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News and notes

Posted on May 12th, 2008 – 7:38 PM
By Chip Scoggins

The Gophers football team announced a few news tidbits today. I’m still on vacation so sorry about being so slow to post them.

– Sophomore WR Tray Herndon has been granted his release and will transfer. I’m not too surprised to be honest. I heard immediately after the season that he was not happy and considering leaving. I talked to someone very close to him during spring practice who said Herndon was strongly considering that option. Herndon played in all 12 games (with 7 starts) as a true freshman but he had only three catches the last five games and would have entered next season way down the depth chart.

– The Gophers have named QB Adam Weber, WR Eric Decker, DE Willie VanDeSteeg and LB Steve Davis as 2008 captains. That’s two seniors, a junior and a sophomore.

 – Defensive line coach Tim Cross was promoted to associate head coach.

– The team annoucned four game times: Northern Illinois at 6 p.m., Illinois at 11 a.m., Northwestern at 11 a.m., and Iowa at 6 p.m. 

281 Responses to "News and notes"

Bayfield Gopher says:

May 12th, 2008 at 8:31 pm

Brewster seems to like night games. Last year 4 of the 7 home games were under the lights. Looks like the trend may continue this Fall.

Tough for some of us outstate guys with Sunday morning committments to make it when the game is over between 10:30-11:30pm.

Dakota Gopher says:

May 12th, 2008 at 8:45 pm

Brewster has no control over the kickoff times, all set by TV.

The Loon says:

May 12th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

One of the main reasons I do not pay much attention to the recruiting reports, besides the obvious fact that the guys who run these things are only out to make a buck and do not know anything more about football talent than any other former part time mailmen, is shown quite clearly by Trey Herndon leaving after one nothing season.

All recruits come and go, perform or don’t perform, are more often over hyped and declared “future stars” way too often.

The “fastest 18 year old in Florida” is gone faster than a speeding bullet. A “can’t miss” becomes yesterdays superstar gone puff. Nothing worse than hype.

A Brewster recruit if memory serves me right. Remember how he was going to real in a few “hidden gems” right away?

The Loon says:

May 12th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

reel in….

Recruiting says:

May 12th, 2008 at 9:04 pm

Another member of DAC-off’s all-world, 17th ranked recruiting class won’t make it to campus this fall.

http://minnesota.scout.com/2/754120.html

Recruiting says:

May 12th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

The Loon says:

May 12th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

reel in….
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Looks like Michigan will be reeling in Bryce McNeal.

MC² says:

May 12th, 2008 at 9:11 pm

Another member of DAC-off’s all-world, 17th ranked recruiting class won’t make it to campus this fall.

Although he’d spent time committed to Minnesota, Gayden wasn’t part of the final class. He’d never signed and was looking to grayshirt, now it looks like he’ll spend two years in JC before likely joining the team at Minnesota.

Tom D. says:

May 12th, 2008 at 9:18 pm

I see Loonie is at it again. Did you know he dreams of coach Mason every night? Brewster can out-recruit Mason if half his class leaves and Loonie knows it. Loonie fell in love with Mason’s 32-48 Big Ten record. Quite an accomplishment.

B says:

May 12th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

Loon…get a life.

Recruiting - where do your see Gayden listed here?

http://minnesota.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2008&School=46

You don’t. He didn’t sign because his grades were iffy. He was not a part of the recruiting class!! Word is he being ‘placed’ there by Brew and will be brought in if his grades are in order and he does well.

People need to stop Brewster bashing and support the team AND the coach that is here.

buckshotmike (rivals.com) says:

May 12th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

Loon and recruting are delusional. Herndon wasnt even the fastest florida recruit in that class. His name was Harold Howell. And Gayden never signed and didnt count toward the class. He is heading to JUCO instead of gray shirting. Maybe if you didnt get kicked out of recruiting websites you would know what your talking about.

Eagle Eye says:

May 12th, 2008 at 10:20 pm

Loonie - Herndon was a late, 2 star pickup by Brewster after he saw how bare Mason left the WR cupboard. Try using some facts in your “I still love Smilin’ Glen the best” posts.

thewrenagain says:

May 12th, 2008 at 11:44 pm

eagle eye: so you want to get back into the Mason didn’t atnicipate what the heck brewster was going to do to throw away the 2007 season? It really doesn’t matter waht Mason left…brewster was going to scrap everything and toss that season away. He thinks he still has another throw away season coming to him…after all, he talked how bad things were for TWO years at carolina.

No…Mason left him plenty to win with IF he would have actually cared enough about the players that were there. Those kids played within a td or so in SIX of those stinking games that brewster threw.

You want to try to blame Mason for brewster’s incompetence on game day Saturday in 2007????? Sorry, brewster went to the spreadsy/wedsy/easty/westy/dink ‘em/coast offense. As a result, he did his throw away season routine in 2007.

That brewster is the biggest whiner and blamer I have ever heard of. You are one of his agents eagle eye….I/m not buying your spin. The 2007 season goes on brewster and brewster alone! He was the gm/recruiter (he sure as heck wasn’t a coach.) He got paid for the 2007 season. He threw away a LOT of chances to win ball gameAs a result: he needs to win a LOT of Big Ten ball games in 2008.

You aren’t getting by with making excuses for brewster and trying to blame anyone else. brewster screwed things up in 2007 all by himself. He took the gig…he takes the heat!

Gold Rush says:

May 13th, 2008 at 4:25 am

Oh just what we needed to hear….Loon and wren badmouthing Coach Brewster and the Gopher football program again.

I think it’s funny both of you profess to be these diehard Gopher fans and all you do is badmouth the coach without even giving him a chance. Mason’s team struggled his first year too as the team adapted to different schemes and won only 3 games but you weren’t jumping off the ledge then. I think both of you guys have an agenda here to villify Brewster and it stinks.

Give Brewster a chance and support the coach and team!!!

Recruiting says:

May 13th, 2008 at 5:58 am

Eagle Eye says:

May 12th, 2008 at 10:20 pm

Loonie - Herndon was a late, 2 star pickup by Brewster after he saw how bare Mason left the WR cupboard. Try using some facts in your “I still love Smilin’ Glen the best” posts.
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But back then, he was “a sleeper, a diamond in the rough, a hidden gem, undiscovered talent, unbelievable find” that only the highly skilled talent scout named brewster could possibly sniff out.

Recruiting says:

May 13th, 2008 at 6:11 am

buckshotmike (rivals.com) says:

May 12th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

Loon and recruting are delusional. Herndon wasnt even the fastest florida recruit in that class. His name was Harold Howell.
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Do you mean Harold “papa fumbles” Howell, who was to be the next Gale Sayers-Billy “white shoes” Johnson-Devin Hester of kick/punt returners??????????????????? He must be fast, because I didn’t even see him on all of those break away runbacks last year?!!! Flash…..gone….TD………. All I recall is his Wisconsin fumble. :( Sure hope he does a better job holding onto junior than he does footballs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You go Brewster, you recruiting SOB!!!!!!!

Recruiting says:

May 13th, 2008 at 6:13 am

Gold Rush says:

May 13th, 2008 at 4:25 am

Oh just what we needed to hear….Loon and wren badmouthing Coach Brewster and the Gopher football program again.

I think it’s funny both of you profess to be these diehard Gopher fans and all you do is badmouth the coach without even giving him a chance. Mason’s team struggled his first year too as the team adapted to different schemes and won only 3 games but you weren’t jumping off the ledge then. I think both of you guys have an agenda here to villify Brewster and it stinks.
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Thats because mason didn’t show up here screaming Rose Bowl this and Rose Bowl that every 30 seconds and then proceed to flop like a carp to a 1-11 record. “Struggle?”

Recruiting says:

May 13th, 2008 at 6:14 am

Tom D. says:

May 12th, 2008 at 9:18 pm

I see Loonie is at it again. Did you know he dreams of coach Mason every night? Brewster can out-recruit Mason if half his class leaves and Loonie knows it. Loonie fell in love with Mason’s 32-48 Big Ten record. Quite an accomplishment.
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0-8???????????????????????????

Recruiting says:

May 13th, 2008 at 6:15 am

Tom D. says:

May 12th, 2008 at 9:18 pm

I see Loonie is at it again. Did you know he dreams of coach Mason every night? Brewster can out-recruit Mason if half his class leaves and Loonie knows it. Loonie fell in love with Mason’s 32-48 Big Ten record. Quite an accomplishment.
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Soon to be 0-9!!!!!!!!

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 6:52 am

Hey Recruiting a/k/a moron, Pantherhawk, Loon, Wren, Bud, loser as well as several other aliases:

The last 5 posts were written by you - the sad part about it is they weren’t even directed toward you. So now who’s the obsessive-compulsive poster??

Tray Herndon - worked hard, but saw very little playing time in the spring game. He played less of a role in the last few games (Big 10 games - that’s all that matters). I think a person has to be honest with themselves and ask if there’s a future. I think for Tray, there was but as a back-up. He’ll do well somewhere else….somewhere that doesn’t run a spread. Best wishes to Tray on his future endevors.

thewrenagain says:

May 13th, 2008 at 7:10 am

Hey goldrush: that eagle eye character triied to come in bashing Mason and he tried to blame brewsters miserable 2007 record on Mason. Here is a clue you bashers: Mason wasn’t even around in 2007. aIt was totally brewster’s baby. IF he would have won some games, you bahsers and mobbers most certainly would have been hyping that. Well, here is a fact: brewster didn’t win ball games that he should have won…the close games and he will FKOREVER be responsible for his record. You dudes and dudettes can NOT have it both ways. brewster bought the house and he is responsible for what he did with the house. He tried to convert the house into something it was not built for and all of his attempted conversions came back to haunt him during the 2007 season. It wasn’t the former house’s owner who was responsible for the fact that brewster attempted to use the house for something it wasn’t built to be.

That’s the deal gh/gi/boosters. Quit trying to blame Mason for ALL of brewster’s problems. When you quit doing that, we can quit having these discussions about brewster’s incompetency and inadequacy during the 2007 season. You guys are like broken records. And every time you try to play that broken record: the 0-8 Big Ten record of brewster’s will HAVE to be looked at again! You need to quit making the excuses for brewster. Is he a coach or is he just a hyped up used car salesman who can’t coach his way out of a wet paper bag?

2008 will give him a chance to learn from his mistakes. He NEEDS lots of Big Ten wins.

GoGophers says:

May 13th, 2008 at 7:25 am

Rescooter was the only post above that had any sense behind it. You idiots ruin this blog with the same crap over and over.

Mason is gone. Brewster is here for at least 2 more seasons. Get over it.

We are in the last year of the Metrodome, then into a beautiful new stadium. Isn’t there ONE THING you can be positive about?

Yeah right.

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 7:40 am

GoGophers - Thanks!

I also noticed the gametime of last game in the dome(Iowa), 6:00. That is going to be one wild game!

Bud says:

May 13th, 2008 at 7:44 am

Well another one bites the dust. Interesting that of the 2007 BREWSTER recruiting class, the only two starters have now left the team. C. Brewster, D.O., Spry, H. Howell, T. Herndon, and C. Thomas. That would be 25% of Brewsters first recruiting class gone after one year. The rest of the 2007 class was already committed to the U before Brewster was named head coach. I know you Brewsterites say that he did not have enough time to come in after he was hired to put together a snappy class, but you would have thought with his crack coaching staff they would have been on some great players. After all you had Hammock coming to us from No. Illinois after two years of college coaching. Butler coming to us from Harvard after 4 years in the Ivy league. Cross from Syracuse after one year of college coaching. Lewis after his G.A. duty from Texas, where I am sure he had a boat load of leads on recruits not already committed. Lee, who had been fired after one year each at Wisconsin and Michigan. He had it pretty easy on the recruiting trail in 2006 & 2007. I am sure P. Meyer brought a lot to the table in 2007 with that recruiting list he brought in after being at UW-Oshkosh for 7 years. Withers came from the NFL and stayed for a cup of coffee. Dunbar who was at Cal. for one season. And McDonald who came to the U. from Western Michigan after one season. Stanford before that for one season and No. Illinois before that for 2 seasons. T. Herndon caught 22 balls for 200 plus yards and one touchdown in 2007. Will that be difficult to replace? Probably not, but the fact still remains that with each one of these players leaving the program and the way the ARP works, we are going to be facing the lose of scholarships. You can blame it on the previous staff, but every new coach coming into a program knows that the NCAA changed the rules because retention is the only indicator of graduation. If a player sticks it out for 4 or 5 years they usually walk with their degree.

Bud says:

May 13th, 2008 at 7:54 am

Game times are set at this time of the year by the University. They are subject to change based on the BT television contract which we still have no idea what is going to happen with. The BT and Comcast are still fighting over the details. Did we not hear the same thing last year at this time. The BT needs Comcast on hell of a lot more than Comcast needs the BT.

thewrenagain says:

May 13th, 2008 at 8:08 am

brewster is responsible for EVERYTHING about the Gopher football program starting in 2007. THAT is what I have been saying. You bashers/mobbers/gi/gh/booster dudes and dudettes who keep trying to bring Mason into the equation are the people who need to just stop trying to make excuses for brewster. His record IS what his record IS. He has no one to fault or blame. He IS all that there is. Everything that happens happens on HIS watch. For better…or…for worse.

He gets NO mulligans. EVERY game is his…win or lose. He needs a LOT of Big Ten wins because they are the games that you bashers and mobbers and boosters count…and the ONLY games you count. Oh yes, and he needs TIG TIME bowl wins NOW!

Recruiting says:

May 13th, 2008 at 8:16 am

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 6:52 am

Hey Recruiting a/k/a moron, Pantherhawk, Loon, Wren, Bud, loser as well as several other aliases:
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Oh yes, dumbass, there can only be one person on the planet who sees your precious punk for the jag-off he is?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

Gophs08 says:

May 13th, 2008 at 8:25 am

I don’t think any of the posters above are Brewster-lovers, they are just saying give him a chance. But all of you Brewster-haters get so offended by anyone else who doesn’t hate him like guys do. Of course he has to take the majority of the blame for last season, but give the guy a chance. Analyzing the 2007 season is a waste of time, move on and let’s focus on what happens in 2008!

Finally, if Mason was such a good coach, WHY DOESN’T HE HAVE A HEAD COACHING JOB NOW!!??!!

Gopher Guy says:

May 13th, 2008 at 8:32 am

I think I read 2 decent posts. The rest sound like a couple of kids crying.

thewrenagain says:

May 13th, 2008 at 8:35 am

Maybe he is collecting a very nice check and doesn’t have to put up with the b.s. that U of M administrators, boosters, gi/gh members are so fond of trying to spew.

The administrators aer writing him some pretty nice checks and they did it to themselves.

Sit back and rake in that U of M General Fund $$$$$! Sounds like a pretty good gig to me! Oh yes, also do color on the Big Ten Network and pull down more coin from another job.

