANY teacher (even phy-ed teachers) to have. If you can’t spell, you look like a moron. Like you do on this board. I never encountered a teacher in my own educational experience, or that of my children, that had a problem with spelling. d_a(sp)_c is right. You are a total fraud.
No Loon. Teaching is all about preparation and yes; setting good examples, being good role models for your students and doing the best job possible in preparing them for the future. A teacher that doesn/t expect his/her student to spell correctly, is failing their students.
Spelling is important and to deny that is being very short-sighted and ignorant. In the past,I have put many job applications in the bottom of the pile due to poor spelling. A person that does not take the time to use the dictionary or, in todays world, spell check, with important documents is someone who will take short-cuts down the road.
BTW, I do not look at 2007 as a throw-a-way season, rather a season of preparation. Same with 2008. Of course that is very difficult concept for a negative thinker.
I think the only angry people are you and Wren.
NYC Gopher Fan says:
March 29th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
And also Recruiting, why would I be looking in Minneapolis? I live in Manhattan. So what are you doing on a Minneapolis gay cruise site?
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Sorry loser, i could care a less where the dumpster you live in is located. Also, as an FYI, after the snow melts, you won’t see me here an a Sat night with the rest of the shut-ins. Just because you posted something when you were drunk, you don’t have to try to blame it on me when you sober up!
PS:
Bayfield, if you are so friggin smart, why would you retire to Pissconsin?
psy·cho·path (sī’kə-pāth’)
n. A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse.
Hmm, who does that sound like?
Also here people eat dinner around 8pm and don’t go out until after midnight on a Saturday night, but how would you know you’ve never left your trailer on Central Avenue in Anoka County
NYC Gopher Fan says:
March 30th, 2008 at 8:24 am
psy·cho·path (sī’kə-pāth’)
n. A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse.
Hmm, who does that sound like?
Also here people eat dinner around 8pm and don’t go out until after midnight on a Saturday night, but how would you know you’ve never left your trailer on Central Avenue in Anoka County
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Criminal? I’m not the one getting plugged in the public restroom of some NYC subway station….after midnight of course.
NYC Gopher Fan says:
March 29th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
My profile:
http://www.connexion.org/viewprofile.cfm?id=284636
Lets hook up for some gopher games guys
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Is it true, phagboy, do blondes really have more fun? ROTFLMMFAO!
Again, proving my point of you have no moral code of ethics. Two things: A. I’m not blonde and secondly, there are no public restrooms in the subways.
And you don’t seem to have the ability to laugh at anything, you’re too pathetic. Your parent’s should be plenty proud of raising someone who is incapable of any sort of morality. You are the worst of what a human being can become.
I always expected myself and my students to spell correctly. All errors were corrected, even mine.
However, be that as it may, I will stick with my view that critical, objective thinking was my main job. If you guys need a way to deflect discussions away from the two 500 pound monkies in the room (our coach and AD) and what you have done to our football program, that is up to you.
I will continue to point out how ineffective our football team has become. Thanks to you.
Loon: Your assessment is premature. You could be correct, but for now we do not know that.
NYC Gopher Fan says:
March 30th, 2008 at 9:35 am
And you don’t seem to have the ability to laugh at anything, you’re too pathetic. Your parent’s should be plenty proud of raising someone who is incapable of any sort of morality. You are the worst of what a human being can become.
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I am immoral because i am oppossed to ass-pounders and punky brewster pretending to be a head football coach? So you say….that [your contentions] and $5 will get you a latte at Starbucks.
The Loon says:
March 30th, 2008 at 9:49 am
I always expected myself and my students to spell correctly. All errors were corrected, even mine.
However, be that as it may, I will stick with my view that critical, objective thinking was my main job. If you guys need a way to deflect discussions away from the two 500 pound monkies in the room (our coach and AD) and what you have done to our football program, that is up to you.
I will continue to point out how ineffective our football team has become. Thanks to you.
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How “immoral” and “criminal!”
NYC.
Loon knows it all and has the correct answer to every question. Even before its asked!! And a sour, beat everthing down attitude to boot.
Recruiting says:
March 30th, 2008 at 9:58 am
I am immoral because i am oppossed to ass-pounders and punky brewster pretending to be a head football coach?
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Bingo psycho-boy.
Bayfield, I did not beat this program down to its current level. You did that. Eight Big Ten losses in a row, and counting.
NYC Gopher Fan says:
March 30th, 2008 at 10:19 am
Recruiting says:
March 30th, 2008 at 9:58 am
I am immoral because i am oppossed to ass-pounders and punky brewster pretending to be a head football coach?
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Bingo psycho-boy.
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Bingo phagboy, this just shows how entitled you little RumpHumpers think you are…..
Your ignorance is showing psycho-boy
you’re just pissed off because the last time you were incarcerated no matter how many times you dropped the soap you couldn’t get laid
If I am reading Willies comments correctly, it sounds like coach Roof is going to run a similar type defense as the Gophers ran back in 1997 thru 2000. When we had L. Williams, K. Rielly and B. Mezzera. We played with a true nose, 3T, and a 5T. This could be good because we will probably have S. Davis back at the open end side where he can rush the passer and not have to play in space. At least this DC can look at our players and get them into postions where they can make plays and play to their strenghts. This is a good start.
Save me, Danny Sellers!
Sincerely,
The Second Lieutenant
Can’t wait for the opener.
Mase was a jerk
Looney Toons: m-o-n-k-e-y-s
The joke continues………..
Yep me and my buddy Mason basically decimated the program and left it for dead. Brewster inherited a team with very little depth, severe lack of skilled players, filled in with walk-ons and players that he recruited away from MAC type teams, and a 3 or 4 year stretch when the defection rate ran 50%. And then the vaunted Ohio Connection turned out to be a bunch of thugs. We would have been extremely lucky to have won 3 games together in 2007 with the old system, a rookie QB, and a horrible D. How did that Brewster guy recruit so many highly though of players to a place like Minnesota that is such a difficult place to win with the cold weather,piss poor location and drunk students and all. Must have cheated.
NYC Gopher Fan says:
March 30th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
you’re just pissed off because the last time you were incarcerated no matter how many times you dropped the soap you couldn’t get laid
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Sorry, phagboy, but a normal man does not consider
NYC Gopher Fan says:
March 30th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
you’re just pissed off because the last time you were incarcerated no matter how many times you dropped the soap you couldn’t get laid
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Sorry, phagboy, but a normal man does not consider getting corked in the ass by another guy “getting laid.”
So you’re confirming it psycho-dog. Can’t get sex in jail or out. ROTFLMFAO
Geez, take your meds, boys. It’s spring football, not life & death.
Those of you barking at Brewster for the “systems” are howling at the wrong tree - he was HIRED to do exactly what he’s trying to do re: offensive & defensive systems.
