Gray update
Posted on November 12th, 2008 – 12:08 PMBy Kent Youngblood
Greetings.
Just got off the phone with MarQueis Gray.
This is one happy guy. He said he got the news of his qualifying ACT score at 6 a.m. this morning. That’s when his tutor called the house. Gray’s mom took the call, then went and woke up her son with the news. What a way to start the day.
”I can’t describe the feelings I’m going through right now,” he said.
Gray was heading out to his daily workout when I reached him. Gray has been trying to stay in shape during his time back home in Indianapolis. He’s worked out on his own and spent a lot of time working out with his old high school team. He’s been running, throwing and lifting.
Gray said he wanted to thank all the friends, teammates — and fans — who have expressed support over the past couple months. He said he has received an incredible amount of support, in texts, e-mails, and postings on Facebook.
”I knew I was going to pass,” Gray said of his ACT test. ”I put so much into studying. I was working hard with my tutor, who kept telling me I would pass.”
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Good work MarQueis! Hard work often pays off in life.
Go Gophers!!
great news. tell him he sould be able to start.
Nice Job man. I can’t wait to see you in Maroon and Gold
The ‘03 Minnesota 37-34 win vs. Wisconsin is on the Big Ten Network right now. Here is hoping that Gray can leave this program as a God like Barber and Maroney.
By the way, what a backfield!!! Tapeh, Barber & Maroney in one backfield. Not to mention Eslinger and Setterstrom on the line in front of you and Spaeth and Utecht lining up in a 2 TE set. That is seven NFL players lining up on offense. Montgomery and Reid on defense and Rhys Lloyd at Kicker makes 10 NFL’ers on the roster. By far the best talent Mason ever had at one time.
The 03 team was the team to get over the hump, then Michigan happened and the rest is history.
G1–right on the money.
I smoked a pack of cigs at the bar watching the Michigan game in 03
i don’t smoke that many cigs most years
Gray getting in to school is huge. I said this earlier but I think it bears repeating. A friend of mine was one of the athletic trainers during the whole Army all-star event saw Gray play in the game and practice before. He saw a lot of upside potential in him and said he was a “nice kid” on top of it. Great addition to the program.
Great job MarQueis. I can’t wait to see you on the field next seson!
MarQueis Gray should already be accepted by the “U” and he should be able to participate in spring practices as though this was a redshirt year. Many of these guys disappear into jucos after an experience like this, and it speaks pretty well for this young guy to focus on getting himself eligible.
In yrs past Gopher coaches would have lost this kind of player. Sid blaming the Admissions office, the school Administration and anyone else working at the U. Today with smarter coaches and better relationships this player actually wants to come back. Boy have times changed.
Since we have been on the topic of the ‘03 Michigan debacle, tell me if I am wrong in this thought. That 40 years from now when we are all still talking about the Gophs, we will all remember where we were during that train wreck of a game.
Normally I would want to be a hardass and mention that most of us didn’t get tutors just to pass the ACT or SAT tests, but as sad as it sounds… all that matters is that he will make this team better, and until the school gets it’s finances in order for the students… I am just going to support the athletes who are actually MAKING ALL THE MONEY for the school!
Is the score a secret?
The score is not required to be reported. All I have heard Marqueis told people is that he scored high enough to be eligible.
Regarding the actual score, Marcus Fuller had this quote in his blog:
“I don’t know my score yet, but all I know is that I passed and it feels great.”
Apparently, the notification was from the NCAA Clearinghouse and not ACT.
This is the best news since wrenbawl and buffloon were arrested at the border.
Grunkie said
By the way, what a backfield!!! Tapeh, Barber & Maroney in one backfield. Not to mention Eslinger and Setterstrom on the line in front of you and Spaeth and Utecht lining up in a 2 TE set. That is seven NFL players lining up on offense. Montgomery and Reid on defense and Rhys Lloyd at Kicker makes 10 NFL’ers on the roster. By far the best talent Mason ever had at one time.
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I generally agree, grunkie. However I was always bothered by the fact Eslinger and Setterstrom could come in and start as first year freshmen. That speaks to me of the talent level of Mason’s teams.
Does anyone have an idea if the current O-line will be able to mature into a decent line with experience and maturity, or we have to wait for Brew’s recruiting skills to bring in linemen at the level of the qb’s, rb’s and wr’s he’s bringing in and then wait for them to develop and mature?
DAC. You absolutely make me LMAO!!!!!-:0
I’ll talk to my friend that is a GA at Nebraska and works with the o-line when I have a chance but it may not come until after the season.
As an observation though Mason did an excellent job of recruiting lineman that fit his system. While I was watching the ‘03 game the announcers went off on a tangent about the line that seems to speak to our situation now. They stressed the difference between the Wisc. line which averaged over 300 lbs and the MN line which didn’t have a single guy that was 300 lbs. The difference is that Minnesota wanted smaller more athletic line man that could pull and get in front of someone and then chop block them. Wisconsin’s line wanted to push someone down the field.
Brewster is looking for the same type of lineman that Wisconsin was/is recruiting which means that Mason’s guys are undersized for the scheme we are running. This isn’t new news, we have all been talking about this for a while but it was very telling. It will take time to add bulk to the lineman and build their bodies to fit the new scheme. They should be better next year but it remains to be seen how much improvement they can make with another off season of weight training.
Thanks, grunkiejr
nc-mn–Line-men will mature and get stronger. It is the position that age really makes a diff. It’s not uncommon for a lineman to put 200 lbs. on his bench and gain 50+ lbs on his frame. This doesn’t usually happen 1-2 yr.s out of HS. 19 vs. 22 or 23 yr. olds is alot of diff.
6′6″ and 320lb is the proto-type and what Wisky will put on the field in front of a couple of 235-240LB RB’s and 260 Lb FB.
A line like Texas Tech’s OL should be against the law.
