Your reaction?
Posted on January 9th, 2009 – 3:36 PMBy Kent Youngblood
It’s pretty clear to see from the comments that many fans don’t think the hiring of Kevin Cosgrove was a good idea.
If you look at what happened in Nebraska, I can’t blame you. But let’s take a look at the whole resume.
He was good enough to coordinate two defenses that won Rose Bowls in Wisconsin. Everybody I talked to said he’s a good recruiter. Heck, he was off recruiting right after signing his deal today.
Barry Alvarez said Cosgrove was one of his best recruiters, especially in the midwest. He was especially strong in the St. Louis area.
I say let’s wait and see.
Critis point out that the Big Ten Cosgrove is rejoining is different than the one he left in 2004. True. The spread — something Nebraska had a very difficult time stopping in Cosgrove’s last year there in 2007 — has come to the Big Ten big time. Will the Gophers be able to stop it?
One interesting thing Alvarez told me was that Cosgrove — who did some volunteer coaching for his son’s high school team in Madison — spent a good bit of his season going to different schools around the country researching how other defensive coaches worked.
It also stands to reason that the way things ended in Nebraska and the subsequent season off — his first after 28 years in college ball — built quite a fire in Cosgrove’s belly. I have to figure he has a lot to prove.
Is it a ‘’sexy” hire? No, probably not.
But let’s give it a chance. Brewster said major modifications will not be in the works for the defense. That means Cosgrove will tweak it to fit his ideas, not overhaul it in a way that would keep kids’ heads spinning over spring practice and fall camp.
So what do the Gophers get? At the very least a man who is highly motivated, someone who has proven his chops as a recruiter.
Will it all work out? Recent history with Gophers offensive coorinators is against him. The position has had a revolving door on the office since the Glen Mason era. One fan can look at this as an experience hire while another will look at it as a recycle job.
He should work well with Ronnie Lee; the two were on the same staff in Wisconsin in 2003. While they share co-coordinator duties, Brewster said Cosgrove will be calling the defense during games.
So that leaves one more coordinator to go. Reports out of Texas indicate that Major Applewhite was approached by Brewster but wanted to stay with the Longhorns. Brewster said it could be done by early next week.
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143 Responses to "Your reaction?"
Kent I know the Strib is having some tough times and you may be out of a job soon but do you really need to kiss that much ass. Way to defend the hire of the guys team you have to cover. No one is spinning it the way you have. How is he out recruiting already when he has not even taken the NCAA recruiting test yet? A client of mine called me after reading your post and called BS to that statement right away. I did hear that Cosgrove loves to recruit. I hope he puts a litle time aside to figure out how to stop a offense.
I don’t like anything about the badgers and I certainly don’t like their recycled coaches/coordinators. We are unfortunately stuck with this maturi badger. I guess we won’t be too surprised if this maturi tells this brewster to hire this chryst character who is this maturi’s god-son and also offensive coordinator in madison…of all places, wisky. Then maybe this maturi can retire to madison, wisky and cash his buy out money from the University of Minnesota.
I don’t like anything about the badgers…ever. I don’t like anything about the stinking hawkeyes either. Don’t EVER mention that chuck long character again.
This is turning into a real joke. We FINALLY get a new stadium and they start putting badger recycled coaches and ad’s on the stinking staff. IF this maturi EVER invites that goose-stepping badger band into TCF BANK STADIUM we will KNOW that this maturi i on the stinking badger payroll too.
This cosgrove character was a bad (ger) hire. Who needs a “co” coordinator for the defense any way.
EVERY thing that goes wrong on defense will go on maturi, this brewster and this cosgrove. They had BETTER pound the stinking badgers into the ground in 2009 in TCF BANK STADIUM. IF they don’t, this maturi, brewster and cosgrove had better take a hike. And LEAVE that chryst character in madison where he belongs. Let long go to ic to replace this ferentz but don’t let him near our stadium!
Rumor on the OC is that the #1 choice is a coach for one of the two teams playing last night.
Read Kent’s article! Kiss ass? I don’t think so. Kent has time and time again proven to be wise and considered in his writings. He is fair and straight forward; unlike that PatPrick Reusse mud slinger. There is the BSer. How did Ronnie Wingo get scheduled out of St. Louis? IF Cosgrove can sign a couple of 4 star prospects that should get some of the dogs off of his heels and give him a fair shot. Another guy posted some stats about his tour at Nebraska. While it was not everythiong everyone wanted all the time, he did a good job there and at the Badgers. Obviously he was a big threat to ‘Big Bert’ and Barry wanted him back. I have that from a high up insider at the Wishconsin Athletic Dept. Give the man a chance and show him some tough love. Demand the best from him, starting now!
OC= Josh Heupel Oklahoma
I think this is the sort of hire made to keep a coach for more than one year. Cosgrove has a record of coaching solid defenses with the exception of what happened at Nebraska in 2007. That team had so many problems, starting with their former head coach, that Cosgrove might not have been the reason for such poor performance. It is the big name people wanted? No, but it could turn out very nicely in the long run. The one thing people need to do is give it time. As for OC, I just want someone who will teach Weber that there is more than one receiver on the field at a time.
Dave7474,OC= Josh Heupel= dead end after all that work at Oklahoma. The guy has never called a play in his young life. Now this will be interesting. A head coach that has never called a game, a run game coordinator that has never called a game and a OC who has been coaching for a couple of years who has never called a play. Maybe we can just put on Weber to call the correct play at the appropriate time. I told you guys that Dunbar was run out of Cal and you would not believe me and now we are going to hire someone with NO play calling experience. Give me a brake.
We may have a new defensive recruit today (Nosa Equae a three-star DE — 6′3″ 235 lb. — out of Texas).
Well Bud, since it’s all speculation, how about Jay Norvell?
JSimons79 that excuse does not work anymore. Just give it some time has past. The rats are jumping or being thrown off the ship. Money is paid off with results. Time to produce.
poke the next thing you will post is that Cosegrove helped get the guy to commit. If Davis was recruiting the o-lineman for Alabama then Bama was in violation of the rules. Davis was an admistrator down at Bama and not even allowed on the field. He had nothing to do with recruiting.
ok so let them all recruit now hire some coaches.
why did they take a chance on brew. tubby proves when you hire the best you win. why would anyone leave texas to coach in this situation.
It is what it is. I agree we should give Cosgrove the opportunity to perform before judging his worth. But I really liked the upgrade for Ronnie Lee.
poke Jay Norvell would make sense. He is another Wisc. coach who Maturi would love to bring into the Gopher family. Maturies next hire will be to bring Barry out of retirement and get him to coach the Gophers.
Kent I can understand where you are coming from but the UW teams in the Rose Bowl had ball control offenses with stud running backs that kept the defense off the field a great deal of the time. I hope Cosgrove turns out but history is telling me different.
Brewster must have had a change of heart Captain. Lee was not kept when Bielama took over and was one and done at Michigan. Gets hired at MN and does not get the co title with Roof but becomes a co with Cosegrove. We bump Cross last year to Asst. Head and now Lee to Co but he will not be calling the plays. You should be able to figure this one out.
