Sunday update
Posted on October 5th, 2008 – 3:09 PMBy Kent Youngblood
Well, Eric Decker, Adam Weber and Dom Alford are all OK.
Marcus Sherels? Don’t know yet. As of noon Sunday coach Tim Brewster said he didn’t know the specifics (separation or dislocation?) or severity of the injury sustained by the Gophers best cornerback Saturday against Indiana.
He did say this: That if Sherels can’t play, either Ryan Collado or Troy Stoudermire would. That would appear to be a choice between experience or potential. It’s my gut feeling today that it would be difficult for Sherels to return in a week. With the bye week coming up after that he would have a good rest between games to heal up. Of course, I could be wrong. Witness my contention the other day that Michigan had found itself.
David Pittman or Brandon Green would replace Sherels on punt returns if necessary. Brewster said he would be comfortable using Stoudermire a bit on offense, like he did last week, and at cornerback if that’s the way things work out. But he doesn’t want to add punt returning to that already full plate.
I saw a few of you thought it was strange that Decker returned to Saturday’s game after being clearly wooze after that early fourth-quarter hit. Sunday Brewster said there is a pretty strict and standard cognitive test given to any player before he is allowed to return to the field. As you’ll recall, backup tight end Nick Tow-Arnett sustained a concussion the week before on special teams and was not allowed to return to the game.
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I am truly happy for the players. It was a hard fought victory and one well deserved. Polarbear, what is your definition of a decade? The Gophers defense in 2002 held Ill. to 19, MSU to 7 and Arkansas to 14. In 2003 they held Ill. to 10 and Indy to 7. And in 2004 PSU to 7, Ill. to 10 and Bama to 16. Were you around then? I am very proud of the Gophers but some of you can not stop saying things that try to reflect poorly on the past and spin the future. Lets just see what happens during the remaining games and hope for the best. DAC sense Indy held us to 16 does that mean that Indy’s defense is 5 points better than OSU’s defense? That is how rediculious your statements were last week about our boys getting OSU’s A game in the finale 8 minutes. Six and thirteen points in our first two Big Ten games. Come on D we are going to need you.
WE ARE WHO I THOUGHT WE ARE!
The Gophers are on a collision course to my prediction of 8 wins. I want us to beat Illinios, but it’s not going to happen. Gophers may get blow out, but they still will be on track to win 8 games.
People like Bud and Recruiting made it clear I won’t be let off the hook if it doesn’t happen. No ONE will be OFF the hook when it happens.
WE ARE WHO I THOUGHT WE ARE!
The Loon says:
August 26th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
At the rate “17th rated recruiting class in the nation” is
losing players, there may be none left by fall 2009.
The Loon says:
August 27th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Dear Gold04,
Firing Mason at huge cost was very, very, very stupid. We now face destroying the best thing this program has done in forty years, openning the new stadium. Sorry Gold04, you guys have really, really hurt this program a ton. I have no idea where we go from here, but this current chapter has a terribly long way to go before we are going to hit the bottom very hard. It sickens me to be shown to be so correct about where the “Fire Mason” stupidity was going to take us.
The Loon says:
August 28th, 2008 at 9:41 am
No one can expect the media to ignore the Grey story nor the very negative implications for our program that comes from that story. But now the hype season is over again and the real football games will be played. It should be no real problem for the team to win this game with whatever players are not in “jail”.
The Loon says:
September 2nd, 2008 at 9:47 am
It is going to be the Indiana game that will really tell us a lot about our team.
So Loony, you asked and there they are:
will we have any recruits left for 2009?
How far till we hit bottom? 5-1 now, will that be 5-7, still a 4 game increase from 07?
How many guys are in jail?
And what did IU game tell the venerable, genius vet loony?
The IU game did tell us that we are probably not the last place program in the Big Ten this year. I thought that was a must win statement for year two in this quest of yours. Was I wrong?
The other comments seem fine. I never set the bar at the 2007 season, by that standard we are now better than we were under Wacker and Salem. Nothing more.
andoverjoe: here is the deal…Big Ten wins are good…Big Ten losses are bad. Keep the Big Ten wins coming. don’t even slip back into that 9 Big Ten losses for 1 Big Ten win kind of trip. Now: show me the next Big Ten wins. Big Ten wins are good. Big Ten losses are really bad. What have you done for us lately? That is the question of the day for the discerning Golden Gopher Football Fan.
Get LOTS of Big Ten wins in 2008. In 2009 PSU and MSU are added to the schedule. PSU and MSU look pretty darn tough in 2008. Even the ooc wins may come tougher in 2009: Cal and Air Force will be on the schedule.
and what did I say the question of the day is for the discerning Golden Gopher Fan who will hold this brewster to the highest of standards that were demanted by countless others around the Gopher Program? That’s right: “…what have you done for us lately?” Win countless Big Ten football games NOW!
