Carter picks West Virginia; McNeal to Clemson
Posted on January 3rd, 2009 – 1:55 PMBy Kent Youngblood
You might have seen it, but highly-recruited defensive back Michael Carter, from Florida, announced during NBC’s airing of the U.S. Army All-American Bowl that he has chosen West Virginia over the Gophers.
Many thought he would wind up with the Gophers, at least in part because his cousin, Tyrone Carter, was a star for the Gophers.
Later in the game Bryce McNeal, the local standout wide receiver, chose Clemson over Minnesota and Oregon, citing the coaching staff and the fact that there would be family close by in Atlanta.
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Crap, that’s too bad, he could really help the U D backs alot. Why WV? It’s in the middle of nowhere and their best player (Pat White) is graduating, they won’t be as good next year as they were this year without White. The Gophers are on the rise and WV is on the decline. And Michigan just got the big DT from Cass HS in Detroit, so that helps them.
What are the chances of getting a surprise selection today or McNeal picking the Gophs?
EVER WONDER WHY COACH WONDFERFUL WOULD EXPECT A HIGH PROFILE DEFENSIVE PLAYER TO COME HERE AND PLAY FOR HIM WHEN HIS OWN SON WHO WAS A HIGH PROFILE DEFENSIVE PLAYER WOULD NOT COME HERE AND PLAY FOR HIM?
I don’t have a good feeling about McNeal.
Matty, You mean that he’s coming here or not coming here?
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Game is less then 6 minutes and McNeal still hasn’t announced yet. How much better is McNeal then the WR’s the Gophers have commits from already? Is he way better then the other we have so far? Is he the kind of gamebreaker that can make the Gophers alot better?
I have a feeling that he’s going to Oregon, but I hope I’m wrong. Maybe he’s still thinking about it.
ESPN says Clemson. But I hope they’re wrong too. How much better is McNeal then the WR’s we have commits from already?
here we go
Clemson crap
But I’m happy that the coaching staff has Christian values too. So that’s good. Bummer for the Gophers.
Brewster must be a Pagan. . .
It’s official - Brewster is as big a loser as his five predecessors. Minnesota football maintains its decades of irrelevancy.
D2 football is the answer. The new stadium certainly isn’t D1 size. Perhaps we could schedule NDSU and upset them.
I just read an interview with McNeal and he didn’t wantto stay at home either, so he’s going to a school close to relatives (in Atlanta) and former WR coach is now the head coach, so that makes a difference too. But that’s the way it goes. Life goes on.
Watch the Under Armour game tomarrow will make us alot happier seeing Hageman and Alipate picking the Gophers. They already have, so we know they’ll be in Maroon and Gold next year. Go Gophers.
What happened to this great recruiter we were promised? “We are going to close the borders and keep our kids home!” Why do the Gophers have one recruit in the Rivals top 250 signed? ONE!!! Looks like more of the same for Minnesota football. Mediocrity at best…
Maturi’s wonderful choice of Brewster is sure paying dividends. He hasn’t sealed the borders. He isn’t an improvement over Mason or the sad long list of previous coaches. Funny, the guy at Utah didn’t recruit against the big schools. Coaching might have something to do with it. Too bad Maturi didn’t hire Kiffin and get his dad as a bonus. Mediocrity is the lot for the Golden Gophers.
If they give him an extension at this point, I’ll be disappointed. They’ve shown no real ability to recruit (where were all those great freshmen this year), and they certainly don’t look like they can coach. Give him 1 more year to see if they can coach or not before extending him. Seriously.
MIKE AND ALL YOU DUMMIES!!!! Most freshman do not play the 1st yr. get that thru your thick skulls!!!
I think that Carter is a much bigger loss than McNeal. We have a pretty good stable of young, big and fast receivers. McNeal must question his playing time with these kids already here. Now we just need the QB to throw it to someone other than Decker.
Watching Mason’s teams stumble around, running into each other, are now looking like the “good old days.” This program CANNOT compete at this level. Four decades of mediocrity has proven it. We have a D2-sized stadium now, why not move down to D2.
Next year will be the defining point of Brewster’s legacy. There should be no reason why we can’t compete with anyone in the Big Ten next year. We will be very good offensively and defensively in 2009.
Even with the BRUTAL schedule next year, Brewster should at least win 8 games next year. I hope and think we can win more, but next year will determine what kind of coach Brewster really is! I said before the 07 season it won’t be until 09 when we should have a team that can compete with anyone in the Big Ten. I’m going not going to draw my conclusions about how good or bad a coach Brewster is until after the 2009 season. We should be able to contend for the Big Ten title next year, but it will be up to the coaches on how this team performs in 09.
Minnesota’s team got it done, Babe!!
http://blogs.startribune.com/vikingsblog/?p=2382
Tune-in and watch some real football tomorrow instead of this brewball slapstick BS!!!
This story cannot possibly be accurate. After all, Brewster is a genius who is a much better recruiter than Mason and is getting the good players to commit to Minnesota, which is why we put up with his inept coaching and the pathetic performances that his team has been giving.
Gold I agree that there can’t be excuses next year. Injuries are the only thing that may justify an excuse, but that is it.
Next year should be the measure of whether Brewster has this team going in the right direction.
Josh- Brewster has 6 or the 8 MN kids with committments coming to MN next year. The two not coming are Dehm and McNeal. Dehm is the lowest rated MN lineman on the list and McNeal would have been great, but we got four 4* WR/Ath. committments in the last two years and I’m sure that affected his choice.
BigGuy: the excuses around here are eyeball high and really stink. However, even you people are running out of excuses.
The fact that some ego-driven 3, 4 and supposedly 5 star recruits are actually shown on some tv program called the army all star game and strut their supposed stuff in front of cameras when they have never even played one down of practice on a college team…and you people eat it up and even watch it s the stuff that totally is wrecking college football. High School fantasy recruiting ranking stuff really is beyond any form of good taste and is so pathetic. So what if some pampered high school kids played their little head games and stiffed this brewster on some meaningless, classless, foolish football made for tv joke. The Army should hang it’s head in shame for sponsoring such trash. This brewster should hang his head in shame for being one of the real fools who went after recruits that do that stuff.
Believe me, The team will be no worse off for the choices those pampered, spoiled kids made rather than to accept a scholarship from the U.