There are a lot of ways to do things. quite frankly, ANYONE who takes this U of M head coaching job goes through a meat grinder. Just ask bierman, Warmath, Stoll, Salem, hoax, (hoax couldn’t wait gto get the hell out of the U of M coaching job you people DO realize) Gutey, Wacker and Mason. It is a graveyard of college coaches…thanks to the various administrations over theses many, many decades. Hang the administrations in effigy! Curse their names. THEY are the football program and what has happened to the football program at the U of M. They have used and abused football coaches for a LONG time now. brewster will just be the latest one to be chewed up and spit out by the U of M administrative machine.

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 8:46 am

Wren - I actually read your last post and I’m a little confused. You constantly tell us that all that matters is Big10 wins. How many Big10 wins did Mason, Wacker, and Gutekunst have?

Yet you say that the only thing that matters is Big10 wins??? Perhaps the Administration is doing their job and getting us Big10 wins….the only thing that matters, right?

Please lay off the administration and also quit talking out of both sides of your mouth.

The Loon says:

May 13th, 2008 at 8:51 am

Mason was 32-48 without the new stadium and while taking over a program that had not been to a bowl game in many years. Who could not do better than that? Well, we are at 0-8 and counting.

As I have said before, if we were running an honest program I would be happy to support this AD and his coach. Mason is gone and Brewster is here. I will not be supporting what Brewster is doing, just as I would not have supported what Mason was doing if Maturi had been honest about the games being played. He was not.

GOPHER1 says:

May 13th, 2008 at 8:52 am

Wow, I leave for a week to go hunting anf fishing and come back and it is the same old garbage in here. Glad to see nothing ever changes here.

TNgopher says:

May 13th, 2008 at 8:53 am

On behalf of Gopher fans/supporters everywhere, can Mr. Loon please resign his “allegiance” to Gopher football? We’re sick of you and your terrible attitude toward our team. You might as well be an Iowa or Wisky fan, we think that highly of you.

Recruiting says:

May 13th, 2008 at 8:54 am

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 8:46 am

Wren - I actually read your last post and I’m a little confused. You constantly tell us that all that matters is Big10 wins. How many Big10 wins did Mason, Wacker, and Gutekunst have?

Yet you say that the only thing that matters is Big10 wins??? Perhaps the Administration is doing their job and getting us Big10 wins….the only thing that matters, right?

Please lay off the administration and also quit talking out of both sides of your mouth.
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0-9!

Bud says:

May 13th, 2008 at 8:56 am

Gophs08, if the job Mason had taken was not up to your expectations you would have bashed him for that also. You and the others fool know one on this site. Give poor little Brewster a chance. That would have been fine if he had not come in here saying all the things he said. Now I will give him credit, he has toned it down a lot. I believe he has because he realizes now that he is in a fight for his coaching life. He is a first timer as a head coach and his leach has been shortened by going 1-11 (0-8). People will not have much patients with another repeat performance or anything close. You have to admit that most of these posters want to push all the blame back on the previous staff and expect that all will be rosy once Brewster gets his guys in here. It could be to late if we allow to happen what happened after Holtz left town and Gutty was given the rains. Just because we had some success with Mason does not mean we had turned the corner. We were winning and going to bowl games. Brewster was brought in to take us to the next level not tear it all down and start from scratch. We will lose the national recognition we had if we put 2 or 3 losing seasons together.

GOPHER1 says:

May 13th, 2008 at 8:59 am

How many Big 10 wins does everyone think Michigan will have this year? If anyone here actually follows college football you would all know that Michigan is having one heck of a time right now under Rich Rod. Transition is part of the game of college football now, get use to it.

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 9:04 am

Rich Rod will be 4-8 this year. The Gophers will beat the Wolverines. The differences between offenses is like night and day.

They’ve also had a few key players transfer. Many don’t like his style. Wolverine fans are not very patient and the honeymoon will be over after 2 or 3 games.

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 9:17 am

Here’s the Big10 records:

Gutekust: 18-28-2 .391
Wacker: 8-32 .200
Mason: 32-48 .400

If the only thing that matters is Big10 wins, none of the last 3 coaches were above .500. We needed a re-look.

By the way, the academics have improved under Brewster.

Texas Gopher says:

May 13th, 2008 at 9:19 am

G1–Coach Rod is a proven winner. I think Mich will go 5-7 this year but in future years they will be an absolute monster to contend with. I see national championships in the making there. Year one and two will be tough but look out after that.

GOPHER1 says:

May 13th, 2008 at 9:27 am

Texas, that is what I am saying. You have to give these coaches a chance to get their systems and their players in place…a transition. Thse transitions don’t just occur here at the U, it is everywhere.

As I have said, if in two/three years we don’t see a big improvement on the field I to will be calling for Brewster’s head as well. But as of right now, I know he is trying to shape this program for how he envisions it and that cannot be done over night. It takes time. I guess I can’t fault a guy for having a vision and making an attempt to make that vision a reality. Go Gophs!

Texas Gopher says:

May 13th, 2008 at 9:32 am

G1–agree 100%

Texas Gopher says:

May 13th, 2008 at 9:41 am

Besides the Gophers schedule, the most intriguing matchup is Ohio State V USC in early Sept. The Gophers play OSU 2 weeks later. This may be a pipe dream, but wouldn’t it be great if both teams were undefeated for that 5th game??? I’m not saying we will win the game, but it would give the U some great publicity.

littlebigboy says:

May 13th, 2008 at 9:55 am

Some of the people on this board must be awfully stupid, since they have to keep reminding each other how good Mason was and how terrible Brewster is. The rest of us all picked up what you think back in DEC. We will live in the future and go from there and not hash over your old crap. Grow up and quit cluttering up this site. Most of us are tired of your juvenality, or senility.

Recruiting says:

May 13th, 2008 at 10:03 am

GOPHER1 says:

May 13th, 2008 at 8:59 am

How many Big 10 wins does everyone think Michigan will have this year? If anyone here actually follows college football you would all know that Michigan is having one heck of a time right now under Rich Rod. Transition is part of the game of college football now, get use to it.
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5 to 6 including 1 over the Punkmeister……

Recruiting says:

May 13th, 2008 at 10:18 am

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 9:17 am

Here’s the Big10 records:

Gutekust: 18-28-2 .391
Wacker: 8-32 .200
Mason: 32-48 .400

If the only thing that matters is Big10 wins, none of the last 3 coaches were above .500. We needed a re-look.

By the way, the academics have improved under Brewster.
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God you are a moron, Toots! 0-9 = .000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Those Mason recruits are the ones holding up the GPA of the football team….give it a year or 2 of those CC and JUCO rejects!

Recruiting says:

May 13th, 2008 at 10:20 am

Texas Gopher says:

May 13th, 2008 at 9:41 am

Besides the Gophers schedule, the most intriguing matchup is Ohio State V USC in early Sept. The Gophers play OSU 2 weeks later. This may be a pipe dream, but wouldn’t it be great if both teams were undefeated for that 5th game??? I’m not saying we will win the game, but it would give the U some great publicity.
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Don’t learn, do ya boy? All you brewster lubbers were touting that at this time last year!!!!!! OSU vs MN, both undefeated…..Sat night game…….could be college game day material!!!!!!!! lol

Recruiting says:

May 13th, 2008 at 10:22 am

littlebigboy says:

May 13th, 2008 at 9:55 am

Some of the people on this board must be awfully stupid, since they have to keep reminding each other how good Mason was and how terrible Brewster is. The rest of us all picked up what you think back in DEC. We will live in the future and go from there and not hash over your old crap. Grow up and quit cluttering up this site. Most of us are tired of your juvenality, or senility.
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Hmmmmmmmm….who needs to be reminded of 1-11, 0-8 soon to be 0-9?

Gold04 says:

May 13th, 2008 at 10:53 am

It’s the same old boring stuff by the Masonites. Like it or not Brewtser is here for three years. Brewster inherited a team which was predicted by experts to finish dead LAST in the Big Ten, so I’m not going to say Armedgedon is here after one year. This year will be a more telling sign where the program is at.

Texas Gopher says:

May 13th, 2008 at 11:01 am

Recruiting—I think it is realistic to think we could be 4-0 going into that OSU game. Your cynicism apparently knows no limit. Your posting seems to be a waste of time to me.

mnmike says:

May 13th, 2008 at 11:14 am

–God you are a moron, Toots! 0-9 = .000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Those Mason recruits are the ones holding up the GPA of the football team….give it a year or 2 of those CC and JUCO rejects!–

So Mason gets credit for the player’s living up to their educational duties, but Brewster takes the blame for the smart, but not so athletically talented player’s skills? Seems fair to me…

mnmike says:

May 13th, 2008 at 11:17 am

–Brewster inherited a team which was predicted by experts to finish dead LAST in the Big Ten, so I’m not going to say Armedgedon is here after one year. This year will be a more telling sign where the program is at.—

Exactly. I’ve been trying to tell someone here the exact same thing, but this person believes that squad had 7-5 talent written all over it.

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 11:20 am

I have to laugh at Recruiting. His posts are so full of factual errors that he has no credibility.

The last I checked, Brewster’s Big 10 record was 0-8; just ask WREN.

Tim says:

May 13th, 2008 at 11:21 am

WOW, a lot of ignorance all over these posts. Mason left the cupboard bare. Let’s remember his team was 3-6 and BARELY beat ND State at one point before they reeled off what was a shocking win streak. So you take that team, take away a SENIOR QB, replace him with a FRESHMAN, get rid of a couple lineman, lose 3 starters on defense due to stupidity, and you’re telling me Brewster had a Bowl team on his hands? Give me a break.

And did I hear this right? Because Mason didn’t come in with Rose Bowl aspirations, it was okay for him to go 32-48 in the Big Ten, but since Brewster actually had high goals for this program, he’s worse? So basically, as long as the coach expects to lose, it’s okay to suck.

Derek says:

May 13th, 2008 at 11:59 am

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 11:20 am

I have to laugh at Recruiting. His posts are so full of factual errors that he has no credibility.
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PH has always had problems with facts. He seems to get unbent when people call him on his posting under several names bit. The pigeon fan is obsessed with Gopher sports, then again he’s been kicked off of some Ioway sites too. LMAOR.

Gold04 says:

May 13th, 2008 at 12:06 pm

Masonites,

People aren’t saying Brewster is the greatest coach ever. They are not saying he is even a better coach then Mason. All they are saying is just give the guy a fair shot.

You guys could be right. Brewster might not be able to survive beyond year three, but let’s give the guy a fair shot. He’s got three years, and one year is too early in coming to a conclusion. I think year two will be a telling sign where the program is headed.

If Brewster inherited a OSU team and went 1-11, he should be fired on the spot. Going 1-11 on a team projected to finish dead last in the Big Ten is not grounds for early termination.

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 12:11 pm

Derek says:

May 13th, 2008 at 11:59 am

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 11:20 am

I have to laugh at Recruiting. His posts are so full of factual errors that he has no credibility.
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PH has always had problems with facts. He seems to get unbent when people call him on his posting under several names bit. The pigeon fan is obsessed with Gopher sports, then again he’s been kicked off of some Ioway sites too. LMAOR.

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It gets no lower than being kicked off an Iowa site!

Jimbo says:

May 13th, 2008 at 12:17 pm

I don’t believe Math is an offered major at the University of Iowa.

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 12:25 pm

Perhaps they teach it, but he was absent that day.

pokeintheeye says:

May 13th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

Tim hits the nail right on the head, “So basically, as long as the coach expects to lose, it’s okay to suck.”

Jimbo says:

May 13th, 2008 at 2:18 pm

No, Scooter, I don’t even think they have a one-day program. They needed to eliminate the Math Department in a budget cut so they could pay Ferentz’ salary, and the team’s legal fees.

Recruiting says:

May 13th, 2008 at 2:21 pm

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 11:20 am

I have to laugh at Recruiting. His posts are so full of factual errors that he has no credibility.

The last I checked, Brewster’s Big 10 record was 0-8; just ask WREN.
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OK, one more vote for the Gophers beating OSU at Columbus this season from Scooter!!!!!!!!

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 3:23 pm

Recruiting, you are way to easy to mess with. In fact, by having you post here, the average IQ of this board drops 5-10 points.

Here’s the deal: I gave you too much credit regarding not being able to count. The real problem is you are unable to reason. So let me get this straight….Minnesota should not even bother to play Ohio State because you’ve got us pegged to lose. You really are stupid.

I’m not even going to respond to your obsessive/moronic posts. It’s a waste of time and bandwidth.

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

Jimbo - I have no idea what they’re teaching in Iowa. Even if we dumbed down simple mathmatics…like count the felonies or count the number of pretty women in the state, they still would get it wrong. I’m glad I didn’t waste my money on a U of I education.

mnmike says:

May 13th, 2008 at 3:38 pm

An education from the University of Iowa gets you one of three careers: feeding hogs, detaselling corn, or working in a rendering plant.

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

mnmike - agree.

The question I have is why they have the 1st political primary.

mnmike says:

May 13th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

rescooter,

I figure it’s to make the Iowan’s feel like they belong to the country. I remember an old “Family Ties” episode where the daughter asks the father what the capital of Iowa was. His answer, “Iowa doesn’t have a capital. It’s the responsibility of all the other states to take care of it.”

Bud says:

May 13th, 2008 at 3:50 pm

Gold4, for the last time you Brewsterite. The major predictors of college football do not do their picking until after spring ball. You keep insinuating that the Gopher team was picked to finish last before MASON LOST HIS JOB. The experts only picked the Gophers dead last after they saw who we hired and what he was trying to do. They knew we hired a head coach with no experience as a head coach and he was changing everything. That spells disaster in the BT. Where do they have us picked this year? I have not seen any predictions yet. (May 13)

GOPHER1 says:

May 13th, 2008 at 3:53 pm

Hmmm interesting point Bud, that is why all of the national “experts” have picked the mighty Michigan to have a losing record this year. Same exact scenario you just described.

Bud says:

May 13th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

TX, Michigan will win 8 or more games this year because their coach knows how to not loose games. He has been a head coach and he understands that you can not turn the ball over and expect to win many games. He will play to his defenses strength and not put the players in a system they can not handle. Michigan lost a QB who played as a freshman but is not suited to RR offense and a starting O-lineman. He has not had the mass defections that the Gophers had and are still having one year later.

Bud says:

May 13th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

Gopher1, please lead me to you reference source for Michigan having a losing record. I do not know who your experts are but I have not seen that in print. What exact scenario are you referring to Gopher1. RR has been a head coach and he has hired asst. coaches with major college experience. Not much similar to me except for the offense. If you do not think that Michigan will roll into here with a pretty good idea of how to stop the might spread, you have another think coming.

Recruiting says:

May 13th, 2008 at 5:26 pm

Rescooter says:

May 13th, 2008 at 3:23 pm

Recruiting, you are way to easy to mess with. In fact, by having you post here, the average IQ of this board drops 5-10 points.