Thank you coach Tim Brewester for restoring defense to Gopher football.
Thank you also for flushing trash like this Wrenbawl and this Canadian loser Loonatic down the sewer,
Thank you coach Tim Brewester for restoring defense to Gopher football.
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Why didn’t he restore it last year? Will it still still be restored THIS Saturday?
Patience d_a_c. This is a project and it appears we finally have a capable DC on board. The D played well but still isn’t ready to compete with the big boys. With this offense, the D needs to hold BT teams to 3 TD’s in order for us to beat the upper tier BT teams. Good luck! Does the OSU game bring back any memories??
Bayfield;
As far as quality of player, Juice Williams is somewhere between Pryor and Lewis. If you remember last year when he came to the Dome he had Mendenhall as a duel run threat.
Illinois looked good on the ground, but the passing game was not nearly as strong. This year they’re a little more balanced, but I think Roof seems to have a partial answer to a strong rushing QB….blitz the blind corners.
Illinois is an 11 point favorite here, but I think with the experience we’ve received in the last 2 games, I think it will be a different story.
As I’ve said, our D this year is disciplined until the carrier gets hit…at that point, all hell breaks loose.
Its Monday morning and this fan is putting his reputation on the line by predicting another big 10 win for our gophers next Saturday against Ill….
One more thing:
Illinois is very vulnerable to a strong passing attack. I don’t think they’ll have an answer for Decker either.
Wallyb2, I’m thinking we’ll win one of the two road games. Illinois may be in for a bit of a let down after walking all over Michigan.
Illinois is very vulnerable to a strong passing attack. I don’t think they’ll have an answer for Decker either.
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Against a legit opponent, our 1 trick pony won’t be so cute, beancounter. See OSU game……..
Are Big Ten wins good and Big Ten losses really bad? Just wondering.
I’d love to see the Gophers win at least 2-3 more games and continue to improve. With a young D though, I’m sure some team will come up with a plan to expose a weakness or two.
Will Bucky be 0-3 after this week? Let’s hope so.
Will Bucky be 0-3 after this week? Let’s hope so.
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And ioweed too!
Before the season started the only two games I said we have no chance at winning is OSU and Illinios. I hope we beat Illinios but I doubt it’s going to happen.
After the bye we have five winnable games. I think 3 wins is very realistic.
Rescooter—thanks for the feedback on the last game. Good to hear a firsthand account.
Bud. I am saying, this defense is the fastest D I have seen in a decade, best DT play I have seen in a decade, and best I have seen at causing TO. I am not the only one to notice.
Once again Wren. Are Big 10 wins - good, and Big 10 losses - bad?? I think we are all still having trouble with that one.
You may be having trouble, but that is the ONLY mwetric on the football field that matters bye the bi-polar. It matter SO much that you attempt to down play it’s importance. I look for these things and these things only: 1) a good, clean HONEST program. 2) Ever increasing numbers of football players graduating. 3) Bit Ten wins in SIGNIFICANT numbers. That’s it. Not much more really matters. IF a coach doesn’t get that done within a few years, fire the coach or buy out his/her contract. If the coach doesn’t even want to be the coach, but would rather be the gm/recruiter give that process three years and assess the situation. IF he is ONLY getting 3 to 5 Big Ten wins a year…or LESS, cut the cord and bring in someone else who can then be sold by the boosters and people who want access to who ever is running the newly hyped line of b.s.
This is a results oriented business. Three years is more than enough time to fire another coach. THAT is the way it has been done for the past fifty or sixty years. Sure, the standard used to be four years…but…things are moving faster and cost a lot more now than things used to move and cost.
No mercy for someone who does not win SIGNIFICANT numbers of Big Ten games every year…all of the time.
Bud … You got your azzz kicked on Saturday.
Birdy,is that how you really feel?? We had forgotten since last week. But, keep reminding us.
Wren, I am confused. If it is a results oriented business, why did it take ten years for Mason to be let go? What were his results?
GOPHER1 says:
October 6th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Wren, I am confused. If it is a results oriented business, why did it take ten years for Mason to be let go? What were his results?
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I hate to bring this up, but perhaps the economy is causing Wren’s posts to be even stranger than ever (if that’s possible).
His number one investment was Mosaic. In June it was 160. Today it is 33.90 and dropping like a rock. He also owned John Deere: 80 in June and 35 today.
I never thought I’d get to the point were I’d feel sorry for Wren but he’s really losing a LOT of money. His main dude or dudette (whatever the case may be) is very disappointed.
His number one investment was Mosaic. In June it was 160. Today it is 33.90 and dropping like a rock.
