Hello Hayo
Posted on July 21st, 2009 – 11:38 AMBy Kent Youngblood
Just a quick update on Hayo Carpenter, the highly-regarded junior college wide receiver. I blogged a while back about how people I was talking to said there shouldn’t be a problem with Carpenter qualifying academically for the upcoming semester.
Well, Carpenter arrived in the Twin Cities on Monday, has apparently cleared all hurdles and looks good to go when practice starts Aug. 10; coach Tim Brewster officially welcomed ”HC” to the Twin Cities with a tweet.
That’s about all. Enjoy the day.
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175 Responses to "Hello Hayo"
Welcome Hayo and thanks Kent for the update. He must be one explosive player to have all the haters out in full force.
Having two targets that are All-Americans and a much improved O-Line will go a long way in improving the durablity of the backfield. We were a good team last year, just very banged up in the second half. This is great news.
GO GOPHERS!!
Thanks for the update, Kent. I always look forward to your articles and news. Great observation, Rescooter. I just hope that we can come up with a running game. Looking at Rivals and Scout it appears as though there is not much help on the horizon except for Kirkwood.
Now the Gopher haters can move on to something new to attack. In life there are always new problems to deal with so, I am sure they can find something.
The difference between successful people and unsuccessful people is how they approach new problems. The successful people find way to solve problems, but the unsuccessful people prefer to complain and blame others.
Now if you were wren, the solution is a simple, just start typing “It is all about Big Ten wins.” Does this mean ignorance is bliss?
Kent - I forgot to thank you for this and all the other updates you have posted recently. Great job!
Its time we see a JUCO that makes an immediate and significant impact. Sure Brock, Lawrence and Simmons cracked the starting 11 but our D still sucked by years end. We need more like them whether it be JUCO’s, RS’s or even true frosh.
We must elevate the talent level at many positions. Being a returning starter doesn’t mean that player is the caliber of player we need to be more competitive. It just means he is the best we have. And we should expect better performance for the incumbents than in the past.
As newbies, Will Hayo and Will fit that category? And the same for second term JUCO’s like McKinley, Onwauchi, Sharpe, Pittman as well as transfers Carufel and Roysten? Are the 08 and any 09 Brewster recruits game ready??
This team has a ton of ? marks and is capable of a huge swing in production, good or bad. This will be a very, very interesting season.
Bayfield–no doubt there are a ton of question marks surrounding this upcoming season. The biggest, most significant, and crucial one of them all is the new OC. This guy is so young, inexperienced, no track record, I believe he could be the biggest risk I have ever seen a head coach take. I hope Coach Fisch turns out to be the next Bill Walsh offensive genius out there, but what a gamble to find out.
Bayfieldgopher - Your prognosis for the 2009 football season is the best and most accurate I have read on this site yet. As you stated succinctly, “This team has a ton of ? marks and is capable of a huge swing in production, good or bad. This will be a very, very interesting season.”
A lot of people are uncomfortable with uncertainty, but that what makes sports so interesting, enjoyable, and at times, frustrating. So if you need to make “demands” on what the season is going to bring, you are going to have a hard time appreciating the nuances of the coming season. If you can live with uncertainty and are willing to enjoy the experience, it could be a very, very interesting season.
CG says–If you can live with uncertainty and are willing to enjoy the experience, it could be a very, very interesting season.
You might want to save that and print it periodically. I think I will make it my mantra for this season. I like the fact “interesting” has no inherent positive or negative connotation.
If there aren’t a LOT of Big Ten wins in a season, those, “interesting nuiances…” can really suck any way. How many Big Ten wins will one more “All-American” recriver provide? And, how many “…All-American” receivers can there be each year, any way? A lot, I hope!
The entire idea about the number of Big Ten wins as being the true measure of the play by the players, the coaching by the coaches and amount of luck regarding staying away from injuries, etc. makes watching the Big Ten stadnings from week to week so very interesting. Then, there is always the schedule. Who do you play? Where do you play? When do you play them? It’s easy to look good against the weakest teams in the conference, hopefully! It will be how do you look against the OSU’s, PSU’s, MSU’s and iowa’s that will tell the story. Certainly, wins against Purdue, wisky, Illinois and NU shouldn’t be too tough…should they????? Not with all those “All-American” receivers, any way.
So, I let the number of Big Ten wins tell the story. Those numbers NEVER lie. Those numbers can’t be “spun…” Those numbers seperate the contenders and the pretenders. Those numbers represent the Big Ten FACTS OF LIFE.
Tex - Here is a toast to the charter members of “It could be a very, very interesting season” club.
CG—consider me in the club. You are absolutely correct when you say, “A lot of people are uncomfortable with uncertainty, but that what makes sports so interesting, enjoyable, and at times, frustrating.”
Tex and Curious …. You guys are just a few thousand years behind the times. The very ancient Chinese saying was, “May you live in interesting times.”
It usually meant something like “I hope you have nothing but trouble”. Let’s hope our interesting times with the 2009 Gophers is interesting in a very good way.
And yes, whynedawlbabblington, one more great receiver does help the team. Moron.
Thanks for the input! But are you sure that B10 wins are the most important thing?
Thanks for the input! But are you sure that B10 wins are the most important thing?
HE IS [NOT] IN YET…..IS [NOT]! NOTE USE OF THE WORDS ‘APPARENTLY’ AND ‘LOOKS.’ 4 EYES KENT IS TALKING OUT OF HIS REAR AGAIN….
d_a_c-ing-off, I think you may be going blind…There is a very large jump from the juco’s to Big Ten ball and there are a lot of things to learn. Hopefully, this receiver will be able to make that great leap in a couple of months. Time will tell. As with all things that are connected with fantasy football recruiting, the situation from the last level may or may not hold true at the new level.
How many Big Ten wins will one juco All-American get that Gophers? That is what I want to know. Maybe one? Maybe two? Maybe none? Sometimes it takes a little time. Sometimes more than a season. Sometimes some things get in the way. Sometimes things may go very well. Sometimes…sometimes…sometimes. That is the story of many fantasy recruiting ranking situations. Words like: maybe…possibly…hopefully…could be…with a little bit of luck…if everything plays out according to script…If all the pieces come together…barring injury…
I hope all goes well, but, remember d_a_c-ing-off dude or dudette, which ever your case may be, I’ve been watching Gopher football for a very long time. I remember a number of jucos who have come to this program. Nothing is set in stone. Nothing is guaranteed. And…perhaps most importantly, we shall see what we shall see…errrrrrr, that may not fit for you any longer though d_a_c-ing-off…you are such a chip off the old d_a_c-ing-off stereotype…you may not be able to see as well as you once did.