Actually Bud, we were recruiting Equae from the beginning. It appears he decommitted from Colorado. Doesn’t seem like he’s too worried about Cosgrove.
A lot of those games against wisky were fairly high scoring affairs. I never thought that many of those badger teams ever had really outstanding defenses. They ran the ball and controlled the clock and scored touchdowns. Keep the other team off the field…that was their most effective defense.
So, findng an offensive coordinator who will keep the other team’s offense off the field, control the clock and score touchdowns will be the Gopher’s most effective defense as well. That’s pretty much the whole deal. With a good enough running game, who the heck needs “co” defensive coordinators?????
Just because cosgrove’s name starts with “co” doesn’t mean he needs to be a “co” defensive coordinator does it? ; 0)
Brewster better come up with a killer selection at OC, because Cosegrove certianly was not a killer selection for DC.
Gold4, how does your prediction for 10 wins look now or will you back off and give them another year to get settled in at the coaching positions?
Bud, barry is now the AD at Wisc. so we won’t be getting him as a coach.
Bud, Josh Heupel is a brilliant young coach that could do a fantastic job. This is what we need, someone with something to prove and with a higher goal. 4-5 yrs. and if he does well he will move on, thats what is good, hungry young coaches.
Some of these posts - geezo-beezo.
Kent’s right - definitely not the sexiest pick - but all we can do is give it time. It’s only a game; and we’re a country mile away from those two teams last night anyway. We need NFL caliber athletes… on a upper MAC budget…
And Maturi has done a good job, which is a brutal one at that.
Bud,
This team should win 8 to 10 games next year. They will have depth, expereince, and talent. I can’t take responsibility if they underperform. Mase did a good job at underperforming and this year we’ll see how Brewster does.
I have always said that 2009 is when I’ll decide if Brewster is the right guy or not. I’m still going with 10 wins but I have always said that I have the right to change just before opening game kickoff. I have been almost right on in my predictions these last 5 years, so when my prediction is final I’ll let you know.
The Gophers should win around ten games in 09 but I with the new coaches I might have to change my prediction. With Cosvgrove we may never win 10 games.
I’d take Mike Hoensee at the OC. Sign him to a one year contract like Cosvgrove and then decide after the 2009 season wether to keep Brewster on or not. I do not know why Maturi feels he has to sign Brewster to an extension before the 2009 season starts.
Cosgrove’s defenses at Nebraska were for the most part pretty competitive and among the better ones in the Big 12. The Huskers problem when he was there was Bill Callahan’s West Coast offense which never took hold because he didn’t have the players to run it.
litlebigboy you got the young part correct. I am sure he is a wonderful young man. Wake up and smell the roses. The word is out, you do not want to work for this ding bat. The last two coaches we have hired have not even been coaching in the field last season. Davis was in football ops and Cosgrove was at a high school. We did not have to do much to persuade them to come to MN. Don’t get what I am saying wrong, I am sure they are good people but when you have to start dipping this low in the labor pool there is a reason. Next up an OC who has never called plays and is coaching at OU. He will not have OU’s players to coach so what will make his inexperience an asset. I do not even know if he is coaching the QB’s at OU. We need a QB coach to go along with our OC. Lets wait and see who we end up with.
Have the details of the Cosgrove contract come out yet?
The new buzz phrase that has really caught on, “let’s wait and see”.
What, did you miss the later half of this season? Did you miss how all those young guys were coming along?
PS Kent worked in Madison too. Yikes, their everywhere!!
One/half down and one/half to go with the coco’s. Still waiting for the absolute killer announcement. But that would have to be someone like a Mike Shanahan. Not.
So where are we?
The Cosgrove/Lee and Fill-in-the-blank OC/Davis, like their boss, have tons of work to do get the Gophers in a win big and often status. I would be ecstatic to see the 2009 Gophers match Cosgroves 14 year average at Wisky of allowing 21 ppg. That requires some decent D talent something we are in short supply.
Lets check-in with each other in a couple years and see how everyone is doing. In the meantime, I hope Brewster can continue to wow in recruits, keep a staff intact and decide which schemes he wants to utilize.
Bud, Heupel is known as a strong recruiter that connects well with college kids. He is an up and comer. It is well documented that Major Applewhite was called. He’s not much more experienced than Heupel. I am not a fan of the Cosgrove hire. I think Brewster was considering him the home run. I think Heupel would surprise a lto of people. It is obvious that Brewter likes to grab coaches from the Big 12.
Cosgrove is an upgrade from Ted Roof. Roof was
6-45 as a head coach and as a D coordinator his teams were never better than average.
Yes the Gophers were much better on D under Roof than they were in 2007 with Withers, but a large part of that was that recuiting (especially JUCOs) last year was focused on upgrading the talent on D at the expenese of the offense.
Bud says,
“Give me a brake.”
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OK, here’s a brake, you illiterate hate monger … put it on your three-wheeler and ride off a cliff.
Wilk You better go back and check out how competitive Neb. defenses were !!!!
Bud Heupel does coach QB’s at OU and for the best part of the last few yrs. has signled the play in. He and the OC work very closely.
Mike Hoensee would be good also.
Right now I’d take Hoensee at OC over anyone else I’ve heard. He wants to be here and has been a quarterback before. Sign him for one year like you did Covsgrove, that way if they don’t work out you are not stuck with their contracts. I know Hoensee may be more of a risk then the other guys, but it’s one I’d be willing to take.
Reports are its Josh Heupel as OC.
Comments on Cosgroves hiring on Kent’s article in todays (Sat,) paper and his comments above:
–Coaches are like a “Medical” fraternity. Quoting Barry Alverez means nothing. Have you ever heard a football coach cut down a former member of his staff. If Cosgrove was that good he would still be on Wisconsin’s staff. Why didn’t Alverez put in a good word for Cosgrove when Bilema was looking for DC.
–Cosgrove has extra motivation. When you have been unemployed, one will tend to have extra motivation.
–Cosgrove could have left Neb. to go with Childress. They both had one thing in common, both were about to have been run out of Madison before both of them left.
–How could Neb. defense finish 112th naionally with all the good recruits they can and do get there, because of their lower academic standards and Cosgrove being such a good recruiter.
–Brewster states that Cosgorve really wanted to be a Gopher. He wanted to be a part of our program. It is really important to players that we have people who want to be here. What does that say about the 1st two DC’s? Hey Tim I want to be a Gopher and part of the program. I’ll take 170K and the other 100K Maturi can use to pay off Dunbar after his supposedly resignation.
–Cosgrove used his free time in doing consulting work. How can a consultant be going around studying other coaches on how to stop the spread offense? Should he not know this if he is going to do consulting work with another coach and his staff.
–Cosgrove now does not have to go far on learning how to stop the spread offense. He can now venture over to the Bierman complex and go to the basement office of Mike Dunbar (who has plenty of time since he resigned, but still gets paid)and discuss the spread offense that Dunbar used at Northwestern and Cosgrove could never stop.