The 2007 defense was pathetic, no doubt.
So was the 2006 defense.
In fact, defense has been an issue at the U for YEARS - - - how many times did a Mason team cough up a big lead in the 2nd half? How many times did a Mason team cough up a two-score lead in the last 5 minutes?
Let’s see … I recall having Michigan down big & losing … having Purdue down two-scores with, what, 3 minutes left & losing … having Texas Tech down, what, 28? or was it 30+? in the first half & losing. C’mon, you guys are the experts … how many times was it?
The U was faced with a choice: keep Mason, in which case games like the Texas Tech bowl game & mediocrity would be the norm, or try to get better.
Getting better meant getting someone as coach who’d have a chance to recruit the type of athletes Minnesota needs to compete in the upper division of the Big Ten. MASON COULD NOT DO THAT.
Maturi decided to try to be good.
You install the spread because its the system that’s going to draw the best offensive players. You put it in when you walk in the door because you’re going to be recruiting the kids you want to come to the U next year (and the years after that) at the same time that you’re trying to get the kids already here ready to play. And you do it even though the kids already here aren’t particularly suited to it.
That’s what Urban Meyer did when he walked in the door at Florida, even though that year #1 Gator team had neither a “spread” QB in Chris Leak nor sufficient wide receivers to make the system go. Year #1 the offense was a struggle (people trying to figure out what they were doing, for one thing, and not having the weapons the system required, for another); Year #2 was better - but the offense really didn’t start clicking until the SEC Championship game; and then, in Year #3, the offense is good enough for the sophomore 1st time starting QB to win the Heisman.
What happened? Urban Meyer used what he had as efficiently as possible & recruited the heck out of the athletes he needed for the Gators to get better on offense. Which he couldn’t do if his team wasn’t playing the offense he was recruiting kids for.
Brewster & company didn’t “let down” a 7 or 8 win team last year; given the personnel losses on defense, Mason could easily have gone 1-7 or even 0-8 in the Big Ten last year.
While Brewster & staff are far from a “success” thus far, the hyperbolic condemnation is way over the top.
NYC Gopher Fan says:
March 30th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
So you’re confirming it psycho-dog. Can’t get sex in jail or out. ROTFLMFAO
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You didn’t define sex, phagboy, you defined perversion and sodomy, and no, I can’t get that inside or out!!
ohhhhh man laying with a man bible says its wrong.. shit guys, jesus says its highly condemned very highly condemned. pluck out your eye if it leads you to sin..they will be done they kingdom come
these are the last days
very few willl make it at this time
well prove yourself!
well whos barred?
jones stays out, johnson and linn fight it out
how about the marine?!
ohhhh kelly is dicks boy so he gets a job. hah hah hah..kelly is young guy he has to prove himself
iiiiii tryyyy to warn you…….their nuts aint they
Psycho-dog: you can’t get laid to save your life basically because you can’t even define sex…asswipe ROTFLMFAO
Psycho-dog: I was going to say why don’t you go someplace where you’re wanted, but that place doesn’t exist. I’m sure you don’t have a friend in the world and any blog with parameters has you blocked. LMFAO
free pop
i aint walkin i’m a union man!
Liggettes going like a mad man..hes nuts aint he
well whos tom??
hes got a good little girl but the wolves are after her
temptation
she wont do it, shes a good little girl. it bonds them together it connects them to one another
tolla was right.
Burma road–dizzabilty zero Patton’s 5th
bd: brewster ball is 1-11 and 0-8 in Big Ten play. Will it EVER be any more than that? Maybe. Maybe not. His problem is the fact that at the U of M there is a 3 to 5 year window of time. He screwed up SO badly when he went )-* in the Big Ten in 2007. No elderly prexy is going to last long enough to buy brewster much more than 3-5 years to put something together. Since brewster threw away his first season, he most likely has 2 to 4 years at most. He has had two recruiting classes and they had better be doing bottom line things in terms of getting Big Ten wins…or…why should anyone think brewster can recruit his way out of an 0 for 8 kind of situation in the Big Ten?
This little brewster dude has got to show that he can win a lot of Big Ten games and he is so far in the hole right now it is NOT looking good. His systems stink for the players he has. THAT is going to put him on his nose in this Big Ten Coaching thing he is trying to pull off. Shakey…entirely too shakey looking there on the sidelines in Big Ten games. This guy has to realize that time is of the essence. It is now or never time for brewster. He needs a LOT of Big Ten wins and he needs them NOW!
All coaches at Minnesota have smacked for well over half a century. That is a fact. Brewster looks to be among the worst of them at this point in time. He needs Big Ten wins!
common guy play the game. in or out?
now your talkin eye! none of these turkeys have made it and they can’t be saved. their cacklin like a bunch of turkeys and big bad tim brewster is going to the rose bowl. shit guy, hes nuts anint he?
natural born turkey
E-Z Top his shit is highly condemned
Well how about the marine
you aint no seargeant
i tried to warn u turkey
sing you sad sad songs
when are we going to berlin mein furher
studwell, is your name nyc? The gh dirty tricks dudes and dudettes are up to their E-Z boxes in b.s. It appears some of them are growing uneasy…
Wren,
I really do think Brewster has the same sense of urgency to win this year as you do. I think Brewster knows he needs to win.
Listen, I know you were dissappointed that we didn’t go to a mediocre bowl last year, but if Brewster wins a Big Ten title in his first five years, that 1-11 season will be forgotten.
I do think this year Brewster will led the Gophers to 6 to 8 wins. I know the Masonites are hoping for another 1-11 season so they could tell eveyone how right they are. I think Brewster will suprise people this year. If Brewster goes 1-11 again, I’ll say the Masonites were right, but right now I think this year our team will take a big step forward.
So, Bayfield, you think my talk about brewster is based in anger. How foolish of you. I am just calling it like I see it. I watched the 2007 season, you know.
Every coach the Gophers have had for the past sixty or so years has either been fired…one of them fired the University of Minnesota to go to South Bend. Brewster appears to be the worst of the coaches we have had at the U of M in my lifetime. 0-8 in the Big Ten says it all.
You know, it really wouldn’t have mattered what kind of players the former coach would have left…because brewster was going to trash it all any way. So, you get zero points as far as I am concerned with your sad excuse making for brewster. brewsterball flat-out sucked in 2007.
You can try to blame Weber all you want…I think Weber is the basic reason why brewster SHOULD beat iowa, NU and Indiana in the dome in 2008. Weber will be the whole shooting match on Game Day Saturdays against other Big Ten teams. He reminds me of Drew Stanton from MSU. I hope to hell that dunbar’s dinky…dunky…cutsey little offense doesn’t get Weber hurt so badly that he can’t compete in 2008…because IF that happens if you think 2007 was bad…208 will rival it. With a healthy Weber…I would say that there is a pretty good chance for 3 Big Ten wins. Without him…I don’t even know if one or two Big Ten wins would be possible.