Fantasy high school football recruiting extravaganzas and hype shows such as this type really are a sign of bad things for college football. VERY bad things…
This brewster needs to ditch this dunbar. I’ve been trying to tell him that for months now. It will be the end of this brewster at Minnesota eventually if he doesn’t ditch this dunbar spread…
By the way…those punk high school kids played this brewster like a drum… ; 0)
BigGuy I agree with you about McNeal. He might not get the playing time he thinks he deserves being an ESPN150 player. Losing Carter is more damaging to the Gophers than McNeal. We need DBs more than WRs since our QB has trouble finding anyone except Decker. Granted, Decker is a great athlete but the QB must spread the wealth around. One final thought, I am sure all the in-state atheletes read this blog. With all the nasty comments about the Gopher football program and its coach being spewed daily, why would any good MN athlete commit to the program. You want in-state players to stay in state than talk positive about the program. Think about this: Be positive, itwill change your outlook on life; If you dwell on failures and bad things, things will not get better; Some people make a living pointing out why or how you can’t accomplish something, I rather admire someone who says lets do it; and finally, If you have nothing constructive to say, do not say anything. GO GOPHERS!!!!
TCF Stadium - Future home of the D2 dynasty that will be the Minnesota Golden Gophers!
Thanks to Coach Mason for getting the legislature to approve the erector set stadium.
Changing the subject, What’s going to happen coach Frentz (spelling)?? at Iowa, and why do they keep getting such talented players???
Anyone know?
Reality= Pantherhawk..I recognize that erector set language anywhere….
hey “Reality”….Boston college, Oregon, Louisville, Oregon State, Fresno State, Bosie State, Georgia Tech, Kansas State, Maryland, Texas Tech ETC Have either similar or less stadium capacity to TCF Bank Stadium….once again, your college football insight is evident.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_football_stadiums_by_capacity
Kent, I would like to know how many tickets the Gopher Ticket Office sold to the Insight Bowl this season. I would also like to know how many were sold two years ago.
It seems that would be a fair test of the popularity of Brewster with the fans. At least it would be a set of facts as opposed to opinions.
Thank you.
Jeez, most of you guys are incredible. Yes we didn’t land McNeal or Carter, we can’t win all the recruiting battles, nor does FL or OSU, or LSU win them all they lose some too. Brewster recruited more talent in the past 2 years than we had in the past 45 years. Just imagine if Mason would have recruited the type of talent Brewster would have recruited, but he didn’t and that is why we stayed in mediocracy. Also, signing day is still a month away, so we still have chances to get some great recruits to replace at least Carter (which I agree we needed him), as for McNeal we already have a strong, young WR core and recruits so it is not a big loss.
This maturi let Mason’s contract run down for three years. Then the incredibly dense maturi signed Mason to a five year extension.
You brewster apologists claim that he needs his contract extended so that he always has four or five years remaining on his contract or he will not be able to recruit. Here is the deal brewster apologists, this maturi let Mason’s contract run down to four…three…two…one…zero time left. This maturi now HAS to do the same thing to this brewster. Let the clock tick away on this brewster, because this brewster obviously can not coach on Game Day Saturdays. This maturi needs to let this brewster’s contract run down to three years, and if he hasn’t been forced to buy him out then, he needs to let this brewster’s contract run down to two years. Even a two year contract buy out will be much cheaper than a four year contract buy out was. This maturi has done such an incredibly poor job in messing up the past, present and future of this football program. It is obvious that someone will have to buy out this brewster’s contract within the next 12 to 24 months. The guy just does NOT know how to put his players in a position to win a heck of a lot of Big Ten Football Games.
Obviously, this maturi’s contract will need to be bought out within the next 12 to 24 months, because he can NOT hire this brewster’s replacement.
Prexy B probably needs to retire since he is so long of tooth and has made the mistake of extending this maturi’s contract. As a result, the buy out of maturi’s contract is going to cost the University of Minnesota a few more million dollars. This prexy b is fiscally lacking in responsibility. The legislature needs to cut him off the next time he comes begging for MORE state money. He doesn’t manage money very well at all. Any prexy who doesn’t manage money well and responsibly needs to go. Needless contract extensions provide grounds for long of tooth prexy’s to be relieved of their duties and positions.
Ditch this dunbar NOW!
mn_cagev: this brewster hasn’t even gotten us to any degree of respectability. Stinking iowa did this brewster 55-0 in this brewster’s 2nd season last half of the Big Ten Schedule throw away. this brewster got his brains beaten in the final five games of this season against NU, Michigan, wisky, iowa and Kansas. I saw NOTHiNG good about any of those five games from a coaching perspective. Where was this brewster’s leadership ability in rallying his STAFF????? His players?????
2009 could potentially be a tough season. This brewster needs to start putting his players in a position to start winning a LOT of Big Ten football games. It is up to him. I don’t think he is up to the challenge based upon what I have seen after watching him coach 25 games. This is going to be messy and this brewster needs to imrove big time right now. He needs to be a coach. He needs to take charge and ditch this dunbar and ths dunbar spread thing.
I really don’t know how good this brewster’s recruiting has been. My barometer is Big Ten wins. I don’t see very many Big Ten wins at all. 2009 will tell us what remains left to be seen. The clock will have ticked away one more year of his contract. The fans will grow restless unless there are a LOT of Big Ten wins in 2009…very restless, angry and calling for action. That will be the mood of the people after the 2009 season has been completed unless SIGNIFICANT numbers of Big Ten wins are achieved by this bruewster. How many Big Ten wins????? A LOT!
Dump dunbar!
Jottings
Memo to Bayfield Buffoon: Can you believe the Vikings had 20,000 tickets to today’s game on Monday and found a way to sell them so it could be televised?
The rest of you Vikings haters can smoke it too!!!
Who cares?
Never would have happened if the NFL didn’t give them a 24 hour reprieve. Ziggy probably bought the last 5000 or so just to save face.
Now, go crawl back under your rock with your black & white TV and Miller Light.
Gophs got a commit from a four-star (Rivals) JUCO DB yesterday (Taikwon Paige). We moved up to 28 on Rivals team recruiting rankings.
pokeintheeye says:
January 4th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Gophs got a commit from a four-star (Rivals) JUCO DB yesterday (Taikwon Paige). We moved up to 28 on Rivals team recruiting rankings.
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Oh goodie, another JUCO dope we can nic-name gasoline in the secondary!!!
Loon, despite being in a recession this year the Gophers sold more tickets this year than they did in 2006. The Insight Bowl set a record for attendance this year.
You care, Bayfield, you said id wouldn’t happen. Like your Loserphers could sell 20k tickets in 5 days to save their ass!
Wrong Hawks. Either way, I get to watch the game up here. So I really don’t care.
Gunk, as one could clearly see, the place was half empty. The Gopher section seemed smaller.
Kent, the question still stands.
Loon, were you at the game????