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There must be some mistake??! Mosaic was supposed to continue going up forever..completely immune to any market correction whatsoever???? Even $10 diesel coupled with $1.00 corn were suppossed to be unable to stop this dynamo’s meteoric rise to Neptune?!
Good grief - something’s wrong here. I agree with Recruiting’s tongue in cheek post. Many novice investors were sucked in while the big guys got out. I’ve seen it happen too many times to count. Hopefully he didn’t buy it on margin.
Even though I agree with you Recruiting, you’re still an idiot.
Rescooter, I thought I felt the earth turn on it’s axis for a minute. Now I know why, you agreed with Recruiting.
GOPHER1 says:
October 6th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Rescooter, I thought I felt the earth turn on it’s axis for a minute. Now I know why, you agreed with Recruiting
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LOL! I’m expecting a wren cut&paste novel pretty soon. This is the worst case scenario for him: Gophers winning and the stock market going down. It sucks to be wren.
Even though I agree with you Recruiting, you’re still an idiot.
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And here I thought we would be taking a warm shower with you tonight!
Mosaic is one of the companies we looked at shorting in our newsletter 7 weeks ago, but did not…should have. It had/has the same fundamentals as crude, natural gas and MN Cheerleader Bellies which we did go short on all 3, 7 weeks ago.
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Could anyone else feel the tention on Saturday just waiting for the Gophers to find a way to lose that game?
That’s another Golden Gopher first down cheer followed by silence until the next, That’s another Golden Gopher first down.
Not only do I like the winning, but I like winning some character building close games.
DAC, the Gophers won and I had hoped for a good week of practice and a victory. How did I get my ass kicked? Your lack of knowledge when it comes to football continues to show up with each passing week.
Bud … You, wrenbawls, and That Loonatic all got your butts kicked nine ways from Sunday. You have never written a post here without trashing the Gophers.
You are not even man enough to recognize the score of a football game. You need to lie about it to make your sick and twisted point trashing the team.
BigGuy, I definitely felt the tension at the end of the game. I hate saying it but all I kept thinking was the game was way to close for how well the D played and that they would find a way to lose this game. But thakfully, they proved me wrong and I was one very happy camper when I walked out of the inflatible toilet. Go Gophs!
Did everyone notice Collado playing BudBall out there? Yup, the ignorant little liar Bud is always talking about “keeping the ball in front of them.”
Collado knows how to do that. Just give the receiver 10-12 yards cushion to catch the ball.
Bud, you’re just brilliant. ROTFLMAO!
I enjoyed the game a lot. Yes, I miss having some sort of running game. Yes, we have no O-line worth spit at the moment. And yes, I did watch Ball State cream IU at IU so I am not all giddy about this win. But, in the long scheme of things, a win is always a good thing.
Roof is doing a very good job with the guys he has. My experience as a veteran Gopher fan would suggest to me the U will figure a way out to lose him very soon. He must be threatening to Brewster.
Perhaps one of you Brew Crew guys could explain to me where the young and old fans have gone to now that we have a top PR man in charge of the program?
Evil Mason gone, Good Brewster arrives and sucks up to the state of Minnesota, fans stay home. I thought that all the sucking up to fans and kissing booster butts was suppose to build attendance, not knock it down as clearly as it has fallen.
Last time IU played here (2006) we drew 44,610 following a loss at OSU.
In 2003 we drew 45,398. In 1999 we drew 47,852.
I mean, I’m not really of the “sucking up can change reality” type, but you guys really thought that charm and salesmanship would really make a difference. It has.
For the record losing to Ball State isn’t that big of a shocker, they are Top 25 team…and if they wouldn’t have lost their best player to a broken back against IU, they would probably be even higher than they are. Ball State has a very good team.
DAC, did you notice who caused the fumble when Indy was going in to score. It was RC, you trash more players on this team with your know it all attitude than anyone that posts here. Last year it was Weber, this year it was Collado. You would not know a good football player if he sat on your face. I am a Gopher fan and I will not lower myself to calling you names. You are a protected class in our society now, so I understand you have a handicap.
It is really to bad that the interest has fallen off in Gopher football. With Bucky 0-2 and the Chickenhawks 0-2 in Big Ten play you would think that Gopher football would be hot. Even the Huskers are getting the butts kicked. 1-11 last year has to be the only reason that the fan interest is down. I think they will come back if we can get an upset win at Ill. or Purdue. The Big Ten is seperating fast this year. It looks like PSU and MSU could run away with it.
“DAC, did you notice who caused the fumble when Indy was going in to score.”
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Bud - They were not “going in to score”, we recovered on the Indiana 46 yard line after it had bounced forward for 10 yards. Perhaps you weren’t at the game or were you distracted trying to count how many people were there?