There has just been too much d_a_c-ing off done by you d_a_c-offs from gopherhole.com…
More mythology Bayfield. The D was much improved last year, it was the super duper, easty/westy spread O that was horrible. With zero running game (as predicted by me) and no offensive line we turned “three and out” into a defensive killer.
Now, with Brock and WVDS gone, we will need some other impact players to show up.
I have no idea what the kicking and O will be like for this season.
There are going to be some unhappy Gopher fans if we start the home BT history of TCF with a loss to the Badgers. Very unhappy.
It’s a wonderful day not to be wren (a.k.a. the Village Idiot or Mr. Unsuccessful). That’s because he believes that blogging, blogging, and even more blogging makes it real. He hasn’t quite figured out that in the scheme of things football is not all that important.
I suppose if you are a failure in life you will try anything to give meaning to your pathetic life.
david_allen_coe says:
July 21st, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Tex and Curious …. You guys are just a few thousand years behind the times. The very ancient Chinese saying was, “May you live in interesting times.”
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DAC - Thanks for the reminder. I have always found the Chinese culture and language very interesting. By using characters you can express things that you can’t in English. For example, chaos is expressed by using two characters, the one for danger and the one for opportunity. I guess you could apply that to the 2009 season.
Now, if you want to say idiot in Chinese you need only one character, a wren.
I won’t call giving up 37ppg in the last 5 games much improved. Maybe you liked that but I certainly didn’t. Same with the wussy Dunbar version of the Spread that yielded a meager 15 ppg during that same stretch.
I don’t believe I have seen a Gopher team in a such state of transition in a long, long time.
New kickers, new OC/DC/OL and the possibility of numerous fresh faces and new numbers to memorize. And add in a new stadium on top of everything else.
Why? We haven’t whopped on the Badgers for awhile so what’s the big deal? I think more important is how we show up in the first four games prior to Wisky.
The “Old Wren” used to say that each game is just .0833 of each season and not the whole season.
Bayfieldgopher - Could you please find the “Old Wren”. I think I would like him a lot better.
You would CG. I think a complete metamorphis has taken place. With one exception.
The Old Wren stood up for the current coach, took the season one game at a time, and often offered an interesting historical perspective on Gopher football. He was always critical of the Admin. but mainly for the lack of support of the program but nothing to this degree.
I have always enjoyed bantering to & fro with Wren but I now I find it necessary to weed out the “same of stuff” and fatalistic attitude which amounts to a great share of his posts.
Through all this, I still believe Wren is a true Gopher fan and a lot of the stuff he posts on this blog is just a way to pass time and have a bit of fun. Strange though.
Bayfieldgopher - I have to say that I am at a loss for words by your comments. I have always felt that you try to be fair and even handed when you post. This makes even harder for me to reconcile your comments with my experience. Maybe some day the “Old Wren” will return.
HAYO CARPENTER IS **NOT** YET ELIGIBLE TO PLAY COLLEGE FOOTBALL FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA. JESSE VENTURA IS ‘HERE’ TOO, AND LIKEWISE IS **NOT*** ELIGIBLE TO PLAY COLLEGE FOOTBALL FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA.
Bayfield, back when we had that old coaching staff, there was always the chance to win a ball game, even when you went into the Big House, Or went to East Lansing, Happy Valley or…shudder the thought…even into the Horseshoe. Yes, even during that 2006 season, with injuries and bad breaks and questionable calls taking games away, the Gophers did manage to keep it “one game at a time…” In that 2006 season the Gophers lost a heartbreaker to PSU in ot. They could have laid down and died, but, they oput it together and won one…two…three Big Ten games in succession including an exciting shoot out with iowa in the damn dome to finish the season. It WAS “one game at a time.”
Now, with this brewster, there is NO hope of a “one game at a time approach. That 2007 season that saw this brewster go 1-11 he could NOT pull anything together to get back in the ball game and he could NOT figure out a way to beg, borrow or steal a couple of wins. 2008 brought an incredibly weak schedule to him and he was 7-1 at one point in time. Then, the roof caved in and he could not manage to focus on that 1/8th of the Big Ten schedule. This brewster is not capable of pulling that off based upon what he has shown. The .125 of the big Ten schedule completely leaves him in a daze. He is not a coach. He fancies himself as a “gm/recruiter…” When he leaves Minnesota after the 2010 season has been completed, he will have never mastered the ability to break the season down into those .125 segments that represent the Big Ten season. And, make no mistake, it is those 8 .125 segments that define any and every Big Ten coach. This brewster is not a Big Ten coach…to say the least. The last coach we had was a Big Ten level coach. He was not successful here at Minnesota. So, he was bought out at the cost of millions and millions of dollars. This current coach never had a chance to be a Big Ten coach. He should have come in here as a “tight ends” coach, perhaps, although under this brewster character, the tight end position is pretty much a forgotten position. He should have NEVER been brought in here as a Big Ten head coach. He promptly turned it into a gm/recruiter position. In the Big Ten that will not work. Even the unsuccessful Big Ten coaches have the ability to stop a slid by managing to break the season down into one of those .125 segments.
Bayfield, these people who dwell on their fantasy recruiting rankings are living in a dream world. They are rude, crude and extremely viscious. I have answered their trash talk by coming back at them. I don’t care much for this younger breed of trash talkers. But, I will NEVER back down from them. I will say what I think. I think this brewster is over matched for this job. I think that he was a very bad, cheap hire. I think that once again the administraors have sold this football program short.
Assuming that we have a new coach in 20-11 or 2012, we will be once again starting all over. The novelty of the new stadium will have worn off somewhat. Without 3 seasons of having been at least competetive in the new stadium, the public in the state of Minnesota will be less than excited about Gopher Football. How long will we then have to give the new coach. Will the new coach also be an inexperienced low priced pawn? Maybe by the 2015 season the new coach can have “his players” so that they can play “his system.” So, maybe six or seven years from now there will be a chance for a 5 Big Ten win season. Maybe. And maybe by 2018, we’ll be looking for a new coach again.