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Kent, states, “Nebraska had a hard time defending the Big 12’s spread offense, a fact aggravated by a Neb. offense that could not stay on the field”….. which only means that their defense was exploited more. At UW Cosgrove had the benefit of Alvarez ball control offense which kept Cosgroves defense off the field. And towards the end of Cosgroves stay there his defense could not make the stop to give the ball control offense the ball.
–Brewster must have a lot of confidence in Cosgrove by giving him a 1 year contract when the norm in the past (Withers,Dunbar,Roof) has been 3 years.
Kent could you ask Joel Maturi if has paid the bill for the search firm that recommended Brewster. If not maybe he could ask for adjustment on the fee.
While talking to Maturi ask him about the recruiting violation Cogrove committed against the Univ. of Illinois. Maturi should know as he was at UW when it occurred and Kent you probably know also, as you were working in Madison at the time. Get ahold of Jimmy Williams attorneys as they would probably find this very interesting. And finally who in their right frame of mind would want to become a part of and offense staff with two other coordinators. (Brewster, Davis, and new guy)? A football staff with 5 coordinatiors? You have to be kidding me.
Kit Johnson … Have you paid the army of investigators you hired to frantically dig up dirt on Cosgrove? Must be very important to you.
The one smart thing they did is give Cosgrove a one year contract. I’d do the same for Heupel, even if that means you have to pay him a little more money. Then if things go bad this year the only contract Maturi has to eat is Brewster’s. Or if things go okay this year and you want to give Brewster another year, you could resign the staff for one year. Then decide after the 2010 season if you want to keep Brewster or not.
If I was Maturi I would not be in a hurry to sign Brewster. Let this season play out before making any decisions.
This year will be an interesting season.
Dac, I did not mean to offend you or anyone else on the board, but the way the program is heading does not make sense to me. As positive as you are of the program you have to admit you have some questions in your own mind about what has happen the past couple of weeks. If you don’t that is great, I wish I could be you. In addition I did not pay an army of investigators frantically to write what I did above, but just stated facts if you have answers to, please let me know, as I cannnot figure them out. I personally hope Cosgrove and the Gophers prove me wrong and have a great year. This will be the last time I post on this site, as I do not want to offend anybody any more. I hope all of you have a great 2009.
Kit Johnson … You didn’t offend anyone, so don’t quit posting here.
Wrenbawlbabybabbler offends sensibilities, common decency, common sense, and logic with each of his posts, all longer than an average Tolstoy novel, and none intelligble, and no one has suggested he stop posting.
I have looked at Cosgrove’s record and it is very good overall. He has had excellent results at Wisconsin and pretty good results at Nebraska other than one terrible year. Withers had a good coaching record before and since his one terrible statistical performance here.
The defense is part of the team. The defense depends on good athletes, just like the offense and special teams. You can’t lay all the blame on poor performance to the coaching staff. They share it, of course.
My main concern at this point in the Gopher program is recruiting. Cosgrove has a good recruiting record and that is positive. If there was a better guy out there it would need to be based on recruiting ability. Established recruiters from the SEC and Big 12 are not looking for jobs right now.
You are correct, Husker, I am an up & commer! If I land this gig and do even reasonably well the first year, I will have even more experience than Brewster when he was hired and on to to a real job back in a warm climate!
Josh Heupel was a fan of mine back in the day when he was growing up in South Dakota. The team he grew up watching and routing for was Minnesota and I was his favorite player, he loved wearing my #14. He is a great QB coach and will make an good OC and eventually a great HC. So take it from Foogie he is A-Ok.
Kit-Roof only had a 1 year contract.
It sounds like Heupel has been offered a job by Minnesota. I’m assuming the title would be QB Coach/Passing Game Coordinator.
As QB Coach for Oklahoma he has mentored two Heisman winning quarterbacks: Jason White & Sam Bradford.
Oklahoma runs a ’spread coast’ offense which means he would likely bring a passing offense with terminology similar to what we have been using. The talent we have been recruiting has been recruited to play in this type of a system and the transition will likely be easier than the transition of the power running game wrinkle that Davis is implementing.
Foggie says:
January 10th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Josh Heupel was a fan of mine back in the day when he was growing up in South Dakota. The team he grew up watching and routing for was Minnesota and I was his favorite player, he loved wearing my #14. He is a great QB coach and will make an good OC and eventually a great HC. So take it from Foogie he is A-Ok.
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What does all of that have to do with anything? punky swears he, “loves the golden gophers,” yet, that ‘love’ did not prevent him from attempting to secure an interview for the TN job after only being here 2 years.
Josh Heupel hasn’t been offered anything. He probably wouldn’t even come here to be the OC. He is the going to be the head coach at OU when Stoops steps away. It would take a heck of alot to get him out of there.
Bud, give me a break?? Hmm interesting news about Heupel, huh. I say there is a 20% chance he takes it.
Husker Fan, what other assistants and co-coordinators you have down there in Norman. If Heupel doesnt work maybe we will go after Novell or Wilson. Oh don’t tell me these guys are also been groomed to be HC after Stoops steps away. Oh yeah when will Stoops be stepping down?? 2025?
Recruiting I was just stating a fact and some history about the guy and his connection with MN that is all. I didn’t mean anything other than that.
I still think Mike Hohensee would not be a bad move. Sign him to a one year contract like Cosgrove and then at the end of 2009 if Maturi wants to go in a different direction then Brewster’s contract is the only one you have to eat.
I still think Hohensee might turn out to be a very good pick. If things go well, I think Hohensee would stay here and not be willing to jump ship. Hohensee is a risk worth taking. With Heupel if things go well for him I could see him going somewhere else.
This whole episode(s),”wreeks” of Brews
lack of experience ! He has no clue how
to run a BCS level program. This is on
the job training. I’ve been following
college football for 25 years,and this
reminds me of a poorly ran high school
program.
Oh,get the 1AA’s off the schedule, it’s
a total joke.Hopefully for the Gopher
faithful,he will be gone in the near
future. The rest of the Big Ten loves
him!
Dr. Steve says,
“This whole episode(s),”wreeks” of Brews
lack of experience ! He has no clue how
to run a BCS level program.”
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Just to clarify, Quack Steve, do all other BCS programs sign assistants to lifetime contracts? You are suggesting that none ever leaves, right?
Given that USC lost both the offensive and defensive coordinators after this season does that indicate Pete Carroll has no clue how to run a BCS program?
Your explanation would be appreciated, Quack.
What other D-1,or 1AA head coach has been hired that had NO previous coordinator, or head coach experience!
Brewster is the only individual that owes anyone a explanation. Oh,
where did his own son end up at?
Texas.
According to a 1999 study about half of the D1 head coaches had prior coordinator experience.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FIH/is_6_68/ai_n18608341
Dr. Quack … You owe an explanation of why you are saying Pete Carroll has no clue how to run a BCS program.
By the way, Brewster has two years of head coaching experience at a BCS school. He took a team with barely a handful of Big Ten players from a 1-11 season to 7-5 and a bowl invitation. He brought in the 17th best recruiting class in the country in his first year.