IMO, our 2009 OL will be improved but not the caliber that we need to be a contender come November. Guys like Tow-Arnett, Burris, Tavale, Meinke are maxed out physically. RS Wynn, Orton and Davis and the addition of Carufel are the keys
these comments are becoming my man soap opera. the posturing between nameless faceless keyboards is almost hysterical.
“Since we have been on the topic of the ‘03 Michigan debacle, tell me if I am wrong in this thought. That 40 years from now when we are all still talking about the Gophs, we will all remember where we were during that train wreck of a game.”
I would take that game every time over what we saw on Saturday. For that game we were alive, on Saturday we were without hope.
I said it last summer, where were the 08 OL recruits. You never take a year off in filling potential holes with good recruits on the O & D lines. The game of football starts with the snap and only the lines can truly seize on the opportunities of the snap. Brewster is going to have to recruit more than 2 per year. We did not get our quota of linemen last year with the exception of the d. This year we are still short of o-line recruits. We are also short again on linebacker recruits. Brewster will have a highly ranked recruiting class but we will be short of balanced talent without these two areas being broadened.
Do you know if there is a Bath & Bodyworks in Madison?
Congratulations MarQueis! Here’s to your continued success on and off the field! Go Gophers!
Gopher1—two games will stay with me forever, the meltdowns agst Michigan and Texas Tech. Those were just excruciating games to watch. If we can keep Weber and Gray healthy it is the perfect setup with the 2 year eligibility difference. I don’t want to look past the UW game, but I still think we are on track long-range.
Nice JOB! should be interesting with Weber, Alipate and Gray next yr.
A drug-infested loonatic, referring to the infamous collapse at home against Michigan, says,
“I would take that game every time over what we saw on Saturday. For that game we were alive, on Saturday we were without hope.”
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I agree buffonloon.
One Old … Perhaps it is time you woke up.
Brewster inherited the worst defense in the history of college football. There was only one sensible recruiting focus and that was defense. He did that, thank goodness.
We have 11 young offensive linemen. They will be joined next year by Carufel and three or maybe four rookies. We have plenty of people to work with on the offensive line.
Without a defense you have no football team. Period.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!! Look at the moron loonaticwrenbawl trying to put down Marqueis Gray who is probably at least 100 points higher in IQ than the odious wrenbawlblatherloonatic.
d_a_c-off, lmmfaoaycsgpc! Your transparent studwell-like attempt to do something and accuse someone else of doing it is just such a studwellish/kelly leeks/ jike-the hand-jive-jobber gopher holeish drunkalogue inspired dirty trick. You gh/gi people are lame. So slack-off d_a_c-off. lmmfaoycspwwtiutaanl. How studwellish can you get?
wrenbawlblather … I see you made no attempt to deny that Gray has an IQ at least 100 points higher than the combined IQ of you and your mule loonatic.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!
This game on Saturday is probably the MOST important game this brewster has ever been in charge of. The 2nd half of the Big Ten season hangs in the balance of this wisky game and then the “the day the damn dome era dies…” game with iowa.
I’d say that he HAS to win one of these games. It would be better if he would win BOTH of these two games. It is a case of sending a message. By winning you send a STRONG message. By losing whether you want to or not, you send the message that the 2nd half of the Big Ten season ended: “…not with a bang…but…with a whimper…” If you lose them both, the overall Big Ten record drops to 3-13.
And, while the 2009 season brings the TCF BANK STADIUM era, it also brings a much more difficult schedule with which to improve the Big Ten win/loss record with. 3-13 is kind of tough to improve drastically when you have road Big Ten games at PSU, OSU and iowa. Even IF you win the other five, your Big Ten record would only improve to 8-16. That would be a 33.3% winning record in the Big Ten. If you win LESS than 5 Big Ten games, which could happen with MSU and wisky on the home game schedule, the record could dip down to the 25% winning record area. That would be a dangerous place to be after 3 sesons. Very dangerous, indeed.
I know he certainly has a higher iq than you do d_a_c-off!
wrenbawlbabyblather … If he has a higher IQ than me, we are in for some good times. Not you … you hate the Gophers. But for the rest of us, yes.
By the way, wrenbawls, how smart do you have to be to cook chemicals in your backyard?
d_a_c-off: you are so obsessed with cooking chemicals. It is obvious that things are BEAKING BAD for you and it is obvious what a low-rent dude/dudette you are and always have been.
You shouldn’t hijack other people’s monikers…that’s just not kosher…but…then you sure as heck aren’t a kosher kind of dude/dudette are you? How is that nasty hole in your head coming along? The odds of recurrence probably are pretty high arent they. Or, even sadder yet is if there is no recruuence, in your case.
Now: “cut that out…” Is that what the surgeon had to say to you, you nasty dude or dudette. Or, did you just make the entire, messy affair up? That wouldn’t surprise me in the least. You are kind of studwell like and kelly leeks like in your sociopathic, pointless existence. Fantasy and make-believe. Lots of video games. Stoop to any level behaviors. d_a_c-off, d_a_c-off, d_a_c-off, you are such a sorry dude or dudette.
Grunk–your O-lineman analysis was spot on. You did a better job of saying it than I have done. A lot of people just don’t understand the nuances of the game. That is why Brewster has to be given 4 years to see what he can do with his players and schemes. I am trying to convince myself to be patient.
Mase never won in Wisconsin and never really came close. If Brewster wins on Saturday with no Decker and no running game then he deserves to have a statue of him in the Beirman building.
I have rarely been wrong but I see almost NO chance of us winning. If the weather is bad and we can’t pass we are really in trouble. With us just having ONE healthy back in true freshmen Eskridge our running game is NO where near Wisconsins. It might get ugly. Next year with a lot more RB things will be different.
I HOPE I’m wrong but as WREN and LOON can testify it rarely does that happen! If we win the Ax then Brewster DESERVES a ton of credit.