You are sounding pretty darn angry for a person calling other people angry Bayfield. What’s with that?
At any rate: anything less than 7 wins in 2008 can not be acceptable if your boy brewster is going to have a leg to stand on.
I want Big Ten wins. NO stinking coach during the past almost 40 years has done that…and Murray and Bernie Bierman got fired and run off because they couldn’t get enough Big Ten wins in the end.
How the heck can you think this brewster character ie EVER going to get enough Big Ten wins to make any kind of difference? Remember: he is 0-8 as I type this. He opens up at Columbus in 2008….
goldohfour: Stinking Bireman got forced out. Stinking Warmath got forced out…fired. Stinking Stoll got canned. Stinking Salem…Stinking hoax…stinking Gutey…stinking Wacker…stinking Mason all got their butts fired at the University of Minnesota. Why? They could NOT win enough Big Ten Fotball games to satisfy the media and the boosters and they people who want to buy influence.
I give brewster about a one in a million …make that a one in a billion chance of winning enough big Ten Football games to cut it. He has dug too deep a hole with his first throw away season. Even if he wins the 3 Big Ten games that I am expecting him to win…his Big Ten record would be a miserable 3-13. That smacks, man. That is a disgrace. Unfortunately for brewster…Big Ten wins is the total measuring stick. He just is not measuring up.
Notice how as each month goes by the assesment on how many games “Mason would have won” goes down by about one.
By the time we get to actual football games in the fall, it will be pure Bible that Brewster actually won more games than “Mason would have”. (You may still recall that Brewster actually won zero Big Ten games last year.0
The Strib should run a counter on the front page showing the number of days since we last won a BT football game. We would be getting close to 500 by now.
NYC Gopher Fan says:
March 30th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Psycho-dog: you can’t get laid to save your life basically because you can’t even define sex…asswipe ROTFLMFAO
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Dear PhagBoy,
Many state have passed constitutional amendments defining [it] as THE UNION BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN. Many more will do so in the future. 80% of registered voters surveyed, also see it that way. Your chosen lifestyle is still a joke to mainsteam America, no matter how much ranting and raving your little paid mouthpieces do–no pun intended. Accept this and move on.
Especially Massachusetts, New Jersey, Vermont, Connecticut and soon California. Washington and Oregon have also equalled the rights as well. New York, if legislation goes to the govenor’s desk will sign marriage into law. See a connection between states with the highest educational rates and equality? Also the lowest states when it comes to education and the marriage ban?
Wake up psycho-dog. Why don’t you move to one of the stupid states, you’d fit right in.
This is a football blog, let’s keep it to that subject, otherwise your psychopath personality rears it’s ugly head.
So what if Mason would have been the coach and 07 and won 3 or 4 games! Whoopee! That’s good enough for you Loon but myself and 99% of the Gopher fans want more than what Mason brought us in 10 years. You were willing to give him a decade and more for that great accomplishment.
Grad rates low, 50% defections, 3 BT wins a year, beating whimpy teams to get to Forget-Me-Not bowls, trying to out-recruit MAC teams, one decent D in 10 years, blowing huge leads, blah-blah-blah.
I am in Bruinink’s camp and have set the bar higher. Too bad you don’t have the backbone to join in. Rather you choose to whine and cry like a youngster about 2007 and your man Mason out of here.
BTW, did I forget to mention that your man Mason won ONE BT game his first year? (You won’t let us forget about Coach Brewsters record so I will return the favor.)
I will say it again, I will give Brewster, or whoever the Gopher coach, 5 years. And I gave Mason 7. I must be getting impatient. Same with Bruininks. Probably something to do with getting monthly SS checks.
WTF is Danny Sellers? Next President of the University of minnysooooDUH? Coach Goofster’s spiritual advisor? LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
What is with all the chatter here about the shitsquirters? Has your football program dropped so low who have nothing better to blog about? Don’t answer that, I already know. LMFAOOOOOO!
I don’t have the backbone to ignore what I see and not say anything? If that is what you call back bone, I call it stupidity, ignoring the FACTS and going down the tubes in a daze. Numb yourself to the facts bayfield. I won’t and can not do that any longer. I have been guilty of that … but, no more.
EVERY coach at the University of Minneesota in my lifetime and your lifetime has been a miserable failure to the ” I want more people.” Want more all you want…but you are not going to get it. THAT is one of the facts of life Bayfield. I’d say you don’t have the backbone to face the truth, since you are questioning my backbone.
Your boys prexy b, mac-turi and this brewster used car salesman just talk…talk…and talk some more. Then they go 0-8.
EVERY coach at the University of Minensota in the football program has been a loser and got fired according to your standards Bayfield. hoax would have eventually been fired because he stinking cheated. So, he fired the University of Minnesota before they could eventually fire him when the facts caught up with him AND the University of Minnesota was left alone to deal with the NCAA.
To be competetive is looked down at by you and your ilk and breed of fans/boosters Bayfield. But, the bottom line is the BEST the Minnesota’s, the iowa’s, the wisky’s, the illinois’s, the Purdues, the NU’s, the indy’s and the MSU’s of the Big Ten world can EVER hope for is to be competetive and once in a while have luck on their side to tie for a championship so they can go to the Rosebowl.
When the hell was the graduation rate at the U of M in the football program EVER higher than it currently is? Is it good enough? Of course not. It currently stinks. It NEVER has been good enough. You don’t recall the days back when there was pretty much unlimited squad size…back in the days when frehman were not elegilbe to play….back in the days they started out with huge squads and then wore them out, ran them off and flunked them out and nobody even cared? When they had boosters providing high paying jobs for the athletes and the athletes didn’t have to even show up for work? When the boosters had slush fund (as if they don’t now?)During the gambling and betting scandals. You know…they way college sports pretty much has ever since day one.
Stick your head in the sand Bayfield. I’m not doing it any longer. I have been incredibly guilty of being a “blindly loyal” fan virtually all of my days on this planet. But, after having battled all of the mobbers, bashers, trashers and negativity dudes and dudettes for over half a century…I am just plain going to see what my eyes tell me. I will not listen to the hype…the b.s., the “prosperity is just around the corner”, the softer, easier way, the people who say you can recruit just as well to Minnesota as you can to Florida, FSU, USC, Michigan, PSU, Ohio State or many other places. The truth of the matter is you can NOT do that. NO ONE can do that. History has shown us that.