There are dozens of Division 1 coaches with resumes longer than Loon’s rap sheet that could not coach at Minnesota because they could not get the players. Brewster was hired because he can recruit. That is job 1, job 2, and job 3 right now.
poke says,
“According to a 1999 study about half of the D1 head coaches had prior coordinator experience.”
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Does that mean the other half do not have coordinator experience? Hmmmmm … I wonder why Dr. Quack would say Brewster is the only head coach who ever lived who had no coordinator experience?
Mr.Dac,
The other half were head coaches at
some college. Not a second rate position
coach on a average pro team in a weak
division.
USC’s ability to re-create themselves
is because of there coach’s ability.
Something Brew has never had to do.
You must be a lap-dog on Joeys staff.
Good luck and good hunting.
Sorry, Dr. Steve only 38% of head coaches coached at levels other then D1.
Dr. Quack … Poke has simply destroyed your silly and inaccurate assertions. You are wrong, Quack.
Dr. Steve-Kirk Ferentz was never a coordinator at any level. Prior to accepting the head coaching job at Iowa his only experience was 3 years, earlier in his career, at a DI-AA school. So you answer your question of what other DI or DI-AA coach has ever been hired without coordinator or head coaching experience: Kirk Ferentz.
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Guys, whether you like him or not, Brewster will be the coach for the next 2 years. He deserves a 4 year run at this operation. The U rolled the dice with him and the jury is still out.
No, I don’t think so Tex. The guy who is making Brew look bad is Tubby Smith. Forget about the new guys Tubby has brought in. Just ask yourself this very obvious question: are the players recruited before Tubby arrived playing better under Tubby than they played under the previous coaches? They have and they are.
Now ask the same about Brewster. Nope.
Coach Smith has improved his team by showing up and applying his principles.
Coach Brewster is still trying to figure out what he believes in.
Sorry, one talks the talk, the other walks the walk.
I agree Texas. And Maturi needs to sit tight on any extension.
You win by bringing in a bunch of good players and coach them well. IMO, Brewster has to show more than what he has to this point and 09 is an important year. But the talent level and depth is not where it needs to be.
Loon, did the Michigan players play better under their new coach?
Loon: Keep in mind that Tubby is coaching 5 players at a time. Brewster is coaching 22. Big difference. Given that, it is true that Tubby is a proven coach, Brewster is not… yet. As most people here would agree, the jury is still out. Look at Michigan’s record for 2008. Give them a couple of years and they are going to be hard to stop. Hopefully the Gophers will be one of those teams that does stop them.
Loon … You apparently know as little about basketball as you do about football.
There is no dispute that Tubby is one of the best coaches in the college game. However, Minnesota has been a very good basketball school for several decades under Musselman, Dutcher, and Haskins. We were only down briefly under Monson. It was not a stretch for a good coach like Tubby to take the job.
There was no football coach of Tubby’s stature that would have touched the Gopher job.
And, Tubby was able to replace 45% of his playing rotation in his first recruiting class. What percentage change could Brewster make with his first recruiting class?
How much better are Jon Williams and Kevin Payton playing under Tubby than before Tubby?
Souds like Heupel did not work out. Mike Hohensee is still out there. Sign Hohensee for a year and see what he can do. I bet he’d do better then Dunbar.
Gold–what is Hohensee doing these days?? Seems to me he was coaching in Canada but not sure.
The buffloonatic crows,
“Just ask yourself this very obvious question: are the players recruited before Tubby arrived playing better under Tubby than they played under the previous coaches?”
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Loon … It is not illegal to think before posting.
Of the 11 guys in Tubby’s playing rotation only three played for the previous coaching staff — Westbrook, Johnson and 11th man Abu Shamala.
Along with the five new recruits this year, Busch transferred in for Tubby’s first season and Nolen and Hoffharber, while signed by the old staff, never played for the old staff. They arrived on campus with Tubby.
poke, you brewster apologists are all alike. Michigan is going through some tough times mostly own their own making.
Ohio State has kicked their butts for SO long and they pushed themselves to the point of competetive bankruptcy by forcing out their coach who has been the ONLY coach in the past half century to win them a national championship. (Not even the legendary Bo won a N.C.) They bailed on their Carr. Now they have a “hotrodder” running the show. He failed miserably in 2008. Just like GM and Ford and Chrysler have failed with their “cars…” The football industry at Michigan had better do a LOT better in 2009 and it had better not collapse during the last half of the Big Ten schedule in 2009. IF this richrodder doesn’t beat OSU…AND MSU in 2009, the heat is really going to be on him. I think Michigan lost their big gamble because their “lemon” of a new coach failed to take advantage of the existing talent and threw a season away in 2008. He has NO good will remaining and if he doesn’t produce big time in 2009, he will have dug himself a very deep hole.
IF the coach at MSU continues to surprise on the up side…it could make things a lot tougher for this ad and coach at Michigan. I kind of hope it goes down that way. Michigan needs some more humility shoved down it’s throat.
So, just because Michigan played such rotten football under their new coach you would use that as continued excuses for this brewser who threw away the 2007 season and then promptly threw away the second half of the Big Ten season in 2008????? THAT is your excuse for this brwster being 3-13 in Big Ten play after two full seasons????? Can we expct this coach at Michigan to start replacing coordinators at an ALARMING rate…even spending lots of money to buy them out…admitting that he picked the WRONG coordinators to start with????? Will the coach at Michigan start hunting for his perfect offense and perfect defense after 2 full seasons coaching in Ann Arbor. Will the foolish ad at Michigan begin talking about extending his “throw away the season” coach/recruiter/gm?????
Michigan has gotten itself into a real jam all because it couldn’t beat OSU. The 2009 season will show us just what flavor of jam it is in.
I KNEW this maturi and this brewster were in a real sad, sick situation when Michigan smashed in this brewster’s bubble by a score of 29 to 6 in the dome during a year that Michigan had suffered a self-induced, incompetently coached melt-down and disaster of a 2008 season. I KNEW that dunbar would be sacraficed and I KNEW that this maturi and this brewster were in a LOT of trouble. I knew that this brewste would then have to wait for a new offensive coordinator to explain to him what kind of offense NOW would define this brewster’s philosophy of offense. The 55-0 “rivalry capitulation and no-show” was just further evidence of how much destruction this maturi and this gm brewster had delivered to the U of M football program after only 24 games of spread-coast…gm induced atrophy of the football program. Then there was the bowl melt-down situation. How very pathetic…
d_a_c the Men’s hoops program was down because of the haskin’s SCANDAL and the NCAA SANCTIONS, LOSS of scholarships and all of the hell that haskins brought to the program. Before him, Mussleman had cheated. During Dutchr’s coaching tenure there was loss of institutional control of the players. THAT pretty well sums up that success that we all loved when it was happening. In retrospect it was all pretty clouded. Hopefully Tubby is following the staright and narrow path that Monson oversaw. I have NO reason to think he isn’t…but. the Men’s Hoops program ALWAYS leaves me very nervous about what is real and what is “real…” going on behind the scenes at the Barn.