Mase NEVER won in Wisconsin and never really came close. On Saturday we have NO chance of winning in Wisconsin. With NO Decker and NO running game it’s going to be tough. Think about it! We are now reallying on all TRUE freshmen recievers(Green, Smith, Mcknight) and ONE true freshmen running back(Eskridge). If we win this game then Brewster deserves to have a stautue of him in the Bierman building.
Plus, if the weather is bad and we can’t pass then it’s going to get ugly. One true Freshmen (Eskridge) RB is not close in comparing our running game to Wisconsin’s running game. Wisconsin has a HUGE advantage in bad weather. Even with Mason’s RB system, we’d have trouble running the ball.
RARELY have I been wrong. Wren and Loon can testify to that. If we win, I’d GLADLY have crow for dinner, but I just don’t see that happening. If the Gophers win then Brewster and his team pulled off a miracle and deserve a ton of credit.
Sorry for the double post, I thought my first one didn’t work.
Gold4, did you hit your head getting out of bed this morning?
Our football team is already at the bottom of the conference in GPA and graduation rate, yet brewster keeps giving away free rides like they are lollipops to kids who can’t walk and chew gum at the same time. If his intent is to turn MN football into the Florida State of the Big 10, I have no interest. I would rather we drop the sport and will voice this opinion to every member of the regents, AD and admissions department that I can. I am not anti-sports, just concerned that we are spending $100k per year on ’students’ who have little to 0 chance of graduating. There are more deserving HS students out there.
Best WIN ever against the Badgers 1993. We took their national championship away from them. The Badgers only lose of the 1993 season. The next year was the secound best win when we went into camp Randall and beat them on home coming after they talked all year about pay back. We can win on sat. but the Badgers are going to have to help us. If they turn the ball over giving it to us with a short field we can score. Our constancy with the young players will not enable us to drive the ball down the field on them. Our defense will be tested with the Badgers power run game. Their QB is nothing special and not a threat to run so we will just have to hit them play after play and hope there is no brake downs.
IF this brewster doesn’t win in wisky on Saturday he is NO better than Mason. In fact, he is NOT as good a Wacker, who did win in wisky! IF he can’t do as well as Wacker, he probably is on a crash course with disaster.
You just make excuses for this brewster’s MANY shortcomings goldohfour.
The records of the two teams would suggest that this bad badger team is a VERY bad badger team. They have really sucked all season long.
I contend that there is NO reason why this brewster should not be expected to mop-up this pathetic bad badger team on Saturday.
IF this brewster wins at wisky on Saturday, it should ONLY be expected of him. IF he loses, he will have blown another game against a team that is below his team in the standings. In other words, he will have blown another Big Ten game against at bottom tier Big Ten team. The stinking bad badgers have only won two Big Ten games this year. They are pathetic.
I have no confidence in this brewster’s ability to have his players ready to play. I hope I am wrong, but, this brewster’s Big Ten record since he took over this program is sitting at 3-11. That has been a real disappointment. IF this brewster loes on Saturday he will NEED to step up to the plate and accept his responsibility in failing to have had a decen game plan that his players would execute.
Wacker won in madison: the LEAST we can do is to EXPECT this brewster to win in madison.
This comment is intended ONLY for you goldohfour. It is for you just because you are the way you are. ;0)
Oh my …. It would appear a nerve was hit with a certain dirtbag skirting on the edges of the law. ROTFLMAO!!!!
gold04, arent’t you the diprod who was talking national championship a few weeks ago?
Wren, you forget this is Brewsters first try to win in Wisconsin. I think Wacker had three and Mase had five.
Mase and Wacker lost to Alveraz in Wisconsin when they had down years also. If we win, it would be a miracle and only Jesus Christ could perform something greater.
Wren,
I’m suprised you called me a zero. I know my posts have had a big influence on your life. It saddens me to see that!
Good point MBA99. I can not believe the Univ. would admit a student after that student was questioned for cheating. RS is different because he just had to keep taking the test like TC until he recieved a passing score. MG was flagged on a test that he supposedly took and ask to retake the test and recieved a score much lower than the contested ACT. The Univ. has lowered their standards just a little to much for my liking and I have to side with you on that one. The major problem with recruiting is these kids lose their right to privacy when it comes to grades. Once someone does not show up, everyone wants to know why and in most cases someone leaks their grades or test score. It is unfortunate but the cost of being recruited in todays society.
Concerned Gopher MBA99 says:
November 13th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Our football team is already at the bottom of the conference in GPA and graduation rate, yet brewster keeps giving away free rides like they are lollipops to kids who can’t walk and chew gum at the same time. If his intent is to turn MN football into the Florida State of the Big 10, I have no interest. I would rather we drop the sport and will voice this opinion to every member of the regents, AD and admissions department that I can. I am not anti-sports, just concerned that we are spending $100k per year on ’students’ who have little to 0 chance of graduating. There are more deserving HS students out there.
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What kind of an egotistic boor would put “MBA99″ in his moniker?
I am SOOOOOOOOOO impressed! NOT!
TFC,
Just let me remind you.
I’ve been dead on these last two years about the Gophers.
2007 - I said we’d be terrible and lose to Bowling Green. Who’s laughing now.
2008 - I said 8 wins and no one thought that was possible.
Before you get all excited be careful who you pick your fights with. Remember I said COULD win a NC. I’m still leaning toward 10 wins in 2009, but if the ball bounces our way, your never know!
Bud says:
November 13th, 2008 at 8:55 am
Good point MBA99. I can not believe the Univ. would admit a student after that student was questioned for cheating. RS is different because he just had to keep taking the test like TC until he recieved a passing score. MG was flagged on a test that he supposedly took and ask to retake the test and recieved a score much lower than the contested ACT. The Univ. has lowered their standards just a little to much for my liking and I have to side with you on that one. The major problem with recruiting is these kids lose their right to privacy when it comes to grades. Once someone does not show up, everyone wants to know why and in most cases someone leaks their grades or test score. It is unfortunate but the cost of being recruited in todays society.