I was there to support the team and program. I saw the many gopher fans there to watch the game and support the team, our side was packed in the lower level while on the KU side there were many empty seats in the lower level, and official attendance was 49,100+
I think that Brew was right when he said that Kansas was just better, Reesing is going to be a heckof a QB in the NFL, who cares if he isn’t very tall and scouts don’t say that he will be very good in the NFL, their love affair with size/speed is stupid, there are alot of players in the NFL who scouts downgraded before the draft. And the Vikes should draft the WR too who had over 200 yards against the Gophers, he’s big and will be a tough to stop. Getting Paige helps, they still might be able to get a few more really good players to change their minds too.
Go Gophers.
mn cagv, as you will learn as you go to more bowl games, the attendance is the number of tickets sold or given away. As things are run by the local chamber of commerce, they put the arm on local companies to buy tickets. Many of those tickets go unused. As you know perfectly well, there were nowhere near 49,100 people at the game.
This is not a big deal, it is a question that Kent can easily get the answer to. I thought the Gopher crowd two years ago was the largest I had seen at the many bowl games I attended. I did not think this crowd was close to that standard. Nonetheless, we need not debate the issue at all as the official numbers are available to Kent.
Excuses, Excuses, Excuses. Next year there cannot be any. Excuses have always worked well for Gopher fans. Our motto always seems to be: WE CAN’T. The Masonites were good at blanketing Mase with excuses. Lately I can see the Brewsterites are picking up on the gift of deflection. That gift is being able to say why your favorite coach cannot be held responsible for not having the team rise above mediocre status.
I’m already beggining to read reports why we can’t be good next year and I’m afraid it could be until Brewster’s six season before some fans believe you need to start holding Brewster acountable.
Next year this team should be very good. In fact there is a good chance we could be better in 2009 then 2010. After the 2009 season we lose a lot of defensive players.
Next year Brewster has everything a coach could want.
1. New Stadium
2. Coaches - Maturi has given Brewster any assistant coach he wants.
3. Good players - Next years team for a Gopher team will be talented, deep, and experienced. 50 upperclassmen is a big number in 2009.
4. Sympathetic fans base - Mase for a decade had this and Brewster so far is reaping those benefits also.
I still hope Brewster does well but it’s time we start expecting more. Next year we should be able to get at least 8 wins and that’s including the bowl game. In fact we should be able to contend for a Big Ten title next year.
We can’t be afraid to start expecting great things from our team starting in 2009. This years seniors have mentioned how in the 2009 season we should be very, very good. Shouldn’t we expect the same?
I like coach Brewster and hope he does well, but we can’t be AFRAID to place greater expectations on our coach for next year. I know Brewster has great expectations for next year and so should we.
Alas, I must leave Tempe this am.
Thanks Kent for the columns all year.
Gold, I like your attitude and last thoughts on this, but the schedule is the big worry for next year. We could be much better, and still be 6-6.
At this moment, however, the Big Ten stinks in general. 1-5 and tonite looks dismal, too, for OSU. TV has been (rightly) raking the Big Ten performance.
All the fan bases (except that steamroller Iowa) must be pretty down now.
I still like the Brewster pick, and we need two more years to see if he can get us to 10 wins and prominence that lasts.
The bottom line is all AD’s in this weak conference need to get guys in who can RECRUIT talent. We shall learn quickly if Brew is the guy, but two years are needed to know for sure.
Our football misery in the Big Ten is not alone for now, that is for sure!
andover joe,
I agree that we need someone who can recruit to succeed. So far, I like what I have seen from Coach Brewster. The Gophers should be able to continue to show improvement on the field with the commits he is getting. I also like the fact that he is recognizing his team’s weaknesses and is addressing those issues. The schedule will definitely be tougher next year but that is also how teams improve by playing better competition.
I look forward to seeing where this team can go next year.
Thanks again Kent for your insights on the team this last year.
Yes, you guys will really lay down the law for next season or the next season after that. Go girls!!
Making a mess is easy. We do that well.
Then, you say, we will “fire” the guy who is running the mess. The next guy will be the answer. New systems, new coaches, new hype, etc.
Go girls!!!
“We need a guy who can recruit!!”
“Hi Bill, this is Coach Chjack at the U and I REALLY want you to come to the U to play football.”
Piece of cake.
Girls, maybe what we really need is the best coach we can get and let that man build the program up over many years, on many levels, in many ways?
Your threats to hold any particular coach ‘accountable’ has been tried to death here for more than sixty years now. You can buy out all the coaches you want and talk the big talk you want until the end of time.
We are not going to hype this program to the top of the BCS. The building of TCF was the first real thing we have done for this program in decades. Perhaps the next step would be to get 10,000 fans to cheer the team off the field every game. But, what I do know, is that we need to win more games and changing coaches every few years is not going to get that done.
Been there, done that, did not work.
Get an AD. Get a real coach. Let the good man work at the many problems we have for many years.
Hiring a new guy who will “somehow” work “miracles” is a time proven approach that does not work here.
Gold … Your expectations for next year are generally on track. However, you seem to forget that the offense presently has a lid on improvement and that is the play of the quarterback.
Either this one must get a lot better between now and September or one of several alternatives must rise to the challenge. We can’t be an eight or nine win team with an offense limited by the quarterback play.
True, the offensive line should be hugely improved, the receiver corps will be deep and balanced, and the running back situation should be much better than this year. Quarterback is the limiting factor right now.
Gold says,
“I like coach Brewster and hope he does well, but we can’t be AFRAID to place greater expectations on our coach for next year. I know Brewster has great expectations for next year and so should we.”
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I couldn’t agree more, Gold, but my first expectation of Brewster is that he will have a second top 25 recruiting class. The only way this team will get into the upper echelon of the Big Ten is by upgrading the talent base and depth. We started that this year but we need much more.
The Paige commitment moved us from No. 31 to No. 28 on the Rivals list. That is still not good enough. He needs another couple of good players to move up several more notches.
There are lots of coaches around who can preside over the functioning of a football team. There are very few who can change the culture of a bad program to a good program with a big infusion of talent. If Brewster can’t consistently recruit top 25 classes, we need to find someone who can.
Loon says,
“Girls, maybe what we really need is the best coach we can get and let that man build the program up over many years, on many levels, in many ways?”
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Brilliant, buffloonatic, just brilliant. Who the hell is the “best coach we can get”? Nick Saban? Urban Meyers? Bobby Stoops? Name any great and proven coach who is demanding to be hired by Minnesota?
And tell me, Loonybin, do elite athletes line up to play for Oklahoma because Stoops is a great coach or because of the winning tradition and the name “Oklahoma Sooners” on their jersies?