The best you can do is to get the best you can get honestly, emphasize athletes who have a CHANCE to succeed academically (I know all of you do NOT like to hear that…but this still IS supposed to be a place where student athletes attend classes, succeed by making honest passing grades and advance in their chosen degree granting programs REGARDLESS of race, creed or anything else that makes human beings human. Without that element: shut college athletics down! Then get a coach who can coach the players up. Get a coach who wants to WIN every game and even if he/she can’t do that to be COMPETETIVE and COMPETE with Purdue, Illinois, MSU, iowa, wisky, NU, Indy every year and Michigna, Ohio State and PSU once in a while. THAT is historically as good as it EVER gets in the Big Ten. THAT is how it always has been in the Big Ten. THAT is how it always will be in the Big Ten…unless the program does as your ilk has wanted and is basing all the hopes and the hype on some glib-balking used car salesman’s approach to selling the hucksters on the idea that this time…somehow…there is an easier, more fun, softer way to get to the top of the conference year in and year out and stay there. In other words…to flat out lie.
Ignore what your eyes see, Bayfield. I can’t do it any longer. I am just going to tell prexy b that he was lucky to get the little stadium deal done with the help of the most hated coach in the University of Minnesota history…Mason. And all of you people who think this brewster character is going to even come close to matching the insignificant number of Big Ten wins that Mason achieved are totally out to lunch.
Look at the history of this situation. Look at the decades of results that tell us it is hard as hell to dominate in football at the University of Minneosta. In fact, it has been hard as hell to win consistantly at the University of Minnesota during the past half century. Does’t that tell you something? Why don’t France, or Norway, or Brazil or Japan reign as the dominant world powers? In the Big Ten all most schools can hope for is to contend every now and then. To be in 4th place or 7th place…tell me how one is that much better than the other? Both places are somewhat competetive. Both places are better than being dead last. Some wins will ALWAYS be better than no wins.
I long for the days of being at least somewhat competetive….going to the crappy bowls…at least thinking that on a given Saturday, my Gophers might go into the Horseshoe and beat the Buckeyes…or at least go into NU and beat Northwestern…
What I saw in 2007 was total chaos, horrible coaching and a student section that was always gone for the most part by the third quarter’s end. I heard a lot of b.s. coming from the coaches and from the boosters.
The best brewster will ever achieve during his 3 to 5 year stay is to maybe almost stay SOMEWHERE near what Mason did. And Mason STUNK and was fired for not winning enough Big Ten Football Games.
Let’s hurry through this incredibly shakey and horribly expensive brewster experiemnt, have prexy b retire, also retire mac-turi and get on with finding the new football coach. Paying for a rookie football coach and buying out a former football coach during the next few years is bankrupting the athletic department’s budget. And what has it gotten us? 0-8 in the Big Ten…and counting.
prexy b says he is abhored and doesn’t understand the “arms race” as it applies to coaches salaries? You are damn right he doesn’t understand any of it. He paid a basketball coach more than twice as much as his football coach…or at least on paper. He would have been ok if he was only paying one football coach at a time. but the fool is in essence paying both Mason and brewster at the SAME time. Therefore, to get 0 Big Ten wins in 2007, prexy b was spending an incredibly amount of money on “head coach” salary. Ask not what the cause of expanding football coaches pay packages prexy b…just take a good look at what YOU have done to fire off another round of inflation in the whole cycle…Brilliant prexy b…just brilliant.
Hey browneyeinthesky. I braced your boy studwell in Kinnick last Nov. See, it does not pay to post your photo over on gloryhole.com. Anyway, he pissed his pants right there in the tunnel!! LMAO! Ask him about it.
[But, the bottom line is the BEST the Minnesota’s, the iowa’s, the wisky’s, the illinois’s, the Purdues, the NU’s, the indy’s and the MSU’s of the Big Ten world can EVER hope for is to be competetive and once in a while have luck on their side to tie for a championship so they can go to the Rosebowl.]
Please don’t lump Iowa in with that pathetic POS you call a “football program.” In case it has been lost upon you, Iowa has won two of the last six Big 10 football championships?! I guarantee victory in the dump this Nov for 7 of 8 against you, riff-raff. As in 2002, 2004 and 2006, I will proudly be wearing my Iowa jersey with Pantherhawk stenciled across the back. Could this be the year some minnersoootin has the stones to do more than stare???? LMFAO!
eyeinthesky….condense.
Jeff says:
March 31st, 2008 at 8:53 am
eyeinthesky….condense.
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Hilarious! I hope you didn’t waste 10 minutes of your life reading that post. It amazes me and scares me at the same time that his posts get longer and longer. I don’t know if he put our 2007 record in there, but I need to be reminded of it from time to time.
This statement should tell you all you need to know about goofer football:
“Another key witness will be Jones’ former teammate Robert McField, who is in prison in Missouri for armed robbery.”
Extra! Extra! Read all about it: trial starts for goofer filth today:
–I will proudly be wearing my Iowa jersey with Pantherhawk stenciled across the back. Could this be the year some minnersoootin has the stones to do more than stare???? LMFAO!–
Well, now we’ll be able to pick you out in a crowd from all the other Iowa fatties. Will your girlfriend be the one with two, three, or four chins?
mnmike: Actually, Pantherhawk’s girlfriend will be the one with the curly tail.
Chip has to ask his boss for more storage to contain eye’s rambling rants.
To eye’s family:
Please get him back on his meds.
To jimbo in ne: Why would you worry about what I write? You certainly don’t worry about me. You can write you silly little one sentence things if you wish. I’ll write what I write, thank you.
Keep not reading what I write jimbo…it is not intended for you.
You gopher hole people….try to be such little controllers. You aren’t any good at it though.
Is that studwell doing the nyc bit?
As we have said before, the key is to go to games at OSU, PSU, Michigan, etc. Once you see those places and the game day that comes with them, you come to realise how the head coach can not do it all himself.
Give me a coach who can win at those places without the support of even 10,000 serious fans and we can continue to build what we have to legally offer here.
But, I fear that hope is now gone. Mason got us the new stadium and put us on the map of college football. Our next coach will have to try to take the next step, because we are back at the bottom again. In spades.
eye, I have only posted on Gopher Hole one time, and that was to smart off to Ruppert. Otherwise, I think there are way too many kool-aid drinkers over there. I rarely even visit the site.
On the other hand, I like this forum because it DOES allow diverse opinions. Even though I think you and Looney Toons are royal pains, I’m glad you have a forum to air your opinions.
Yes, diverse opinions and contrasts are indeed necessary. That is why I have moved from being an extreme critic of the STRIB and some of the writers such as Reusse to being appreciative of the fact that the STRIB does strive to be a place where opinions and contrasts can be expressed without a few of the cast-away island dwellers voting anyone who does not agree with their Official” opinion…off the island. Cudos to Chip and the STRIB for being a place where opinions can be expressed honestly and openly.
I’m not a club member and thats’ just fine. It is also fine that there are club members. It is even better to have a forum where all can express their views. Let the chips fall where they may. Let the words speak for themselves. Let the various interpretations be expressed…and in the end what is true will be true and the rest will become merely words and opinions that helped discuss actions, events and situations.