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Which is precisely why I want to know his most recent score! Again, if he scored 21 before–on his own–went home and studied for 2 months before retaking, he should have hit 25, correct? No way he would have regressed from that 21, correct? Or is there a way?? lol Come on punky, the public is not as dumb as most of these old, toothless, retiree homers you have snowed who hang around here all day!! Get that score out….lets all celebrate this student’s progression together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you guys have valid concerns about academics. Heck even Mason had to babysit Russell in keeping him on the team. Of all the teams, I respect NW the most. Look what they have done these last 20 years in the Big Ten with high academic standards. Of any team, they deserve the most credit.
I find it more than ironic that people like Bud harp about academic standards when their command of the English language (i.e., spelling, grammar, punctuation) is so poor. There are others on this board who are upper/lower case and spelling challenged who also have no credibility whatsoever.
Jimbo, I do not harp on academics. I have always said there are rules in place and if they are in then they are in. I also know I can not spell but I will match my bottom line with yours any day. I did score an 1110 on my SAT in the day but there was no spelling on the test. And my children say they have not added spelling to the ACT or SAT so if what you are trying to say is I am an idiot because I can not spell then you are wrong. You slip into you little DAC modes every now and then Jimbo and it makes you look like a jock sniffer.
Gold4, just so you have your facts straight in 1993 Whisky won the Big Ten and played in the Rose Bowl and in 1994 they went 9-3 and played in Tampa on Jan. 2nd. I would say that those are two pretty good Wisc. Teams Wacker beat. One at home and one on the road.
jimbo: why do you spend so much time trying to put all these people down that you contend are so much “less” than you? Your attempts to put others below only elevates them WAY above you. You are so insecure and such a pathetic individual.
You are no better than anyone you attempt to classify. Don’t you get it? Your self-promotion only lowers you. In the end, you stand naked in front of God and the undertaker who will put a shirt on you to cover you in case you have an open casket funeral. You will be judged as you try to judge others….just some poor stiff who lived, died and never really mattered much in the grand scheme of things. That would be you jimbo. Your attempts to try to lord yourself over others does not work. You, of course are as pathetic as those you are so desperate to try to slam. You won’t be able to fool the Undertaker and on Judgement Day, you may not be as populiar as you have always tried to tell others you were.
And…Big Ten WINS are needed in the worst way! :0)
Yo
Bud, income and wealth do not necessarily belie intelligence.
However, spelling and grammar are BASIC skills that, I believe, people need to master at a very early age. It is an exception (apparently you are one) when people lacking basic skills achieve success.
Jimbo, are you the english teacher that wants to take more of my money in taxes so you can teach my children where to put a period or question mark. Math and science are the only subjects that should be taught in school today. With all the history and Lit. that has been twisted in our childrens books today we should push them towards math and science so they can get a good paying job when they graduate. When I speak I have know problem getting my point across and when I dictate someone else makes sure the letter is perfect.
Again, I notice that this/that/them/those wren has directed a comment at me.
Sir, I no longer direct comments at you. Please afford me the same courtesy.
Jimbo, I do not know what circles you move in but some of my most wealthy clients I have just made it out of high school. You would be surprised at how many self made millionaires there are in this country. I do not let my lack of spelling ability frighten me off this site or anywhere else in my daily life. I am what I am and I make no excusses for it.
Bud, I am as conservative politically as they come. But I also value education and the application of learned skills.
It’s silly to say people don’t need to know how to communicate properly, and that if someone values literacy they are leaning toward the left.
jimbo: once again you wrote a comment directed to me. You also try to make references to me. You will be treated by me exactly the way you try to treat me in thought, word, reference, inuendo, and/or any other way. You want to play…you must pay.
You gotta love it, don’t you jimbo? You state an opinion…I will state mine. Better bring it with you when you come on the board jimbo. It will be what it will be.
Bud, I’m not talking about post-high school education. The smartest man I ever knew never spent one day in college.
I’m talking about BASIC skills. That’s all.
Do I hear crickets?
By the way, Bud, I move in the “circles” I choose to move in. I have friends who are very successful financially, and I have friends who struggle. They are all friends, though, and none of them (or I) measure character by wealth or income.
I agree with Jimbo here. Putting MBA in your moniker just comes off as arrogant. You don’t see me typing grunkiejr, CFA after my my name or and DAC doesn’t use DAC, DDS. That is just lame.
And Recruiting, you’re not be rational with ACT score improvement. If Gray scored a 25 hit test probably would have been flagged by the NCAA again. I’m going back a long way but I remember them teachers telling us that if it is very rare for a score to jump 3 points or more. The reason that Gray’s score jumped the from the first to second test is because he hired a tutor. Unfortunately the score jumped too much so the NCAA flagged it. This does not amount to an allegation of cheating–maybe suspicion-but not an outright allegation. Because of the degree of improvement they make a student prove or verify the test score by retaking the test.
I don’t know his score either but if you are looking for 25 you will be disappointed. Also, if you want to allege cheating based on this score being lower than the last one that doesn’t really prove anything either.
Concerned MBA99–Do really think it costs $100,000 a year for a scholarship? Not even graduate school would cost that much. Good exaggeration.
I don’t know why people are saying that Gray doesn’t have a chance of graduating. This isn’t a case of not scoring well enough to get in to school. Prior to taking his second test that may have been a concern. However, he has now taken the test 3 times and he has scored high enough for admittance to school twice. His score was flagged because he improved so much and the NCAA makes test takers prove their test score by doing it again.
“Once someone does not show up, everyone wants to know why and in most cases someone leaks their grades or test score.”