Your childish naivete is priceless.
dac
I watched a bit of the UA All Star game last evening. It was obvious that the top schools get the top players. Everyone once in awhile the announcers said that this kid is going to a Iowa, Minnesota, Mississippi, etc but the vast majority of them are locked into the Florida schools, USC, Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas, OSU, etc.
IMO, Brewster needs to bring in four top 25 classes to get the talent level where we can be competitive. And a couple of JUCO’s each year that will fill weak areas.
IMO, Weber is not the root problem with the offense. Its the OL and Dunbars Suzy Spread approach. We do not have the talent to run the spread effectively. We should do better in 09 with a varied approach to the O.
Can Weber do a better job? Of course. And will if everyone incrementely improves and the new OL coach proves to be worthy.
I think 8+ wins will be a tough gig. I will hold off on my picks until we learn more this Spring and prior to opening KO at TCF. But I do expect a more competitive team in 09 going into year three with Brewster.
In the meantime, I hope Maturi holds off on a lengthy extension until after the 09 season.
LMAOR at the Pigeon fans especially PH. Atleast the Gophers at getting their hat on the table. I didn’t see a Becky or Pigeon hat once during the Army game.
I wish our team had more arrests than anyone else, Pigeon fans must be so proud.
Bayfield … That is my point … the elite talent migrates to the elite programs every year. Nobody here knows if Jim Tressel is a great coach, a mediocre coach, or a poor coach. It doesn’t matter much. Ohio State is Ohio State.
A lot of guys could sit in a GM dealership in the old days and sell GM cars. Very few are good enough salesmen to do that today.
That is similar to recruiting top talent to a down program like Minnesota. Very, very few people can recruit to Minnesota. If Brewster can’t, look for someone else.
I have not said Weber is the root problem of the offense. The real root problem for the offense this year was the line, not Weber.
But my point is, the line has a very high upside that it could reach next year while Weber does not appear to have much upside. After playing 25 full games he is not fundamentally good in that he can look off D backs, survey the whole field, and not throw into a crowd trying to get the ball to one guy every time. He also is not quick enough to be a true dual threat quarterback.
Where were all these people (or are they alias of PH?) when we got Lipscomb or Hayo? Funny how all these so called Gopher fans show up solely when we lose two recruits. Especially two recruits anyone near the program knew we wouldn’t get weeks ago. Where was the uproar when Bryce origionally verballed to Michigan? Or was that because Iowa wasn’t doing so hot so the pigs kept their mouths shut? There’s definitely a funny little trend around here, the better the pigones are doing, the more trash on here about the Gophers and Brewster. Well it is the 5th so I guess the pigeon faithful are bored and have spent their unemployment handouts.
Bayfield Gopher,
The O-line did struggle this year due to inexperience and injuries. I agree, they need to greatly improve this area next season. I liked what I saw from Davis in what little time he had to work with the group. I think with the addition of Carufel, Wills, and a strong commitment to off-season workouts, that the O-line should be remakably better.
We should also have a better stable of RB’s with Bennet & Whaley coming back from injuries and Lipscomb coming in. The freshman did what they could with the line they had but the running game should also be remarkably better.
I look forward to the tougher schedule. Teams learn to play at a higher level by facing stronger competition.
andover joe says:
January 5th, 2009 at 7:26 am
Alas, I must leave Tempe this am.
Thanks Kent for the columns all year.
Gold, I like your attitude and last thoughts on this, but the schedule is the big worry for next year. We could be much better, and still be 6-6.
At this moment, however, the Big Ten stinks in general. 1-5 and tonite looks dismal, too, for OSU. TV has been (rightly) raking the Big Ten performance.
All the fan bases (except that steamroller Iowa) must be pretty down now.
I still like the Brewster pick, and we need two more years to see if he can get us to 10 wins and prominence that lasts.
The bottom line is all AD’s in this weak conference need to get guys in who can RECRUIT talent. We shall learn quickly if Brew is the guy, but two years are needed to know for sure.
Our football misery in the Big Ten is not alone for now, that is for sure!
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The Big Ten is always screwed come bowl time.
1. We’re always playing someone in their backyard. Example: PSU vs USC
2. How many Big Ten teams partially are built for weather reasons? I’d love to see USC, FSU, or some other teams have to pay a bowl game in the midwest in December or January. I know it won’t happen, but I believe the Big Ten would fair much better.
Quarterback is the limiting factor right now.
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I know you are staying with your theme, but did you watch a running game have 38 carries for 80 yards???
david_allen_coe says:
January 5th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Loon says,
“Girls, maybe what we really need is the best coach we can get and let that man build the program up over many years, on many levels, in many ways?”
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Brilliant, buffloonatic, just brilliant. Who the hell is the “best coach we can get”? Nick Saban? Urban Meyers? Bobby Stoops? Name any great and proven coach who is demanding to be hired by Minnesota?
And tell me, Loonybin, do elite athletes line up to play for Oklahoma because Stoops is a great coach or because of the winning tradition and the name “Oklahoma Sooners” on their jersies?
Your childish naivete is priceless.
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I think calling Loon childish is actually a compliment.
I think the main reason that kids choose Oklahoma is $$$$$.
gold04 says:
January 5th, 2009 at 2:55 am
Excuses, Excuses, Excuses. Next year there cannot be any. Excuses have always worked well for Gopher fans. Our motto always seems to be: WE CAN’T. The Masonites were good at blanketing Mase with excuses. Lately I can see the Brewsterites are picking up on the gift of deflection. That gift is being able to say why your favorite coach cannot be held responsible for not having the team rise above mediocre status.
I’m already beggining to read reports why we can’t be good next year and I’m afraid it could be until Brewster’s six season before some fans believe you need to start holding Brewster acountable.
Next year this team should be very good. In fact there is a good chance we could be better in 2009 then 2010. After the 2009 season we lose a lot of defensive players.
Next year Brewster has everything a coach could want.
1. New Stadium
2. Coaches - Maturi has given Brewster any assistant coach he wants.
3. Good players - Next years team for a Gopher team will be talented, deep, and experienced. 50 upperclassmen is a big number in 2009.
4. Sympathetic fans base - Mase for a decade had this and Brewster so far is reaping those benefits also.
I still hope Brewster does well but it’s time we start expecting more. Next year we should be able to get at least 8 wins and that’s including the bowl game. In fact we should be able to contend for a Big Ten title next year.
We can’t be afraid to start expecting great things from our team starting in 2009. This years seniors have mentioned how in the 2009 season we should be very, very good. Shouldn’t we expect the same?
I like coach Brewster and hope he does well, but we can’t be AFRAID to place greater expectations on our coach for next year. I know Brewster has great expectations for next year and so should we.