What a prexy wants…a prexy gets Bayfield…just like Bob39 always used to say. You recall Bob39 don’t you? Does he still post any where? He pretty much knew what he was talking about when it came to the root of the cause of the majority of problems for the football program at the University of Minnesota. He always knowingly directed the problems back to the very top of the University of Minnesota. Beleive it or not, I used to argue with him about where the problems were…but…after I saw this prexy b go to any and all lengths to get this stadium…even the extension of the coach he workded for three years to get rid of and then the multi-million dollar buy out…and THEN the incredibly horrible hire…I KNEW that old Bob39 had been right all along: a prexy gets exactly what that prexy wants. It fits all the way back to Biermen’s demise…Murray’s sad exit…Stoll…the abandonment of MEMORIAL STADIUM…right on down the line. What the prexy wants the prexy gets.
This is NOT about this brewster character…not at all. We now have EXACTLY what this prexy b wants us to have. We deserve it because we put up with it. We know WHAT this prexy b thinks of the football program. He pays the hoops coach more than twice as much as he offers to attract a football coach. We are stuck with what prexy b wants. That is NOT good if you are a long-time football fan. But…we have put up with it. So, we deserve it…I guess… ; 0 (
Wren
Bob is posting at Gopher Illustrated. You should come back to that site.
Thanks. Please Greet Bob39 from me. I met him one time at a recruiting “SOCIAL”. He really is a great Gopher Fan and he has always said exactly what he thinks. I admire that very much! I enjoyed visiting with him at that recruiting social. We need a LOT more fans like Bob39. I’m really pleased to hear that he is posting!
Curious George, you sure have “a thing” about Wren. Why do you post about him all the time? What gives? Why the need?
Heck, I don’t like certain people on this site yet have no need to go on about them or make up things about them. I disagree with them from time to time but leave the “lifestyle” stuff out of it. They are just not that important to me.
Wren is a friend of mine and I can not imagine a person who has a much better life than his. He sure does not need to make up stuff about himself or others. Your need to have such a personal relationship with Wren is, to say the least, odd. This site is about Gopher football, not your views on Wren’s life.
Bayfield, I’m with Wren on this one. Under Coach Mason it was easy to enjoy Gopher football between games and during most games. We knew we had a chance in every game we played. Without the aid of TCF or much of a budget we won some great games, lost too many heart breakers and hoped the AD would eventually give the coach a new stadium that would help us recruit and have a better home atmosphere (to also help recruiting).
Now, we have crap. Injured to death, NU easily defeated us at home. Iowa killed us at HOME. The worse Michigan team in a generation came into our building and EASILY defeated us.
This coach had damn well better start defending TCF or I will want his sorry, ignorant butt out of here. He has SUCKED so far.
Wren.
I will repeat it again. Brewster needs more time. And you know that. I know there have been issues and I have many as well. But the guy is 6-7 weeks away from his third year as HC.
You used to support the current coach. So did I with Mason for 7 years when I had enough and realized we would never win big and often with Masonball. I want more than 3 BT wins a season and a trip to El Paso or some other minor bowl. I know you do as well.
You may be 100% correct about Brewster’s ability as a HC but then again you may be 100% wrong.
Babbling about 5 BT wins is a bunch of bunk and it makes you sound like a “whatever” that no one takes seriously! What if he gets 3 in 09 and then ends up with 6 or 7 in 2010?
You don’t know the future and neither do I. So enjoy the moment and the upcoming 09 and lets see what happens.
CG
Trust me on this one Curious George.
Loon: This coach had damn well better start defending TCF or I will want his sorry, ignorant butt out of here. He has SUCKED so far.
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Show me where I have not agreed with your statement.
Go ahead and fire Brewster Loon after three years. Then tell me which top CFB coach will answer the call unless he is paid mega$$$. According to you, there aren’t $$$ after Mason and Monson severance packages.
Here is the schedule for season ticket holders. It will be very exciting to be at TCF for the first time.
Gopher Game Day Preview - August 22, 2009
12:00 p.m. - Parking lots open for tailgating
1:00 p.m. - Gopher Victory Walk
1:00 p.m. - Stadium gates open for premium seat holders
1:30 p.m. - All gates open
3:00 p.m. - Maroon and Gold scrimmage
Bayfieldgopher - Thanks for your posts.
Good football coaches like the sound of $$$$$ and guaranteed $$$$$ a great deal Bayfield. IF their phones ring, they listen. They make sure that their current employer hears that their phone has been ringing. They let their current employer know what the new $$$$$ figure is that it will take to keep them, or they are gone. Barry alvarez talked to everyone…even the Packers one time.
Ferentz’s name used to come up with different pro jobs. Why do you think he is the highest paid state employee in iowa????? Why the heck doesn’t iowa state just pony up the $$$$$ and finally get themselves a coach?????
This prexy b is going to need to come up with the $$$$$…IF he is still prexy a couple of years from now. If not, the new perxy b will be forced to come up with big $$$$$ to protect the stadium investment.
It’s going to take big $$$$$, because the vikings will be playing in the Gopher’s stadium while the state and 7 county metro area will be building a new billion plus stadium for the vikings on the spot of the damn dome. The wilfster will be doing a big time development job around the site. The prexy at the U of M is going to be forced to finally bring in a football coach who can win a LOT of Big Ten football games…or…at least be competetive enough to beat a few of the Big Three from time to time just so that the paying season ticket holder stiffs that prexy’s at the U of M have been taking for granted for so long will continue to be fools enough to keep buying season tickets.
The word will be out: it is hard as hell to win football games if you are the coach of the University of Minnesota Football Program. It will be ESSENTIAL for the prexy to pay at least as much to the football coach as he is willing to pay for the hoops coach. At LEAST as much…maybe even a LOT more. (Ferentz is getting 3 million plus bonus for specified goals. Why the heck won’t the University of Minnesota offer at least 3 million a year for a guaranteed 7 year contract to attract a coach who is capable of being competetive in Big Ten play????? Just because Minnesota FINALLY is getting an on campus stadium WHY would this prexy b think the fans should be satisfied with a totally inexperienced, no name gm/recruiter????? This prexy b is out of touch. He should visit them down in iowa city to see what they are paying a border battle foe coach. “…show them the money…” prexy b. You had millions to buy out a contract a few years ago. You wiffed. You screwed up. You messed up big time with the hire prexy b. What are you going to do now???? Let this brewster go unextended another month…another football season…another couple of years the way you did with the previous coach before you extended him big time? How the heck is that going to look prexy b? What will the other Big Ten coaches do with THAT picture during recruiting periods? Or, are you REALLY going to extend some gm/recruiter who has accomplsihed nothing? You have GOT to be kidding me prexy b. Sorry buddy, good old prexy b…but…you are screwed. You are damned if you do and damned if you don’t. You just flat out made a BAD hire. Prexy’s who mess up big time need to just go away prexy b. Either extend this brewster or fire him. That is the ONLY course of action that you can take that has any honor…any chance of success…makes any kind of sense.