Maybe if the local media would actually do a story or two about the team and actually pay attention to the team themselves instead of the boring team in purple, the fans might get interested. Out of sight out of mind. I can’t even begin to explain how much I am bothered by the lack of coverage this team receives…no offense to you Kent, I know it comes from above.
A clueless Gopher basher says,
“DAC, did you notice who caused the fumble when Indy was going in to score.”
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Going in to score? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! You are dumber than a box of rocks.
Re, no need to discuss the fan situation as far as the count. We now have students acussing the season ticket holders of not showing up and the season ticket holders acussing the students of not showing up. I was at the game and the Indy drive was moving up the field. One of the only ones of the day. So do you at least agree that RC caused the fumble. Or would you have said we would have stoped them anyway.
DAC, I am sure glad that the coaching staff did not listen to you last spring. We have no Clint Brewster anymore and the 4 star wonder is no longer in school. The best two players on this team are Weber and Decker and all you did was cuse Weber out last year. How does it feel to be SO wrong.
I will agree that Collado caused the fumble.
In person, I really like the kid. The problem is he carried over some really bad habits from High School and his first year under Withers. He’s no longer the fastest guy on the field like he was in High School.
He needs to be aware of the ball and where the defense is in relation to the ball. As the last line of defense, he needs to balance the need to have time to react and going all out after the ball after he’s reacted a second late.
He could learn from Theret. Theret is not our fastest guy, but he’s got fantastic ball awareness.
Bud … I have never been wrong about Weber or Decker. You are a lying weasel to suggest it.
I said several times last year that Weber should have been sat down temporarily for his own good. If he doesn’t start doing a better job of looking off defenders and seeing the whole field he might need to sit down for a bit this year. He has far too much physical talent to be making this high school mistake after starting 18 games. The coaches cannot waste any more time teaching Weber this very fundamental aspect of good quarterbacking.
I have said many times here that Decker is the best college football player in America.
Your problem, Bud, is that you are a liar and a lightweight who cannot defend his very stupid comments. Go back to Iowa.
Wren, why do you keep spouting infactual drivel? “Replacing coaches after 3 years is what the U has done for 50 years?” Mason was here for a DECADE. He had the program improving and growing in his early years. Everyone loved him. NOBODY called for Mason’s head until he got passed up for the OSU job and he started sleeping on the job. The program became stale and the improvment stopped. He was here a DECADE! I’m sorry you think he should have stayed but (again) throughout the whole time you spouted your support of the PROGRAM not the coach. And yet you can’t bring yourself to give someone else even the benefit of the doubt. You blame others for running coaches out when that’s what you are trying to do on a daily basis. It’s sad and I feel sorry for you.
Scooter … Collado’s problem goes far behond ball awareness. He is just not physically able to match up with Big Ten receivers. He’s way to slow and way too small.
Illinois is going to kill us on Collado’s side of the field if he is out there the whole game. Here’s hoping they go with Stoudemire, who is at least much faster than Collado.
Theret is not our fastest guy, but he’s got fantastic ball awareness.
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Better than NYC Gopher Fan?
Here’s hoping they go with Stoudemire, who is at least much faster than Collado.
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Yes, DACSwift, speed is all there is to it so why don’t we recruit DBs from Jamaica?
Scooter, I mostly agree with you post on Collado. If you remember a couple of weeks ago I said in time (I didn’t think this fast) he would be an adequate BT def. back. He still hasn’t been tested deep, which was his biggest problem, but he is making progress. I’m happy for the kid, he got shell shocked last yr and right away this yr. He will probably never be a star and probably get most of his time as a nickle back, but he will be adequate. I also agree with DAC that he makes me nervous next week at Ill.
If #2 is in there, I expect Williams will throw up to 20 passes in his coverage. Why not?
IU must have completed 8-10 passes in front of Collado Saturday due the cush he gave the receivers. It appeared that Roof aligned the DB’s to allow him a cushion and rolled up #15.
The DB’s need a game where they don’t allow a long TD pass.
DAC, the coaching staff is not training a dog or a child. You do not sit him down or put him in time out for a mistake. By your statements I can really see the football in you.
Bud … You prove again you understand nothing about football. It is not a “mistake” to look at only one receiver on each play. It is wrong. Not a mistake, wrong.
Coaches are there to teach the right way to play football. Sometimes, to get a young athlete’s attention, you sit him down. Brewster took a 1,200-yard rusher out of the lineup last year because he fumbled twice.
Weber is not special on this team. He is one of the players and it is the job of the coaches to make him the best player possible.
Panty Hose says,
“Yes, DACSwift, speed is all there is to it so why don’t we recruit DBs from Jamaica?”