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1. We need to find someone to replace WVS. Until we do that, we will not have a pass rush and we will be picked apart Kansas style.
2. We need someone to step up and replace Theret who is not good enough to be on the field for an average Big Ten defense.
3. Alot of that depth is upperclassmen who are not playing right now.
4. A new kicker and new punter usually means we lose atleast 1-2 games due to the kicking game.
5. The weak point (Oline) needs to make huge strides just to be average.
All of that added up to me means we’ll be in most of the games but will need another year to really jump on the scene.
the Loon says:
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Kent, I would like to know how many tickets the Gopher Ticket Office sold to the Insight Bowl this season. I would also like to know how many were sold two years ago.
It seems that would be a fair test of the popularity of Brewster with the fans. At least it would be a set of facts as opposed to opinions.
Thank you.
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LMAOR. Only an idiot buys through the school. Go to the bowl direct to save lots of cash. Our group has never tickets through the school for bowl games. I suppose you know this though and are trying to sway numbers Bud style. Nice try twit.
Derek … Yes, I saw the running game fail miserably. However, we have ten returning offensive linemen plus Carufel and Wills ready to play next year, all bigger, stronger, and more mature.
We have Eskridge and Shady coming back a year older and stronger. We have Bennett, Whaley, and Thomas possibly 100% next year. And we have Lipscomb coming in. Our running game will absolutely be much, much better in 2009.
But if our quarterback play is not greatly improved, that greatly limits the offense unless you intend to run the ball every play.
WAGopher says: says:
January 3rd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
BigGuy I agree with you about McNeal. He might not get the playing time he thinks he deserves being an ESPN150 player. Losing Carter is more damaging to the Gophers than McNeal. We need DBs more than WRs since our QB has trouble finding anyone except Decker. Granted, Decker is a great athlete but the QB must spread the wealth around. One final thought, I am sure all the in-state atheletes read this blog. With all the nasty comments about the Gopher football program and its coach being spewed daily, why would any good MN athlete commit to the program. You want in-state players to stay in state than talk positive about the program. Think about this: Be positive, itwill change your outlook on life; If you dwell on failures and bad things, things will not get better; Some people make a living pointing out why or how you can’t accomplish something, I rather admire someone who says lets do it; and finally, If you have nothing constructive to say, do not say anything. GO GOPHERS!!!!
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I tend to agree that losing Carter was more costly. Although you cannot count out the recruiting angle. Also, it seems we are in on more solid DB prospects at this time. But like I said, I tend to agree.
Derek … Theret has actually been a life-saver stepping in at safety and having to compete over his head. We just didn’t have anybody better. Let’s give him credit for his effort.
However, in 2009 Theret goes the path of Collado and plays as a backup. If Brewster does not have a faster, more athletic safety to put on the field we are in big trouble.
Carter is a bigger loss than McNeal. Between McNeal and Hageman, we landed the guy we really needed. We are deep at wide receiver but not tight end.
But we have picked up some D backs in this new class, including Paige who is a 4-star and should be ready to play. Remember too that Cooper is a 4-star who redshirted and Dandridge and Stoudemire are guys with speed who could get a look in the secondary.
The Big Ten is always screwed come bowl time.
1. We’re always playing someone in their backyard. Example: PSU vs USC
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And that is bad? You got to play Iowa in “your backyard?” Example: 55-0
Derek says,
“I think the main reason that kids choose Oklahoma is $$$$$.”
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Whether you were serious or not, you are exactly right. Every kid who signs with Oklahoma believes he is good enough to get to the NFL.
At the end of the day some are and some are not but they all see the path to a pro career as going through a high profile program, being on national TV, and competing for championships. In that sense, it’s about money.
Hawks … Congratulations on turning the season around. Your defeat of Penn State and the Bowl win, coupled with your heroic wins again the Maine Black Bears and Florida International, have made the world forget that 48 of your players were arrested on felony charges.
DAC–I understand your QB point and agree 100%. We are not slamming Weber. I like the guy and he has some tremendous football traits. Granted, he was not recruited as a spread QB and is playing out of position. However, I do agree that he is the limiting factor in terms of offensive growth and development next year.
No problem Derek. You did not count two years ago and you won’t count this year either.
Kent, I still want to know how many tickets were sold to the Insight Bowl through the Gopher ticket office both this year and two years ago. Having something real to talk about would be interesting for a change. Some nice, hard numbers.
So derek, you cheap sons of cheap sons of women who were also cheap skates will keep the University of Minnesota looking bad to bowl committees just so you can save a few bucks so you can drink your cheap rot-gut cheap stuff. You cheap sons of cheap sons are all alike…
maturi and prexy b…look at the cheap sons of cheap sons who make you look so foolish to the bowl committees. They have names like “derek….”
The dereks of the world will probably raise more cheap sons of cheap sons and the trend will continue.
Of course, with this brewster still harboring this dunbar, the 2009 season is pretty much going to be a disaster, except for the new stadium.
There is nothing cheaper than a cheap son of a cheap son aka this derek and his rot-gut drinking clan.
Tex … Although Loon and Wren have tried to portray me as dissing Weber, I am not. We are lucky we had him the past two years. His toughness and competitiveness cannot be questioned.
He was not recruited for the spread nor can he adapt well to it because of lack of footspeed. Whether he can be coached to look off defenders and see the whole field remains to be seen. That should have happened by now.
If Weber grows in those fundamental QB
skills, great. He still won’t have the speed of a true dual threat but he can be a better passer.
My point continues to be that if we want a championship level team we had better hope like heck there is another QB coming along with those true championship spread offense skills.
Note to wrenbawlblathers … Here’s a clue … the people who run the Insight bowl actually realize a lot of Minnesotans have retired to Arizona and a lot more travel there in the winter for vacation.
Bowl officials are, believe it or not, smart enough to have a pretty good idea of how many Minnesota fans attended the game even if you are not.
david_allen_coe says:
January 5th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Hawks … Congratulations on turning the season around. Your defeat of Penn State and the Bowl win, coupled with your heroic wins again the Maine Black Bears and Florida International, have made the world forget that 48 of your players were arrested on felony charges.
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Please attempt to confine yourself to facts, David. I do understand being a goofer fan, that feat may be genetically impossible. Go Montana State….RAH!
Hawks … Hey, I am being complimentary. No one in the Big Ten has ever beaten the Maine Black Bears before. And no other team has had half their players wearing orange jumpsuits during a game.
Are you sure it is not the Black Bison no one from the Big 10 has ever defeated before—-or would that be lost to, before you clowns did?