Here’s the deal: I gave you too much credit regarding not being able to count. The real problem is you are unable to reason. So let me get this straight….Minnesota should not even bother to play Ohio State because you’ve got us pegged to lose. You really are stupid.
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Well gee, MasterMind, when your “coach” can’t even outscheme NDSU for a win at home, wtf are his odds in columbus against number 1????? Follow the trend, DoorKnob, its 0-8.

Recruiting says:

May 13th, 2008 at 5:30 pm

GOPHER1 says:

May 13th, 2008 at 3:53 pm

Hmmm interesting point Bud, that is why all of the national “experts” have picked the mighty Michigan to have a losing record this year. Same exact scenario you just described.
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Michigan hired a self-promoting numbskull with no HC or even coordinator experience, who is running around yapping ROSE BOWL, ROSE BOWL, ROSE BOWL to anyone who will listen??

Gold04 says:

May 13th, 2008 at 6:44 pm

Bud,

The Gophers were predicted to finish dead last in the Big Ten. Mason coaching MAYBE would have bumped them two spots max in predictions. After the pathetic showing on defense against Tech, I even have my doubts about that.

In the end Brewster did not inherit a very good team.

Gold04 says:

May 13th, 2008 at 6:48 pm

Bud,

One expert wrote when you bring back a terrible defense and lose three fourths of your offense (Cupito, Speath, Payne), what do you expect? Last in the Big Ten.

Mase was not this BIG factor in predictions like you make him out to be.

THern says:

May 13th, 2008 at 7:14 pm

brewster is a straight up asshole man. he ain’t going to lead this football team no place no way.

mn_cagv says:

May 13th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

Why dont you all go to a bar and discuss it face to face, make sure to go to a bar that has many chairs and empty bottle laying around…

The Loon says:

May 13th, 2008 at 11:23 pm

OK, TNgopher, so it is OK with you that our program is buying players? It is OK with you that we lost every game we played last year except the game that M of O gave us? It is OK with you that we have become all fluff and no substance?

It is not OK with me and I will continue to say so as long as I can. This is going to be another throw away season and if the NCAA gets some evidence, it will be a throw away decade (remember Monson? Double it.)

Bud says:

May 14th, 2008 at 6:58 am

Thanks Gold4, you have answered the question. We would not have been picked last. Not saying we would have been picked 1 thru 5 either, but we would not have been picked dead last. That selection came on the heels of the Brewster hiring. It looks like we are catching a nice break this year with the BT scheduling. ESPN has their top 25 for 2008 out and there are 5 BT teams in the top 25. OSU, Ill, Wisc., MSU, & PSU, we do not have to play two of them. Didn’t MSU hire their coach at the same time we did? We kick the crap out of them in 2006 and they went to a bowl in 2007. They are in the top 25 in 2008 and where are we? They do not run the SPREAD.

Bud says:

May 14th, 2008 at 7:05 am

Check out OSU non-conference schedule TX, they play Youngstown,Ohio U., Troy & USC. I would say they have a good chance of being at least 3-1 when we play them. We could be 4-0 and ranked ahead of them before the game. We could even be ranked #1 in the country at that point.

mnmike says:

May 14th, 2008 at 7:37 am

–OK, TNgopher, so it is OK with you that our program is buying players? –

Any proof of that Walter Mitty? If you truly cared about the program, I would expect you to bring this to the school & NCAA’s attention. Instead, you keep babbling on about it anonymously on a blog.

GOPHER1 says:

May 14th, 2008 at 7:57 am

Bud check out the Big Ten preview on ESPN.com, SI.com or any other college source. Rich Rod himself has said this year is going to be a tough year and a losing record is very possible. His first year at WV he only won 3 games. I’m not saying Michigan will win 3 games but they will not win the 8 that you think they will.

Gold04 says:

May 14th, 2008 at 8:00 am

Bud,

We still probably would have been picked last by a lot of experts with Mase. MAYBE with Mase as coach could have kept us 10th or 9th in predictions. We still would have been VERY low.

Your dreaming with Mase we could have been as high as 6th. Hello is anyone home. Are you still blaming Texas Tech’s field goal kickers warm ups as the reason we lost the biggest lead in Bowl Game history. Are you still blaming our fans in costing us a ton of New Year Bowl games, then you backed tracked when I proved you wrong.

I think the Masonties can get way more delusional in their thinking then the Brewsterites.

TNgopher says:

May 14th, 2008 at 8:20 am

This Loon man or woman is the crazy person in the corner talking to themselves, just ignore and keep about your business.

Recruiting says:

May 14th, 2008 at 8:22 am

GOPHER1 says:

May 14th, 2008 at 7:57 am

Bud check out the Big Ten preview on ESPN.com, SI.com or any other college source. Rich Rod himself has said this year is going to be a tough year and a losing record is very possible. His first year at WV he only won 3 games. I’m not saying Michigan will win 3 games but they will not win the 8 that you think they will.
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Now theres a thought! Why not come in and start screaming ROSE BOWL, ROSE BOWL, ROSE BOWL, RETURN TO GLORY, LETS PLAY TEXAS, LSU AND SOUTHERN CAL?? Why not tell everyone how great the D will be?? Tell the AA crowd the D is “going to play like their hair is on fire” and they will “rush the QB like a bunch of hungry dogs headed for the meathouse?” Why not call the special teams “SPECIAL FORCES?” Why be practical, RR, and say your first year “might be a tough one?” Is it because you ARE playing with a full deck??!

Jimbo says:

May 14th, 2008 at 8:28 am

OK, Looney Toons, here’s the bottom line.

If you have verifiable knowledge of NCAA violations in the University of Minnesota football program, you should notify the appropriate authorities. A scrupulous and honest man would do that. Sitting smugly in the background, still buying tickets, attending games, makes you as dirty as those perpetrating these violations, and perhaps the biggest hypocrite on the face of the earth.

On the other hand, if you don’t have verifiable information, quit with the innuendos. Not only is it incredibly annoying, it makes you appear even more ridiculous than you already are.

TNgopher says:

May 14th, 2008 at 9:49 am

Michigan’s situation is entirely different than the U’s.
They have a gigantic fan base (money) that will always be there and have some of the best nation-wide talent coming in year after year no matter what the win/loss record.
We have neither, this coach was brought in to put butts in the seats and talent on the field. So he wants to play LSU and Texas, maybe that’s because this program has no other national recongnition other than Barber and Maroney.
More people locally and nationally are talking about the Gophers now than in the past 15 or so years. Recruiting rankings may be silly, but they get people’s (and recruits) attention.

Recruiting says:

May 14th, 2008 at 11:05 am

More people locally and nationally are talking about the Gophers now than in the past 15 or so years. Recruiting rankings may be silly, but they get people’s (and recruits) attention.
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Don’t you mean laughing at as oppossed to talking about? Mr Kitchen Magician sold fewer tickets last year than in in 2006 despite all his theatrics and gymnastics and having NDSU and WI both here. We have a new stadium opening next season and season tickets are plentiful and being gobbled up by IA and WI fans more so than us! Ya……ROSE BOWL..ROSE BOWL..ROSE BOWL sure worked, didn’t it. Does he think people here are as stupid as he is? His own kid didn’t even fall for his bullshit!!!!!!!

Derek says:

May 14th, 2008 at 11:24 am

mnmike says:

May 13th, 2008 at 11:14 am

–God you are a moron, Toots! 0-9 = .000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Those Mason recruits are the ones holding up the GPA of the football team….give it a year or 2 of those CC and JUCO rejects!–

So Mason gets credit for the player’s living up to their educational duties, but Brewster takes the blame for the smart, but not so athletically talented player’s skills? Seems fair to me…
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PH is just used to JC’s who don’t do their homework. Wasn’t Brad Banks a JC?

Derek says:

May 14th, 2008 at 11:32 am

Bud says:

May 13th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

. He has not had the mass defections that the Gophers had and are still having one year later.

Would you be ferrering to the 2 of 8 in his “first” recruiting class? Should we really go dig up the numbers of defections the school has had in the past 12 years? I think as a blind Masonite, you wouldn’t like those answers. Why don’t you go dig up the numbers and then post them. I could tell you the numbers right now, but I want to see how far you try to sway reality.

D#mn, I’m almost tired of ripping your ignorant posts.

Derek says:

May 14th, 2008 at 11:33 am

TNgopher says:

May 14th, 2008 at 9:49 am

Michigan’s situation is entirely different than the U’s.
They have a gigantic fan base (money) that will always be there and have some of the best nation-wide talent coming in year after year no matter what the win/loss record.
We have neither, this coach was brought in to put butts in the seats and talent on the field. So he wants to play LSU and Texas, maybe that’s because this program has no other national recongnition other than Barber and Maroney.
More people locally and nationally are talking about the Gophers now than in the past 15 or so years. Recruiting rankings may be silly, but they get people’s (and recruits) attention.
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Michigan will be placed on probation at some point in the next 3-4 years and that will end Richardrod’s tenure with the Maize and Blue.

Derek says:

May 14th, 2008 at 11:38 am

Gold04 says:

May 13th, 2008 at 6:48 pm

Bud,

One expert wrote when you bring back a terrible defense and lose three fourths of your offense (Cupito, Speath, Payne), what do you expect? Last in the Big Ten.

Mase was not this BIG factor in predictions like you make him out to be.
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Phil Steele, who has predicted cfb the best over the past ten years, wrote the Gophers will finish last in 07 because of turnovers with an inexperienced freshman QB. Funny, what exactly happened last year? How was having a freshman QB Brewster’s fault? I guess we could have started a junior with no experience who tends to throw more ints than completetions…..

Once again Bud’s logic is hown to be illogical and ignorant.

Derek says:

May 14th, 2008 at 11:40 am

Bud says:

May 13th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

TX, Michigan will win 8 or more games this year because their coach knows how to not loose games. He has been a head coach and he understands that you can not turn the ball over and expect to win many games. He will play to his defenses strength and not put the players in a system they can not handle. Michigan lost a QB who played as a freshman but is not suited to RR offense and a starting O-lineman. He has not had the mass defections that the Gophers had and are still having one year later.
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Does 2 not equal 2 any longer? Bud is on spin city again.

Derek says:

May 14th, 2008 at 11:43 am

thewrenagain says:

May 13th, 2008 at 8:35 am

Maybe he is collecting a very nice check and doesn’t have to put up with the b.s. that U of M administrators, boosters, gi/gh members are so fond of trying to spew.

The administrators aer writing him some pretty nice checks and they did it to themselves.

Sit back and rake in that U of M General Fund $$$$$! Sounds like a pretty good gig to me! Oh yes, also do color on the Big Ten Network and pull down more coin from another job.

There are a lot of ways to do things. quite frankly, ANYONE who takes this U of M head coaching job goes through a meat grinder. Just ask bierman, Warmath, Stoll, Salem, hoax, (hoax couldn’t wait gto get the hell out of the U of M coaching job you people DO realize) Gutey, Wacker and Mason. It is a graveyard of college coaches…thanks to the various administrations over theses many, many decades. Hang the administrations in effigy! Curse their names. THEY are the football program and what has happened to the football program at the U of M. They have used and abused football coaches for a LONG time now. brewster will just be the latest one to be chewed up and spit out by the U of M administrative machine.
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Where have I heard this before????

I think we should add “0-8″ and “Brewster puposely lost last year” into the thread to make it complete.

Texas Gopher says:

May 14th, 2008 at 12:44 pm

Wren says—THEY are the football program and what has happened to the football program at the U of M. They have used and abused football coaches for a LONG time now. brewster will just be the latest one to be chewed up and spit out by the U of M administrative machine.

They, is also you wren.

david_allen_coe says:

May 14th, 2008 at 4:55 pm

Scooter says,

“I have to laugh at Recruiting. His posts are so full of factual errors that he has no credibility.”
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Yes, the stupid, filthy pornographer’s posts are a laugh a minute. But what is funnier, crudehogshittt’s lies and sewage or Bud’s “command” of the English language LOLOL? I tried to read a post by Bud and found every other word misspelled.

There is not a third grader alive who is not smarter than Bud, Crudinghog, or Wren combined.

david_allen_coe says:

May 14th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

“And did I hear this right? Because Mason didn’t come in with Rose Bowl aspirations, it was okay for him to go 32-48 in the Big Ten, but since Brewster actually had high goals for this program, he’s worse? So basically, as long as the coach expects to lose, it’s okay to suck.”
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You heard it exactly right. According to the pure, vitriolic haters like Bud, Loon, and Wrenbawlbaby the cardinal sin committed by Brewster from Day One was actually wanting to win and to dare to talk about winning.

david_allen_coe says:

May 14th, 2008 at 5:02 pm

“People aren’t saying Brewster is the greatest coach ever. They are not saying he is even a better coach then Mason.”
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But he clearly is a much better coach than Mason because 50-60% of the job is recruiting. Mason couldn’t do it and Brewster can.

david_allen_coe says:

May 14th, 2008 at 5:13 pm

” … so it is OK with you that our program is buying players?”
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Show some evidence, you slimy backstabbing coward.

PantherHawk says:

May 14th, 2008 at 7:18 pm

LMAO……it does my heart good to come here and see you silly cocksuckers make fools of yourselves! DumbAss Coe, your boy was 1-11 last season and he is a liar and a cheat. You are already seeing this come to bear with players leaving the “program.” 1-11………..1-11…….1-11…….VERY WEAK SPRING GAME! I don’t think you idiots will win a Big 10 game again this year. I called your 0-8 record last year too!!! Go to KFAN and look it up! I can’t wait for 11/22..a night game…….the ass I kick might be yours, DumbAss Coe!!!!! I see a swarm of 10’s of thousands of drunken black & gold warriors pillageing and burning Sewerapolis to the ground while a couple 100 goofer fans stand and watch in tears like in 2002!!!! LMFAO!

david_allen_coe says:

May 14th, 2008 at 9:22 pm

Sick, filthy pornographer.

littlebigboy says:

May 14th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

Pathetichawk sounds alot like wren again!

PantherHawk says:

May 15th, 2008 at 6:39 am

Looks like another little goofer thug gets off with just a slap on the wrist……or is that a needle track? LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.startribune.com/local/west/18933864.html?location_refer=Gophers

mnmike says:

May 15th, 2008 at 8:18 am

–the ass I kick might be yours, DumbAss Coe!!!!! –

Wow! Another internet toughguy. You really need to get a girlfriend/wife.

–a swarm of 10’s of thousands of drunken black & gold warriors pillageing and burning Sewerapolis to the ground while a couple 100 goofer fans stand and watch in tears like in 2002!!!! –

Yeah, right! It’s more likely that you corncob’s will be getting lost & drinving 50MPH in the leftlane on our freeways. After that, you’ll probably settle down for a what you Iowan’s call fine dining (Applebee’s). Enjoy your stay in the big city, woodtick.

Jimbo says:

May 15th, 2008 at 8:41 am

Wow, another irrelevant cut and paste by Pantherhogbreath. Impressive.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 8:55 am

Wonder why a hayseed Iowa hog farmer and amateur pornographer would cut and paste something about a hockey player when he has never seen a hockey game?