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LOL … Hilarious. Where do you “learn” your football, from the mastermind Bud?
Of course, genius, all things being equal you should always play the slowest guy you have. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!
If it were up to you and Bud, we would have guys with numbers in the 70s playing corner back. You two are real clowns.
loon says:
Last time IU played here (2006) we drew 44,610 following a loss at OSU.
In 2003 we drew 45,398. In 1999 we drew 47,852.
I mean, I’m not really of the “sucking up can change reality” type, but you guys really thought that charm and salesmanship would really make a difference. It has.
Loon, must say your response to your August quotes were BEYOND lame.
Who’s in jail, genius?
When do we hit rock bottom? cant be this year at 5-1, is it next year?
How about 2009, will these recruits ALL be gone?
Eat some crow you phony piece of crap.
And gee, the attendance numbers……
do you notice a trend in those numbers loon?
Hello: 47 to 45 to 44
Hmmm, what is that trend, loon.
Are you shocked its 41 with BTN?
As I have posted before, FB has sold its soul to TV, and people have to be very loyal or very crazy to spend that kind of money to have Mr Red Hat out there adding 30 minutes to a game.
It doesnt take a genius to figure out why people stay away, especially with all college and Viking games on TV.
And the economy and gas prices…..
Dont blame Brew, your own numbers show the trend well before this year.
1+1 = ?
(hint to recruiting, it’s 2)
You mean 2 like two balls?
And here I thought we would be taking a warm shower with you too tonight!
Here’s the attendance average trend andover:
1991 = 36,369
1992 = 37,908
1993 = 39,996
1994 = 42,309
1995 = 48,547
1996 = 43,519
1997 = 44,898
1998 = 41,642
1999 = 45,441
2000 = 47,352
2001 = 43,485
2002 = 41,785
2003 = 44,148
2004 = 47,573
2005 = 49,024
2006 = 52,206
2007 = 51,791 The NDSU crowd was 63,088
2008 = 38,000? so far
I remember very well how the deep thinkers thought “that buying out Mason will be more than paid for by increased attendance!” Under Mason attendance went up quite a bit, under Brewster?
Down so far.
The average attendance this year has been 42,750 thus far.
This program is headed on the right track. I couldn’t me more excited to be a Gopher fan right now. Keep it up coach Brew!
This program is headed on the right track. I couldn’t me more excited to be a Gopher fan right now. Keep it up coach Brew!
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Check back Sat afternoon….
Loon,
The 2006 season with Mase the Gophers were helped out greatly by the NDSU crowd also.
Life is good. The Gopher football program is on the right track, Bucky and the Hogeyes are struggling, and wren, Looney Toons and Pantherhog/Crudeboy continue their idiotic rantings, looking more ridiculous daily.
Life IS good.
Go Gophers!!!
goldohfour: Why not put NDSU opn the schedule more often then? It looks to me as though this brewster crapped his pants because he lost to NDSU and he would rather let the attendance decline rather than to actually do something to increase attendance. It would appear that this brewster is both fearful of NDSU and really doesn’t care about anything except drawing his own pay check. NDSU made a lot of sense as a money making ooc game.
Here’s a “shout-out” to that rescooter…
What a heck of a “joe-six-pack” kind of guy you are scooter! THANK YOU for hanging on every word I write. As for Mosaic and Deere, now is getting closer to a time to buy back in. Do you think that I would ever employ a “buy and hold” strategy duringtimes like these? Haven’t you ever heard of the use of puts? Haven’t you ever heard of profit-taking? I never worry about finding the absolute TOP of a market and I never know when an absolute BOTTOM of a market is about to hit. So, I use puts, sometimes write some covered calls that are deep in the money and get paid the remium to let someone else take my very profitable stocks off my hands at a very nice profit to me.
As for the future of Deere and Mosaic: many in the world go to bed hungry every night…there are large populations that crave and demand more protein and the world will continue to build and plant over the long haul. LEAPS on Deere are starting to look interesting. Once Mosaic levels off, it will most certainly be time to re-enter ownership of the common stock of Mosaic again.
When the market gets killed like this, there are many great opportunities that are created. Buy and hold with the portion of one’s portfolio that isn’t dedicated to TIPS is not a good strategy. The gyrations of the market should not be bought and held…but…can be traded. Long-term trends remain in place. In one to five years, energy prices will be going through the roof again when the right things happen…when the perfect storms hit…when the “great recession” has subsided and the world gets back to doing what the world will do.
scooter: keep following my every word. It will help you to survive the storms of the market. Study. Learn new strategy. Find out what tools are available to the investor. Use some common sense. It is always good to take some profits. Don’t be too greedy. Never be a pig: it is BAD to be a pig…it is too iowa-like.