Hohensee was has been coach of the Chicago arena football team for the past 10 years. He won the arena title two years ago. The league is taking a year off this year, so I’m sure he’s looking for a job. I’d take a chance on him.
wrenbawlbabbler … Please note Gopher basketball has been excellent and very competitive for most of the last 35 years. Musselman, Dutcher, and Haskins were all three good coaches and great recruiters.
And it would be very safe to say that Minnesota has been one of the cleanest basketball programs in the country. The legion of goodytwoshoes lawyers at the NCAA know where the easy pickings are.
They always go after a program that won’t fight back and where the administration will try to make the charges more serious than they are so we can all feel good about ourselves afterwards. After all, in Minnesota that’s all it’s about isn’t it. Let’s all feel good about what good people we are.
Is there any feeling here that the guys that are turning down the HC job are doing so in hopes of getting Brewster’s job in the near future or are they just worried about needed to look for a job within the next two years if they come here?
Oh, and Dr. Steve…most schedules include one 1AA team since they went to 12 games. The only way to get rid of it would be to play everyone in the conference on only have two non-conference games and no one in the Big Ten is going for that. It will be rare to have a season without a 1AA school (or whatever they call them now).
EVER WONDER WHY NO COACHES WANT TO COME AND WORK FOR COACH LOSESTER THE ABUSER?
EVER WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN OFFERED THE OC POSITION BY COACH WONDERFUL? 12? 15?
That post says a lot about who you are as a Gopher fan, dac. You come at Gopher football from the perspective that cheating is normal in life, therefore, we should cheat too.
I don’t. As I have stated before, I’d rather lose than cheat.
But, you are right about one thing, the next time we are caught cheating the NCAA will kill us. We are not “the goose that lays the golden egg”.
ANDY ROONEY says:
January 12th, 2009 at 11:15 am
…..EVER WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN OFFERED THE OC POSITION BY COACH WONDERFUL? 12? 15?
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I am a drinking buddy of Wren’s. Last night on a bender, Wayne told me it was less than 10. It took him the whole night to say that, but I can confirm that it is less than 10.
The haskin’s scandal was the worst academic cheating scandal on record and you think it was business as usual d_a_c?????? That says a lot about your moral compass.
They had to pay Monson millions and millions of dollars to keep the program alive until the “heat would be off enough” to give another coach a chance to not have sanctions and loss of scholarships AND the stench would clear from both the athletic department AND the academic departments at the University of Minnesota. haskins was the worst of the worst as has been documented by the NCAA penalties. The stinking boosters who think all is ok over at William’s Arena now that time has passed NEED to be reminded from time to time just how BAD it was and WHY it was so bad. The ad at the University had best NEVER forget what that was all about and how BAD it was. He had better keep a tight rope on EVERY coach at the University to insure that cheating will NEVER again occur. Because no matter what sport…it will be “death-penalty-city” IF any funny stuff ever happens on that campus again.
You so-called boosters and fans need to face the facts and you need to NEVER forget. Winning means NOTHING if it is not honest.
wren
IMO, the Michigan nose dive is unexcuseable and RR should have won at least 7 games. He had tons of talent to work with and had recruiting classes that averaged a #9 ranking during 2004-08. Compare that to Gophers around #60. Losing to that club did not surprise me nor the whipping Iowa gave us. Heck, even Iowa classes average around #30 so the Gophers talent level was lacking in comparison.
I never expected much from BRewster his first two years. But in 09 we must be more competitive, even with the tougher schedule. Two DC’s in two years doesn’t cut it. And a change in OC. After all, Brewster proclaimed to have the best coaching staff in CFB when he was hired.
I am not pleased with the lack of stability of the staff that also reflects on the choices Brewster made when hired.
I too am disppointed with the last two games and the Michigan no-show. The youth on the O side can no longer be used a crutch. The 09 team will have the experience and we will see which 08 or 09 Brewster recruits will improve the talent level. Losing the last 5 games is not acceptable.
But lets not kid ourselves. The current talent is far, far from a Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, OSU or even at KU squad for that matter.
As long as Brewster shows steady improvements, I will hang with him.
EVER WONDER WHY THE U OF M CONTINUES TO PAY EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE ‘QUIT?’
Bud says:
January 9th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
poke the next thing you will post is that Cosegrove helped get the guy to commit. If Davis was recruiting the o-lineman for Alabama then Bama was in violation of the rules. Davis was an admistrator down at Bama and not even allowed on the field. He had nothing to do with recruiting.
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FAIL. Equae has been recruited from the beginning. Nice to see you again show you have no clue what is going on. Keep spewing out the lies, we’re all here laughing. LMAOR.
Why does “Dr Steve” sound exactly like Bud? Could BUd be using his quacks name as an additional sign on? I think so.
EVER WONDER WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THAT TIRESOME TALK ABOUT EXTENDING COACH WONDERFUL’S CONTRACT? IT KIND OF DISAPPEARED LIKE A VIRGIN ON PROM NIGHT AROUND NEW YEARS????
At the drop of a hat Maturi will extend Brewster. But he needs something, anything, some morsel of half good news. For more than two months now there has been no good news regarding football. We have lost five games in a row. We have fired one coach, pushed one coordinator aside at the waste of over $300,000 and had the other coordinator leave after one year.
Give Maturi a break!!! Even this idiot can not just extend Brewster without something that might be called progress, spun into “progress” or just tossed out there like road kill and called “progress”.
My prediction would be that once the next “greatest recruiting class in Gopher history” is announced, Brewster will be extended three years. The alternative would be to do nothing which would be the same as admitting that he is no longer sure about Brewster. What would that do to Maturi’s self image??
The extension to Maturi meant an extension to Brewster. I continue to see no value to any more changes until Maturi is gone. Brewster represents his values and Maturi would just hirer another Flim Flam man.
Mr. Dac,
Kirk Frentz was a head coach at Maine !
Again, name me a current head coach in
division 1 that either wasn’t a coordinator or a head coach at any
college level, Brew is the only one that
I can remember.The guy is not executive
material.
I don’t think off memory that Ohio State
has played a 1AA recently.Do you always
revert to name calling when your challenged ? Or, has the cold air altered your neuro-chemistry ?
Yes, always, no cold air or even hot air needed.
d_a_c is nothing but an empty vessel who resorts to calling others names. However, he is an impotent sort of name caller and he only makes himself look extremely empty, void and impotent as he resorts to his name-calling antics. He just doen’t quit have what it takes to get beyond his problems.
Bayfield,
With this brewster I have seen enough to have a very strong opinion that he is not going to survive. He says he has passion to recruit, but, I have not seen a passion coming from him that indicates to me that he is a coach. I call him a general manager. He wants to secure payers. He wants to hire coaches. He wants to do some pr stuff. But I have seen no indication coming from him that he instinctively wants to coach. I really don’t believe he has a vision for what he wants his team to be. I get the sense that he wants to hire a defensive coordinator who will provide direction for the defense. I get the sense that he wants to hire an offensive coordinator who can give him a vision of what kind of offense the team should play. I just don’t get the sense that the vision of the identity of this team comes from his concept, ideology belief system and experience level. Somehow, the defense is not complimented by the offense…the overall strategy isn’t interlocking and interwoven through out each and every aspect of the offense, defense and special teams. Things don’t look like they fit…enhance…provide a unified team vision.