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Leak their test scores, Bud? Or do you mean plant lies that Gopher haters such as yourself, wrenbawlblabber, and loon can run with?
If you have proof Gray cheated on his test state it. Otherwise stuff it.
Jumbo asks,
“What kind of an egotistic boor would put “MBA99″ in his moniker?”
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In his case it means “Might Be Able” to pass third grade in four attempts.
Jimbo says:
November 13th, 2008 at 9:45 am
Bud, I am as conservative politically as they come. But I also value education and the application of learned skills.
It’s silly to say people don’t need to know how to communicate properly, and that if someone values literacy they are leaning toward the left.
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This must mean you have issues with the dunces punky is bring to the U, right?
grunkiejr says:
November 13th, 2008 at 9:55 am
I agree with Jimbo here. Putting MBA in your moniker just comes off as arrogant. You don’t see me typing grunkiejr, CFA after my my name or and DAC doesn’t use DAC, DDS. That is just lame.
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Perhaps because neither of you idiots carry thos credentials? More like members of the trash collectors union local 449…….
d_a_c-off has his HIH certificate to comfort him during the tough, winter times. When it gets cold outside, does that mean he has a “numb-skull of the zero degree level?…”
DAC, the scores posted in the Star must have been correct or they would have been taken to court for the miss print. The scores listed where 13/15/22/16. The retake of the retake was the score MG just recieved. He is in and that is that. I am surprised that the U did let him in. Again a football scholarship is a talent award, not an academic scholarship so I have no problem with the U letting talented athletes into the Univ. to make our football program the best it can be. It is no different than a band scholarship. MG is in so that is that. There where still a high number of players in the last recruiting class that did not get into school. What I am trying to figure out is do these late makes count back or do they have to count forward. As you have pointed out in an earlier post we have 30 plus Jr’s on the team. This I do know we can only sign 25 in a class. Thus the JC cycle begins.
Grades are important, but don’t forget that a winning FB team will also increase all donations to the U. The last time Mich. won the Rose Bowl, their nonathletic donations went up almost 20 %. So if you want donations for your Bus. School,you should hope for a winning FB program. Alumni that are proud of their school give more.
When will this brewster win his 4th Big Ten game?
1. 2009 season?
2. 2010 season?
3. November 15, 2008?
Bud:
Can you source the Star Tribune article that lists Gray’s most recent ACT Score. I have read articles on this site and the PP and cannot find the latest score. In fact, as of yesterday, Gray said he has no idea what he scored. He was notified by the NCAA Clearinghouse that he received a qualifying score, but he didn’t even know what it was.
http://blogs.twincities.com/gophers/2008/11/gray_expects_to_rejoin_the_gop.html
Bud,
Just to get YOUR facts straight.
9 out of the 16 years when Alveraz was coach the Badgers had 5 losses or more.
You and Wren making this year out to be a down for Wisconsin when in the past they’ve had many down years and we did not win.
IF Brewster doesn’t win in Wisconsin it’s something your idol Mase never did, even when the Badgers were down. If Brewster does not win this year, it’s not the end of the world. If you need me to help set anymore facts straight just let me know.
Bud says:
November 13th, 2008 at 8:55 am
Good point MBA99. I can not believe the Univ. would admit a student after that student was questioned for cheating. RS is different because he just had to keep taking the test like TC until he recieved a passing score. MG was flagged on a test that he supposedly took and ask to retake the test and recieved a score much lower than the contested ACT. The Univ. has lowered their standards just a little to much for my liking and I have to side with you on that one. The major problem with recruiting is these kids lose their right to privacy when it comes to grades. Once someone does not show up, everyone wants to know why and in most cases someone leaks their grades or test score. It is unfortunate but the cost of being recruited in todays society.
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It’s really sad even for a pathetic loser like Bud to lie about a good kid for his own personal jollies.
Concerned Gopher MBA99 says:
November 13th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Our football team is already at the bottom of the conference in GPA and graduation rate, yet brewster keeps giving away free rides like they are lollipops to kids who can’t walk and chew gum at the same time. If his intent is to turn MN football into the Florida State of the Big 10, I have no interest. I would rather we drop the sport and will voice this opinion to every member of the regents, AD and admissions department that I can. I am not anti-sports, just concerned that we are spending $100k per year on ’students’ who have little to 0 chance of graduating. There are more deserving HS students out there.
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Hmmm, I wonder who is posting under another name? In all my days reading Gopher forums only two posters have ever suggested dropping football. One is a racist, the other is his sidekick.
gold04 says:
November 13th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Bud,
Just to get YOUR facts straight.
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Good luck, Bud is either very ignorant or outright lies. Either way, I haven’t seen him have accurate information more than two times.
david_allen_coe says:
November 13th, 2008 at 10:32 am
“Once someone does not show up, everyone wants to know why and in most cases someone leaks their grades or test score.”
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Leak their test scores, Bud? Or do you mean plant lies that Gopher haters such as yourself, wrenbawlblabber, and loon can run with?
If you have proof Gray cheated on his test state it. Otherwise stuff it.
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CMON DAC, we both know he has no proof. And if anyone on this board believes for a second that someone so ignorant could function as a businessman in this country especially under the current financial mess, I have some swampland to sell you in Florida.
Bud says:
November 13th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Jimbo, are you the english teacher that wants to take more of my money in taxes so you can teach my children where to put a period or question mark. Math and science are the only subjects that should be taught in school today. With all the history and Lit. that has been twisted in our childrens books today we should push them towards math and science so they can get a good paying job when they graduate. When I speak I have know problem getting my point across and when I dictate someone else makes sure the letter is perfect.
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Do you honestly believe all the BS you type? Ignoring history due to your own twisted personal agenda? Why don’t keep the neocon crap off this board? Lets get back to EVERYONE mocking your ignorance related to football.