“I’d like to see how the rest of the team progressed over the winter. OneOldeGopher Guy has been lamenting few Offensive line recruits. I’m counting 4 O-Line redshirted Freshman that are quite highly regarded (Wynn, Davis, Bunders and Orton). Also, we have Nick Weber (CC transfer) and we’ll have Matt Carufel next year. At this point, I think that opinion is unfounded.
Well, they are well regarded in the Midwest, but not nationally. They are an inexperienced, marginally explosive group. That puts them in the bottom 3rd of the B10 as far as power and ability to move the d-line out of the way. It could be a long year watching the line. I don’t understand the hype around these redshirts. They haven’t even suited up for a down of real play and people are talking them up. Let’s see if they are as good as some have billed them. Brewster needed to recruit for the line last year. Major failure not to do that. I am relieved that he has put it as his top priority for this recruiting season.
As for the contributors to this blog, can we keep it clean and not reference all the trash. This isn’t your kitchen conversation. It is a public place. Please use your manners.
The mantra at GH is kneel and kiss punky’s ass before entering and kneel and kiss punky’s ass before leaving or yee shall be forever banned.
Good Morning, Recruiting
OneOldGopher says:
March 31st, 2008 at 10:30 am
Good Morning, Recruiting
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Good morning kind sir! Thanks for the reminder to the perverts and sodomites who lurk here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
eye, I agree with your last post. At the end of the day, it really won’t matter what the posters here write.
Good morning, Jimbo.
What are your opinions on the strength of the O or D lines?
Psycho-dog: Too bad you didn’t make it thru the eighth grade. You’re so frickin’ stupid and backward. Don’t enter into a conversation you can’t/won’t win.
OOG:
Thanks for asking.
Not having seen a lot of the players who will likely be starting, it’s hard to say. Unfortunately, because of lack of experience, it’s looking like line play could be a weak area again this year.
Of course, I hope I’m wrong.
NYC, in a pissing contest both parties end up smelling like urine. Even though Crude Boy’s comments are personally insulting to you, and offensive to all reasonable people, your best tactic would be to ignore him.
NYC Gopher Fan says:
March 31st, 2008 at 10:52 am
Psycho-dog: Too bad you didn’t make it thru the eighth grade. You’re so frickin’ stupid and backward. Don’t enter into a conversation you can’t/won’t win.
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Bending over and spreading my cheeks wide in the sincere hope that the Oracle of NYC will educate, enlighten and grace me with same wisdom he has picked up in back alleys and bath houses across the nation!!!!!!!!!! Oh boy, oh boy, I’m going to be progressive!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jimbo says:
March 31st, 2008 at 11:05 am
NYC, in a pissing contest both parties end up smelling like urine. Even though Crude Boy’s comments are personally insulting to you, and offensive to all reasonable people, your best tactic would be to ignore him.
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“All reasonable people?” You don’t get out among the people much, do you jimblo?
Oops! I meant to say ignore him/her/it.
Okay. My early season prediction, which last year I was 8 or 9 games off the mark, 3 wins. Hope I am way off the mark.
Hey Jimbo: I’ve tried to ignore stupidity. And after reading his reaction to d_a_c’s illness and telling him to drop dead, I find it funny that he thinks he’s taking some pseudo-moral high ground.
I know his anger/hatred has him by the balls, but a person can only take so much abuse. I apologize for sinking to his level. There’s no reward in being that angry. It’s not my style. So I will rise above him (and trust me, the bar ain’t up that high).
Recruiting: I wish you wellness because you are the most f*cked up person I’ve encountered in a long long time.
I also hope you’re off the mark, OOG. I’m hoping for 5-6 wins myself. I actually think we can win either 3 or all on the NC games, and 2 Big Ten games.
I phrased that wrong. I’m HOPING for 12 wins, but am EXPECTING 5-6 wins.
Jimbo - Could you please repeat what you think our record will be in 2008?
We NEED to know BIG TEN wins.
I think we’ll WIN 6 games including 3 BIG ten WINS. So let me reiterate: We will BE 6-6 and the gm/recruiter will be a HERO!
Winning 6 games would NOT elevate the gm/recruiter to hero status. In fact, he would be underachieving in my opinion based upon that EASY schedule that he will be playing in 2008. Winning 7 games would put him at a neutral rating of at least winning the games he had darn well better win. To hit hero status, he would need to go 10-2 in 2008 and repeat it in 2009. Your standards and expectations are set too low.
Scooter, I’m thinking 3-4 NC wins, 2-3 Big Ten wins. I’m going with eye a bit on this: 6 wins does not a “hero” make. 5-6 wins is reasonable to good progress. 5-6 wins will keep his head off the chopping block. 4 or less wins will cause many more people to join the anti-Brewster bandwagon.
I will go on to say that with 8 or more wins, Timmy’s a “hero” in my eyes!
4 or less wins will cause many more people to join the anti-Brewster bandwagon.
-Myself included.
Actually, I was mocking eye. If I would have had the time, I would have written a novel blaming Brewster for 9/11, the stock market, and the Brad Pitt/Jennifer Aniston break-up.
In 2008 our record will be 6-6 overall and 3-5 in the big 10.
More predictions: eye will be admitted to Hazeldon, Loon will go back to corrupting the minds of our youth, and Recruiting will be hanging out on the streets of Amsterdam. Count on it.
Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston broke up? Does this mean she’s available?
Sorry, Scooter, I’m a little slow today.
Hasn’t Looney Toons done enough damage already?
And I’m thinking the state hospital in St. Peter for eye.
Hopefully Crude Boy will be beamed back to the mother ship.
You knock me for writing long posts about the football program’s history and current problems.
and you two flff and fluff your way with fliffy and fluffy little bits and pieces of nothing.
Personally I’ll keep going for volumn and it will of course help to keep the two of you and the various gopher hole pranksters with their E-Z boxes crammed full of silly little insider jokes and drunk-a-logues. You know…all the studwells…leakers…and rescooters of that inbred little clustering place for the keeping of the officially accepted company line.
fliff and fluff: you can have it!
With this cakewalk schedule, I see punky being carried off the field on the players’s shoulders no fewer than 9 times in 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would imagine Psycho-dog is in Stillwater
No, eye, we knock you for rambling on and on, saying the same thing over and over.
Drunk-a-logues? Scooter, are you drunk? I’m guessing not, and I’m not either. Eye, are you drunk?
And what the hell is fliff and fluff????
jimbo: you continue to write the book on filff and fluff and other examples of nothingness, name calling and generally being a classless serial poster. You know…your standard fliff and fluff. Your friends rescooter, d_a_c, nyc et al all write the fliff and live the fluff and wallow in classic internet-speak for people of your ilk. Fliffers and fluffers are in general full of fliff and fluff. Some may call it other names and some may contend that it tries to be politically correct. Yet, when you start the name-calling and trying to discredit other people it becomes totally classless fliffy-fluff. In general it is usually displayed by people who think their crap smells better than other people’s crap. Sometimes it is a symptom of poor parenting. Sometimes it is just what it sounds like…fliff and fluff. It is always a real drag though…
Yikes. You really need to be medicated, Buddy!