Take a look around you prexy b. A lot of Big Ten schools are extending their football coaches so that they can recruit and function. Of course, as we all know, prexy b, you really don’t give a rip about the football program. You are paying your hoops coach a LOT more than you are willing to pay someone to run the football program. DO something prexy b. Don’t just sit there…; 0 )
Wren and Loon are right, we had a chance in EVERY game we played.
2006
California 42-17
Wisconsin 48-12
OSU 44-0
It did not take a rocket scientist to figure out that we didn’t have a chance at all heading into those 2006 games.
You guys are the ones that said we had a chance in EVERY game not me. These games were in Masons 10th season no less.
For cripe’s sake curious georgeerrrrgoldohfour Mason was given millions and millions of dollars.That was another obvious case of this prexy b’s incompetence. He had run the former coache’s contract down to nothing at the end of 2005 then the idiot extended Mason and then spent millions buying him out ONLY to hire a no name, inexperienced used car salesman to run the football program. (sorry, I really don’t mean to give used car salesmen bad names…; 0 )….)
However, Mason did manage to close out the season with 3 straight Big Ten wins. At least he didn’t lay down and die and get his head bashed in by a 55 to 0 score by that stinking 3 million dollar man from iowa.
Blame it on this foolish prexy b’s management style.
Wren,
Iowa beating us 55-0 has nothing to do with what I said. I’m not a Masonite or Brewsterite.
Wren,
You and LOON are the ones who said we had a chance with Mase in every game we played. Don’t blame that on the administration, Maturi, or Brunicks. The only one to blame is yourself, and Loon a guy you would never DARE to disagree with!
You are a prexyite???
No, make that a silly little monkeyite.
Actually, Mason beat some teams that Minnesota never has a chance agaisnt: OSU, Michigan, PSU, MSU, Alabama, Arkansas, Oregon….oh heck yes…it was nice to beat some of those teams!
Wren,
YOU always get desperate when you shoot yourself in the mouth and start resorting to calling people names. Wren it is not very hard at all to run circles around you.
You certainly are always running around in circles curious gold… ; 0 )
Wren,
Now your getting desperate. Have you ever had the courage to disagree with Loon before?
Mason without TCF is better than Brewster with TCF. This year will show that unless I am really surprised by the new coaches.
So why did we build TCF? I thought it was suppose to help us win games? Will it? With Brewster?
Show me.
Your experiment with my football program has been a total failure so far. The evidence thus far shows a program worse than what we had even without the huge lift the building of the stadium was to give us.
Won’t be able to replace Brewster? Hell, I told YOU and all the other deep thinkers that if you kicked Mason out of here for failing to win big here without TCF you would get NOBODY to replace him. And, you did.
My “educated guess” is that after the Badger game it is going to dawn on a lot of Gopher fans that we are going to be just where I said we would be five years ago when you “thinkers” said that most anyone could do better than Mason. I have no clue where we go next unless a Tubby Smith type football coach falls out of the sky. As near as I can figure, “we be scuppered!”
Maturi will have to go, then we will have to go out on to the market, cap in hand, and try to find an AD with an IQ over 110. How that guy will get a coach to come here when we fired a series of NC winners and “Coach of the Year” types, I have ZERO idea?
You guys have made a HUGE mess. Thanks.
So gold, you made a lot of money betting against the Mason teams? No you did not. Nobody wanted to play us in those days because we brought no support, produced no hype and you damn well knew you could lose the game.
Now, we be hot! Everyone wants a shot at our “beat a Big Ten team” without any risk, coach.
Let me know how much you want to bet on the Cal game. How about the game at NU? Badgers at TCF with the Badger Band cavorting all over the field and in the stands. Or really, how about at Iowa?
I don’t ever, ever bet on college games, but for a big talker like you, I could certainly make an exception!
Come on brave guy, “this is your year”!
Wren,
I still think the Masonites are jumping the gun too early on Brewster.
Last year before the season started the Masonites were all saying that Brewster could not beat Eden Prairie High School. I told you guys that you were jumping the gun way too early. No Masonite thought we’d make it to a bowl game.
Then the Gophers win 7 games and you guys back track that the schedule was so easy when you knew it was that way before the season started. You guys need to be careful about what you say.
This year I think we could very well see some significant wins. A good point that hurts Mase when it comes to significatnt wins was that he never beat a team that ended up the year ranked in the top 25.
I think you guys are jumping the gun way too early again this year. You could be right but you could be wrong like last year.
Now I’ve Loral and Hardy both coming out swinging!
Loon,
I don’t bet. I think betting is ruining sports as a whole. It’s a bad way to invest your money.
Loon,
I have said it many times that I could be wrong about this season (10 wins). I said that about last season too (8 wins). Except no one points out that I missed that prediction by one game because many people didn’t think we could beat Eden Prairie High School before last season started.
10 games is bold for this year and I might be way off but time will only tell.
Ra’Shede Hageman - check on that name Kent. He is another one of Brew Crew recruits that is in trouble. Kent, do some actual reporting here as well instead of just posting what Brez wants and find out who the tutor is this summer and the NCAA violations being done by the Brew Crew.
Loon says: Mason without TCF is better than Brewster with TCF. This year will show that unless I am really surprised by the new coaches.
So why did we build TCF? I thought it was suppose to help us win games? Will it? With Brewster?
Show me.
Can the team play at least one game in the new stadium before you determine if it will help?
Might it help. long term? Or are you only concerend with 2009?
The contract was very, very clear at the Senate hearings: A new, on campus, stadium would help the Gophers become a better program.
As of right now we are clearly a worse program, 3-13 over the past two years. Nothing revolutionary here at all, time for the Brewster experiment to start to show real progress on the Big Ten front.
Loon: Your experiment with my football program has been a total failure so far.
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“My football” program! The conceited Canuck is once again crying about the departure of his idol.
I know you have always been ecstatic with 3 BT wins and a chance to a minor bowl game by whipping on the sisters of the poor type teams. In your world that was great stuff.
Me? I want more, plain and simple. And so do a vast majority of Gopher fans. I want to root for a Gopher team that can be in the hunt for a BT title the last game in November. A contender instead of a pretender. We never saw that in 10 years of Masonball. And then to claim he was rebuilding the program in year 10. You can have that failed program.