Nevertheless, I recall an Easter Sunday not all that long ago when several of your lads were dressed up as orange bunnies and claiming a very unfortunate young lady was “asking for it” when they supplied her with more chocolate eggs that she could handle. They were the ones filled with cream as well, weren’t they? Tisk tisk..no bother now I suppose. Funny those types of Easter bashes never ocurred on Father Glen’s watch…rather amazing now that one ponders the odds and all.
2008 was unquestionably the best season in Iowa history.
The Hogs not only became the first Big Ten team in history to tame the mighty Maine Black Bears but they also ranked No. 1 all time in prison teams.
Bisker82 says:
I also like the fact that he is recognizing his team’s weaknesses and is addressing those issues. The schedule will definitely be tougher next year but that is also how teams improve by playing better competition.
david_allen_coe says:
Brilliant, buffloonatic, just brilliant
Bisker:
Your point is spot on, plus this schedule might motivate our players to work extra hard this off-season.
I am anxious to see if we are more physical next year, too. I also liked the Pittman preview, so I can hardly wait for Marquis as well.
Weber is still the agony and the ecstasy: my UMD kid (who watched a Natl Champ all fall) is down on him but I think he needs a more mature line.
DAC speaks truth to loonacy, but I have learned to let go of him/her/it since the loon is an empty vessel.
Iowa humbled one of footballs most famous coaches so they were for real.
Brewster may or may not measure up, but EVERY Big Ten school must try upgrade their talent.
I also bow to Derek as the weather comment is a legitimate one, and again our Dome may have negatively impacted our success in the Big Ten in our outdoor games. I would be curious to learn our October/Nov road record circa 1982-2008. Still, if one can build a D that blows thru the opponents line, weather if far less of a factor, = the Gophers havent had much for D in recent decades, indoors or out.
Bisker says: I look forward to the tougher schedule. Teams learn to play at a higher level by facing stronger competition.
Well Mr. b, you are going to get it. Our nonconference schedule is tough. I am guessing Cal will be a top 20, maybe top 10 team preseason next year. Air Force runs an offense that is a nightmare to prep for and then defend. Syracuse has an new alum head coach who is shaking things up in that BCS team.
The Big Ten needs an OSU win tonight. Some of you guys don’t realize how much we need the Big Ten to look good to the nation/press/recruits.
Tex … OSU defense looking darn good the first half. I also love how Pryor can escape the rush.
Loon’s right - building TCF (Tiny, Confined Facility) is a step in the right direction. Maybe a game other than Iowa or Wisconsin might sell out there. Maybe.
Big Ten finishes 1-6.
Can Brewster convince kids to come in this lame conference (since it is a power vacuum awaiting a team/coach who can recruit talent)?
Time will tell, but this conference is wide open so I hope Brew is the real deal. He is an intense fellow, as he looked 110% focused as he lead the Gopher walk into ASU stadium. He has the personna, and I hope that attracts some bigtime talent. If Iowa and Utah can do it, there is no reason we cant become beasts as well!!!
On a whole the big ten is still a run oriented league. It does not have a good pass rush and cannot stop the pass. Texas did not play well to start, but can THROW THE BALL and were able to come back in a hurry. Most BT teams cannot do it. BT teams have the Chili mentality, throw -2 to 5 yd passes and hope for the run when there are 9 people within 5 yds. of the line. Gee the pass doesn’t work so we will try to run with 9 people playing there. Texas, USC, Utah all can throw the ball 10 -15 yds. and keep teams honest. I don’t understand why this is so difficult to understand.
joe … If Brewster can’t consistently bring in bigtime talent, we need to find someone who can. There are hundreds of guys who can manage a good club.
There are hundreds of guys who can coach Ohio State. Mason could easily have done as well as Tressel had he gotten the job.
But there are very few guys who can consistently recruit real talent to a down program like Minnesota. Whoever he is, we need that guy.
I’m going to stick up for the Hogeyes. (I can’t believe I’m doing this!!)
Iowa (9-4) may have been the best team in the Big Ten at seasons end. They lost 4 games by a total of 12 points and did edge PSU 24-23. And the only BT team with a bowl win.
Wouldn’t it be nice to say that about our Gophers?
DAC and Bay:
I agree fully with your comments.
I think we agree that Brewster deserves at least two more years to see if he can get us there. Other than kissing his wife right before beginning the ASU victory walk, he looked like a serious man on a serious mission. DAC’s comment is spot on: it’s much tougher rebuilding a decades! old loser than stepping into OSU! Critics forget that.
And yes, Bay, why not salute the Hawkeyes? The last two games made me wonder how they lost 4 games?
The doofi (creepy, too) on this board
whine about winning Big Ten games. So what, if you play in a crummy conference. We need a program that:
wins preseason games
wins Big Ten games
AND kicks bowl butt.
Utah and Iowa show it can be done.
Great game last night. Couple of observations about the QB play that Weber can learn from:
1–McCoy receives the ball like a shortstop turning a double play
2) the snap back to the QB is much quicker than the Gophers
3) McCoy moves up in the pocket as opposed to going backwards (Weber took some large losses in the KU game by trying to go back and outside the pocket)
4) You could see McCoy always knew where is secondary receiver was
5–he always had a guy to go to if he recognized a blitz
6) did you notice McCoys footwork in the backfield?? I am not talking footspeed or running moves but how he positioned himself when handing off the ball
7) This was not one of McCoys better games but did show how to play the spread qb position.
6–I think Weber has the skills to execute the above and hope he learns and improves over the offseason.
Anyone in their right mind knows it takes at least 4 years to build a strong program. Especially considering the status of the program Brewster took on in 07. No coach in America would have won more than 4 or 5 games with that team.
There are plenty of success stories in year four: Alvarez and Ferentz won BT crowns, Wittingham at Utah 13-0. Gundy 9-4 at OkSt. Some have seen good success in three years: Zook 9-4 and Rose Bowl, Fitzgerald NU 9-4, Tedford Cal 10-2, Dontanio at MSU went 9-4 in year two, and a few took longer; Grobe Wake Forest 11-3 and Mangino KU 12-1 in year six and Pinkel at Mizzo 10-2 in year seven.
So we are getting ready for year three of Brewsterball, a very tough schedule and just two recruiting classes to work with. Our record may not improve but I will expect a more competitive team, especially on offense.
Bayfield … I absolutely salute the Hawkeyes. I only dig at them here for the benefit of the clueless Iowa fans who have nothing better to do than rip the Gophers.
Iowa and Kansas were the best teams we played all year. That had a lot to do with when we played them, but that is always true in sports.
Dunbar resigns. Good and adios to his Suzy Spread Offense.
Dunbar and Brewster never fit the same mold. Brewster likes it tough and physical and Dunbar went 100% with his Suzy Spread.