So, eye, do you and Looney Toons sit together at the football games?
As do you jimbo…as do you.
jimbo, do you do the football games?
NYC Gopher Fan says:
March 31st, 2008 at 12:56 pm
I would imagine Psycho-dog is in Stillwater
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See phagboy, I knew you wouldn’t have the disipline to leave me alone!!!
By the way jimbo, I don’t know anyone named “Looney Toons…” I’m sure you have never gotten past the Elmer Fudd and Buggs Bunny stage, but, I am sorry. I don’t know anyone named anything like the names you throw around and call people. Sorry little dude or dudette, which ever the case may be. Do you mean Warner Brothers?
Of course I do! I sit on NYC’s lap and bounce all game long! Boy do i love OT!!
If you’re asking do i attend the football games, I have missed but one home game since 1988. Nor have I missed a Gopher football game in Iowa or Wisconsin since 1996. I have also attended Gopher games at all Big Ten stadia except Penn State and Michigan.
And I arrive on time and remain to the end of every game. I cheer my heart out for the Gophers at every game, and do not judge the other people in the stadium.
And I think our band is the coolest band in college football!
Any other questions.?
Yawn
Hey there studwell…errrr…nyc….errrrr jimbo. That is jimbo’s signature one word response!
Open a little wider, babe! 
The Big House was a great place to watch a game
Getting to a game at Michigan is on my list of things to do.
Now that you mention it, eye, Looney Toons and Elmer Fudd have a lot in common!
And brewster was 1-11 and 0-8 in Big Ten play. Will he EVER win a Big Ten game?
Thanks for the reminder, eye! I had forgotten!
Hey Jimbo: my brother and I stayed at the Westin in the Detroit Airport. And it was s pretty cheap price and you go thru airpot security when you leave the hotel. Ann Arbor was about an hour west of there. Getting tickets was the difficult/expensive part.
The Gophers don’t play in Michigan again until 2011. It’s highly unlikely I’d go to any other game in Ann Arbor. Thanks for the tip, though!
So which one of you Gopher boosters is paying for Earl Gray to represent Dom Jones?
I love Brewster!
Brewster is a great recruiter!
I love Brewster’s vision!
This is the first time I have read these comments in months and I must say I’m not shocked in the least to seen Wren and Loon still being ridiculous.
I wish there were blogs and message boards in the Wacker years. Then we would know how much of your old “I ALWAYS support the coach and team” talk was accurate. Because it clearly isn’t the case anymore! So what was it guys? Did you “support” Wacker, the team, his schemes, the geezo-beezo attitude and all that? Or did you start to “always” support the coach and team only when loverboy Mason came along? You ditched that attitude pretty quickly.
Judging by their latest comments they seem to have changed their tune!
BigBeak says:
March 31st, 2008 at 4:02 pm
So which one of you Gopher boosters is paying for Earl Gray to represent Dom Jones?
I don’t think he is getting any cash from anyone, but I can tell you I have one sore bunghole and tennis jaw you won’t believe.
kitna, i want to have your baby!
I’m pretty cool but let’s not get carried away NYC
Do you have big fingers?!!!!!!
Sour1729,
1. I have known Wren for what must be going on 13 or 14 years. He was always very supportive of Jim Wacker.
2. I have not known Loon for quite as long, but I don’t ever remember him having anything negative to say about Jim Wacker. He has always been fiercely patriotic about the University of Minnesota and especially regarding Golden Gopher Football.
3. I think we all wanted (and still want) better financial support and political support from Morrill Hall.
4. As I have stated in one of my dissertations in GopherHole two or three years ago, Minnesota started a tradition of firing good coaches with Doc Williams in the 1920s. Then we fired the great Bernie Bierman. They we fired Murray Warmath. I was there as a stupid freshman chanting along with the other students to fire Murray. Murray did not deserve to be fired, but I was a 17 year old idiot. Some of you will say I still am. That’s OK, you are entitled to your opinion. I always feel that we as fans are being punished by God to this day for unfairly running Murray out of his job. Once I got older and understood what wonderful things Murray did breaking the color barrier, I came to really respect him, if not revere him. He is a great man. Murray was followed by a very competent Cal Stoll. If Cal were coaching Michigan or OSU, he would have had National Champions. He was an excellent coach. Well, we fired him. That is what we do best at the University of Minnesota.
Winona Phantom we salute you!
Michigan - 0
Minnesota - 22
24 Oct 1953
SKI-U-MAH!
Is eyeinthesky the Winona Phantom?
6 November, 1999: Great to see you over here! Of course some of the yahoos over at Gopher Hole will probably give you grief for acknowleging that we have been Gopher fans for a long time. I was fortunate enough to have seen two of the three greatest Gopher wins of the past three decades sitting right next to you and your family! In Columbus in 2001 and then again at the Big House in 2005. You were at State College PA for that miracle win in 1999 and I still recall how you reconstructed the scene of that GREAT victory for me.
I have to admit that I am not convinced that the current hire maturi made is the right man for this job at all. After the way maturi and prexy b bungled the handling of the Mason situation…first in extending him after letting his contract run down to the final hours in 2005 and then terminating him at a VERY expensive buy out rate just one year later left me doubting the financial common sense of prexy b and mac-turi.
The results of the 2007 season have left me incredibly disgusted with the current situation. More than AN”YTHING, I believe there are a LOT of young men wearing the Maroon and Gold who were seniors and juniors and even sophmores and red-shirt freshmen who were sold down the river by this tandom of prexy b and maturi along with their new hire, this brewster character. I don’t believe for a minute that what happened in 2007 had to happen. Those kids really got caught in the very worst part of college athletics…the money game and the power struggle of administrators who needed Mason to get the new stadium deal done all the while they NEVER intended to keep him in place once that stadium deal had been completed. They were willing to waste maillions and millions of dollars, borrowed from the General Fund of the University of Minnesota. They also threw these great young kids at the mercy of what ever their new guy was going to do. It turns out that he threw the season…and the careers of a lot of young men down the drain in a season that produce one over time win over Miami of Ohio and EIGHT Big Ten losses.
So, until brewster shows me something…and that something will need to be a lot of Big Ten wins, I refuse to automatically assume the program is in good hands. Based upon what I saw from him in 2007, I have no confidence in him at this point in time. I also have no confidence in prexy b or maturi.
This time around, they are all going to have to show me something before I will buy a word they say.