I’m having a BLAST little scooter. Look for opportunities out there and don’t be afraid to act on the opportunities that are presented. Never be a pig scooter…that is the lesson for the day!
Not only did NDSU help attendance but so did people having to buy tickets to guarantee seats in the new stadium. I think those are #1 and #2. Mason had nothing to do with it going up the last few years.
Brewster must figure we will sell out TCF no matter the opponent which is not the case in the damn dome.
Don’t we have SDSU scheduled?
Wren,
Loon talked about how NDSU game helped the Gophers attendance in 2007 and I’m pointing out it also helped the Gophers in 2006. I play no favorites.
Never be a pig scooter…that is the lesson for the day!
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Wayne says, “never be a pig,” just look & smell like one! 
This brewster has had everything to do with it goind down this season and last season.
Mason had a heck of a lot to do with getting the stadium approved.
That being said, Mason didn’t win enough Big Ten football games, so he was fired. Where does that leave this brewster? 1-10? Man, he had best get his tail in gear and start winning SIGNIFICAN numbers of Big Ten games and fast. I don’t know if he can really afford to lose ANY more Big Ten games this season if he wants to get us beyond that stinking 3 to 5 Big Ten wins per year that you guys promised. So far this brewster has been slacking…a 1-10 big Ten record?????
And Mason taught everyone in the whole world that you don’t EVER let a coach keep coaching at the Univwersity of Minnesota if he ONLY wins 3 to 5 Big Ten games a season. You cut your losses FAST.
As I previously stated, for about the past 50 years or more, ONLY coaches who win National Championships can stay around for over 10 years. Then add up the replacement coaches and they average agout four to five years each. Throw out the cut/run guys who last ALOMST 2 seasons. You end up with a new coach every four or five years.
HOWEVER, as I stated: it is 2008. You now need to cut the turn-over time down to about THREE years. IF this brewster doesn’t average OVER 3 to 5 Big Ten wins during his first THREE years, get rid of him! That means that since he won ZERO Big Ten games during his first season (the THROW AWAY season) that by the end of the 2009 season if he has only 9 to 15 Big Ten wins…it is time to run his butt out of town on a rail. The way I see it, he doesn’t have MORE than 8 Big Ten wins at the end of the 2009 season, he needs to go. IF he has only 8 Big Ten wins during his first three seasons, he will have done as poorly as the failed Mason. (Should I say the failed…fired Mason.)
Time is money and there is no longer time to keep around a coach over three seasons who isn’t winning SIGNIFICANT numbers of Big Ten games.
This brewster needs at least 3 Big Ten wins in 2008 and five big Ten wins in 2009 to even keep up with the fired Mason. They either do it or they don’t. Three years is enough time and all that can be given to an inexperienced coach in this day and age. This isn’t the 1970’s 80’s opr even 90’s any longer. Time is money and time is wasting when there aren’t ENOUGH Big Ten wins produced…
Why in the world would anyone suspect a moron who sits in front of a computer typing the same idiotic jibberish 50 times a day would also be a buy and hold investor riding down to nothing?
But maybe his meth business is good enough to stay afloat.
Wren,
If you do your math correctly, which in the past has been pretty difficult for you. You will find that Mase averaged 3.2 Big Ten wins a season. Averaging 3 to 5 Big Ten wins is REALLY putting a spin on Mason’s Big Ten record.
I think even IF Brewster won a National Championship next year, you would still think he needs to be fired.
Wren,
Why is Brewster able to win some games right now? You said in the past Brewster is more interested in recruiting then coaching. I know this season isn’t over and we play tougher teams coming up, but before the season started you felt it was impossible for Brewster to beat Eden Prairie High School. How in the world did Brewster win 5 games so far this season?
goldohfour: Mason got fired for winning between 3 and 5 Big Ten games a year. This brewster, so far has won between 0 and 1 Big Ten game. Hopefully he will get two more during the 2008 season, which would mean that he would have won between 0 and 3 games per season for the two years that he has managed to hold onto his job. Coaches get fired for not winning ENOUGH Big Ten games goldohfour, you KNOW that.
This brewster could sure use a Big Ten win down at the U of Illinois on Saturday. He needs to have the kids ready to play from the opening gun. He needs to put the pressure on them to execute and come home with a win. Wins are good. Losses hurt. ESPECIALLY in Big Ten play.