Some of us would like to see what happens in 09 before dropping the axe.
BTW, Maturi never called me to get my approval of hiring Brewster. Did he contact you prior to ridding ourselves of Mason?
I’m sure you can sell your tickets to a Wisky fan for a nice price. Why go and witness that expected debacle? Save yourself the agony due to your “educated guess”.
gold 04,
I don’t know who these Masonites are you keep talking about are, I made zero predictions last year other than the obvious comment that anyone would be better than Withers.
This year, I predict (again) that anyone would be better than Dunbar. (Remember, we are paying him $300,000 again this year. We practically have a whole staff of former coaches still being paid.)
“But, only time will tell. We might win ten games, we might lose 10 games.”
How’s that for predicting?!? “We might win or lose any number of games.”
Bayfield, if a guy can win five BT games here without TCF, how many should we be certain he would win with TCF?
Correct answer: More than Brewster is showing.
You have helped move us seriously backwards.
I will be at the Badger game cheering for what is left of my program from before the kickoff until after the game. A win will be great!
A loss will provide you deep thinkers with a clear snap shot of what you have done.
Goon flatulates:
“You have helped move us seriously backwards.”
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LOL! That is the most ridiculous thing I have read on the internet in a long time.
The people that continually move this program backward are the so called “fans” who make it their life goal to tear down the coach/program/student-athletes/administration/real fans. I would be content having you sell your tickets to a Badger fan. At least we know where they stand.
We’ve already lost to Wisconsin? I thought the game was being played in October?
Bayfieldgopher - All one needs to do is read the posts from 9:31 pm on yesterday to understand what is going on at this site. Truly the inmates are running the asylum.
You always try to remain calm and respond in rational way when things get crazy here. What is your response to the latest temper tantrums that took place?
Wren,
Your War and Peace length e-mails are the same today as they were months ago, you are a looooser………Loon, whatever, don’t you guys evey say anything new?
Very good breakdown of the team today on College Football News (.com).
No Loon. No matter what you say, we all know that you want the Gophers to lose and Brewsterball to fail. There is now way you can cheer for a team that you want to see its coach fail. You are so superficial, phony and two-faced.
You are the last person in the world I would choose to watch my back.
G58: Thanks for the link. A good read.
HAYO CARPENTER IS **NOT** YET ELIGIBLE TO PLAY COLLEGE FOOTBALL FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA. JESSE VENTURA IS ‘HERE’ TOO, AND LIKEWISE IS ***NOT*** ELIGIBLE TO PLAY COLLEGE FOOTBALL FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA.
Loon says : “Bayfield, if a guy can win five BT games here without TCF, how many should we be certain he would win with TCF?”
How many times did Mase do it in 10 years, albeit without the stadium?
Are you saying Mase would have won 5 a year with the stadium?
Bayfield in right on target with you, as you dont want Brew to win games. You despise the guy.
LET ME BE PERFECTLY CLEAR-I AM A DOUCHE BAG!
The way I see it, this remains a case of the prexy always getting what the prexy wants. He was not willing to pay to attract an experienced and credible coach for the football program. He continues to pay outlandish “buy out” salaries for coaches as obscure as that dunbar character, Mason, Monson, and osibly more. He is now spending far more on coaches buyouts and current salaries than ever before. What a waste. He is getting exactly what he wants to get and he is doing exactly what he wants to do to the football program.
Are you people satisfied with that? I’m not. You can take what he wants you to have. I am not happy about it. I won’t be a blind desciple of this prexy b fiasco. You people can do what ever you want…you can be a fool for this ancient, long of tooth prexy who has been a foot soldier for so many of the other prexys who have mismanaged the football program…abandoned MEMORIAL STADIUM and forced out former NC winners here at Minnesota.
In my book, it is time to stand up and tell this prexy b that he has done a horrible job with the football program even though he finally decided that there should be a stadium on campus. His failure to offer as much $$$$$ to attract a football coach to replace the one he bought out will haunt him to his grave…or should I say would haunt him to his grave…IF he gave a damn about the football program. It is obvious that he does NOT give a damn about the fotball program. ou people can blindly go along and just wait until the administrators replace this current coach…probably once again with an inadequate football coach. These people just don’t give a damn about the football program.
As for me, I’m going to take the administration to task. No, anything I say will not make a difference…but…since I can see it, I will at least say something about it.
And, Big Ten wins are the only way to judge the status of the University of Minnesota football program…the ONLY way.
Gold04 says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:22 am
Ra’Shede Hageman - check on that name Kent. He is another one of Brew Crew recruits that is in trouble. Kent, do some actual reporting here as well instead of just posting what Brez wants and find out who the tutor is this summer and the NCAA violations being done by the Brew Crew.
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Care to elaborate? I assure you, Brunicks is being pushed to end this nonsense. Any info you can provide will be helpful and appreciated.
Why are you apologists so afraid of the total number of Big Ten wins? What else could possibly show us the state of Golden Gopher Football?
Perhaps the total number of Big Ten wins will show that it did not make one bit of difference that this prexy b was willing to offer more than double for the hoops coach what he was willing to pay for the football coach. Perhaps he paid too much for the hoops coach if the football program gets a higher percentage of Big Ten wins from the football program than the men’s hoops program gets. If that is the case you can call this prexy b a genius in squeezing value out for the football program, but a moron for being so wasteful in offering compensation for the men’s hoops program. Or, perhaps it really doesn’t matter one bit? Or, perhaps it matters a great deal? Or, perhaps psychologically it sends a horrible message out that this prexy b cares more than twice as much about the hoops program that has caused the U of M SO much trouble in the past than he does for the football program? I don’t know what the Big Ten wins will tell us in that regard for both football and basketball. However, I do know what the implied message is. Perhaps by counting the percentage of the Big Ten schedule in which wins are achieved per million dollars of salary paid we can come to a better conclusion and understanding of which coach is doing the better job.”how many Big Ten wins…what percentage of a Big Ten schedule for an academic year…” will 1,000,000 of salary get you at the University of Minnesota for the 2009/2010 academci year?
Perhaps we should throw Lucia in just for the heck of it too. Hockey is the one sport at the U where the expectations should be OFF the charts EVERY year. Just because of the mother-load of talent available in the state of Minnesota, the cost per win should be MUCH less than for hoops and football. ; 0 )
What do the following players have in common?