Davis? or someone else to add to the Brewster, Roof, Davis mentality.
Dunbar just “resigned”. No replacement named yet.
Anyone else besides Wren, the Loon and myself happy with Dunbars exit?
Tex … Your observations on McCoy last night are right on the mark. While that was not one of his best games, he sure as heck lit them up the second half and demonstrated very well how the spread looks when run right and with the talent.
However, hoping Weber can learn to step up in the pocket seems late in the game to me. That is not a recent revelation for QB play and not confined to the spread. Pro style QBs have been successfully stepping up in the pocket to deliver strikes for decades.
Really, this is fundamental stuff. Weber had to be taught that by his high school coach. Yet he still has a habit of dropping back, back, back and then trying to outrun a couple of guys who are just as fast as he is.
There are QBs who won the Heisman with fewer career starts than Weber already has under his belt.
Bayfield … I am not unhappy with the resignation (forced out by Brewster). But to be happy, I have to see the replacement.
But here’s a question: Wren demanded 1,287,487 times, all in seperate posts, that Brewster get rid of Dunbar. Now that he has, will Wren give Brewster an ounce of respect?
I have my own prediction on that.
Wren,
Brewster did ditch Dunbar NOW!
A weak OL manifests a lot of problems. Weber was able to get out of trouble earlier in the season by scrambling. Teams saw that and planned for it.
I hold out on my judgement on Weber until he plays behind a solid line, better RB’s and experienced WR’s. And Dunbar expected waaaaaaay too much out of Weber in 07 with the spread. He was not ready to make it go. But it doesn’t matter so much how you line up but what happens once the ball is snapped and the whistle is blown.
Weber is not capable of carrying a team nor should he be expected to. He did improve his ranking from #8 to #3 amongst Big Ten QB’s which is good enough for me. Having a 1st team BT QB would be nice but not necessary to win big and often.
Its obvious Brewster wants to see results unlike Withers, Dunbar and Meyers. I recall Brewster calling his original staff the best in CFB, or something like that, when he was hired. Even they were not good enough to win with the lack of quality players across the board.
Brewster needs to establish his offensive identity, get his man and stand pat. It appears Roof was able to deliver the D scheme that suited Brewster. Now he needs to bring in a new OC after Dunbar and his Suzy Spread was Brewsters offense flavor for two seasons. With Davis, it appears Brewsters philosophy has switch to a more ala carte offense.
In the meantime, there will come a time when Brewster will face the same scrutiny from his boss(s). Improvement must be noted in 09 and signficant improvement in 2010.
Tex–Good call with the footwork. Anybody watching the game that knows anything about playing QB should have recognized the drastic difference between Pryor and McCoy. Pryor’s footwork consistently caused him to throw poorly to his receivers. Accuracy starts with your feet. And yes, I was also very annoyed with Weber’s pocket presence against KU. The 2nd down right before the end of the half sticks out as a time he should have stepped up in the pocket instead of pulling his patented 270 degree pull out to the right. He shows many traits of a QB that has been playing behind a bad line and doesn’t trust his line…either on his rollouts or his misreads within the spread option run (pulling the ball and running in the NU red zone).
Bayfield: 4 or 5 wins in 2007 would have been a hell of a lot better than the 1 stinking, miserable win that this brewster led the program to. This brewster threw away at least four games that he SHOULD have won if he would have been able to utilize a more workable system than this inadequate and one dimensional dunbar ball offense. You may not want to admit it, but you know that this brewster and this dunbar just said, “to heck with these players…we have some good will to play with here…let’s just force this dunbar spread down their throats…” I will NEVER forgive this brewster for that kind of bull-headed stupidity and lack of respect for the players he did have AND the oong-suffering fans who had just been through a buzz-saw of an administrative screw up led by this prexy b and this maturi. They had wasted millions and millions of dollars by frist letting Mason’s contract run down to nothing, and then at the last possible second extending him for five stinking more years…only to buy him out one year later. They screwed up recruiting and they didn’t seem to have a clue what they were doing. No ice water flows through their inadequate administrative planning veins. Only wasted millions and millions of needless and senseless administrative blunders with the football program. Those fools extended Mason when they had allowed his contract to run out. This maturi thought he could just bring in his “godson…” the offensive coordinator at wisky to take the program over. People rammed that foolist nepotistic plan down this maturi’s throat in short order. Then he didn’t know who he was going to hire. He ended up with this brewster. He should have had an experienced coach all ready to go…but…he had NOTHING in place beyond his wisky-soaked offensive coordinator idea. What were they thinking????? What were they doing????? What forced them to extend Mason for five years when they had let his contract run down to total nothingness????? The change then wouldn’t have cost one red cent…not a single dollar would have been borrowed from the General Fund of the University for the coaching change.
This brewster is dead in the water. His third season will maybe produce five wins…possibly less. This footbal program is falling apart before our very eyes. 5 successive humiliating defeats at the end of the 2008 season have sealed the fate of this brewster. It is all over Bayfield. He can NOT pull out of this downward crash course that he has put himself into. He is NOT a good game day coach. He has NOT surrunded himself with a staff of good coaches. He has picked the WRONG offense to run.
2009 should have been a great year…the year of the STADIUM! And this brewster has screwed it all up. He stuck with this dunbar too long. He NEVER should have brought this dunbar on board. He had NO clue what he needed to do when he took over. He STILL has NO clue what he would need to do to finally start pointing this program in the right direction.
More and more junior college players are coming on the scene. THAT is sheer terror and panic on this brewster’s part. I hate watching this happen. It has been like watching a train-wreck happen in slow motion.
This maturi needs to go. This prexy b needs to retire…he stayed at the party too long…he is too long of tooth…he was an insider who really doesn’t get the fiscal responsibility stuff. This brewster hung on to this dunbar and his offense too long. It is all over now. He has been in charge for 25 games and it would appear his experiment has been contaminated and ruined.
Sure, he will have the 2009 season. IF he achieves only four or five wins, the way I fear this bad hand will be played out, who knows what will happen in the 2010 season. 2009 is pretty well doomed to the type of reslts this brewster ball has produced during the first 25 game disaster period of his tenure. 8-17 is about a 32% winning percentage over all. That would appear to be what will happen overall in the 2009 season. 4 wins would get him to 33% overall. He has been 3-13 in Big Ten play. 1 or 2 Big Ten wins in 2009 will about do it.
THAT will place this brewster and this maturi on “death-row…” as the leaders of this football program. Maybe they will get a 2010 season…but…the media will be all over their cases. More and more fans will start complaining about what they are being forced to purchase on Game Day Saturdys. Even the new stadium won’t help their plights and futures very much. This experiment perpetrated upon we poor long-term Gopher fans has looked like the administrative moves made too many times at the University of Minnesota during the Wilderness Years.