Bud says:

May 15th, 2008 at 8:59 am

All this BS and not much more. How about the Captains for the 2008 season. Offensively I do not see how it could not have been Weber and Decker. When you look at who might be the starters in 2008, those two guys would be the only sure things. Willie and Davis are two of the 5 returning starters on defense. I guess it could have been Small, Campbell or Hightower. A little tougher choice on defense I guess. Hope the guys can lead them to victory after victory in 2008.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 9:31 am

It is quite a tribute to Weber to be named Captain as a sophomore. His teammates must respect his leadership capabilities a lot.

Decker and Willie are obvious choices. And I like the Steve Davis pick but it could have been one of the other returning starters as well. Something tells me Davis is going to be very comfortable at LB this year and will have a big season.

Rescooter says:

May 15th, 2008 at 10:08 am

Here’s my take and I may get some disagreement here:

I think it’s a mistake to make Decker a captain. Granted, he’s an excellent player and has great leadership abilities. I can’t however get past the fact that he did not practice with the team this spring. What does that say to the rest of the team….that there are other sports more important than football??

I don’t blame the guy at all for going double duty….just don’t make him a captain.

Jimbo says:

May 15th, 2008 at 10:14 am

Sorry, Scooter, I can’t agree with that last post. Not choosing Decker to be a captain because he played baseball almost seems like a disciplinary move. He didn’t desert the team or anything like that. He got Brewster’s permission to play baseball, and I’m sure he had the support of nearly all (if not all) his fellow football team members.

Recruiting says:

May 15th, 2008 at 10:15 am

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 9:31 am

It is quite a tribute to Weber to be named Captain as a sophomore. His teammates must respect his leadership capabilities a lot.

Decker and Willie are obvious choices.
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Like there was much choice, Enis.

Recruiting says:

May 15th, 2008 at 10:17 am

Jimbo says:

May 15th, 2008 at 10:14 am

Sorry, Scooter, I can’t agree with that last post. Not choosing Decker to be a captain because he played baseball almost seems like a disciplinary move. He didn’t desert the team or anything like that. He got Brewster’s permission to play baseball, and I’m sure he had the support of nearly all (if not all) his fellow football team members.
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Are you “sure?” Have you been blowing the lockerroom like DAC??!!!!!!!

Recruiting says:

May 15th, 2008 at 10:18 am

Sorry, Jimbo, I meant the coach’s corner like DAC!!!!!!

Rescooter says:

May 15th, 2008 at 10:19 am

Jimbo, I see both sides of this. You are correct about the “seem like a disciplinary move”, but what can he expect? These guys put themselves out there for the spring game and he’s in Indiana with the baseball team. It just doesn’t seem right to me.

He’s a local guy, great attitude, great leadership, excellent player, but his allegiance is divided. It doesn’t sit well with me.

Jimbo says:

May 15th, 2008 at 10:32 am

Last time I looked, Scooter, John Anderson’s baseball team was part of the University of Minnesota’s athletic program. So don’t question his “allegiance.” His allegiance is to the University. It reminds me a little of Dave Winfield playing basketball back in the early 70’s. You make it sound like he was loafing by playing baseball, and further make it sound like going to Indiana is better than being here. I don’t believe playing baseball will have any detrimental impact to his football performance this fall. If anything, I’m sure the conditioning and competition was good for him.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 10:38 am

Scooter … Like Jumbo, I am in disagreement. Decker has earned his status and as an exceptional athlete he is contributing on two fronts to the university. He can’t be faulted for that as long as he got Brewster’s OK, which he did.

And granted, being in Indiana is not as bad as holding your nose in some desolate, stinking hog farm in Iowa with the ever-current prospect of needing to shoot a demented pornographer like Cruding, I’m sure Decker missed being at spring football too.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 10:39 am

And Scooter, hitting Big Ten fastballs and curves cannot hurt the kid’s ability to catch a football in traffic.

Rescooter says:

May 15th, 2008 at 10:44 am

I won’t push it anymore, and I will cheer for Decker as I do for the rest of the team.

One last point to ponder: would your opinion be the same if he got injured practicing or playing?

Yes DAC, at least he wasn’t in that pig stye of a state that sits just south of us. That would really suck.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 10:52 am

“One last point to ponder: would your opinion be the same if he got injured practicing or playing?”
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Consider one more point: the odds of him getting injured would have been greater at spring football than in playing baseball. But the injury factor should not even be considered since that is always part of all competitive sports.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 11:09 am

Scooter … Have you heard whether Iowa has picked their cell block leaders, ie. Captains yet? How many prisons would Ferentz need to go to to find the guys?

I understand his players are all applying for work release in order to show up on game day.

Oh the glory … 50 years ago it could have been CrudingPantyHoseHogWrenBawl walking out to the center of the field for the Hogs wearing prison stripes.

Derek says:

May 15th, 2008 at 11:39 am

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 11:09 am

Scooter … Have you heard whether Iowa has picked their cell block leaders, ie. Captains yet? How many prisons would Ferentz need to go to to find the guys?

I understand his players are all applying for work release in order to show up on game day.

Oh the glory … 50 years ago it could have been CrudingPantyHoseHogWrenBawl walking out to the center of the field for the Hogs wearing prison stripes.
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I’m waiting for the pigeons to bring Brad Banks back as an academic advisor.

Derek says:

May 15th, 2008 at 11:42 am

Rescooter says:

May 15th, 2008 at 10:19 am

Jimbo, I see both sides of this. You are correct about the “seem like a disciplinary move”, but what can he expect? These guys put themselves out there for the spring game and he’s in Indiana with the baseball team. It just doesn’t seem right to me.

He’s a local guy, great attitude, great leadership, excellent player, but his allegiance is divided. It doesn’t sit well with me.
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I see what you are saying, but I also disagree. Atleast it was an interesting topic unlike the usually babble PH/cruding, Wayne, or Racist/Mr no proof would discuss.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 12:03 pm

Derek … I am also intrigued with Weber being named a Captain, I assume by his peers. Is there any precedent for a Gopher sophomore being a Captain?

Cupito started as a soph but I don’t believe he was elevated to Captain until at least his junior year and possibly even not until his last year. Do you remember?

Texas Gopher says:

May 15th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

I still haven’t heard how the captains were selected. There are many ways to select a captain and I don’t know how Brewster does it. Did Weber’s teammates choose him??? The coaches? Head coach? How he was determined would be interesting to know. Personally, I hope the players voted for him.

Jimbo says:

May 15th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

Frankly, I thought the Weber choice was interesting, but apparently he is well thought of by his fellow team members. More power to him. I don’t know how many people have seen him on TV or met him, but he is one hell of a good kid, and carries himself extremely well. I’m particularly proud of him because of his Minnesota pedigree.

Don’t know the answer to you Cupito question, d_a(sp)_c.

Jimbo says:

May 15th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

TX, I’m quite sure the candidates are proposed by the coaches, then voted on by the team. I’m not 100% sure, though.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

Jumbo … I agree with Tex that if he was chosen by his peers rather than the coaching staff that would say volumes.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 1:04 pm

Hey Jumbo … Side note: I took a big step toward normalcy this week with a three-day business trip to Toronto. Felt good to get back into the groove.

Jimbo says:

May 15th, 2008 at 1:08 pm

Good deal, d_a(sp)_c. And I’m glad to see it hasn’t mitigated your distaste for the Crudeboys, Looneys, Wrens, etc. of the world!

Jimbo says:

May 15th, 2008 at 1:59 pm

From Gopher Sports.com:

University of Minnesota head football coach Tim Brewster announced the 2008 Gopher captains Monday. The captains were chosen by a vote of the team.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 2:18 pm

“The captains were chosen by a vote of the team.”
____________

Great. That’s the way it should be and that tells us a lot about Weber’s stature as a leader among his peers.

And they’re spot on about Willie too. Any guy who can take three Gopher haters to the parking lot at once is a Captain for sure.

Recruiting says:

May 15th, 2008 at 2:29 pm

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 2:18 pm

“The captains were chosen by a vote of the team.”
____________

Great. That’s the way it should be and that tells us a lot about Weber’s stature as a leader among his peers.

And they’re spot on about Willie too. Any guy who can take three Gopher haters to the parking lot at once is a Captain for sure.
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Ummmm……it was 2 and they are about 70 years old.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

Headline today ….

“Woodbury man charged with starting fire on Northwest Airlines flight”
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Cruding, Wrenbawls, or LewNeetik?

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

Were you there shiiteforbrains?

Rescooter says:

May 15th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

“From Gopher Sports.com:

University of Minnesota head football coach Tim Brewster announced the 2008 Gopher captains Monday. The captains were chosen by a vote of the team.”

Jeez Jimbo - remind me to never get in a debate with you again. You confuse the issue with facts. What’s up with that!!

Jimbo says:

May 15th, 2008 at 2:54 pm

Hey, Scooter, you made a decent point. I didn’t post the blurb from gophersports.com to refute you, I was doing it to help out Texas Gopher and d_a(sp)_c.

Jimbo says:

May 15th, 2008 at 2:56 pm

But consider yourself refuted, Scooter! :)

Rescooter says:

May 15th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

LOL!

Jimbo - 1
Rescooter - 0

NYC Gopher Fan says:

May 15th, 2008 at 3:03 pm

Weber being named captain by his teammates is a good sign for the offense this coming season. Shows leadership skills and the team must like/respect him.

Jimbo says:

May 15th, 2008 at 3:08 pm

Agreed, NYC! I’m hoping for great things from him this year. If he stays healthy and cuts way back on his INTs, he will be a serious force.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

“LOL!

Jimbo - 1
Rescooter - 0″
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Sorry, Scooter, but ever since I named him Jumbo he has special “size” priviledges. One point for him means,

Jumbo - 1.5
Scooter - 0

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

NYC … Yes, it shows the team respects Weber’s leadership qualities. But a good sign for offense would be if he can complete some passes this year.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

Jumbo says,

” If he stays healthy and cuts way back on his INTs, he will be a serious force.”
_________

I agree but you’ve got some big ‘ifs’ in there. I would add he will be a serious force also if they move him to safety or possibly running back. Either way, we need him on the field. He’s a darn tough football player.

NYC Gopher Fan says:

May 15th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

And I hope to God that Brewster can coach this talent he’s acquired to some Big Ten wins. A couple of weekends back flew home to a family wedding and when we were flying out of Mpls we flew over the Gopher football stadium. Very exciting to see.

Rescooter says:

May 15th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

Sorry, Scooter, but ever since I named him Jumbo he has special “size” priviledges. One point for him means,

Jumbo - 1.5
Scooter - 0
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I guess we could say that he’s large and in charge. I’m thinking with his new size upgrade, he won’t have to worry about lakesbison’s 255′ daughter stalking him at games.

Jimbo says:

May 15th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

As a result of considerable effort, weight training and illegal steroids, I have bulked up to 152 lbs. Bring on the big bison woman!

The Loon says:

May 15th, 2008 at 4:20 pm

mnmike and Jimbo, if I had verifiable proof of Brewster cheating or Barry Bonds cheating I would take it to the legal authorities. I do not. Taking football recruiting irregularities to Maturi would be like taking a hard run at a wall. His job is “plausible deniability”. If he knows about cheating what is HE going to do? “Lack of institutional control” means penalties and the AD is gone.

My season tickets will be gone if Maturi is extended past 2009.

nyc gopher fan says:

May 15th, 2008 at 4:36 pm

Loon: so why do you continue to shoot yourself in the foot by making “unverifiable” accusations?

The Loon says:

May 15th, 2008 at 5:43 pm

because it is true and that is very important when cheating is involved. I am willing to take the heat. “Peer” approval of my views is not something I care about. My view of history is that the truth is seldom popular.

By the way NYC, were you shocked by the Coon Rapids situation? As you could guess, I would have been shocked if it had not turned out the way it has. True, but unpopular.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 5:48 pm

Scooter says,

“I’m thinking with his new size upgrade, he won’t have to worry about lakesbison’s 255′ daughter stalking him at games.”
______________

Well said. Jumbo is the equivalent of a Big Mac Supersize meal.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 5:51 pm

Jumbo exclaims,

“I have bulked up to 152 lbs.”
________

Willie V has nothing on you, Jumbo. You could take three of the Big Bison women out to the parking lot at a time and throw in a couple of gutless pantywaiste Cruding pantyhoses too.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 5:53 pm

The gutless backstabbing moron says,

” … if I had verifiable proof of Brewster cheating or Barry Bonds cheating I would take it to the legal authorities. I do not.”
_________

As we all know, you have nothing. You are a gutless sleazebag slanderer. STFU.

Bud says:

May 15th, 2008 at 6:34 pm

I start a reasonable and you guys let the other crap seep back into the discussion. Stay on point and forget about the others. I assume that if Re. would have known about the players selecting the captains then he would not have made his statement? If you remember when Decker committed to the Gophers he was given the permission play both sports. He was an outstanding three sport athlete in high school. As for the captain question Cupito was not a captain his Soph. year but I believe Eslinger was. He was an All Big Ten performer three years in a row.

Recruiting says:

May 15th, 2008 at 6:57 pm

nyc gopher fan says:

May 15th, 2008 at 4:36 pm

Loon: so why do you continue to shoot yourself in the foot by making “unverifiable” accusations?
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Thought you would have been on a plane to CA by now to get hitched and shot in the ass all night on your honeymoon? Just curious…..in a fag wedding, how do you decide who carries who over the threshold?

Bud says:

May 15th, 2008 at 7:02 pm

Some of my clients have made some interesting points and given me pause to think about the up coming season. I was just assuming that things woild be better in 2008 but I have had some interesting things pointed out to me. Offensively I was figuring that we would be OKay but my clients don’t think so. We have one returning WR (Decker). Last year we had Decker and Ernie. In the o-line we had Brink, Shidell & Tavale returning. This year we have Alford w/ 4 starts and if Tavale did win back his position we have Ned playing LG. If not Ned then it is Burris. The rest of the o-line will be rookies. We have no depth at RB and Bennett is not durable. We do have a second year starter at QB. What do you think, better or worse? On Defense we lost 4 starters in the secondary. We have one JC player that was here for spring ball and by all accounts he should be able to fill Dom’s shoes. The rest of the secoundary has not arrived on campus yet and if they end up playing with the players from the spring we are in trouble. We lost 2 starting LBers. Hightower returns with Triplett and Manion, I think we should be as good or better and my clients agree. I know I did not mention S. Davis but he still looks like a duck out of water to me and my clients tell me that he could be used in nickel to rush the QB and we all know that is what he does best. Up Front we had Willie and Campbell with a year under their belt and G. Brown and Small. With the others that come in this fall there should be plenty of depth. The HUGE question is the secondary. The defense looks like it is in better shape than the offense. Not what I had been thinking until it was laid out to me in their terms. We also thought that our kicking game was fine until we saw the spring game. Now we want to fire the kicker and Kucek just had a off day. DAC, if you think the gun snaps throw the QB off, McGarry graduating could be a big lose. Mort was not spot on with his snaps in the game. What do you posters think?