James Laurinaitis, Archie Griffin, Ron Dayne, Lawrence Maroney, Barry Sanders, Tim Tebow, John Elway, Vince Young, Earl Campbell, Deon Sanders, Archie Manning, Shon Green, Lawrence Taylor, Tony Dorsett, Bo Jackson, Curtis Painter, Matt Leinart, Rod Woodson, Terrell Pryor, Reggie Bush, Walter Payton and thousands of other great college football players.
Answer: According to this wrenbabbles methmonkey they were all fantasy recruits. None of them had played a down of college football before arriving on campus. Therefore they were all shittt and garbage with zero chance to ever help their team, according to this wrenbabblemethmonkey.
And how many got hurt, didn’t succeed academically, left early, got in trouble, never achieved their potential, just kind of faded away? No, not the list you just presented but PLENTY. Never count on anything, because it may not materialize you d_a_c-ing-off mut-faced d_a_c-ing-off jerk or jerkette, which ever the case may be. You represent this brewster and this brewster is much like you…if not you. Now get out there and win some damn Big Ten football games in 2009! Do something you d_a_c-ing-off dude or dudette mouth…
At College Football News there is an article on the Gopher football team 2009 season. It included a two deep roster which I compared to the roster on the GopherHole. There are some differences between how the two rosters were put together but I tried to match them up as best as I could. As you can see, some of the players are not listed at the same position on the two rosters. I will add the defense comparison later.
Offense
QB
CFN
Adam Weber
MarQueis Gray
GH
Adam Weber
MarQueis Gray
RB
CFN
DeLeon Eskeridge
Kevin Whaley
GH
Duane Bennett
DeLeon Eskeridge
FB
CFN
Jon Hoese
GH
Jon Hoese
WR
CFN
Brodrick Smith
Da’Jon McKnight
GH
Brandon Green
Da’Jon McKnight
WR
CFN
Eric Decker
Brandon Green
GH
Eric Decker
Ben Kuznia
or Xzavian Brandon
TE
CFN
Nick Tow Arnett
Curtis Hughes
GH
Nick Tow Arnett
Erik Lair
LT
CFN
Matt Stommes
Ryan Ruckdashel
GH
Matt Stommes
Ryan Wynn
LG
CFN
Don Alford
D.J. Burris
GH
Don Alford
Chris Bunders
C
CFN
Ryan Wynn
Trey Davis
GH
Trey Davis
D.J Burris
RG
CFN
Matt Carufel
Ned Travale
GH
Matt Carufel
Ryan Orton
RT
CFN
Jeff Willis
Ryan Orton
GH
Jeff Willis
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Curious George says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:29 am
At College Football News there is an article on the Gopher football team 2009 season. It included a two deep roster which I compared to the roster on the GopherHole. There are some differences between how the two rosters were put together but I tried to match them up as best as I could. As you can see, some of the players are not listed at the same position on the two rosters. I will add the defense comparison later.
Offense
QB
CFN
Adam Weber
MarQueis Gray
GH
Adam Weber
MarQueis Gray
RB
CFN
DeLeon Eskeridge
Kevin Whaley
GH
Duane Bennett
DeLeon Eskeridge
FB
CFN
Jon Hoese
GH
Jon Hoese
WR
CFN
Brodrick Smith
Da’Jon McKnight
GH
Brandon Green
Da’Jon McKnight
WR
CFN
Eric Decker
Brandon Green
GH
Eric Decker
Ben Kuznia
or Xzavian Brandon
TE
CFN
Nick Tow Arnett
Curtis Hughes
GH
Nick Tow Arnett
Erik Lair
LT
CFN
Matt Stommes
Ryan Ruckdashel
GH
Matt Stommes
Ryan Wynn
LG
CFN
Don Alford
D.J. Burris
GH
Don Alford
Chris Bunders
C
CFN
Ryan Wynn
Trey Davis
GH
Trey Davis
D.J Burris
RG
CFN
Matt Carufel
Ned Travale
GH
Matt Carufel
Ryan Orton
RT
CFN
Jeff Willis
Ryan Orton
GH
Jeff Willis
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Good Lord, man, find a job.
Loon,
Are you Masons lover? Sorry dude, for every big win he had two huge losses. I have listed before, no need to repeat like a Wren.
Mason has a well established record of Gopher teams imploding and you know it. If you don’t you have no cred at all. Wren, again dummy, I am not an apologist, I am a football fan. Go away you moron.
buzz off you d_a-c-ing-off pock faced jerk. Yep…that’s just what you need to do creep. If you are going to talk that way d_a_c-ing-off fool, don’t talk at all. Yep…don’t talk at all…
; 0 )
Mr.MBA—back off CG—I like that CG will do some reference work for us. I look forward to the 2-deep defensive roster comparisons. Go take your MBA somewhere else where someone might be impressed with it.
Wren, I think Big 10 wins should be one of the measurements for the state of the program.
Other key measurements should include graduating kids, winning ooc games, and winning bowl games.
Mase accomplished some of the key measurements. He won some big games.
He also lost some very, very winnable games. I am not sure what his overall conf record was - anyone?
Let me add - winning ooc games against some BCS teams and going to and winning major bowls games, at least every few years.
This SF wrenbawlbabblingdrunkenmethmonkey says,
“Of all the tens of thousands of recruits who played college football, only the 21 you mentioned ever ammounted to anything. All the rest got hurt, didn’t succeed academically, left early, got in trouble, never achieved their potential, just kind of faded away and became useless drunks like me.”
Carlson MBA says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:31 am
“Good Lord, man, find a job.”
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I am retired accept for two clients that ask me to do financial analysis on a fairly regular basis.
I must admit that it did take some time to do the post but with cutting and pasting it wasn’t too bad. The reason I did it though, was to see if we get the discussion back to football instead of the religious fever that overtakes this site.
I do have one question for you and I hope you don’t take it as a criticism. It is question I wish somebody would have asked me when I was younger. The question is why do you use the moniker Carlson MBA? It has always strikes me as portentous and arrogant when people drop names. I relize that may not be your intent but people may see it that way.
After graduating from a prestigious MBA school I found out that people were turned off by my name dropping. I realized this and stopped doing it. I am only saying this as something you may want to think about.
Hayo is here? But, but, but Bud’s clients said he’d never step foot in Minnesota??? How could this be?
Hayo is supposedly the speed guy we need, and with all the loser Pigeons and BADgers flaming here, its obvious they aren’t happy about it.
anti hole says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:15 am
So why did we build TCF? I thought it was suppose to help us win games?