They never should have extended Mason the first time OR the second time based upon what the mobbers and bashers did to work against Mason for so many years
During Mason’s first three years he had 1 Big Ten win, two Big Ten wins plus five Big Ten wins for a total of 8 Big Ten wins out of 24 Big Ten games coached. This brewster has what? 1 Big Ten win and counting with 10 Big Ten games completed. He has to win SEVEN out of the next FOURTEEN to even equal what the fired Mason did in his first three seasons. I can’t help it that prexy b and maturi were SO foolish to have extended Mason for the second time for five more years, only to buy him out the next year. It looks to me as though they were totally incompetent to have done such a costly thing just in order to insure that the legislature would have a coach who had defeated Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State making a stadium pitch…AND selling the naming rights deal to TCF BANK. prexy b and maturi should be put out to pasture for THAT bonehead move!
We haven’t hit the Big 10 schedule yet! You’re taking full season #’s and comparing them to a non-conf. schedule and Indiana! This isn’t apples to oranges, it’s like mountains to valleys. It’s just an futile convestation. Talk to me about numbers after the Michigan and Iowa games are played. It’ll be about the exact same as the last couple years.
goldohfour, since long before they played any games this year I have expected a 7-5 record and a trip to a bowl game. The schedule is SO easyu this year, that I knew it would take this brewster a lot of messing up to lose any of the ooc games. I have also expected that this brewster should beat Indiana, NU and iowa in the dome in the EASIEST home Big Ten schedule I have perhaps EVER seen.
2009 will be MUCH more difficult to get wins. The 2007 season should have set up for many wins that this brewster threw away. The 2008 schedule just plain sets up for wins. Wins are good. Losses hurt. That’s the story.
Now, this brewster needs to get out there and win significant numbers to Big Ten games. What do you kool-aid drinkers have against that? What a bunch of shabby excuse makers you are…
“goldohfour: Mason got fired for winning between 3 and 5 Big Ten games a year.”
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Or you could say Mason got fired after ten years for winning somewhere between three and twenty Big Ten games a year. Makes as much sense.
How can this Whyne Wrenbawl spend so much time regurgitating monkey talk when he has a drug business to run?
What’s up with “this brewster?” His name is Tim Brewster not “this brewster.”
The Gophers are facing two significant problems going into Champaign this Saturday.
The obvious one is the loss of Sherels at corner, at least for this game. He is a big part of why the defense is playing so much better this year.
The options Saturday are Collado, the freshman Troy Stoudemire, or maybe moving Simoni Lawrence back to corner and playing Mannion in his spot.
The pros and cons of the options are several. We have seen about 10 games worth of Collado and we know the danger of him being exploited badly. However, he is a sophomore with that game experience and he knows the system. I suspect he will start the game at corner and play as long as he holds up reasonably well. But we can expect Zook and Juice to go right after him to find out.
The Stoudemire option is interesting because he has already shown himself to be one of the fastest and most athletic guys on the team. He has a lot of natural ability and maybe, just maybe, he is good enough to step in under fire just like TDeLeon did at running back. I would like to see Stoudemire get some time at corner to see how well he plays.
The safest option may be to go with Lawrence at corner even though that takes away a little of our defensive plan where he is playing now. But Mannion can play the spot even though he is not as good up along the line of scrimmage as Lawrence. But he drops into coverage pretty well. This option would keep two older guys on the field and not hurt us athletically as Collado does.
But, as I said, I think Collado will start and nothing would make me happier than to see him perform well and become the third reliable corner. Depth is the key to winning in the Big Ten. You need backups at all positions who are ready to step in and play. We don’t have anything near that yet.
The other huge concern based on performance against Indiana is the offensive line. They were, frankly, awful. They gave Weber no protection and they couldn’t open so much as a crevice for the running game. I was shocked to see our offensive line dominated by Indiana. That unit is going to need to play a lot better this week if we are going to have a chance to win.
Gopher1 …. Whyne Renbawls’ wife has called him “this monkey” or “this dolt” for so many years he just thinks that’s natural.
david_allan_coe says:
October 7th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Gopher1 …. Whyne Renbawls’ wife has called him “this monkey” or “this dolt” for so many years he just thinks that’s natural.
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Hilarious! DAC, you’re in mid-season form. Let’s hope the Gophers are as well against the Illini.
GOPHER1 says:
October 7th, 2008 at 11:48 am
What’s up with “this brewster?” His name is Tim Brewster not “this brewster.”
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How about, Punky Dickheadster?
Rescooter says:
October 6th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
“DAC, did you notice who caused the fumble when Indy was going in to score.”
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Bud - They were not “going in to score”, we recovered on the Indiana 46 yard line after it had bounced forward for 10 yards. Perhaps you weren’t at the game or were you distracted trying to count how many people were there?
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BOX.
The obvious one is the loss of Sherels at corner, at least for this game.
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Polish up those excuses early, DAChead!!! How can Sherrels be that important, after all, he is part of mason’s “bare cupboard?”