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

Cruding … Great post, pantyhose. Maybe Iowa will now legalize marriage with farm animals and make you an honest woman.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

Bud … Whoever your “clients” are, I think their advice to you is probably worth as much as your advice to them.

Brinkhaus outright ruined or negatively affected more than half the offensive plays. I don’t think Mort or anyone else long snapping will kill us that much.

And please explain how Bennett “is not durable”. Who do you think was out there at running back when Thomas was in the hospital and Pinnix could barely walk?

Your “clients” are probably your “clients” because you think alike. All negative, all day. You guys must have some real exciting business. ROTFLMAO!!!

nyc gopher fan says:

May 15th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

Loon: If it is true, as you say, why can’t you give us any information to back it up?

nyc gopher fan says:

May 15th, 2008 at 8:13 pm

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

Cruding … Great post, pantyhose. Maybe Iowa will now legalize marriage with farm animals and make you an honest woman.

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DAC: Instead of an honest woman, don’t you think it would be a “total boar/bore?”

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 8:14 pm

Bud was so thrilled his “clients” clued him in that Bennett isn’t durable and that long snapper will be our biggest problem this year that he has now issued an official sell advisory on dot.coms. Way to take care of your “clients”, Buddy.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nyc gopher fan says:

May 15th, 2008 at 8:31 pm

Recruiting says:

May 15th, 2008 at 6:57 pm

Just curious…..in a fag wedding, how do you decide who carries who over the threshold?

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Just curious…how do you know which nostril is the last one you ate out of?

nyc gopher fan says:

May 15th, 2008 at 8:34 pm

I don’t know, I think Bud’s last post was reasonable. I don’t know why he gets the bad rap he does on here. He’s reporting what he saw at the Spring game and isn’t that the sort of information we’re looking for here and I can’t remember if Bennett was hurt last season or not, but since Weber was the leading rusher on the team, things seem a bit lean in the running back situation I didn’t find his last post negative.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 8:39 pm

NYC … If you can’t recall if Bennett was hurt last season or not, would it perhaps make sense to read more and post less?

Bud knows as much about the Gophers as ObamessiahOprah does.

nyc gopher fan says:

May 15th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

dac_please no political references

The Loon says:

May 15th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

dac, you really are a pig with your constant name calling. Try to be an adult and just stick to the issues.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 9:24 pm

Here’s an issue we can stick with, Louie. You are a cowardly sleazebag and slimeball for accusing coaches of paying players with no evidence to support it. Let’s stick with that, dirtbag.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 9:31 pm

NYC … Here are some facts that your buddy ObamessiahOprah doesn’t know because he doesn’t follow the Gophers other than to trash the players and program.

Bennett started the season three deep on the chart behind Pinnix and Thomas. In the first three non-conference games he had a grand total of six carries.

But then Pinnix started hobbling with the turf toe that got worse each week. And later Thomas was lost for the season.

Bennet played eight of the last nine games including seven of the Big Ten games. In those eight games he carried 101 times for 401 yards, including a season high of 106 yards in 20 carries in the Big House against the mighty Michigan defense. He had a great season for an 18-year-old true freshman.

During those same last nine games, Pinnix carried 34 times for 177 yards and Weber carried 104 times for 423 yards. Thomas had 40 carries for 215 yards for the whole season.

Now do you see how stupid Bud is to say somebody told him Bennett is not durable and he believes it? And you believe him?

The Loon says:

May 15th, 2008 at 9:31 pm

Bud, I can not recall a year where so many rookies are expected to carry the team. As a veteran fan, you know what I and others know. Rookies, as a group, can not be counted on to win Big Ten games. One might be a top player, but that is both rare and limited to certain positions.

I have no idea why, other than emotions, any one would believe we are going to be any sort of middle Big Ten team. No set O line, no (zero point zero) experience in the secondary. No proven defensive tackles. No proven coaching. And a large number of multi year starters gone.

I will be happy if we beat NIU and see what is possible after that. Given that the NCAA does not come in and carry our whole staff off to prison, I have no confidence in what the near future looks like until we see some real football games played.

david_allen_coe says:

May 15th, 2008 at 9:45 pm

SF dirtbag sleazy con artist.

nyc gopher fan says:

May 16th, 2008 at 5:19 am

I didn’t say I believed Bud or not. I said that I didn’t find what he wrote to be negative. I didn’t have the information to believe one way or the other. I had to pack for a weekend trip and get to bed. And for the record Obama was a basketball player not a cheerleader like your guy.

Texas Gopher says:

May 16th, 2008 at 6:36 am

Bud–I think you raised some good points. I have stated my top concern is RB depth. I like Bennett a lot but we are very thin there. The situation is going to be a real test/challenge for the coaching staff. Can they get a new influx of talent to mesh with the returners in a short period of time?? And I am not just talking X/s and O’s, I mean as a team also. I see Brewster as a uniter and hope his asst. coaches can do their jobs. Again, that opener is huge in terms of morale/momentum/etc.

Texas Gopher says:

May 16th, 2008 at 6:41 am

Loon—the reason you “can’t remember a year where so many rookies were expected to carry the team” is bc Mason checked out several years ago. I hate to bring that slacker up again, but that SOB obviously did not care about the Gopher FB program.

Texas Gopher says:

May 16th, 2008 at 6:46 am

NYC v. DAC—-you guys are opening a can of worms with your political swipes.

Recruiting says:

May 16th, 2008 at 6:51 am

nyc gopher fan says:

May 16th, 2008 at 5:19 am

I didn’t say I believed Bud or not. I said that I didn’t find what he wrote to be negative. I didn’t have the information to believe one way or the other. I had to pack for a weekend trip and get to bed. And for the record Obama was a basketball player not a cheerleader like your guy.
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nyc, you should know better than anyone DAC hates everyone who does not slip on the maroon and gold blinders, and kneel before almighty brewster, unzip his fly and ask,”how many times today, coach.”

PS:

Obamajamma is a dumb fag like you!

Texas Gopher says:

May 16th, 2008 at 6:58 am

Recruiting—I have tried not to respond to your idiocy, but you are a classic homophobe who is repressing your real desire. Just come out of the closet, move on, and try and talk football here.

Rescooter says:

May 16th, 2008 at 7:06 am

NYC and DAC: Both of you have my respect. Please don’t get started down the political road. Nothing will get solved and it will ruin the board.

As you can see, Recruiting is jumping on the political bait opportunity. That should tell you something.

Great pictures of the stadium on gophersports.com. I’ve got them as a screensaver!

Bud says:

May 16th, 2008 at 7:29 am

DAC, if you are really recovering from major surgery then you should take this advice. If all those words are swirling around in your head, then the healing process is being slowed. You could do much better with staying out of the gutter and thinking pure thoughts. Just some advice that you probably will not take. Bennett did go down in one of the non-league games and he did not finish the NW game because of an ankle sprain down on the goal line. You act like I said he is not a good player and that is not what I said. He did fumble in the spring game and limped off the field never to return in the spring game. Maybe that is what my clients are referring too. If the posts upset you so much maybe you should stay off for awhile until you are healed.

david_allen_coe says:

May 16th, 2008 at 7:31 am

Tex … Don’t worry so much about the running backs. We have several and they will be serviceable if not great. Bennett might be great.

Strap on your helmet and play defense, Tex. That is where we will win or lose. And on offense, worry about finding a quarterback who can complete short passes to keep drives going.

david_allen_coe says:

May 16th, 2008 at 7:38 am

Scooter says,

“Nothing will get solved and it will ruin the board.”
_________________

OK, I will heed your wishes although I am slightly confused how anything I or NYC could say would “ruin” a board polluted by backstabbers, liars, and purveyors of misinformation and pornography.

david_allen_coe says:

May 16th, 2008 at 7:42 am

Bud … I am not in the gutter. That would be you and your friends who have no goal here other than undermining Gopher football. That is the gutter.

In your never-ending attempt to trash our players you said Bennett was “not durable”. The fact is he was the only running back we could count on most of the year. If he is not durable, what would you say about Thomas and Pinnix?

Your comment is just another attempt at misinformation to drag down the program.

If you want me to be civil to you, quit stabbing our players and coaches in the back.

Jimbo says:

May 16th, 2008 at 7:45 am

The Loon says:

May 15th, 2008 at 4:20 pm

mnmike and Jimbo, if I had verifiable proof of Brewster cheating or Barry Bonds cheating I would take it to the legal authorities. I do not. Taking football recruiting irregularities to Maturi would be like taking a hard run at a wall. His job is “plausible deniability”. If he knows about cheating what is HE going to do? “Lack of institutional control” means penalties and the AD is gone.

My season tickets will be gone if Maturi is extended past 2009.

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Let’s hope Maturi’s contract is extended, if for nothing else, to get this scumbag away from the program.

Bud says:

May 16th, 2008 at 8:01 am

Lets hope that Bennetts Soph. year can live up to the likes of the top five Soph. all time,T. Redmon 2000,1,368 yds., L. Maroney 2004,1,348 yds., T. Jackson 2002, 1,317 yds., MBIII 2003, 1,196yds., some of those names are not house hold words in MN. Great for an 18 year old might be a little strong, solid would be the word most would use.

Bud says:

May 16th, 2008 at 8:04 am

I knew you could not refrain from coming after me and taking my advice would have been out of the question. I do hope you get better.

david_allen_coe says:

May 16th, 2008 at 8:28 am

Bud … Perhaps I could have phrased that more precisely. By “great” I meant within the framework of the spread. We are not going to have running backs carry the load like the guys you mentioned in our system. We don’t have the offensive line for it either.

Bennett can be very good as an offset to the QB throwing to receivers on short routes. If Weber or whoever plays QB improves over where Weber was last year, then Bennett could be much better too.

david_allen_coe says:

May 16th, 2008 at 8:31 am

Bud … Take your advice? Who on God’s green earth would take your advice about anything?

Advice on what? How to fill a bicycle tire? How to train a rabbit? Just exactly what is your area of expertise?

You remind me a lot of an old fella who many years ago offered me advice on how to operate a chain saw. I noticed he had one arm missing from the elbow on down and three fingers gone on his ‘good’ hand. I declined his advice too.

The Loon says:

May 16th, 2008 at 8:50 am

No Tex, I am not going to let that slam of Mason go by.

Our football program has been in a constant state of flux now for several years. Recruiting has been hurt by the constant state of the head coach having no future here. Brewster is the first coach we have had in five years who has a contract that would carry him deep into the future of the players he is trying to recruit. This has been a flat out stupid policy pursued by Joel Maturi.

I have been saying this same thing for years. This is NOT Ohio State where anyone can come in to coach and just reload and have a killer team. Here, we really need, at the very least, long term stability, the new stadium, a middle Big Ten budget, a legal climate of no scandals and a veteran coach who has a national reputation.

Instead we have a coach with no reputation other than as a “Zook like recruiter”.

You guys got what you wanted, Mason out. He did really help us to get the new stadium. As Eye and others have correctly pointed out, we are now back into the cycle of changing coaches every few years, constantly “building” towards some future team that will win all our games.

As I have repeatedly pointed out, the spread is not working here with the players who are left from a ball control offense. I will not allow any unchallenged remarks, to the effect of yours, that Mason or anyone else is responsible for the offense YOU wanted that is not working here with the players Brewster inherited.

Brewster is the only head coach we have now and it is HIS responsibility to win here with the reality HE has here. That he has not won here is HIS fault, HIS plan, HIS changes, HIS mistakes.

You guys have a full force mess on your hands now for years to come. You were warned by me and others. You wanted the right to make changes and you dragged it out for years. Now YOU have what YOU wanted.

The reality was always facing you, if “anyone could easily do better than Mason” that person would be held to that standard. Now go out there and start to win some football games without the NCAA sending your guys to prison.

You might also thank some of us veterans for getting you the new stadium. Which, I might add, you are well on your way to screwing up by starting off with a losing team. (I warned you about that danger as well.)

Go to it Tex, win those games. This is what YOU wanted. With the control, comes the RESPONSIBILITY.

Jimbo says:

May 16th, 2008 at 9:03 am

Looney Toons, I’m not a lawyer, but I’m quite sure the NCAA does not have the juristiction to send anyone to prison.

Bud says:

May 16th, 2008 at 9:11 am

Profanity is the crutch of a poor communicator. The only thing you hold onto DAC is your name calling and back handed jokes, which only you think are funny. Enjoy your life. I was only trying to help you out if you indeed had brain surgery. You are the expert on all things in the spread so I hope you are correct in your evaluation.

littlebigboy says:

May 16th, 2008 at 9:25 am

Running back is the one position on the team that freshman can come in and make an immediate impact. Wether they will or not is another question. But it is the one position that pure talent can make an impact right away. If we can get some decent line play Loon could carry the ball?????????????

Rescooter says:

May 16th, 2008 at 9:40 am

In the spread, the running back is not as much of a factor. Play execution is the key. There are very few straight up power runs…most of the running game is misdirectional. You need a mobile quarterback who usually ends up getting a fair share of the yards.

Being thin at experience in the running back position is not as much of a factor. The quarterback on the other had would be a real problem.

NYC Gopher Fan says:

May 16th, 2008 at 9:50 am

This ain’t no place for politics or religion, unless the religion is Gopher football. I took his bait and woke up on the wrong side of the bed and I will make every effort to keep politics outta here.

Side note: MnMike, you’re the UVA grad, right? going to UVA this weekend, any recommendations on what to see?

Cheers

david_allen_coe says:

May 16th, 2008 at 10:01 am

Loon’s standup comedy act contains,

“the spread is not working here with the players who are left from a ball control offense.”
_________________

Hilarious, Louie. Like the guys Mason left could run a ball control offense any better than the spread? That’s hilarious.

Face it, pal. MAC talent is MAC talent. Period. Doesn’t matter what offense you are trying to run with guys who don’t belong in the Big Ten.

Brewster’s job is to bring in talent that can play in our conference. He is off to a great start on that.

david_allen_coe says:

May 16th, 2008 at 10:03 am

Bud … Thanks again for your good wishes. But let me assure you that nothing helps me mend more than ridiculing the lies and misinformation put on this board by you, Wren, and Loon. That is great therapy.

david_allen_coe says:

May 16th, 2008 at 10:08 am

Littlebig says,

“If we can get some decent line play Loon could carry the ball?????????????”
__________

Maybe … until the NCAA finds out the rotten little thief stole the ball from a sporting goods store and puts him in prison where he belongs.

But on a more serious note, the beauty of the spread is that the O line does not need to be overpowering as in a ball control offense. Backs are working more in space and the defense cannot pack the box (if you have a good quarterback who can hit his receivers on short slants and outs).

All the concern about the offense and running backs and offensive line actually comes down to the guy playing quarterback in the spread. He either makes it work or fail.