He seems to say: “…I’ll hire a knock-out offensive coordinator…without really knowing what he wants his offensive coordinatro to bring specifically to the program. He will make the players he has fit what ever the new offensive coordinator will want to do. Didn’t we just go through that two years ago when that dunbar was everything that this brewster could have hoped for as the “father” of this brewster’s offense?
So, Bayfield: my campaign now is to rid the Gopher Football Program of this maturi character. He MUST go…and the sooner the better. This brewster will get more time…but…the day will come when this maturi will not be able to hang on any longer because of the lack of Big Ten Football wins by his coach. This maturi must NEVER be allowed to bring a new football coach into this program again.
Ditch this maturi NOW. Dump him. He will ruin football at the University of Minnesota before it ever gets a chance to benefit from the new stadium.
Dr. Steve says:
January 12th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Mr. Dac,
Kirk Frentz was a head coach at Maine !
Again, name me a current head coach in
division 1 that either wasn’t a coordinator or a head coach at any
college level, Brew is the only one that
I can remember.The guy is not executive
material.
I don’t think off memory that Ohio State
has played a 1AA recently.
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Did you look at last year’s schedule for Ohio State? Beanie Wells got hurt in week 1 against DI-AA Youngstown State.
And your original statement was name a coach that has been hired in DI or DI-AA that was hired without head coaching experience. I gave you Kirk Ferentz. He was hired at Maine with his only prior experience being an o-line coach.
Your statement is very leading to begin with. Some of the traits that make a coordinator successful transfer over to HC, but the skill set of a successful head coach is different than that of a coordinator. That is why so many coaches flame out despite being very succesful coordinators. Most coaches come up that pecking order but a HC needs to be the CEO of the organization and is responsible for recruiting, offense, defense, special teams, PR/media relations, providing academic support, and to some extent being a mentor. No coordinator has experience on every part of that so they hire people that do and keep everything organized. A recruiting coordinator focuses less on X’s and O’s and more on running the organization of recruiting and managing asst coaches that are responsible for certain areas which isn’t that different than what a head coach does.
Give Brewster some time to build his organization and then throw stones if he fails.
I still think Brewster could very well turn out fine as a coach, but Maturi is jumping the gun. I’d wait until after the 2009 season until deciding wether to extent Brewster’s contract or not. Recruiting is going fine this year and with 3 years left on Brewster’s contract you can wait one more year.
Do you guys think Mase might come back as offensive coordinator? He’s got a lot of coaching experience and was a OC at OSU. I think Mase might be the one Brewster is ready about to hire.
Mason?
That would certainly be an absolute killer shot! Right to the head. Brewster and Mason are like black and white, like mixing water and oil…….you get my drift. Mason would last about one day with Brewster.
Norm Chow! Mike Hoehensee? Now Mason? Whose next in your wild dreams Gold?
Just read that Salem is being considered. You are joking, right????
I have defended Brewster for the most part, BUT why do I have a that funny ‘Wacky Wacker’ feeling………..
I fear we are witnesing the Titanic about to hit, hope I’m wrong.
Maturi isn’t going anywhere Wren. Give it a rest. The hoops program has been rejuvenated thanks to the hiring of Tubby. That’s written in gold on Maturi’s resume.
But Maturi is also at the mercy of the Brewster hire. And how that will work out is too early to call.
I’m with Gold. The worst thing Maturi can do is extend Brewster. He needs to wait unil after the 09 season and then evaluate. You are correct that Brewster will get more time and has three more years with his gig. He isn’t going anywhere either.
Brewster was hired by Maturi/etc to do three things: improve PR, recruit and win big and often. For a rookie, he has done well with the first two, but I am on the fence whether he will be able to
accomplish the later.
In the meantime, his teams must show improvement every year and keep the program clean. But I will not be satisfied with a Mason-like record.
Wren
I am not concerned that Brewster is going away from 100% spread. I like that move and bringing in Davis. A lot of successful programs are mixing it up.
What concerns me is that he completely sold out to Dunbar and his Suzie Spread. Huge failure. Exit Dunbar and enter ?????? He hired Dunbar to be the OC not just to run the spread. Why hire someone with such limited ability?
The Dunbar hire went against the grain from day one as Brewster has always impressed me as a guy with a tough, hardnosed approach to the game. Yet he choose Dunbar and his playground approach to offense. The two were opposites.
Brewster needs to hire solid, experienced and well rounded football coaches and not specialists, such as Dunbar. A guy like Dunbar would never find a place on my best coaching staff in CFB. Yet the rookie CFB coach Brewster thought he would be a star in his top notch staff.
I hope Davis has a huge impact on the identity and success of the offense. I believe he and Brewster can be on the same page and “line em up” and “bring it” when we need to. I think down deep, that is what Brewster wants to see in his offense.
Gold–that’s a joke right(Mason)?? BTW, that is a good one too (joke that is).
THE ANSWER IN A QUESTION TO BAYFIELD’S QUANDRY:
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Brewster sold out 100% to Dunbars Susy Spread playground offense. He highlighted Dunbar as a main star in his cast of the best coaching staff in college football. The spread and Dunbar were highly touted and would resurrect Gopher football. But he and Brewster’s two star DC’s are now gone after two years. Now he has pledged to bring in a killer shot hire to help repair an ailing and weak offense.
I think its clear what type of D Brewster wants; tough, aggressive, make big plays, mix it up, have an attitude, etc. An image of Brewsters personality and philosophy of how football should be played. I think he and Roof were on the same page. But Dunbar and Brewster weren’t even in the same book. Now Brewster wants some thing different. After two years, Brewster finally wants an O like his D. Enter Coach Davis. And I agree with that 100%.
Brewster hired a guy who knew one thing; the spread. Dunbar was a specialist. Nothing more. A guy who was not confident in coaching offensive football.
In Brewsters revolving quest to establish an effective offense, we will now see another outstanding hire come in and share the work hand in hand with Coach Davis. I expect to see a well rounded and experienced football coach who is capable of implementing an effective offense; not just the spread. A football coach and not a specialist.
If this sounds a bit cynical, maybe so. I have not been impressed with Brewsters blotched attempts on the offense side. Brewster needs to get to the point where “his” team resembles “his” personality and philosophy when we have the ball. I believe Davis is a lot like Brewster. We need another.
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EVER WONDER WHY COACH WONDERFUL NEVER ADVANCED BEYOUND THE POSITION OF TE COACH, DESPITE SUCKING MAC BROWN’S ASS FOR OVER 20 YEARS??????
sorry for all the dumb posts, i am mentally retarded and forgot my medication last year.
I can see critics of mine are posting under gold04. It shows how much of an impact I’m making on people’s lives.
Patherhawk = Recruiting = Andy Rooney
When you talk about dumb posts, you are the leader of that.
gold04 says:
January 13th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Patherhawk = Recruiting = Andy Rooney
When you talk about dumb posts, you are the leader of that.