Yes, this is different for me. I have always been stupidly, blindly loyal to the University of Minensota Football Program. I want Big Ten wins for the kids on the team…but…I just don’t see leadership coming from the coaches that I can trust and I certainly see no leadership coming from prexy b or mac-turi that I can trust. They have a LOT to prove to me.
But, as I stated, it is GREAT to see you here 6 Nov, 1999! I hope no one gives you too hard a time because you know me. Please think about coming over here often! This site needs good, honest posters to help off-set the dirty-tricks-posters coming here from gopher hole and gopher illustrated who try to discredit the site with their gay-porn crap and foolish name-calling. Of course, even they help to create more hits and numbers…that’s not all bad!
Ski-u-Mah my friend!
NYC: IF you are a Gopher fan you should do some reasearch to learn WHO the Winona Phantom was. Check it out with studwell, or normally dale, or leaky kelli, or the drunk-a-logue guy mcstagger…
This site needs good, honest posters to help off-set the dirty-tricks-posters coming here from gopher hole and gopher illustrated who try to discredit the site with their gay-porn crap and foolish name-calling.
Gay is great! Gay is good! Thank you god, for anal wood! I’m gay and here to stay..cuz my mommy made me this way!
Gay power!
Wren, I too rarely venture over to reading the comments on Chip’s blog. When I saw the comment section contained 244 or so “comments” my first thought was, “How many of those posts were to “contrast’ the great Wren and Loon.” Too many to count.
Kudos to Wren and Loon for their longstanding committment and support of Gopher football. We need more fans like you save for Loon’s racist remarks and Wren’s obsessive-compulsive behaviors. You two Dudley Do-Rights of Gopher football try to spew your rhetoric on whatever electronic medium that will put up with your nauseating viewpoints. I can see why you have so much time to spend on the computer waiting to contrast another persons viewpoint on a matter that in the grand scheme of things doesn’t mean a hill of beans - you two have only have each others body heat to rub up against 7 Saturdays a year other than your own wives.
I’m sorry norman, is it still racist to notice that black kids go to jail at more than three times the rate of white kids? Is it also racist to notice that hispanics are only half as likely to go to jail? What other bits of reality are now called racist?
Reminds me of the old John Cleese episode of ‘Faulty Towers’ where he kept reminding his hotel staff “don’t mention the war” to any of the German guests.
I did NOT enjoy all of those losses. I will not support all of those losses.
Tired excuses by boosters do not cover up what happens on Game Day Saturday. Tired excuses are merely tired excuses.
I’m not impressed by talk. I need to see actions that speak much louder than empty, hyped up words.
Have a good day Norman Dale.
Ap.s to Norman Dale:
Norman Dale says: “you two have only have each others body heat to rub up against 7 Saturdays a year other than your own wives…”
What kind of statement is that Norman Dale? Personally I really don’t want to “rub up against” anyone other than my wife. What kind of stuff are you into Norman? Seems like a pretty strange comment and pass-time unless you are really into some off the wall stuff with studwell, et al.
It just seems like a pretty strange comment coming from you Norman Dale. It seems rather “abnormal…norman…”
Loon: It is not racist to tell us those statistics. They do not lie. What is a problem is the conclusion you draw from those statistics. The other day you wrote about voting for Bill Cosby because of what he’s said about the black community rising up and bettering themselves, which I believe is what you want as well. Whereas the ending is the same, I bet the reasoning that went into it is quite different from yours and your reasons are based on the color of skin period and that’s way too simplistic. Bill Cosby understands the situation much better than you do.
papa eye,
Can i have a date with Gilly? She does still have her flower, right?
There is part of your problem nyc. You think you can read in between lines what YOU project that someone else might be thinking. That pretty much negates any of your preconceived assumptions about what some one else is saying. “I’ll bet you don’t interpret correctly nyc…” I’ll bet you just have a bias against what some one says and try to randomly assign your misguided assumptions to what that other person says. You are entirely too simplistic in what you are trying to say and do here nyc.
Shall I make all kinds of assumptions about you and your statements on this board? Would that be fair of me? Shall I say that “…this is what nyc means when he says (fill in the blank…or what ever?)
nyc: you are guilty of attempting to assign your meaning to some other persons statement.
Eye: That is why I choose the words “I bet…” it leaves the room open for if he thinks differently from what I wrote. I didn’t write “He does…”. So sorry, I don’t agree with your assessment, because that wasn’t my intention.
I will call Loon a racist. Here’s why:
This is the wrong format to bring something like that out. What does the racial incarceration rate have to do with college football? By doing that, he’s seeking to further an agenda that’s not even appropriate to the topic.
Here’s another thing….eye needs a new hobby. His multi-page alcohol induced rants (with CAPITAL letter emphasis) are getting very old.
When Brewster said he was not really interested in recruiting North Dakota he was really saying he was no longer interested in white players as a group or individuals. He then went out and bought in a recruiting class that essentially had one white player from Minnesota and no white players from out of state. His supporters say that black players, ON AVERAGE, are faster and no more likely to cause legal or academic problems.
ON AVERAGE, that is not true. Statistics clearly show otherwise.
PS Eye does not drink. Your insistence that he does makes you seem infantile.
shit guy,,everything has a right to life
I would venture a guess that no one is saying that they are less likely to cause legal problems. Again you are basing it entirely on the color of skin and that explanation is way too simplified. Another glaring reason is economics, but you keep pushing that aside. What percentage of people in jail are in the lower economic level of our society? It is also another reason for thie problem, amongst countless others. Not an excuse, a reason.
–When Brewster said he was not really interested in recruiting North Dakota he was really saying he was no longer interested in white players as a group or individuals. –
Once again, that’s your opinion. It probably has a lot more to do with North Dakota not having enough D1 talent to justify canvassing the state. I’m sure Brewster, along with any other D1 coach, doesn’t care what skin color a talented player has.
exactly
Loon:
Interesting how your buddy Wren bashes for assumptions and you go make a blanket statement about why Brewster is “ignoring” North Dakota. Unreal.
P.S. We already have 2 white commits for next year. Interesting that you think he is “no longer interested in white players as a group or individuals.” I wonder if he is interested in his own family? I think Brewster recruits the best players he can regardless of race, but then again I’m not a consipracy theorist.
Nothing has anything to do with “color of skin”. What it has to do with is other genetic or social factors. I have not pushed away from poverty as a partial cause. It is just a very, very poor preditor of crime in other groups. Poor anything else goes to jail far less frequently. That is also true historically.
Certainly Brewster is recruit speed. I think he is an irresponsible fool to ignore other factors like academics, crime, location near home, brains, social awareness of others, etc.
“Speed, speed and more speed will wash at some places (Miami), were social expectations are irrelevant. As Dom Jones is finding out, it won’t wash here. That has zero to do with skin color, it has everything to do with irresponsible behavior and impulsiveness.