Bud says:

May 16th, 2008 at 10:36 am

Florida runs the spread, correct? Why does Coach Meyer say that they did not win enough games last year because of their running back situation? Didn’t they have the Hiesman winner at QB? Some of you guys just keep running in circles trying to pretend that everything is going to be great. If Florida thinks it is important to have a good running back with a QB that won the Hiesman, then I would think it would be important for the Gophers to think likewise.

david_allen_coe says:

May 16th, 2008 at 10:44 am

Bud … Try to wake up. Everybody in the world thinks it’s a good idea to have a good running back. Everybody thinks its a good idea to have a good punter too.

And everybody agrees with Coach Meyer that winning more games is a good idea.

You are the one running in circles with your constant yapping and ankle biting.

Rescooter says:

May 16th, 2008 at 10:46 am

Florida went 9-4 last year (5-3 SEC).

I’ll accept a 9-4 season next year.

Derek says:

May 16th, 2008 at 11:41 am

The Loon says:

May 15th, 2008 at 4:20 pm

mnmike and Jimbo, if I had verifiable proof of Brewster cheating or Barry Bonds cheating I would take it to the legal authorities. I do not. Taking football recruiting irregularities to Maturi would be like taking a hard run at a wall. His job is “plausible deniability”. If he knows about cheating what is HE going to do? “Lack of institutional control” means penalties and the AD is gone.

My season tickets will be gone if Maturi is extended past 2009.
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lmao. You don’t have tickets, do we need to rehash this again for the 1,000th time?

Derek says:

May 16th, 2008 at 11:48 am

nyc gopher fan says:

May 15th, 2008 at 8:34 pm

I don’t know, I think Bud’s last post was reasonable. I don’t know why he gets the bad rap he does on here. He’s reporting what he saw at the Spring game and isn’t that the sort of information we’re looking for here and I can’t remember if Bennett was hurt last season or not, but since Weber was the leading rusher on the team, things seem a bit lean in the running back situation I didn’t find his last post negative.
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That post was fine. The problem is his past outright lies and complete misinformation he presented as facts. Do you remember when he claimed only 4K or less attneded the spring game and that only 1,700 or so were not part of the band or players family? Complete flat out lie. If the guy continues to post as he did in the post referenced above, the opinion of him will change.

mnmike says:

May 16th, 2008 at 11:53 am

NYC,

Yep I’m a UVA Grad, class of ‘95.

You’ll enjoy the Charlottesville area. Aside from the obvious attractions in UVA and Monticello (Jefferson’s home), I would visit the following:

- Skyline Drive - (if you’re a car nut like me, drive at least a part of this route through the Blue Ridge Range. There’s a lot of challenging corners & great vistas.

- Downtown Mall - most of the great bars/restaurants/bookstores/galleries are on Main. Be sure to hit the Downtown Grill (great food/wine list) & South Street Brewery if you’re into microbrews.

- UVA School of Architecture - they really have some great exhibits, if that’s of interest.

- The Corner - the college part of town with a few decent bars & sandwich shops. Since I’m not into the college scene anymore (I’m 37), I pretty much make this a day trip

Hope this helps. Have fun.

Derek says:

May 16th, 2008 at 11:54 am

Bud says:

May 15th, 2008 at 7:02 pm

Some of my clients have made some interesting points and given me pause to think about the up coming season. I was just assuming that things woild be better in 2008 but I have had some interesting things pointed out to me. Offensively I was figuring that we would be OKay but my clients don’t think so. We have one returning WR (Decker). Last year we had Decker and Ernie. In the o-line we had Brink, Shidell & Tavale returning. This year we have Alford w/ 4 starts and if Tavale did win back his position we have Ned playing LG. If not Ned then it is Burris. The rest of the o-line will be rookies. We have no depth at RB and Bennett is not durable. We do have a second year starter at QB. What do you think, better or worse? On Defense we lost 4 starters in the secondary. We have one JC player that was here for spring ball and by all accounts he should be able to fill Dom’s shoes. The rest of the secoundary has not arrived on campus yet and if they end up playing with the players from the spring we are in trouble. We lost 2 starting LBers. Hightower returns with Triplett and Manion, I think we should be as good or better and my clients agree. I know I did not mention S. Davis but he still looks like a duck out of water to me and my clients tell me that he could be used in nickel to rush the QB and we all know that is what he does best. Up Front we had Willie and Campbell with a year under their belt and G. Brown and Small. With the others that come in this fall there should be plenty of depth. The HUGE question is the secondary. The defense looks like it is in better shape than the offense. Not what I had been thinking until it was laid out to me in their terms. We also thought that our kicking game was fine until we saw the spring game. Now we want to fire the kicker and Kucek just had a off day. DAC, if you think the gun snaps throw the QB off, McGarry graduating could be a big lose. Mort was not spot on with his snaps in the game. What do you posters think?
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Offensively, I think we’ll be a bit better although I’m worried about the Oline. It looks shaky early to me. We’ll have alot more depth at RB in the fall and RB is one position where freshmen can play early.
The problem on offense last year was TO’s, they moved the ball fine.

I think the defense will be a bit better. Most of the guys will be green and will need some pt. I really like Brock at safety thus far, I believe he will be as good as Barber. He certainly looks faster. I would like to see more of Sharpe at LB, he looks solid. I also want to see more of Tate. I agree Davis looks out of place, I still wish we had him in the DE rotation.

The defense could be alot better if WVD is healthy and Henderson has recovered. A pass rush could make this an average defense.

All of that said, we’re probably not bowling until 2009. Then again, I’m a glass half empty kind of guy.

Derek says:

May 16th, 2008 at 11:58 am

Bud says:

May 16th, 2008 at 10:36 am

Florida runs the spread, correct? Why does Coach Meyer say that they did not win enough games last year because of their running back situation? Didn’t they have the Hiesman winner at QB? Some of you guys just keep running in circles trying to pretend that everything is going to be great. If Florida thinks it is important to have a good running back with a QB that won the Hiesman, then I would think it would be important for the Gophers to think likewise.
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Isn’t it obvious that everyone wants a solid RB? Isn’t that what they have been trying to do in recruiting? Wilhite could be your power back. Lipscomb could be a maroney type guy or atleast is projected to have that kind of talent. Whaley could be a scat/3rd down back.

Derek says:

May 16th, 2008 at 12:00 pm

The Loon says:

May 16th, 2008 at 8:50 am

You might also thank some of us veterans for getting you the new stadium. Which, I might add, you are well on your way to screwing up by starting off with a losing team.
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This coming froma guy with no tickets who was b1tching about outdoor games being cold. You can’t make this stuff up.

NYC Gopher Fan says:

May 16th, 2008 at 12:19 pm

thanks mnmike for the info much appreciated. Looking forward to seeing TJefferson architecture

Texas Gopher says:

May 16th, 2008 at 12:28 pm

Loon—how anyone can defend and miss Mason is beyond me. Go ahead and keep yearning for the good old days of mediocrity. I will take my chances with something better.

Jimbo says:

May 16th, 2008 at 12:52 pm

I really get tired of the Mason talk. Unfortunately, it’s generally the pro-Brewster guys that bring him up, hoping (and succeeding!) to elicit reactions from Looney Toons, Wren and/or Bud. Last I checked, Mason was fired in January, 2007, and I believe that Maturi checked the “Do not rehire” box on his exit interview form.

Come on, guys/girls, let’s not keep rehashing the same BS over and over. That’s wren’s job.

thewrenagain says:

May 16th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

You dudes and dudettes are the ones that bring Mason up. So look at yourself jimbo. Any time you gi/gh/booster-types want to bring Mason up…go right ahead. My take is that he was a failed, fired coach just like every coach since Bierman has been.

My take is also that brewster is not worth a hill of beans and will be fired as well. You people can push him all you want, but the REAL problem lise in the administration. They were not serious about hiring a coach who could succeed. However, until the administration of the U of M starts getting serious about making the U what it used to be prior to the 1970’s and 1980’s the administration needs to be let out to pasture. The U needs someone like Prexy Y to lead them.

So, jimbo, you can talk all you want out of that 152 pound mouth of yours, and any time you and your kind start the Mason talk and the hyoped up,trash-mouthed name calling that you do so often, I will be more than happy to remind you about the failure of the administrations and any and every coach who does not win many, many Big Ten Football games. You and your kind are the big b.s. dudes and dudettes. That is a fact. The only thing that matters will be continuing rising graduation rates, running a clean program AND winning a LOT of Big Ten Football games. This gm/recruiter has a chance to start doing that in 2008. Will he get it done?

Texas Gopher says:

May 16th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

Jimbo—loon wanted to know why we are playing so many “rookies” and I gave him the answer.

Jimbo says:

May 16th, 2008 at 1:44 pm

wren, you are so stupid you don’t even deserve a response.

Please, please, start following another team. We don’t need people like you.

thewrenagain says:

May 16th, 2008 at 4:39 pm

Typical of jimbo the 152 pound dripping wet mouth to respond, as he always does. He is powerless in his need to call others names and to try to issue what he considers to be an insult.

jimbo knows a lot about stupidity. He is the essence of stupidity as he hypes the unknown and doesn’t have the common sense to admit that brewster’s new suit and the uniform changes really leave brewster totally exposed as an inecperienced game day coach. brewster stands exposed and at the mercy of Big Ten Coaches on Game Day Saturday as his 2007 Big Ten record indicates and he believes a recruiting class will fool all of the brewsterites into singing his praises. And, do you know what? He is right.

He can continue to throw away seasons and these kool-aid drinkers will say all is well…even if he wins very few Big Ten Football games. However, it won’t sit well with the general public. And, how stupid does he think the high school football coaches are? It takes a LOT of Big Ten wins to get real respect.

So, jimbo, you really were stupid to provide a response that you said I didn’t deserve.

I’ve been a Gopher Football Fan for a LONG time. Being a brewsterite or a cheerleader for brewster is not something I have to do to be a fan.

Who are you to speak for the “we” that you mention? Is the “we” the gi/gh/booster-club crowd? If so, they really don’t matter much to me.

Personally, I will respond to what I see during Big Ten Football Games in 2008 and beyond. I did the same thing for the 2007 season. 0-8 in the big Ten. That really did hurt.

The Loon says:

May 16th, 2008 at 4:58 pm

Derek, what is this claim of yours that I do not have tickets and did not want an outdoor stadium?

Rescooter says:

May 17th, 2008 at 6:24 am

From FoxSports:

Motor City Bowl

Dec. 26 / 7:30 p.m. ET, Detroit, ESPN
Tie-Ins: Big Ten No. 7 vs. MAC
Way-Too-Early Projection: Northwestern vs. Western Michigan
Top 5 Others Considered: 1) Minnesota, 2) Miami of Ohio, 3) Central Michigan, 4) Purdue, 5) Iowa

It looks like other sports writers are seeing potential for the Gophers this year. After last year, I’ll take the Motor City Bowl anyday.

Rescooter says:

May 17th, 2008 at 6:35 am

Scout.com is even more optimistic:

Minnesota
Realistic best case record with this schedule: 8-4
Barring total disaster worst case record: 4-8
Realistic record: 6-6

Considering the problems last year against MAC teams and the losses to North Dakota State and Florida Atlantic, Minnesota can’t take anything for granted, but starting off with a non-conference schedule against Northern Illinois, at Bowling Green, Montana State and Florida Atlantic doesn’t get too much easier. Payback’s a bear with three road games in the first four Big Ten dates going to Ohio State, Illinois and Purdue. The fourth Big Ten road trip is to Wisconsin, and that comes after facing Michigan. Getting Indiana and Northwestern at home should bring at least one conference win, while the Gopher fans have to make sure the regular-season finale against Iowa doesn’t turn into a Hawkeye home game. Missing Michigan State and Penn State should help.

Aug. 30 Northern Illinois
Sept. 6 at Bowling Green
Sept. 13 Montana State
Sept. 20 Florida Atlantic
Sept. 27 at Ohio State
Oct. 4 Indiana
Oct. 11 at Illinois
Oct. 18 OPEN DATE
Oct. 25 at Purdue
Nov. 1 Northwestern
Nov. 8 Michigan
Nov. 15 at Wisconsin

Recruiting says:

May 17th, 2008 at 7:59 am

Rescooter says:

May 17th, 2008 at 6:24 am

From FoxSports:

Motor City Bowl

Dec. 26 / 7:30 p.m. ET, Detroit, ESPN
Tie-Ins: Big Ten No. 7 vs. MAC
Way-Too-Early Projection: Northwestern vs. Western Michigan
Top 5 Others Considered: 1) Minnesota, 2) Miami of Ohio, 3) Central Michigan, 4) Purdue, 5) Iowa

It looks like other sports writers are seeing potential for the Gophers this year. After last year, I’ll take the Motor City Bowl anyday
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You would, LOSER…………….

Bud says:

May 17th, 2008 at 10:30 am

Jimbo, we both hit the,(Mason is gone) theme hard last fall and some individuals can not get past it. I do agree with you that it is the Brewster supporters that feel the need to bring the previous staff up to defend their positions with the current staff. This is Brewsters program and it will survive or perish on his leadership. Re: how far have we sunk. I remember when the dreaded MCB was our worst nightmare. I bet we will really pack-em in at Ford Field.

david_allen_coe says:

May 17th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

We are talking about a football program. That includes 90-100 young men and a complete staff of coaches. Nothing can be analyzed in a vacuum.

Where you guys are all wrong is trying to place “blame” for a condition that is the result of a composite of events over several years. That has to include the performance of both Brewster and Mason, their entire staffs and the players wearing maroon and gold.

By the third year, you can look at the program as totally Brewster’s, not before.

It is not a question of blame. Intelligent analysis assigns reasons for where we are, not blame.

The Loon says:

May 17th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

Yes, I agree with dac, the whole picture needs deep analysis followed with a ton of excuses. Every year has problems which this coach must overcome. That is his job.

Which four Big Ten games are we going to win?

By the way, I was over to the stadium today and it looked very good. I like the color of the brick and the concrete, molded details looks very classical. My stadium is going to look very nice.

Gold04 says:

May 18th, 2008 at 8:11 am

I agree Scooter,

Writers are seeing the potential this team has. I do think 2008 will be much better then 2007.

Last year was the doom and gloom predictions by the experts and some people in MN were upset with the experts. The experts turned out to be correct. I remember my brother (big Gopher fan) and I talking on the phone before the 2007 season and saying 6 wins would be a absolute miracle. I think 3 to 4 wins was the censunsus. Even though we predicted too high, it was EASY to tell 2007 was going to be a brutal year. No talent period.

I think we’ll win 6 games. 6 wins will not satisfy the Masonites, but people will began to see how good this team will be in 2009.

If Brewster this year has the same season as last year, then I’ll unfortunately agree with the Masonites. I think this year we’ll see things coming together and see hope for a bright future.

Recruiting says:

May 18th, 2008 at 8:13 am

Well the BrewsterAssKissers are adament he never uttered his famous “Rose Bowl Proclaimation.” Will they now refute he said he would “close the borders” now that MN’s #1 player for class of 2009 has committed to MI???????????!