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Yup, recruiting has once again changed screen names. Kent- I thought you were going to crack down on this?
Dr. Steve says:
January 12th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
I don’t think off memory that Ohio State
has played a 1AA recently.
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You need some serious help there Dr Steve/Bud. tOSU has played Youngstown St more than once. Is it too much to ask you have a clue about the subject before you post?
EVER WONDER IF DEREK WILL GROW OUT OF BEING A WHINEY LITTLE BITCH?
EVER WONDER IF CLINT BREWSTER MIGHT BE OUR NEXT OC?
EVER WONDER IF OUR NEXT OC WILL BE LESS QUALIFIED THAN CLINT BREWSTER?
Andy, just say no to drugs.
Lets face it. Maturi bungled big time in hiring Brewster. I had no problem with the Mason firing but Joel said they would go after a big name coach with plenty of experience. Following the Brewster hire Joel was qouted in the strib saying, “quite frankly I had never heard of Tim Brewster before our search commitee found him.” Joel Maturi is the most incompetant AD in the NCAA.
If a football coach at Minnesota could go 10-3 and 9-4 at this place without the new stadium even on the drawing board, maybe the chance of getting someone who would do better was always very, very small?
But, what did I know compared to the deep thinkers? Now I get to share the fruits of your inexperience and emotional orgies over the failures of that coach. How nice.
Mason (punchline to numerous jokes nationwide) is the best we could ever hope for. How sad is that. Oh, but I’m sure the he could have taken us to Pasadena with the help of the league’s tiniest stadium.
bufflooon …. You said Tubby is doing much better coaching up the players from the previous coaching staff than Brewster is doing coaching up the players from the previous coaching staff.
Are you sure about that, buffloonatic?
Out of his 11-man rotation, Tubby only has three guys who played for the previous staff and one of them is his 11th man.
On the other hand, Whyne Renbawlblabbers has maintained that the best players on last year’s football team were all from the previous coaches’ team.
So that must mean Brewster did a great job of coaching them to play much better than they did for the previous staff, right?
Right Buffloonatic? ROTFLMAO!!!!
Hey, dont pick on Mason.
He made NDSU a rivalry for the ages.
Reality-Did I miss something? Are we going to start playing in Evanston, IL or Bloomington, IN?
This maturi is a stinking badger “plant” in Minneapolis. To anyone who has ever seen “The Manturian Candidate…” certainly the bad litte ranger has to be considered: “…the MACTURIAN CANDIDATE…”
Bayfield:IF maturi can pay a basketball coach over 2 million per…certainly he can find a way to pay a football coach with experience, ability and credibility at least that amount. Instead, he sticks us with this brewster.
This brewster and maturi are wasting too much time and too much good will. This brewster has failed. You people can pretend that you like it…but…I detest watching brewster ball. It is not a good thing. Losing to stinking iowa by a score of 55 to zero was about as low as it can get. Expect more of th same with brewster ball. This is NOT going to end well.
Beware the MACTURIAN CANDIDATE. This maturi has a “buckey red” background that needs to be eleminated from the U of M Maroon & Gold and the sooner the better. brewster ball and maturi have failed. Ditch this maturi. A new hire WILL have to be made in the football department sooner rather than later. This maturi must be gone before any new head fooball coach needsto be hired. A 5-7 season in 2009 will bring the unraveling of brewster ball much closer to the end than the beginning. Can maturi now!
andover joe: Mason may have made a rivalry with NDSU…but this horrible brewster was the fool that LOST to them. In fact, this brewster got his brains beaten in by NDSU. The MACTURIAN CANDIDATE…that madison-leaning ad who is baDGer down to his bucky-red background…is the guy who booked NDSU. Actually, that was probably one of the few good things that mactrui ever did. At least that series made some money! It filled the darn dome.
How about Ty Willingham?? Redemption can be a very strong motivator. I would think a lot of guys would like to play for him. I am disappointed Applewhite did not work out. This search process as it is playing out has me a little concerned.
EVER WONDER “WHICH WEEK” IT IS THAT KENNI & TIMMI KEEP REFERRING TO WHEN THEY SAY,”EARLY IN THE WEEK?” I KNOW I’M CONFUSED SINCE THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR NEARLY THREE WEEKS NOW.
EVER WONDER WHY THEY JUST DON’T COME OUT AND SAY “NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN THIS JOB” RATHER THAN ACT LIKE THEY ARE HOLDING THE GOOSE WHO LAID THE GOLDEN EGG AND THEY NEED TO BE OH SO CAREFUL WHO THEY SELL IT TO??
renegade:
Horrible? Seems excessive.
Breathe deeply.
Trust me, I was there, Mason also got his brains beaten in by NDSU.
he was saved that day by their program still having a D2 level kicker.
Our talent level for their first NDSU game was mason’s and mason’s alone, and if you are left to praise “filling the stadium,” then you really are misguided.
The simple fact on Mason was he went 10-3 playing in that “awful” dome. Then, the program seemed to drift….. Despite some “genius” insights, stadiums dont win games, programs do.
Mason became petulant after losing the OSU job, and almost seemed to dare the program to dump him (ie. his often odd public comments, and his horrendus program).
Fear not, in two years we will know where Brew is taking us, and either he flies or he is just the latest in a long list of losers.
Andy, you’re correct — you are confused. Drugs do tend to impart temporal displacement.
AJoe–amen.
Andover joe, two years? Why two, is that because you think Sammy is going to save Brews job? You are in love with NDSU and you always point to those two games. Well I was at both games also and I saw a good game in 2006 where the Gopher defense held a much better NDSU offense to FG’s and won the Game. In 2007 I saw a game where we looked like we had never seen a power and gave up 300 plus yards rushing and lost the game. Of course you would know this also because your other son Mike was playing for NDSU. Get out of the past and focus on what is happening right now Andover Joe. We are one and one against NDSU and we all know who the head coach was in both of those games.
Yes, let us go back to that tried and true method of improving the Gopher football program, let us hire a new coach, give him three years, extend his contract out to a total of seven years and then buy him out after he has failed us after four years. Then we bring in the next guy, move back to the dead bottom of the Big Ten and repeat again.
Excellent!!!
Perhaps we should decide before we hire the next guy exactly what are the really, really important requirements of the job. You know, really, really important things like humility, correct smile, no noticing drunken behavior, proper butt kissing of Minnesota weather, no interest in ever leaving for a so called better job, two or three really, really flattering bits of sucking up to the brain pool of Mn high school coaches per week, etc., etc., etc. You know, the really, really basic things regarding a football coach.
Once we get the basic things straight we could then set up a search group to go through the dozens of highly qualified, excellent coaches who would be lined up to apply for this job.
Oh yes, andover, we have just been really unlucky to have not found the coach who can meet our collective requirements for this job. Really, really unlucky. Good plan you have, how is it going so far?