Cant wait for the first “Gray Out” at TCF Bank Stadium
Gold4 my reference was to two years Jim Wacker beat Wisc. when they were very good. You try to spin it into other years when Barry was bad. You were wrong on Whacker and his success against the Badger so atdmit it. All we really know for sure is Brewster is 0-1 against the Badgers and we will see on sat. what his record will be after year two. We already know he has done no better than anyone before him against Mich. and by the way Whacker beat Iowa in year two to knock them out of the RB.
I was wrong it was year one for Whacker.
Bud,
My point was not about Wacker but that the Badgers have beat the Gophers plenty of times in Madison even when they are not that good. I’m glad Wacker won once at Camp Randal, but that was not my point.
It doesn’t suprise that you are wrong because you, Loon, and Wren say things of the top of your head without thinking.
This gets very interesting because in fact Whacker won 5 Big Ten games in his first two season at MN. So the standard that Brewster should be held to is Whackers record after year two. God knows nobody inherited a worst Gopher team than Jim Whacker. 2-9(1-7) and the offense scored a grand total of 9 TD’s all season. We have been comparing Brewster to the wrong coach.
Bud—I am still waiting for you to reference the article in which Gray’s ACT scores were posted. I haven’t seen it yet.
Plus Wacker beat Wisconsin at home. We are talking at Camp Randal. Did Wacker beat Wisconsin at Camp Randal and what year was it?
Wacker won at Madison in 1994…17-13 I believe.
Bud,
My whole discussion about Camp Randal. Did Wacker or Mase ever win there?
Bud—why do we have to compare Brewster with any prior coach?? Either the program is going up, down, or stalled out. I happen to think, even with a 7-5 record this year, the trendline is going in a positive direction.
It’s pretty sad that you’ve all resorted to bashing eachother’s grammar/spelling and intelligence instead of talking football. It’s not like we’re playing a rival this weekend or anything…
One pat on the back for Texas Gopher for trying to keep this blog on topic.
Two pats to MarQuies for taking care of business, regardless the circumstances.
A hug for Decker in hopes that he’ll be healthy again for the IA game.
A standing ovation for the entire team while boarding the bus to Madison, since they’ll need every bit of support to win on Saturday!
Thanks for the info Studwell. We have not won at Camp Randal since 1994. It’s been almost 25 years and we have played bad Wisconsin teams there and have never won. If Brewster beats a Wisconsin team that has struggled it’s a big accomplishment. That’s the point I’m making. Not about Wacker!
I do agree with Bud we need to compare Wackers five years to Brewster’s 5 years. Wacker beat 3 teams that finished the year ranked and Mase never did that. Your right Bud, Mase was a loser compared to Wacker.
Now back to Football. It WILL be a miracle if we win Saturday. If it happens and I’d be glad to eat crow!
Wayne, I think it best if you go back on your meds. I would never want a father-in-law like you…not in a million years! We will have a toast at the Essen House tomorrow night in your honor Mr. Holier than thou. Drink on big boy!
I’ll make sure to bag a crow along with my buck tomorrow, gold04!
Bud says:
November 13th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
I was wrong it was year one for Whacker.
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I believe his name was Wacker. I’m quite sure he wasn’t into self-gratification.
Gold04, I would really hope you get to eat crow on Saturday evening. But I’m afraid you’re right. The Gophers will need a lot of breaks to win on Saturday.
By the way, the only degree that should be used on this board is “SOB.” Abd you all know who you are!
Who all is going to Madison this weekend? I am! See you there!
GO GOPHERS!!!
Dam ! who cares what happened 3-5-10 yrs. ago? We are here today and the team is here today and most have not played at Wisc. so they have no history. Let it go!!!!!!
I agree Dash!
You to TG.
kent we need a fresh comment section!
Bud says,
“DAC, the scores posted in the Star must have been correct or they would have been taken to court for the miss print. The scores listed where 13/15/22/16.”
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Taken to court by who, an 18-year-old? On his own? Get real.
There are two points you must understand, Bud:
1) Lack of court action in no way proves the numbers are correct.
2) If the numbers are correct they in no way prove he cheated on the test with the highest score.
Do not brand a young man dishonest or a cheater without proof. After all, Bud, many of your statements here about our recruits have been proved false.
“In all my days reading Gopher forums only two posters have ever suggested dropping football. One is a racist, the other is his sidekick.”
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And would that racist double as a mule? And would that sidekick double as a brewmaster?
“Good luck, Bud is either very ignorant or outright lies.”
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Hmmmmm …. I don’t think anybody ever went broke betting either way on that one.
“It WILL be a miracle if we win Saturday. If it happens and I’d be glad to eat crow!”
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Even if you don’t eat crow, gold, you have been remanded to Jumbo’s school for remedial math. 1994 to 2008 is not “almost 25 years”.
TX I do not have the time nor the energy to go back through fat Pats articles to find it for you. If you lived here in MN you would have heard it referenced several times on the talk radio shows. Sorry for the lack of effort on my part but as I have said it does not matter now. As far as DAC not being able to see the discrepancies in the scores and sticking his head in the sand so he can contend that there was no irregularities to the scores let him. He is free to his own opinion. And I am sure glad that some of you have agreed that talking about the past is use less.
Gold4 I pick the top 4 Big Ten teams before the Big Ten season started and I was dead on. You made light of MSU and they sit at 9-2. You said NW was overrated and the beat us and I said Iowa looked pretty good but you made fun of them. Your 10 wins in 2009 will be about 5 to many and I don’t even need to wait until next year.
Bud … Why do differing scores reflect “discrepancies”? What is your proof of a discrepancy? Something written by a moron like Reusse who is quite possibly even more stupid than Whynebawl?
Give me a break.
Let me get this straight - if a kid does not do well on his ACT, gets a tutor and then does do well, we should assume he cheated? And refuse entry to school? Nuts….