Recruiting says:

May 18th, 2008 at 8:15 am

Gold04 says:

May 18th, 2008 at 8:11 am

I agree Scooter,

Writers are seeing the potential this team has. I do think 2008 will be much better then 2007.

Last year was the doom and gloom predictions by the experts and some people in MN were upset with the experts. The experts turned out to be correct. I remember my brother (big Gopher fan) and I talking on the phone before the 2007 season and saying 6 wins would be a absolute miracle. I think 3 to 4 wins was the censunsus. Even though we predicted too high, it was EASY to tell 2007 was going to be a brutal year. No talent period.

I think we’ll win 6 games. 6 wins will not satisfy the Masonites, but people will began to see how good this team will be in 2009.

If Brewster this year has the same season as last year, then I’ll unfortunately agree with the Masonites. I think this year we’ll see things coming together and see hope for a bright future.
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Are you Sid Hartman?

Texas Gopher says:

May 18th, 2008 at 9:38 am

cruiting—who is the number 1 going to Michigan??

Recruiting says:

May 18th, 2008 at 10:24 am

McNeil

pokeintheeye says:

May 18th, 2008 at 11:39 am

I recently stumbled across the quote Recruiting seems to have so much trouble with. From Brewster’s initial press conference upon being named coach on January 17, 2007:

“We’re going to win the Big Ten championship and we’re going to take the Gopher Nation to Pasadena,” he said. “That’s my dream, that’s my goal and that’s my belief. It will happen here sooner rather than later.”

I may have missed it, but I did not see the word guarantee or the year 2007 in there.

Recruiting says:

May 18th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

pokeintheeye says:

May 18th, 2008 at 11:39 am

I recently stumbled across the quote Recruiting seems to have so much trouble with. From Brewster’s initial press conference upon being named coach on January 17, 2007:

“We’re going to win the Big Ten championship and we’re going to take the Gopher Nation to Pasadena,” he said. “That’s my dream, that’s my goal and that’s my belief. It will happen here sooner rather than later.”

I may have missed it, but I did not see the word guarantee or the year 2007 in there.
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Finish the quote, JackAss! The next sentence was,”We owe that to the seniors on this football team.”

Hey Amir, how was CA last Jan.?!!!! Barber, what was it like to play in the Rose Bowl?!!!!!!!!!

pokeintheeye says:

May 18th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

I suppose the next thing you pull out of your rear is that he said we were going to win the Rose Bowl for the Gipper! Quite the little fantasy world you seem to live in.

pokeintheeye says:

May 18th, 2008 at 3:08 pm

Here’s the whole quote, “The other thing I wanted to talk about is the type of football team we’re going to have and what the expectations are for this football team. My expectations from day one are going to be to win the Big Ten Championship. That’s what the seniors deserve and what everybody deserves. I met this football team this morning at 7:00. You talk about excited, I think we were both excited to see each other. I was looking for one guy in that room to be slumped down in his chair and not sitting on the words I was saying to these kids. I’m going to tell you, I couldn’t find one of them. Every single one of them was sitting up in his chair and was excited about what we’re talking about.”

Still missing the guarantee of Rose Bowl in 2007.

thewrenagain says:

May 18th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

How about the 0-8 Big Ten record? What does that say about his expectations of himself? Was 0-8 what the seniors deserved and what everybody deserved?

And he insured that by going with season number one as a “throw away” season. He changed everything and put in a system he did not have the players to play. That was HIS choice. So, let him live with HIS choice.

Taylor says:

May 18th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

thewrenagain says:

… but the REAL problem lise in the administration. They were not serious about hiring a coach who could succeed. However, until the administration of the U of M starts getting serious about making the U what it used to be prior to the 1970’s and 1980’s the administration needs to be let out to pasture. The U needs someone like Prexy Y to lead them.
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Wasn’t PAUL GIEL part of the 1970’s and 1980’s? And didn’t he personally hire his Football Coaches???? Stoll, Salem, Holtz, Gutekunst???

And wasn’t Yudof the President when Mason was the Head Football Coach?
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Wren says …”I will be more than happy to remind you about the failure of the administrations and any and every coach who does not win many, many Big Ten”

And I will be more than happy to point out that Paul Giel was part of the Administration who led us thru the wilderness years of the 1970’s and 1980’s!!!!

Recruiting says:

May 18th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

pokeintheeye says:

May 18th, 2008 at 3:08 pm

Here’s the whole quote, “The other thing I wanted to talk about is the type of football team we’re going to have and what the expectations are for this football team. My expectations from day one are going to be to win the Big Ten Championship. That’s what the seniors deserve and what everybody deserves. I met this football team this morning at 7:00. You talk about excited, I think we were both excited to see each other. I was looking for one guy in that room to be slumped down in his chair and not sitting on the words I was saying to these kids. I’m going to tell you, I couldn’t find one of them. Every single one of them was sitting up in his chair and was excited about what we’re talking about.”

Still missing the guarantee of Rose Bowl in 2007.
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Now you are an entire different paragraph, ScatterBrain. Where is the part of the quote you started with??

pokeintheeye says:

May 18th, 2008 at 5:53 pm

I found your quote that you tried cobbling to the quote I had. The original quote I posted was from an article by Chip on January 18. The second quote is from http://www.gophersports.com and is the initial speech that Brewster gave on the 17th.

Recruiting says:

May 18th, 2008 at 6:25 pm

The only cob is up your ass, BrewsterBlower………

thewrenagain says:

May 18th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

one ooc win in 2007 was not enough for mr mcneil who has now followed in the footsteps of floyd and mobley to greener pastures. 0-8 in the Big Ten was a great confidence builder for you, because it was not for them? Truely great plyers who get good grades and have options and good parents will not fall for the lines of crap laid down by the great gm/recuiter no matter how he spins 0-8.Soon these dummies and jucos and gang-bangers the gm/recruiter is bring in might start asking why none of the great local kids stay here? herndon found out! campblee found out! Thonmas found out and many more found out…..its about wins and not cheating and not lying to the players! its about integrity.

I got bashed by you baStards SO long, that you showed me the light of day. I will NEVER give a coach a blank check. If the coach is losing, I will use the reality of the situation to point out just exactly what is happening: that the coach is losing. I will advocate for change. My expectation is that either the coach starts winning Big Ten Football Games, or he needs to be run out of town on a rail. To hell with it. I can see right through the hype and will cut to the chase. If the coach is zero for eight in Big Ten play…I will bitch about it and call for drastic change. I will call it like I see it. I will tell it the way it really is. The only thing we know for certain is what has actually happened. The administrations at the U of M have run out of time with what they have provided for the football program and I am going to call them on it. If the administration is making horribkle fiscal blunders and wasting millions and millions of dollars, I will put the blame where it bolongs: directly on the administration.

So, I have had it mobbed and bashed out of me. I will tell it the way it is. I will not live on hype and hope watiing for the football program todo something. Either the football program will do it…or it will not do it. Either brewster wins lots of Big Ten games…or he does not win lots of Big Ten games.

I am dealing in the here and now. I am dealing with the reality of the situation.
Wins and losses in the Big Ten games are the ONLY measure of success or failure. You can NOT “…get by…” in the Big Ten with a weak offensive line no matter what fly-by-night offense you are trying to pretend that you are playing. You will have the “…cheap substitute…” margerine or generic spread of what ever kind and that is all you will have by trying to “…get by…”It’s all about the total number of Big Ten wins. The only stats that matter are scoring offense and scoring defense. The only other stat that determines winning or losing a game is the turnover ratio. If you want to look that stat up between 2006 and 2007 you will see that it is a huge difference. I will say that our leading rusher last year was our QB. Thats not going to cut it in the future. Also a good deal of those yards came because the other teams were just playing soft defense due to their lead in the game. The games when we had to get it done, we did not get it done. strut with your fellow club members! Yeah, I got kicked off gh/gi because I wouldn’t fall in line and kow tow to the company line. I consider that to be a tribute to my spirit of contrasting the bashers and mobbers of those sites. It is the loss of those sites…not a loss for me. They only want to allow people who will kiss the booster club’s behinds…and help push the agenda of the the booster club.

They liked me until they didn’t like me any longer. Once again, their loss!

Well, I still contrast. But, I’m not obnoxious and chicken sh.t the way those gh/gi people who come here and make comments about kids & wives, use my last name, and try to intimidate me in that way. To hell with them.

At least I stand up and say what I think.

I tell the truth about brewster’s record. He is 0-8 in Big Ten play. IF he ever starts winning lots of Big Ten games, I will give him credit. However he HAS to start winning Big Ten games before I will give him diddly squat.

the only evidence that is present is the fact that brewster went 0-8 in the big Ten in 2007. There is enough misuse of players and talent to suggest that he decided he was going to run an offense that his kids were not suited to play. brewster has been in charge for 15 stinking months and he has failed to develope talent that he has been in charge of. In 15 months time, the old staff always used to put together decent offensive lines.

brewster is responsible for developing talent each and every month he is in charge fo this football program. He sucks at doing that, obviously He didn’t even freaking offer scholarships to offensive linemen during the past 12 month recruiting period. He obviously thought he was “set” at the offensive line positions. He and his people screwd up. That’s pretty much the way it is Bayfield The guy is NOT an experienced head coach. He has pretty much sucked so far. Certainly, the people do need to hear the facts regarding brewster and his record at the U of M.

At any rate: it is the hard cold truth. It’s just that once again Chip’s blog is being abused by some very abusive people.

It’s your blog Chip….you can either let them walk all over you or you can do something to stop this abuse. Or, is this abuse what you want to happen here Chip? The abusers are A-OK with 0-8 and that just bashers the program down. Its all about the winns…..lots and lots and lots of Big 10wins and the gm/recruiter better get some in mason stadium or that will be the end of hime and the little ranger. 0-8 is not good. its unacceptable and will not be tolerated by those of us who love gopher football. no more throw away seasons, no more 0-8’s!

thewrenagain says:

May 18th, 2008 at 8:53 pm

So, once again someone has reposted some of my points. I must admit that it makes sense. You dishonest sleezy little gh/gi/booster club types really do need me to contrast your pathetic stances. When I don’t post often enough, some of the more cowardly of you run my posts and use the pathetic security system that chip signs his name on in order to forge my moniker.

Well, you people only need to know one thing. The big Ten recrod is the ONLY thing that matters and bfrewster is 0-8.

mac-turi ( just another pathetic little ranger ) and prexy b have made about as big a mess of firing Mason, wasting millions and millions of dollars and hiring an inept, inexperienced pretender as the master of their throw away season 2007 season.

The only thing any of you need to know is that brewster needs a LOT of Big Ten wins in 2008.

And, chip: it is your blog. Once again because you provide NO security, people post under other posters names and make a mockery fo you. Chip: you could have been better than this. You are going down the tubes because you don’t appear to have the stones to do something about the total lack of security. Do I have to bring a legal action against your paper and you to protect my moniker?

david_allen_coe says:

May 18th, 2008 at 9:17 pm

“Do I have to bring a legal action against your paper and you to protect my moniker?”
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Which one? You’re posting your lies and pornography under at least 20 names.

thewrenagain says:

May 18th, 2008 at 10:08 pm

taylor: I said PRIOR to the 1970’s and 1980’s which would take us back to the 1960’s. The U of M academically crashed during the 1970’s and 1980’s. The pathetic administrations (read: prexy’s of that era were pathetic. Thank God that prexy Y made his committment to begin to slavage the University of Minnesota and then went out and raised 2.25 billion dollars to back up his promise.

Prior taylor…PRIOR. That is what I said.

Giel is dead. Who cares about Giel. He is just another dead All-American Football Player. People like you get off on heaping crap on the dead.

As for me, I’ll go on record stating the the pathetic little ranger, macturi needs to be run out of town on a rail…the sooner the better. You are nothing but a pathetic little ranger butt-kisser, taylor, aka jimbl, aka iceland/snowman/and other assorted pathetic little ranger types…

thewrenagain says:

May 18th, 2008 at 10:59 pm

d_a_c, pantherhawk,jimbo,taylor,derek, and all the other pathetic little names you use…I don’t stoop to your level…ever. That hole in your head is never going to properly heal. However, it is no great loss.

gold04 says:

May 18th, 2008 at 11:52 pm

I will make a prediction. Mase will WIN a national title when he gets back into coaching again.

Rescooter says:

May 19th, 2008 at 5:54 am

eyeWRENski truthfully states:

“They liked me until they didn’t like me any longer.”

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That deep statement needs no comment.

mnmike says:

May 19th, 2008 at 7:30 am

–That deep statement needs no comment.–

That deep statement sounds like something that came out of the mouth of Dennis Green. I wonder if Wren wrote that from his bunker, ala Denny’s videotaping his “they’re out to get me diatrabe.”

Texas Gopher says:

May 19th, 2008 at 7:39 am

Sid Hartman says—However, people close to McNeal say they believe if the Gophers should get off to a winning start next year, they will continue to recruit him and McNeal might change his mind.

The importance and urgency of the start of the season can not be overemphasized. I know the coaching staff realizes it.

Rescooter says:

May 19th, 2008 at 7:41 am

Come to think of it, I never liked wren to begin with.

If he did actually have people that liked him at one time, he needs to do a self-assessment. I’d like to know these answers:

1. Why his hand sometime slips onto the Cap-Lock button?
2. Why does he call everyone dudes and dudettes? Has he been watching the Ninja Turtles re-runs?
3. Do his aliases sometimes converse inside his head?

Inquiring minds need to know.

Jimbo says:

May 19th, 2008 at 9:27 am

The wren has worked himself into a frenzy. He apparently hates Maturi, Bruininks, Brewster, men of slight stature, recovering surgical patients, Chip Scoggins, every Gopher coach since Bernie Bierman, every University of Minnesota president in history except Mark Yudof, Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy.

The Denny Green analogy is great, mnmike. Wren was heard yesterday screaming, “Jimbo, d_a(sp)_c, and Rescooter are who we thought they were!”

thewrenagain says:

May 19th, 2008 at 9:43 am

The thing is that you dirty trick people from the booster club, gi and gh are so focused upon trying to stoop to any lengths to try to discredit anything I may have to say. Anyone with a brain sees through your futile attempts at sliencing a voice that reminds everyone that brewster was 0-8 in 2007 in Big Ten Play. He is failing. He laid an egg. He struck out. He whiffed. He threw that season away. All of your pathetic excuses can not change the fact that he got his tail handed to him in virtually every game he showed up at in 2007…and specifically in EVERY Big Ten game.

Until he achieves a LOT of Big Ten wins he is nothing, a nobody and a failure. That is just the way it is in college football. dudes and dudettes are pathetic little fantasy football people and recruiting freaks…you know, just like YOU people. It’s hard to tell if they are dudes or dudettes on a message board…so…both must be addressed when speaking to that type of person.

brewster is failing miserably in the only catagory that matters: Big Ten wins. He has NONE.

He needs LOT of Big Ten wins in 2008 to keep the columnists from making fun of his pathetic little fifedom.