At some point, those of you who cry racism every five minutes are going to have to sit down and actually figure out what the hell is happening to black society. I have seen it change from oppressed by real racism to being a total “dog eat dog” cesspool over the past forty years. Are there excellent black individuals? Yep, lots. However, 90% of black kids now have one or fewer parents.
Sorry. Black society is failing. Themselves.
There is still racism going on out there. Education is a big part of improving one self and there are many cities where that is not a good option. New York City’s public schools have improved, but they are not even close to good and what other options are there for the average student who can only afford to go to public school? And then many drop out because of many reasons, but even if they do graduate where does it leave them? I remember back in the late 80s New York hired Minneapolis’ superintendent, Green was his last name. He was hired to improve NYC public schools and the job killed him, litterally. He had an asmathitic(sp) attack. That’s just one issue of many
Hint, hint. Equality of opportunity is a great idea. I’m all for it. It will always, always be imperfect. So what? Life is not fair.
The real problem is that equality of outcome is never possible no matter what laws or programs are passed. Gene pools vary in things like average height, quickness, speed and many other variables. IQ, self control, work habits and many other genetic qualities also vary, on average, over different populations.
My hint is that, on average, the problem isn’t Chicago, New York or Detroit schools. It is the students in the schools. Move the same students and their parents to Edina or Hinsdale and move those students and parents to the Minneapolis and Chicago schools and all of a sudden the “problem” of bad schools in the big cities would be solved.
Its the genes that make the NFL very black, and it is the genes that make ghetto schools really bad.
Equallity of outcome is only possible when you have very similar gene pools.
You think Chicago public schools are better than New York City’s public schools? Zero times zero still equals zero. So if you took the Edina students and brought them to New York City public schools they would get the same level of education in New York as they did in Edina? Again the problem is much more complex than what you are saying. One part is no adult supervision after school because parent(s) have to have more than 1 job to make ends meet. And that’s just one issue of many. It’s also about money being put into the school system and how it’s being spent. NYC schools are overcrowded and underfunded.
90% of black kids have one or FEWER parents that live with them.
No school teachers IQ, it is one of many “sperm meets egg, game over” issues. New York, Chicago and all other public schools worked fine with less money when the kids were smarter and more centered on getting ahead. Put 2,000 Jewish kids chosen at random at any school and you will get a top academic school over night.
Add to that that the black kids are being raised to believe that there are others ways to earn money other than going to school and you get the current disaster. Disaster for them, disaster for their community, disaster for the country.
I vote for mandatory, three drug convictions and you are executed. If we actually loved our kids, black or white, we would stop drug sales regardless of the cost. The cost now is to throw away 10% of all our kids, 33% of all black kids. We sit back and talk about more government programs as if that has not totally failed at every step.
But, liberals do not love black kids and what is happenning to them. They turn their heads and pretend it is all being done to the blacks by some magic conspiracy of white folk.
Loon: This last post, you sound like a Nazi. You’re hopeless. Your understand of the issue is typical of conservatives. Simplify. Black and white, no gray area. Narcissistic: meaning your way of thinking is the only way to think. Broaden your mind. Think outside your comfort zone.
Loon: Also CNN is asking people to write essays on what it’s like to be black today in America. I would imagine they’ll do a feature on it later on. I think it will be a good read. Hopefully it will begin to open your eyes a bit on what’s going on out there, if you’re willing to open your mind a bit.
Who is not thinking outside their particular comfort zone and resorting to name calling?
Blacks need to stop feeling sorry for themselves and get on with the job of life. In the end, you do it or you do not. My 62 years have shown me that feeling sorry for yourself is a waste of time. “Victims” just end up being victims.
How else would you describe 3 convictions and you’re executed? Especially given the number of mistakes of people on death row? That attitude is Nazi-like. I completely agree feeling sorry for yourself is a waste of time. How does one revive the hope in their lives when they see none? I do hope you read what’s put up on CNN soon.
It appears to me that you know what you know and there’s no budging from it. You could be set in your ways. I’m a bit over 10 years younger than you and I work hard at keeping an open mind, that there’s more than one way to look at things. It is my goal to never get an old mind.
From where I sit you seem to sit in judgment of people who know nothing about. That’s a big problem for me. And don’t you think that maybe playing football for the U of M could help some players break the cycle of being poor and uneducated? Again this problem is complex.
From where I sit you seem to sit in judgment of people who know nothing about.
I meant: From where I sit you seem to sit in judgment of people you know nothing about. I don’t think you have a clue as to how much prejudice there is out there.
Also why don’t you go and mentor a kid from North Minneapolis? Be part of the solution, since you are a retired teacher. I bet you’d learn a thing or too as well.
How is it he does not have a father and/or mother to mentor him? Sorry, not able to take care of kids, don’t have kids. Very basic stuff.
That’s a moot point when the child is already here. How many women of all colors are in a single family unit. It takes a village to raise a child. so since the mother needs to work in order to put food on the table she shouldn’t be able to look for help to teach her kid when the assistance is there to help? The kind of person you are showing me to be is not the kind of person I admire/respect. Your understanding of the world is quite warped/insulated.
Now I understand why you wrote what you did about Senator John Edwards that day. What he is doing doesn’t make any sense to you and that makes so much sense to me. You two are polar opposites.
If large numbers of young females decide to jump into snake pits what is the village to do? Oh my!!? Let us not be judgemental and question their values, that would be bad. Instead, let us pay them so they will be all “loved” in their nice snake pit.
How about, “Dear 12 year old girls, it is stupid past all belief that you are jumping into snake pits because it gives you a short rush of fun and ‘love’. We will not pay you to do this anymore. It is too stupid.” ?
The last forty years of my life has been a slow evolution away from your view that society can save people from making stupid decisions. Time for those in the snake pit to stop going into snake pits and blaming the people who begged them not to do that.
You are a cold callous man. Your analogy makes no sense. If large numbers of women jump into snake pits, I would try to find out why and attack that reason. Your way of looking at things is if they’re stupid enough to do it let em. My mother raised me to be more compassionate.
But, compassion does not change behavior. If we pay people to have babies, dumb people will have more babies. Smart people will not see the cash as worth it.
With compassion there is a chance at behavior. Showing no compassion there is a 100% chance of no change. Which would you prefer? What did Jesus teach us?
Another point: people who live insulated lives, change is difficult. You are an example of this, like people who live in the ghettoes of inner cities. They don’t see a world beyond there day to day lives, therefore they see no hope. How do you change that? How do you change the way you see your life? You seem stuck in your ways but yet you judge them for being stuck in there ways. I see similiarities in how you both look at life.
With compassion there is a chance at behavior.
I mean a chance at changing behavior.
Don’t you think that the various after school programs help to facilitate a chance at a better life for some kids? Do you think the people who help to run those programs have compassion or don’t have compassion?
