A question about shrub roses

Posted on July 13th, 2009 – 10:26 AM
By Jaime Chismar

Shrub roses are beginning to grow on me.

Like my new clematis, I walked into Linder’s looking for one thing and came out with two shrub roses, a Frau Dagmar Hartopp (pink) and a Carefree Sunshine (yellow). Both promise to be super hardy, but in Minnesota, anything is possible. No?

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(Note: I was going to buy a Sven or Ole shrub rose, but the name Frau Dagmar totally cracks me up. Plus, I really liked its big, red rose hips.)

So all you rose fans, is there anything I can do now to ensure long term survival of my newest impulse purchases? I have them both in a sunny spot with plenty of mulch. Are they heavy feeders? When is the best time to prune?

Thank you for all you help — Happy gardening!

13 Responses to "A question about shrub roses"

Margaret says:

July 13th, 2009 at 10:38 am

I have 7 or 8 different shrub roses. The one in the picture looks like a rugosa from the leaves. It should do fine with little care and you should be able to either leave it alone or prune it for looks for most of it’s life. For now, make sure it gets plenty of water. This fall, put some compost or rotted manure around the base and mulch it well. I did that the first couple of years and got very little die back. Latter years, not so much and got more but the whole bush is bigger so it wasn’t too bad overall.

Anneesha says:

July 13th, 2009 at 11:00 am

I had good luck for a few years with the Morden “Centennial” - it got huge and flowered heavily & constantly, but then got some kind of blight.

Now I want to find one that has lots of rosehips to stay on for winter interest - any suggestions?

Deb says:

July 13th, 2009 at 11:51 am

Frau Dagmar is fabulous and not at all frumpy like her name - lots and lots of blooms and a nice round shape. Yes, it is always good to add compost, fertilizer, and mulch, but she is so hardy that she’ll be fine without a lot of attention and you don’t need to cover her for the winter. Carefree Sunshine might be more tempermental. I’ve found yellow roses need a little more protection. Sven and Ole are great too although my Lena didn’t make it over the winter. I have Morden Centennial too - it is really beautiful - gets very tall for me with canes above 5′.

thunk says:

July 13th, 2009 at 12:09 pm

I have a John Cabot that’s been transplanted twice and cut to the ground last fall. It’s about 12 inches tall and blooming this year. They are very hardy.

Kathie says:

July 13th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

question re: peonies: all the ants have disappeared therefore the peonies will not open — now what do I do?

questions re: irises: my irises are not blooming. planted last fall, the plants have beautiful green leaves, no flowers, now what do I do?

Deb W says:

July 13th, 2009 at 12:54 pm

I have a blanc rugosa, a yellow one, and the old fasioned pink one and yes, the yellow ones are a little more tempermental, mulch more and I have been known to wrap it in bulap to shelter from the wind.
Katie, if your peonies have now bloomed by now they should be dried up and shriveled, they will not bloom this year.
Iris have an attitude: if I transplant they pout the first year and do not bloom until they second. Make sure they are planted shallow enough and they should bloom next year.

Judybusy says:

July 13th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

Kathie, we had a dry spring; I wonder if that’s why the peonies didn’t open. Aslo, ants have nothing to do with getting them to open–it’s just a myth!

bob says:

July 13th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

Regarding the question on Iris. More than likely you planted your iris to deep in the soil. For the iris to bloom the tuber roots must be above the soil level and free from mulch. Allowing the sun to reach the tuber roots will promote flowering next summer.

Auntie K says:

July 13th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

Like Margaret, I have a lots of shrub and rugosa roses (a dozen or so, I think). The first year, I composted and covered with marsh hay. Everything came back the next year. I side/top dress with manure a couple times a summer. And, prune out the dead stuff as needed or the stems that are crowding others. (I am going to cover my Graham Thomas this year — not so much for the weather but as protection from the bunnies, who munched it down to the crown.) It did come back, but took a long time.

WannaBee says:

July 13th, 2009 at 3:58 pm

I have a shrub rose, not even sure what type it is as it was planted almost 6 years ago, but I don’t like it at all! It flowers profusely and is beautiful, BUT, it SPREADS - it has taken over an entire section of my garden, it is coming up out in my yard, I don’t know what to do - invasion, run, run!! So, the lesson here, be careful what you wish for, err plant . . .

Al Reller says:

July 13th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

I have a plain old Hansa Rugosa which this year makes people come into the yard and sniff! Also it has really big hips. As for hardiness we had one in our yard when I was a child which my father would mow down, my mother would put a fence around the stubby remains and next summer it was bigger and better than ever!
I too have buried iris. I read some where to late for the iris I got from Anderson’s Iris farm in Wite Bear that you iris should float like a duck on a lake. Good image and a good idea!

Margaret says:

July 14th, 2009 at 9:38 am

Iris is a bit different in MN. Yes, you don’t want to plant it too deep but if you put it right on the surface, like they do in the south you will get Iris death. I plant mine so that some of rhyzome is exposed but not completely. The rest is usually covered with mulch in the winter. If your iris bloomed before, I would look at other causes, like maybe it needs dividing, it’s not getting enough water or some kind of pest like fungal disease or iris borer.

Al Reller says:

July 15th, 2009 at 10:49 am

Thank you for identifying my plant last summer. A visitor came up the drive pointed at the blue flower, asked, “What’s that?” I handed them the printout from last year’s column and went back to weeding. Al Reller