A Big Ten loss is a Big Ten loss. Lose enough Big Ten games with out enough Big ten wins and you are dead meat as a Big Ten Coach. Even if it is only your second year. Enough is enough. Not enough is not enough. brewster has himself set up for an early demise as a Big Ten Coach. That is his own doing. He is guilty of a self-inflicted his throw away season in 2007. He can use no excuse to try to cower behind. He stands alone…with ONLY his record to defend him. His record in 1-11 and most importantly, 0-8 in Big Ten play. IF he goes to 0-9 to start the 2008 season, the odds are pretty good that he will be at 0-10 before you know it. If he gets to 0-11, his odds of survival are about 0 out of 11. It does not look good for the gm/recruiter that macturi/prexy b settled for.

IF he doesn’t at least beat iowa, NU and Indiana at the dome…this 2008 season will be the beginning of the end of a short and futile Big Ten Coaching career( really a gm/recruiting tragic comedy). The pressure is on him…and…the pressure is on the pathetic little ranger to produce Big Ten wins…lots of Big Ten wins in 2008.

Texas Gopher says:

May 19th, 2008 at 9:55 am

wren–I would say you are the “pathetic” individual. Don’t you have something else to do?

thewrenagain says:

May 19th, 2008 at 10:01 am

Well, thanks for your opinion tex! Now, let’s try to establish who and what you are. As an individual, anyone who call himself “texas” doesn’t impress me very much. I think that perhaps you have nothing to do other than to try to defend a hopeless “throw the season away” coach that brought us the worst year of football in the history of the University of Minnesota in 2007.

So, you have shown me nothing tex. Giddyap and head ‘em on out…

david_allen_coe says:

May 19th, 2008 at 10:03 am

Whine Renbawls is correct. We could not tolerate any more throw away bowl games by Mason.

thewrenagain says:

May 19th, 2008 at 10:15 am

So macturi hired a gm/recruiter who will NEVER make it to a bowl game. That is a a typical pathetic little ranger move. He should be extending brewster just before the start of the season so that he can waste more money from the general fund when he has to buy him out for losing entirely too many Big Ten games.

david_allen_coe says:

May 19th, 2008 at 10:40 am

Whinedahl … The chances of Brewster getting to a bowl game are several billion percent higher than the chance you will ever be anything but a pornographer.

mnmike says:

May 19th, 2008 at 10:43 am

–The thing is that you dirty trick people from the booster club, gi and gh are so focused upon trying to stoop to any lengths to try to discredit anything I may have to say.–

While you’ve made a couple valid points, most of what you’ve posted on this site is non-sensical & inane ramblings multiple times over. I really doubt that the people from the booster club, gi, & gh are out to silence & discredit you when you seem to do a bang-up job all by yourself. While I have no association with those groups, I’m sure they just dismiss you as any other irrelevant individual.

mnmike says:

May 19th, 2008 at 10:45 am

–The Denny Green analogy is great, mnmike. Wren was heard yesterday screaming, “Jimbo, d_a(sp)_c, and Rescooter are who we thought they were!”–

You better watch out jimbo, he might try to crown your a$$ with a law suit like he mentioned that he would possibly do to Chip.

The Loon says:

May 19th, 2008 at 10:54 am

Look like Apebama is getting all bad ass on the GOP
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080519/ap_on_el_pr/obama_wife

Jimbo says:

May 19th, 2008 at 10:54 am

mnmike, I’m sure the lawyers will be lining up to take his case.

thewrenagain says:

May 19th, 2008 at 11:11 am

well jimbodumnuts i have talked to several prominet attorneys who are interested in this case. you will all pay for your libel, slander and dirty tricks!! cha-ching$$$

Jimbo says:

May 19th, 2008 at 11:14 am

Did you get Denny Crain of Crain, Poole and Schmidt (Boston Legal), Wren?

I guess it’s better than getting beat up by Ruppert’s son.

thewrenagain says:

May 19th, 2008 at 11:18 am

mnmike: what is “…non-sensical & inane…” about complaining about a 0-8 Big Ten record in 2007. It is fact, hard cold fact. I hated not winning any Big Ten games. That goes on the coache’s head. Of course, he doesn’t wnat to be a “head” coach…he wants to be a gm/recruiter. He has appointed an new co-head coach even headed into the 2008 season that will tell us IF he can win any Big Ten games. He doesn’t want the pressure of being the lone-head guy. He wants to get down, boogie like a drunken used car salesman and be the gm/recruiter dude.

You will be reading a lot of the local columnists such as the Strib’s very own reusse commenting on the relevence of Big Ten wins to the status of one gm/recruiter brewster in September, October and November. And, he will tell it the way he sees it. A LOT of Big Ten wins is the only hope for the gm/recruiter wanna be.

That is just another one of the facts of life for a college football fan.

Jimbo says:

May 19th, 2008 at 11:18 am

Oops. I guess it’s spelled Crane instead of Crain.

david_allen_coe says:

May 19th, 2008 at 11:20 am

Jumbo … Can you imagine the name of the plaintiff in the case? Whine WrenblawbayCrudingPornographerPantherHogfool and about 20 other names he uses.

thewrenagain says:

May 19th, 2008 at 11:27 am

Once again: the trick players from this site have forged a post by me at 11:11 am. I am not responsible for the piece of trash that is using this site’s lack of institutional control to be a low-classed piece of trash.

Chip: what are you doing about this?

I must admit: I can generate a lot of traffic for this site that would not happen IF I were not here. Allowing low-classed scut to violate my registered moniker on this site.

Well, the brewster watch will continue. Every loss that the incompetent, inexperienced gm/recruiter racks up is a personal insult to any and all real Gopher Fans. brewster: you had better win a LOT of Big Ten games in 2008 or it is going to be very ugly for you all around the state of Minnesota. The ball is in your court brewster. You either win or you don’t. The only wins that count are Big Ten wins.

Texas Gopher says:

May 19th, 2008 at 11:36 am

Wrten says repeatedly—The only wins that count are Big Ten wins.

I disagree. You don’t think OSU going to USC and beating them would matter?? I realize our OOC schedule is weak, but the every win is important.

Recruiting says:

May 19th, 2008 at 11:40 am

Hes going with Dewey, Fuckem & Howe.

Jimbo says:

May 19th, 2008 at 11:43 am

So now my question is, what kind of scum would be so pathetic and lonely, that he/she/it would want to impersonate Wren?

Makes you wonder.

thewrenagain says:

May 19th, 2008 at 11:48 am

The standard around here has always only mentioned coaches Big Ten records. FAU, Montana State, BG and NIU are only games that can hurt a coach, win or lose. The only potential wins on the schedule that could happen at home that would count would be games against iowa, Indiana and NU. Any other Big Ten win, would, of course help. However, Big Ten losses, when your record is 0-8 in the Big Ten willbe more nails in the coffin of a gm/recruiting career. The ooc games can only hurt the gm/recruiter. It is a no win situation for him in those games. Why? That is what the mobbers and bashers always said while they were busy setting the standards with former coaches. The best he can hope for in those games is to win them all and to win them by a very lopsided score. A close game…or…a loss against those four teams would never be lived down. Close losses against Big Ten teams only make people more angry.

so, the gm/recruiter has only ONE path…that is to beat at LEAST iowa, Indidan and NU in Big Ten contests at home. Otherwise all is lost for him.

david_allen_coe says:

May 19th, 2008 at 11:50 am

“So now my question is, what kind of scum would be so pathetic and lonely, that he/she/it would want to impersonate Wren?”
__________________

Bingo!! Direct hit. The simple answer is “nobody” is that sick. Which clearly means he himself is posting all the trash and pornography under about 20 screwball names.

Derek says:

May 19th, 2008 at 11:52 am

thewrenagain says:

May 19th, 2008 at 11:27 am

I must admit: I can generate a lot of traffic for this site that would not happen IF I were not here.
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Yes wayne, you generate so much interest in this blog. Without you, Chip might as well shut her down.

I swear the guy has dementia.

Derek says:

May 19th, 2008 at 11:54 am

thewrenagain says:

May 19th, 2008 at 11:11 am

well jimbodumnuts i have talked to several prominet attorneys who are interested in this case. you will all pay for your libel, slander and dirty tricks!! cha-ching$$$

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This sounds alot like a phone call I once received. Maybe I sould call Crain or Crane up myself….LMAOR.

mnmike says:

May 19th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

Wren,

I really doubt that any attorney, much less a prominent one would take your case. Even if someone was posting childish or smutty comments under your moniker, I doubt any attorney would waste their time by filing a case against some 3rd party for making idiotic statements. You really need to get over yourself.

Jimbo says:

May 19th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

Like I said, mnmike, I’m more concerned about getting beat up by someone’s son, or by some big hairy woman from Fargo.

Gopher Time says:

May 19th, 2008 at 12:35 pm

Derek,

Did it have a deep gravelly voice like a constipated bear?

mnmike says:

May 19th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

Jimbo,

Who was that piece of work that threatened to have his knuckle-dragging son take care of you last year?

For the life of me, I cannot fathom how some people can get so worked up to threaten someone physically or toss out silly threats of lawsuits over a recreational sport.

mnmike says:

May 19th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

– mnmike: what is “…non-sensical & inane…” about complaining about a 0-8 Big Ten record in 2007. It is fact, hard cold fact. –

Now Wren, is this you posting the above comment, or is it the boosters and gi/gh website poster’s that are at it again? If not, then there isn’t anything non-sensical or inane about complaining of a 0-8 Big Ten record. We just don’t need to hear it 500 times.

–He doesn’t want the pressure of being the lone-head guy. He wants to get down, boogie like a drunken used car salesman and be the gm/recruiter dude. –

Care to provide any facts to these statements or did you just pull them out of you know where?

– You will be reading a lot of the local columnists such as the Strib’s very own reusse commenting on the relevence of Big Ten wins to the status of one gm/recruiter brewster in September, October and November. And, he will tell it the way he sees it. A LOT of Big Ten wins is the only hope for the gm/recruiter wanna be. –

BFD about Reusse. It’s not like he’s a scribe or anything. BTW, I do read/like his columns. FYI, a columnist’s job (Reusse included)is to sell papers by writing thought provoking articles irregardless if it contains any factual data.

Jimbo says:

May 19th, 2008 at 1:21 pm

mnmike, that threat came from a blogger known as RuppertFlywheel. And it came right before the NDSU game. We all had a lot of fun with it.

I’m with you. I have fun doing this (a diversion from work a few minutes at a time.) Never has anyone said anything here that would cause me to consider any kind of physical response. Not that I could, anyway. I’m quite a wimp.

I’m kind of thinking Ruppert made the comment tongue-in-cheek, too. If not, I really don’t care.

thewrenagain says:

May 19th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

The ONLY thing that matters is that brewster is 0-8 in Big Ten games. Thank you so much for being jerks and trying to make up posts using my moniker, because it ALWAYS allows me the opportunity to document just how horrible a gm/recruiter brewster was during the 2007 season.

So: d_a_c; since you are such a wahoo and derek…since you are d_a_c, I will call you wahoo as well.

Thanks for the opportunity to remind everyone how much brewster sucked in year number one. He is taking the Gopher Football Program straight to no where unless he wins a LOT of Big Ten games in 2008. That is, alwasy has been and always will be the bottom line here. brewster can not win Big Ten football games as of this date. He had better start winning a LOT of Big Ten football games in 2008. If he does not…just watch the local media and the casual fans start demanding his…and macturi’s heads.

It is “win big Ten football games”…or perish time here in Minnesota.

Jimbo says:

May 19th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

Yawn.

thewrenagain says:

May 19th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

0-8? That is nothing to yawn about snowman leaks.

Jimbo says:

May 19th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

thewrenagain says:

May 19th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

“So: d_a_c; since you are such a wahoo…”
—————
Do you mean like Wahoo McDaniel, the wrestler?

Jimbo says:

May 19th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

thewrenagain says:

May 19th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

0-8? That is nothing to yawn about snowman leaks.
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Huh?

mnmike says:

May 19th, 2008 at 2:35 pm

Jimbo,

Yep, now I remember RuppertFlywheel. I hope all is well with he and his 6′5″ 260LB son.

mnmike says:

May 19th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

thewrenagain says:

May 19th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

0-8? That is nothing to yawn about snowman leaks.
————————-
–Huh?–

I think that’s what happpens when the temperature gets too warm and the snowman melts or it’s just another one of the cornocopia ofpersonalities in Wren’s world.

thewrenagain says:

May 19th, 2008 at 2:55 pm

But, it takes a brewster to go 0-8 in Big Ten play…

Taylor says:

May 20th, 2008 at 9:00 am

thewrenagain says:

You will be reading a lot of the local columnists such as the Strib’s very own reusse commenting on the relevence of Big Ten wins to the status of one gm/recruiter brewster in September, October and November. And, he will tell it the way he sees it. A LOT of Big Ten wins is the only hope for the gm/recruiter wanna be.
————–
Wren, I didn’t realize you were such a big Reusse fan! Did Reusse “tell it the way he sees it” when he named Glen Mason “Turkey of the Year”???!!!

Gold04 says:

May 21st, 2008 at 6:41 am

It was so EASY Predictions!

Here are a number of things I predicted that I can’t believe people did not see it was going to happen.

1. Gophers having a bad year in 2007.

I just do not understand what all the fuss is about from the Masonites about what happened in 2007. I predicted 2007 was going to be a tough year and it was so EASY to see. All the experts even predicted for us to finish dead last in the Big Ten. With no talent it was EASY to see 2007 was going to be a terrible year.

2. Mase not getting a job.

When Mase was coach here his last few years, many of the Masonites (Wren especially) on this site, told us there are plenty of places that want coach Mase. I had to calm their fears. I told them that once was the case but not anymore. I told them over and over again Mase has nowhere to go. Mase has campaigned hard for a job and it still has not happened. I hate to pat myself on the back but this was so EASY to predict.

3. Gophers winning last three Big Ten games in 2006.

Loon acted like we had won the Rose bowl when the Gophers won the last three Big Ten games in 2006. I predicted it was going to happen on Gopherhole after the loss to OSU. It was so EASY to predict. We were playing three bad teams with two of those games at home. It was so EASY to predict this was going to happen.

These are just a few predictions that were so EASY to predict. It’s like Wren talking about how easy the Gophers schedule is this year.

False Prophets

Let me give you a warning about some false prophets. We had a a couple of posters make some bold predictions on Mase about what would have happened if Mase was still our coach.

1. Bud saying the experts would have predicted us to finish as high as 6th in the Big Ten in 2007, if Mase was still our coach.

2. Recruiting saying Mase would go 10-2 in 2008.

If they really think these predictions were going to come true then they must have made these bold predictions during happy hour.

Derek says:

May 21st, 2008 at 11:34 am

Gopher Time says:

May 19th, 2008 at 12:35 pm

Derek,

Did it have a deep gravelly voice like a constipated bear?
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I see you’ve received the same phone call as well!