As someone who has tutured for ACT and GED, these tests do not test knowledge of facts. They test the ability to do math problems and reading and comprehension. Getting a tutor can vastly improve a score 2 ways:
1. teaching the student how to take a standardized test and giving him/her practice
2. refreshing their knowledge of high school math.
A big jump after working with a tutor is not common, but it is not extremely rare. However a second big jump is practically unheard of. 21 the second time would be perfectly respectable.
Any student athlete who gets in CAN graduate. Look at VandeSteeg who had trouble getting in and now will graduate with good grades. If a coach provides the incentive and the support and culture, his students will succeed. He has to look potential recuits in the eye and tell them what is expected - and then judge whether or not they will follow through on the commitment.
I believe Mason failed to judge his recruits, and I believe he failed to provide the necessary backing and push to get his students through. We’ll see whether Brew does better. I may be the optimist, but I think he will. He has already talked about his players’ academic situation (generally) more than Mase ever did.
Bud,
Obviously I didn’t say those things about Iowa, MSU, or North, but let me share with you why I want 2009 to be a big year.
It would be great to win the Big Ten title in 2009 so both Mase and Brewster could recieve credit. They both would have players on the team they recruited. I really believe Mase laid a foundation and Brewster is building the house. I hope someday Masonites and Brewsterites could eventually come together in a victorious season. The first year in the new stadium would be the perfect time.
It would be great someday instead of being Masonites or Brewsterites we all could be Gopher fans. A fantastic 2009 season would help mend those fences, and we all could celebrate how far this program has come. I still belive 2009 could be an icredible year.
Guys,
I’d gladly eat crow if we beat Wisconsin, but I just do not see that happening.
this brewster better win come saturday. It is the weakest bad ger team in years. There will be no excuse if this brewster does not bring home the axe. This year was set up for 9-10 wins. Big Ten wins are important.
this is enough Wayne, I told you last time we talked that being on the computer won’t help your marriage..So quit it!!! Oh, check your email I got you that interview to be the towel boy for Gordy Shaw’s team, he gave you glowing reviews.
ncduece says,
“As someone who has tutured for ACT and GED, these tests do not test knowledge of facts. They test the ability to do math problems and reading and comprehension.”
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Are you telling us the odious Whynedawl, the illiterate buffloonatic, and the deadspace Bud are all not only ignorant of facts but also incapable of understanding simple math or third grade reading?
Well, I cannot say I am surprised.
“It would be great someday instead of being Masonites or Brewsterites we all could be Gopher fans.”
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Gold … You need to buy a clue somewhere. Real Gopher fans are real Gopher fans. Nobody cares who the coach is or what his name is. We only care about the coach devoting his life to our team.
There are only a handful of morons and haters here who put their preference for who is coach ahead of the team. Just a small handful.
Do you think any player wearing our uniform gives a royal crap who recruited him today? They only care about being better and being a team.
Since you creeps from gopher hole have sunk to your usual LOW…LIFE…attacks I will never use the name wrenagain2. That name is forever agandoned and I have NOTHING to do with it. It is dead and anyone abusing it any further is a dead beat.
Crash and burn gopher hole tricksters…yes, you leeks, and any other sad, sick suckers that still seek to silence good, honest critiques of this brewster era. And, a pretty sad era it has been so far. 3 Big Ten wins, 11 Big Ten losses and two more games to play this season in Big Ten play.
No matter how low you people try to go…you can not run away from this brewsters throw away 2007 season and this collapse…or potential collaps of the 2nd half of the Big Ten schedule in 2008. You can’t attack my family. You can’t do a damn thing about these monting Big Ten losses that this brewster keeps crapping out.
birdy thats quite a new handle!!!! Do you really want to win Big Ten games???/
You people are the creation of this brewster. He appears to like to have dirty tricksters from gopher hole who attack the children of people who would write the pure, plain and simple story of this brewsters Big Ten wins vs. His Big Ten losses. As you people demonstrate, this brewster advocates going to extreme lows. Watch this brewster and watch him closely. As his followers behave, so this brewster behaves. Sociopathic behavior by his followers would be a good indication that sociopathic behavior may sometime surface in this brewster’s character and personality. And, all the while, as the 2008 Big Ten season winds down…this brewster keeps crapping out on Game Day Saturdays.
so thats why you had to use mine. Didyou use up your million?
Sometimes it’s good to do something just because it is there. Ditch this dunbar!
Note to self: disregard all wren AND ktbhcbtrenegade. For explanation, look up the ad nauseam in the dictionary.
I’m starting to have some doubts about Dunbar but right now I’m leaning toward giving him one more year.
Dunbar has coached impressive offenses before. Northwestern averaged 505 yards a game under his guidance, that’s second all time in the Big Ten. Some people argue we don’t have the atheletes to run his offense but Northwestern does not have the athletes also.
I’m still learning toward giving Dunbar one more year. With the success he’s had in the past, I would think things would eventually turn around.
You aren’t an objective person any way tex. You side with the low-rent gh posters who stoop to any and all lengths to turn this blog into a cesspool of their making. They are typical of this brewsters methods and this brewster’s techniques. He is their guru…they are his slaves.
This brewster isn’t winning enough Big Ten games tex. Doesn’t that bode ill for the future of this program? Losses NEVER help tex. Especially Big Ten losses.
Ditch this dunbar!
My prediction for the Wisconsin game is 31-14 Wisconsin. We have not won in Camp Randal in almost 25 years. They still have one of the Big Tens top running attacks and defense. The weather will be horrible and that will be perfect for Wisconsin football. I’m NOT bashing our team, I’m just telling the truth. I hope we win but I’m beggining to think it’s going to take a miracle.
For crying out loud you foolish typer of mis-information goldohfour: Wacker wine into the camp in madison and won in 1994, that was 14 years…or 7 trips ago. Tutu Atwell came up BIG that game as a freshman and caught a td pass in the last quarter to seal the deal.