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$$$$$$ fool. Now go back and see what wren wants you to say next. PS, clean off your chin.
Texas Gopher says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:53 am
Mr.MBA—back off CG—I like that CG will do some reference work for us. I look forward to the 2-deep defensive roster comparisons. Go take your MBA somewhere else where someone might be impressed with it.
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The twit doesn’t have an MBA from any college. He’s lucky if Phoenix allows him online. The guy thinks cutting and pasting takes more than a minute. LMAO.
I like how his other sign in writes in all caps….
This SF wrenbawlbabblingmethmonkey says, “Brewster should not waste another minute recruiting. He must only play the guys who were here when he took over the program. He should play those leftover players at least the next 12 years.”
And then the SF old drunk says, “Brewster must graduate ever more players and he should graduate them in three years.”
Good logic, SF drunk.
Curious … Not sure how much faith we should have in the two-deep projections of a website that doesn’t know Broderick Smith is gone and Hayo Carpenter is here. Apparently they are also unaware Duane Bennett is the No. 1 RB going into camp.
Blog: Weber Takes Part In Manning Academy
Courtesy: University of Minnesota 07/21/2009
Golden Gopher quarterback Adam Weber has wanted to attend the Manning Passing Academy for a number of years now. Thanks to the connections of his new offensive coordinator Jedd Fisch, Weber recently served as a counselor at the Academy, run by Archie, Eli, Peyton and Cooper Manning.
Weber said the opportunity to serve as a counselor to 900 top high school football players and be around the Manning family was a “great opportunity.”
The Gopher signal-caller was one of 25 NCAA Division I quarterbacks serving as counselors at the camp, including Texas’ Colt McCoy, Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford and Oklahoma State’s Zac Robinson. He said one of the most valuable sessions at the MPA was during a break from camp when the Manning brothers invited all the collegiate players to an open forum. The college players were encouraged to ask Peyton or Eli any question they wanted
“One of the biggest questions I had for them was about how they prepare,” Weber said. “When they look at tape, how much time do they put in. How do they know when they’ve done enough. Peyton’s answer was interesting. He’s a perfectionist. He watches as much tape of himself as he does of the opponent. Even wtih Peyton Manning’s credentials, he still strives for perfection.
“It just shows that if you want to be the best at any level, you have to put in a lot of time and effort,” Weber continued.
Minnesota’s captain and starting QB said the drills he was teaching high school kids became a learning session for him as well.
“One day, we were working on three-step drops and Eli spent almost the whole practice working with my group,” Weber said. “Peyton did the same thing in another practice, spending about half the practice working with my group. It was awesome to watch them work with guys and be able to pick up pointers from them.”
Weber enjoyed meeting players from other areas of the country at the Manning Passing Academy. He roomed with Alabama quarterback Greg McElroy and mentioned that Purdue QB Joey Elliott was the only other Big Ten student-athlete at the camp.
“It was really neat being around those guys from the Big 12 and SEC,” Weber said. “There weren’t a lot of guys from up north at the camp, so it was fun to socialize with the other guys. There are only so many people in the country who are going through what we are, being Division I quarterbacks. It was good to talk about our experiences and pick each other’s brains a little bit.”
The Manning Passing Academy was held July 9-12 at Nicholls State University in Thibodeaux, La. As it tends to be in on the bayou in July, it was hot and humid during the camp. Weber said the experience was great, but he wasn’t unhappy about returning to Minnesota’s weather.
“I think I was drenched in sweat the whole time I was there,” Weber said. “I’m not made for that kind of weather. I’m more of a cold-weather guy, I guess.”
-Andy Seeley
This was a magnificent opportunity for Weber. I expect we will see some significant results this fall.
Just being included with 24 other top college quarterbacks will do wonders for Weber’s confidence. Mentoring and teaching high school kids makes a college quarterback think hard about his own techniques. And working under Peyton and Eli is an unbelievable learning experience.
For some of you who have been wringing your hands over Jedd Fisch, here is an early benefit to his addition to the staff. His connections got Weber invited to the Manning camp.
I expect Fisch to be a dynamic offensive coordinator who brings a lot of freshness and enthusiasm to the team.
Hey Greg, name the big Brewster wins? Indeed, name the big Brewster losses? Now that we are back to being the tenth place football program in the Big Ten, we are so bad under Brewster that we no longer play big games at all. We just suck.
Do I want us to suck? No, but we do. Brewster and the coordinators he hand picked are so bad at their jobs that we have simply become non competitive in the Big Ten.
Do I hate this coach and love another? Nope, don’t know any of these guys past meeting Mason once at the Senate hearings on TCF.
What I hate is crap football. Gotten a ton of that over the past two seasons. Pure crap. Were we better at the end of year two? Nope, the SINGLE worse defeat in our very long history as a founding member of the Big Ten. To Iowa. At home.
The thing you guys hate, HATE about Big Ten wins and loses is that they factually show where we are. Under Maturi/Brewster we SUCK.
I hope we are better than that this year. The replacements for Dunbar will be jumping over a mighty low bar to exceed the standard he set over the past two years. Indeed, that bar is on the ground.
Roof is gone, I thought he was terrific at his job. I had no idea what the D was going to do on any play last year.
Sorry, but my mantra this year will be “GO Gophers! Win games and dump Maturi!!”
Now Greg, name the big games we have had under Brewster?! (We are 0-6 in trophy games.)
Derek,
Perhaps you should read the posts. If you actually read them, you will not make as much of a fool of yourself as you just did.
Genius, Derek. Pure Genius.
Yes Loon, Brew has not won much yet.
I do remember having Michigan, a trophy game, in the Dome, at Home, on a Friday evening, down BIG TIME.
Mase found a way to lose it. Yes, lose it.
So dont say how much worse Brew is, at least at this point.
david_allen_coe says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:59 am
Curious … Not sure how much faith we should have in the two-deep projections of a website that doesn’t know Broderick Smith is gone and Hayo Carpenter is here. Apparently they are also unaware Duane Bennett is the No. 1 RB going into camp.
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As I stated in a later post, I just wanted to post something about football. It seems to me most of the posts recently has been of a religious nature. As far as I can tell, the fanatics want to argue that the Church of Mason is the only true Church and that Brewster is the devil reincarnated. According to wren, loon, and bud, if you don’t believe this, you are going to hell. I am not one for getting caught of in dogma, but I willing to go hell as long as wren, loon, and bud are not there.