I do NOT like this brewster-ball and I am not going to silently sit back and say nothing. I do NOT like this maturi and the way he has run this football program during his tenure at the University of Minnesota.
This brewster and this maturi will be gone within the next two years. They have NOT preformed well enough to stay. Neither has the experience or the resources to turn this thing around during the next two seasons. It is all over for them in January of 2008, but, you ppeople can have it your way. That’s fine, I guess. Good things are NOT happening over at the Bierman Complex these days. That is a real shame. We will be frced to witness this disaster unfold to it’s merciful conclusion in 2010 at the latest.
It’s really a shame that it has played out this way.
Bayfield–
I think I’m fine with Dunbar’s exit but I’m not as excited as you. I personally think poor line play was at the heart of the offensive struggles. However, Dunbar didn’t do much to adjust for that. Northwestern’s o-line wasn’t much different than ours but they were smart enough to throw quick routes (I’d call them 3 step drops if it was under center instead of from the shotgun). For the most part our play calling was unimaginative and boring but every once in a while Dunbar would have a wrinkle with a really well designed play (Pittman pass vs. Kansas, option pass to Green vs. Wisconsin, option to Decker at WR that scored multiple TD’s).
Overall, I saw a OC that looked like good at designing plays but struggled to adjust in games.
Holy cow Wren, that is long even for you. Why you are complaining and spreading fear today, Dunbar is gone, you should be running around singing like when they killed the Wicked Witch in The Wizard of Oz.
Bayfield … Anybody who thinks Weber was the third best QB in the Big Ten this past season is smoking some serious stuff.
He was outplayed by six of the eight Big Ten QBs we faced and five of them were not starters at the beginning of the year.
Wren,
You were predicting Brewster would be gone after this season. What happened! I don’t know if Brewster is the answer, but this team should be very good next year. It will be up to the coaches on how they play. If Brewster wins 5 games or less this year as you predict, then it’s time to find a new coach.
Brewster has done everything Wren and Loon wanted pertaining to our coaches.
1. They hated Withers and so Brewster got Roof.
2. They hated O-line coach and so we got Davis.
3. They hated Dunbar and now he’s gone.
You gotta love the fact Brewster will stand up and “resign” the guys who need to be “resigned”. Withers, Meyer, and now old Mike.
You guys are looking at Old Mike’s play calling and style more than you should. I’m guessing Brewster also based the decision on the fact Old Mike was not pulling in the recruits.
Davis was on board a couple of days when we got a commitment from Wills, a guy Davis had recruited at Alabama. Roof just pulled in a 4-star Dback in Paige. If you want to coach with Brewster you need to recruit.
A couple of side notes on poor old Mike Dunbar. Only two teams all year scored more points on Ohio State than did Dunbar’s Gopher offense. And, imagine how he feels finally having a possibly real spread QB for next year and getting the boot?
The good news on naming Davis “Running Game Coordinator” was that it set the stage for “resigning” poor old Mike Dunbar.
The bad news on naming Davis “Running Game Coordinator” is that it might make it more difficult to get the great Offensive Coordinator we need. Will another big time OC come in knowing there is another cook in the kitchen?
david_allen_coe says:
January 5th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Derek … Theret has actually been a life-saver stepping in at safety and having to compete over his head. We just didn’t have anybody better. Let’s give him credit for his effort.
However, in 2009 Theret goes the path of Collado and plays as a backup. If Brewster does not have a faster, more athletic safety to put on the field we are in big trouble.
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I will always give credit for effort and I’ve always heard he’s a good kid. But he wasn’t a life saver. In the Bowl Game along he was out of position on 2 TD’s, one of them being the first play of the game.
Hawks says:
January 5th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
The Big Ten is always screwed come bowl time.
1. We’re always playing someone in their backyard. Example: PSU vs USC
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And that is bad? You got to play Iowa in “your backyard?” Example: 55-0
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Would that be 55 felonies for Iowa? You must be so proud.
Hawks says:
January 5th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
david_allen_coe says:
January 5th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Hawks … Congratulations on turning the season around. Your defeat of Penn State and the Bowl win, coupled with your heroic wins again the Maine Black Bears and Florida International, have made the world forget that 48 of your players were arrested on felony charges.
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Please attempt to confine yourself to facts, David. I do understand being a goofer fan, that feat may be genetically impossible. Go Montana State….RAH!
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Facts, says the little Pigeon trolling on the Gopher board. Why are Pig City fans so obsessed with Minnesota?
david_allen_coe says:
January 6th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Bayfield … I absolutely salute the Hawkeyes. I only dig at them here for the benefit of the clueless Iowa fans who have nothing better to do than rip the Gophers.
Iowa and Kansas were the best teams we played all year. That had a lot to do with when we played them, but that is always true in sports.
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Agreed. There would be plenty of compliments Iowa’s way if they had on intelligent fan.
Reality says:
January 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Loon’s right - building TCF (Tiny, Confined Facility) is a step in the right direction. Maybe a game other than Iowa or Wisconsin might sell out there. Maybe.
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How cute PH has yet another screen name!
david_allen_coe says:
January 6th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Bayfield … Anybody who thinks Weber was the third best QB in the Big Ten this past season is smoking some serious stuff.
He was outplayed by six of the eight Big Ten QBs we faced and five of them were not starters at the beginning of the year.
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We may have to debate this DAC. Where did Weber finish in the All Big Ten voting? I’d argue 4 QB’s at best outperformed Weber in confernce games. I’d also argue Weber had the worst offensive line play in conference.
david_allen_coe says:
January 6th, 2009 at 10:29 am
You gotta love the fact Brewster will stand up and “resign” the guys who need to be “resigned”. Withers, Meyer, and now old Mike.
You guys are looking at Old Mike’s play calling and style more than you should. I’m guessing Brewster also based the decision on the fact Old Mike was not pulling in the recruits.
Davis was on board a couple of days when we got a commitment from Wills, a guy Davis had recruited at Alabama. Roof just pulled in a 4-star Dback in Paige. If you want to coach with Brewster you need to recruit.
A couple of side notes on poor old Mike Dunbar. Only two teams all year scored more points on Ohio State than did Dunbar’s Gopher offense. And, imagine how he feels finally having a possibly real spread QB for next year and getting the boot?
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I like the fact Brewster is willing to make changes that sorely need to be made. If your offense is not working AND you can’t recruit, you are part of the problem.
Dunbar’s offense may have scored the 3rd most points on tOSU, but 14 points came after the game was decided.
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