Panty Hose takes a moment to introduce himself,
“Hello, I’m Punky Dickheadster?”
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Glad to meet you, dickhead, although that doesn’t quite resonate like ….
“Hello, I’m Johnny Cash.”
The Loon says:
October 6th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Here’s the attendance average trend andover:
1991 = 36,369
1992 = 37,908
1993 = 39,996
1994 = 42,309
1995 = 48,547
1996 = 43,519
1997 = 44,898
1998 = 41,642
1999 = 45,441
2000 = 47,352
2001 = 43,485
2002 = 41,785
2003 = 44,148
2004 = 47,573
2005 = 49,024
2006 = 52,206
2007 = 51,791 The NDSU crowd was 63,088
2008 = 38,000? so far
I remember very well how the deep thinkers thought “that buying out Mason will be more than paid for by increased attendance!” Under Mason attendance went up quite a bit, under Brewster?
Down so far.
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Nice try Loon.
Attendence under Mason using your own numbers: 45,755
Attendence under Brewster: 47,270 This number will most certainly go up with games at home versus Michigan and Iowa.
Attendence in Mason’s first two years: 43,270.
Panty Hose … Talking facts is not excuse-making. Indeed, Marcus is part of the very limited talent Mason left behind. And there are some damn good ones besides Sherels including the best college football player in America and a very good quarterback.
What I have tried many times to get through your head of mush, panties, is that it takes depth at every position to win in the Big Ten. Mason left about one third of the required good players to be a winner. It will take three recruiting classes to have the horses we need to compete for a Big Ten championship.
Oui oui, poppy, it gets me sooooo hot when I hear you talk about your investment strategies! Tell them how you and mama showed me and sissy how to “cover a naked straddle” right on our kitchen table!
There 13,900 people in attendence. 9,472 that were not recruits or in the band.
david_allan_coe says:
October 7th, 2008 at 11:37 am
“goldohfour: Mason got fired for winning between 3 and 5 Big Ten games a year.”
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Or you could say Mason got fired after ten years for winning somewhere between three and twenty Big Ten games a year. Makes as much sense.
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3 to 5? What about the years below 3? Funny how you left them out Wayne WRENdahl.
Kent-
I didn’t see your mention of Pittman. Unless something dramatically has changed, Pittman is more likely to receive a medical redshirt this year than be returning punts. A torn hammy is a nasty injury and plantar is like walking on glass.
Scooter … What’s your preferred option at corner this week?
Derek … He has been on the field in at least three games. What are the rules on medical redshirt? Is it specific or arbitrary where they just review each case individually?
If a player participates in more than 20% of the games they cannot medical red-shirt.
Preferred option at corner (the top 3):
1) Tramaine Brock cloned
2) Troy Stoudemire
3) Ryan Collado
I think Lawrence is too valuable as a LineBacker. They need a legitimate blitz threat and also someone to keep up with Juice. Even though Stoudemire is a freshman, he’s shown the moxie to make the big plays.
So Pittman is already ineligible for medical redshirt.
Scooter … Agree it would be a shame to move Lawrence out of the scheme he is in right now.
My only point was that by moving Lawrence you are effectively trading having Collado or a true freshman (Stoudemire) on the field for having Mannion on the field.
I am comfortable too with having Triplett on the field but he is not quick enough to play the role Roof has fashioned for Lawrence.
Scooter would like to see Tramaine Brock cloned.
That, my friend, is why the Gopher head coaching job right now breaks out to be 50% recruiting, 30% player development, and 20% game prep and game day coaching.
We need clones of Brock, Lawrence, Campbell, Hightower, Weber and all the other good players. We need to be at least two deep in quality and even three deep.
That is why recruiting is still the big picture and it will be going forward.
Now look at what Brewster is trying to do at running back. If he lands the two Texas 4-stars who have verbally committed, that would give us tremendous depth at running back looking ahead … Bennett, Eskridge, Thomas, Salaman, Waley, and the two freshmen four stars.
That is the way you have to look at every position to be a conference contender.
Are you caslling my house again dereck? why don’t you meet me man to man? if I see you at a game or event you are going to be bleeding buddy.
am i gay if i only suck one man’s crank? i don’t think so but what do you guys think? my wife says i might be but i just have so much love and admiration for Tim Brewster i just want to give and give and give to that guy. I must say I think i am getting pretty good at it too because he no longer watchs tv while i do it!
What’s the update on Duane Bennett? Is he gone for the season? Couldn’t remember.
speeking of cranksuckers, is it a coinsidence that topic [pops up] when nyc shows up?
NYC … Bennett is gone for the year.
Wren … I think even you are smart enough to figure out that Cruding Panty Hose posted that filth. He lives in it.
And wren didn’t write that comment either.
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