Kent, the short list has been gone for quite some time now. MN has been offering the job and no one is taking it. Any coach that has a job would wonder just how much longer Brewster has when Cosgrove received a one year contract. This could be a ploy by Brewster to get his contract extended but I would say they are just going to have to settle for the best guy out there. If you are the coach coming in you have no idea what is expected of you and neither do we. You have a head coach that jumped into the middle of things during the season on a coordinator that most of you thought was a big time hire when Dunbar came to MN. And then fired his good friend who was coaching the o-line and hired a co run game coordinator with out telling the Offensive coordinator what he was doing. Now if you are on the outside looking in how would you perceive this. Who is going to be calling the shots and who’s name is going to be placed on the success or failure of the offense. Are you going to believe what Brewster tells you about the job or are you going to believe what has happened so far in the program? Actions speak louder than words and coaches unlike us can cut through the BS real fast and get to the facts of the matter.
Brewster has backed himself into a corner with the OC search. He has attached a lot of hype and hoopla that looks as if it will turn out to be a fizzle. The OC will be unknown and inexperienced.
I agree with most of Buds points. And I wonder if Brewster really knows what he is doing! It appears that his proclaimed best CFB coaching staff in the country has been reduced to something far less.
Think about it. What experienced, tested and successful OC would come here to work as a coco? Adding Davis has severly resticted Brewsters ability to follow through on his bold statements.
Now Davis may turn out to be the a great hire and get the OL to produce. But he has no OC experience and is a roadblock to getting a proven OC.
Brewster has said from the get go that he wants his coordinators to have control and call the shots. Finding one with the credo is proving to be a tough task.
Maybe Brewster will name himself.
Loon,
Mase never went 9-4. 10-3 was his best season the after that he had two 8 win seasons.
In the end MAYBE Brewster should have rode it out with Dunbar for one more year. With the offensive players on the team having another year of experience and Davis in the fold, I think the offense was going to be a lot better anyways.
I think Dunbar’s contract is hurting us in how much we can pay the new OC. Plus telling a potential OC that he has to work with Davis probably does not help out either. He would want to decide who he wants to work with himself.
Mike Hohensee is still out there. I’d give this guy a shot. I think he would be a risk worth taking.
Gold—Whatever happens here with this OC hire, this staff needs to stay intact. The longer this search stretches out, the more it has to hurt recruiting.
DO NOT place the blame on Davis. TD needed a job and he took it. The blame rest solely on the shoulders of Brewster. You can not and should not keep saying it is Davis fault. The head coach made that decision and it rest with him. It does not look good in the professional world when you are telling the public that Dunbar is your guy and behind his back we find out that the OC job had been offered to Chaney two weeks prior. I do not know about any of you but if I have a job and get approached by Brewster and offered a job I would think long and hard about the man. He is not an honest person in my opinion and I do not trust him period. Gold4 could you please stop bring up the previous staff. I know what you think about the other poster but let it go. It does not matter about 6/7/8 wins five years ago. It is 2009 and lets keep it in the here and now. Results are the only thing that matters and are we going to get our moneys worth in 2009? You are correct though with your offensive team work statement. You know that there is going to be change of some sort and that is not always good for the offense.
Bud,
I did not know my words were so explosvie. If I said the Gophers were 8-5 last year, there would be people who would correct me. Maybe they should not do that because 2008 is in the past.
Many times I’ve had to correct the Masonites who blow up stats to make things in his era look much better. I had to do that with you, Loon, Wren and others. So I’m not picking on one person, they need to be accurate in what they say.
I’m not blaming Davis, I’m just stating a fact. If I was a OC I would not want to come into a situation where I could not choose who my right hand man is.
Your right Bud about 2009, being the year we need to focus on. I think 2009 will determine Brewster’s fate. He will have a roster with the talent we haven’t seen here in a long time. It will be up to Brewster on how this team performs. If the Gophers do not do well in 2009, it can’t be blamed on talent, depth or experience. I hope Brewster does well but this year will show us if Brewster’s a dud or a stud.
Good bye maturi and good bye brewster. 2009 will at best be 5-7. MAYBE there will be one year after that, but it would be totally foolish to not buy both maturi and brewster out if I am correct and the 2009 season goes down as a 7-5 season. There will be a LOT of restless fans and sports writers who really start going after this maturi and this brewster IF the 2009 season disappoints. The heat is on. This mouth that is known as this brewster has already talked about having a killer hire for his oc. Perhaps he means that his hire will kill his career as a general manager/recruiter. He certainly is NO coach. He has proved that already. “RIP” killer oc hire… : 0(
Correction…make that a 5-7 season in 2009
ANDY ROONEY says:
January 13th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
EVER WONDER IF DEREK WILL GROW OUT OF BEING A WHINEY LITTLE BITCH?
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Poor little pigeon stuck in the big city without work. It’s going to be okay PH.
I see now that everyone ripped through “Dr Steve’s” BS, he is back to posting under his Bud screen name. LMAOR.
gold04 says:
January 14th, 2009 at 10:58 am
In the end MAYBE Brewster should have rode it out with Dunbar for one more year. With the offensive players on the team having another year of experience and Davis in the fold, I think the offense was going to be a lot better anyways.
I think Dunbar’s contract is hurting us in how much we can pay the new OC. Plus telling a potential OC that he has to work with Davis probably does not help out either. He would want to decide who he wants to work with himself.
Mike Hohensee is still out there. I’d give this guy a shot. I think he would be a risk worth taking.
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I was against it earlier, but with us not being able to land one of the top 4 prospects, I say it ma be time to discuss this with Hohensee. We need someone in the job soon.
I know the biggest arguement against Mike would be if he’s that good then why has he been coaching in arena football the last 14 years. It’s a valid arguement but I think this guy has potential to be very good. I’d take a risk on him then some of the other canidates people mentioned.
Wren,
I was wondering what did does Brewster need to do now since he ditched Dunbar as his OC. You wanted Dunbar gone, so what should be Brewster’s next step? Don’t say step down, it’s not going to happen.
I do agree with what Bud and Bayfeild had to stay about Brewster backing himself into a corner about the OC situation. Maybe we can get Jerry Burns as our OC.
me and my boys love to suckle and caress coach brews floppy man boobies.
So Bud, if you were going to hire someone and you had a list of potential candidates, many (most?) of whom you did not know personally, you would just run down the list in order offering each of them the job? Personally, I would want to talk to them first to see if they are a good fit. If they looked good I might even broach the subject of salary and contract terms. After I talked to a few of them I would then offer one of them a contract.
Interesting approach you have there Bud. I would never have thought to do it that way.
Texas Gopher says:
January 14th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Gold—Whatever happens here with this OC hire, this staff needs to stay intact. The longer this search stretches out, the more it has to hurt recruiting.
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Tex-The good news is that we haven’t lost any recruits, yet. We also managed to set up a visit this weekend for a RB prospect from St. Louis that was choosing between Minnesota & Alabama for his last visit. I haven’t heard much out of recruits even looking elsewhere. It appears as though the coordinator changes have been handled very well by the staff and they are communicating with recruits.
G—thanks for the 307 post. I like the sounds of anyone who has his choice narrowed down to the U and Alabama.
It is conceivable that because of the salary level involved there may be more hoops to jump through from the University side. For example, they may have to interview a certain number of applicants. But then again it has only been one week and one day.
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