Come on dude/dudette, which ever the case may be: get the facts straight. What kind of a fan are you if you don’t recall that game or even bother to find out before you make a totally misleading statement. Bad form goldohfour…Jim Wacker took it to alvarez right there in shoebox country.
badger defenses stink if you can run the ball on them. The Gophers put up over 30 on them last year. Look at the badgers Big Ten recrod. They have been a terrible team this year. 2 Big Ten wins and a boat load of Big Ten losses. They are NOT a good team. They are stinking badgers.
gold04 says:
November 14th, 2008 at 7:26 am
I’m starting to have some doubts about Dunbar but right now I’m leaning toward giving him one more year.
Dunbar has coached impressive offenses before. Northwestern averaged 505 yards a game under his guidance, that’s second all time in the Big Ten. Some people argue we don’t have the atheletes to run his offense but Northwestern does not have the athletes also.
I’m still learning toward giving Dunbar one more year. With the success he’s had in the past, I would think things would eventually turn around.
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Yes, he should at least be allowed to see next year’s National championship through! LMAOR!
Kent,
Whats up with all the Hawkeye coverage in the paper this AM? You have more in there on them and Gophers play WI tomorrow??
Gold–I agree with you on the unlikely possibility we can pull out a win. Here is what I would like to see:
1) a defensive all-out effort from bell to bell. Attacking. aggressive 100% effort. If they get burned or miss tackles, so be it.
2) one big special teams play. Have we had any points generated from a KO or punt return?? I don’t recall any.
3) Weber coming out in one piece.
4) offensive play-calling that takes chances. I have harped on this all season but so far we have given the opponent’s D no reason to stay honest. Throw that same old same old out the window for this game.
5) I believe there are times and places when “moral victories” mean something. This is one such game. We don’t need to win as much as we need to play a tough, hard-nosed ball-game.
Wayne, have you been tossing back grandma’s cough medicine again? I thought you learned your lesson the first time…er, I mean the second time. Btw, wrenagain2 posted on the article regarding beer at TCF at 6am this morning…you are one liar of a sick, sad sucker Wayne.
No tex: the mobbers and bashers killed the concept of “moral” victories. They do NOT exist. You either win…or…you are a total loser. Is that my concept? No, not at all. But, that is what the mobbers and bashers (now known as the gopher nation) always said in the past. They won…so…there can be NO moral victory in defeat. Believe me, this brewster needs to win…no moral victory allowed…you wouldn’t want it to be said that this brewster is a “morally” bankrupt, brewster would you? :0) Since we are where we are today, there are NO moral wins. Only wins can help. Losses of any kind hurt. That is the sad truth tex.
Hey there gopher hole…leeks or studwell or which ever creep you may be. We have certainly seen so MANY cases where the wrenagain2 moniker has been hijacked by some of you bashers and mobbers and low-life creeps who say rotten things about family members.
Screw you people. I have NO control over who hijacks any moniker on this board. Crash and burn leeks…
If it makes you feel better, I have the Iowa game in the “really need to win” category.
Not need tex, MUST! This brewster is throwing away another season. We need Big Ten wins now!!! If you are not part of the solution tex then you are THE problem.
Lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of Big 10 wins…….anti-psychotic meds too!
Wayne, does hard at work wifey know you are fiddling around here again before you have your dusting, dishes, vacuuming and toilets done?
recruiting, you have NO idea how hard it is to take care of the kids and attend to the needs of my wife. All you bitchers and bashers, pimpers and pumpers, drinkers and drunkards can all crash and burn! You dirty trickster dude/dudettes from gh/gi think you are real cute. I will always contrast this brewster and this prexy b and this lil ranger…bet on it!! If you don’t leave my family out of this I will hire as many lawyers as possible and slap a dafamation suit on all you dirty trickster gh/gi dude/dudettes.
Talk is cheap, actions are dear! Jerk
Way to go, MarQueis!! Shows that hard work pays off!! Keep up the good work!!
Good to see 3 members of last year’s recruiting class keep the hard work up and now it pays off, that all will play next year!! GO GOPHERS!!!
Wren,
I think Wacker defeated 4 teams that finished the year ranked (Wisconsin twice, iowa, Syracuse). Mase never beat a team that finished the year ranked. It’s only fair to compare Wackers record with Brewster’s.
We might as well throw away tomorrow’s game because we have NO chance. Wren is right Brewster needs to win lots and lots of Big Ten games like Mase did his first two years.
Wren, I’ll always be here to CONTRAST your negativity!
I see the odious moron Whyne Wrenbawl Blatherer has finally succeeded in totally ruining another board. Idiot.
I want the Gophers to win here or some reason why it’s not going to happen!
1. Wisconsin has one of Big Ten’s best running attacks.
2. Wisconsin has one of the Big Ten’s best defense’s
3. Playing in Camp Randal where we have not won for almost 15 years!
4. Decker is out!
5. Eskridge is our healthy only running back. I’m glad we have him but as a true freshmen he’s not quite ready to be a main back in the Big Ten. Even with Mason’s system we’d have a tough time running the ball today.
6. We are playing 3 true freshmen recievers.
7. Mase never won in Wisconsin why would Brewster.
8. Bad Weather - this will favor Wiscon consdierably. They have a top rushing attack and yes our line has struggled but we also don’t have the quality or quanity of backs we need. Next year will be different.
Bad Weather will also make it tough for us to pass the ball.
We simply will not win. Considering the bad weather and no Decker, we’ll have a tougher time trying to win in Wisconsin then trying to win at OSU.
Man I hope I’m wrong but that rarely happens.
31-14 Wisconsin
What’s happened to Kent?
The Fat Man really hit rock bottom with his column this morning. What drivel!
I constantly am amazed that they actually pay him to write crap like that.
Great article, Patrick, don’t listen to the brewasskissers like dacwad:
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