But I digress. What I am curious about is the difference in the starting center. The College Football News has Ryan Wynn starting and the GopherHole has Trey Davis. Do you have any insight into who is likely to be the starter? I really don’t have much knowledge as to what their strengths and weaknesses are.
Hey Mr. Confused (Loon),
It’s been two years, you don’t even make sense.
Mason beat OS and Michigan exactly one time each in 10 YEARS.
So what is your point Skippy?
Anti-Exactly right, that Michigan game was program defining, OOPS, the team imploded then quit, just like they did against TT. Mason was hardley a great coach, he was an average coach, nothing more.
Just to be ‘Wren like’,
BTW, if you go back to the Mason interview after the TT game he said something to the effect of “the coaching staff could tell the players at halftime thought they had won and the game was over…”
I thought at the time (this was before he was fired), “really dumb ass, then why didn’t you do somehting about it?????” I flew to that game (live in San Jose), never been more emberrassed to wear a teams gear……………they were completely bitch slapped in the 2nd half and gave up (as they had done many times before) that, my friend, is poor coaching.
Gregory58 - You are now officially excommunicated from the Church of Mason, you heretic.
Curious …. I certainly was not criticizing the fact you tried to put something related to football on the board. On the contrary, I applaud that.
I was just making the point that a national publication is not going to have intimate knowledge of a middle-of-the-pack type team. They are looking more at the USCs and Floridas. I think this is evident when they list Broderick Smith as a likely starter and don’t list Hayo or Bennett at all.
I doubt if anyone knows who the starting center will be right now. That is one of the real battles shaping up for fall practice.
There are several of those battles on both the offensive and defensive lines and that is nothing but good news for us. All good teams have enough depth for real competition for starting jobs.
Greg …. How in the world can you suggest giving up 500 points and two million yards in the 4th quarter of a bowl game was poor coaching? Poor old Mase just didn’t any breaks from the refs and his wife packed him a sour sandwhich. Nothing more than that.
DAC - I knew you were not being critical but just making a point about the source. I totally agreed with your comment.
I was just hoping that the posting would generate some useful or interesting comments, which it didn’t. I am going to post the defensive comparison tomorrow. It probably won’t be worth that much but maybe something will come out of it.
Curious George…You mentioned you were looking for insight for who is likely to be the starting center. It will not be either of the two mentioned in your CFN listing.
Clair … Nor will it be Dusty Springfield. There, now we all know as much as you do.
They are looking more at the USCs and Floridas. I think this is evident when they list Broderick Smith as a likely starter and don’t list Hayo or Bennett at all.
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Hayo is not yet eligible, Spock.
From early last week:
Hayo Carpenter: The call could come as early as tomorrow, or as late as next week…..
Hayo is still not qualified or practicing.
“Good to go?”
Hey genius troll … Eric Decker and Adam Weber are not practicing either. Practice doesn’t start until August 10, moron.
Greg, the only time I have ever been ashamed of wearing my Gopher gear was after the two BB scandals. The gear represents the U, not the teams who play here. If those teams disgrace the U, that is bad.
Your memory of the TT game quotes is selective. Mason said we ran a gimmick D in the first half and hoped they would not figure it out for the second half. They did and without Banks we were unable to stop them. Without Spaeth our O was too limited as well.
Now, as you know very well, we can’t play at all with a good team. There are no gimmicks from this coaching staff at all. Just pansy assed one yard passes.
If Mason was average at best, what is Brewster? Stay tuned, deep thinker.
Hey deep thinker! Instead of running off with your mouthy keyboard look at the records. They are both 3-13 in the BT. Whoopee! And Brewster has been to a bowl game, like it or not,
3-13 was good enough for you with Mason around all of a sudden its crap!
Crap is claiming to want the team to win but would like to see its coach fired.
I think everybody on this site needs to take a “time out” and listen to the “Barney” song.
Seriously - go back and read the article on Traye Simmons that was linked to in the 10:03am post. At the bottom of the article, the writer lists the top returning cornerbacks in the B10, and Simmons and Marcus Sherels were both in the top 6.
Question - when was the last time the Gophs could say they had (potentially) two of the top 6 cornerbacks in the B10?
Answer - don’t have an f’ing clue…but I’m very hopeful the D will be able to produce more turnovers this year, and give the ball back to the O in good field position.
As to everything else, here’s a suggestion - instead of arguing the Mason vs. Brewster routine, how about something less controversial, like politics or religion. I used to work with a guy who told me that I was going to hell because I voted for Bill Clinton. I’d rather listen to him all day then read more of these posts with people insulting each other over Mason and Brewster.
In case it has escaped anyone’s attention: Glen Mason is NOT coaching the Gophers. He is NOT coming back. You have one choice - support Brewster, or not. If you hate Brewster so much, then don’t watch the games, don’t listen to them on the radio, and don’t post here. Maybe you could find something else to do with your time, like move to Iowa City and help raise bail money for half the Hawkeye roster.
End of rant.
david_allen_coe says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Hey genius troll … Eric Decker and Adam Weber are not practicing either. Practice doesn’t start until August 10, moron.
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So you are saying your FB team is just sitting on its ass all day, reading comics and eating candy?? No wonder you can’t win shit! lol Down in Iowa City, the boys are busy lifting weights, running bleachers, looking at film and having uncoached captains practices. All of these activities are unavailible to those who have not qualified and enrolled in school….unless the coach is a cheater.
Question - when was the last time the Gophs could say they had (potentially) two of the top 6 cornerbacks in the B10?
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WTF does this mean, captain assjack? Are you saying the goofers have 2 of the top 6?????????? LMFAOR!
Hey Norway guy, when Murray Warmath got kicked out, who was left? Me.
When Cal Stoll was kicked out, who was left? Me.
When Joe Salem was kicked out, who was left? Me.
When our first big talker Lou Holz walked on us, who was left? Me.
When Gutekunst was kicked out, who was left? Me again.
When we brought in our next big talker, Jim Wacker, who was left when he was given the boot? Good old me.
Mason was hired and bought out for a fortune by any standard. Left in the dust once again? Me.
Now I don’t know when the deep thinkers will buy out Brewster and if Maturi is still around I won’t care when Brew is dumped or who takes his place, but I know that if I’m alive I’ll still be here to pick up the crap that is left. Again.
So stow away your BS about how I owe this coach. ALL the coaches here owe ME. Me and all the thousands of fans who have ALWAYS been left in the dust while the deep thinkers try to run a cheap football program so they can pay for Women’s Rowing.
This is OUR program and if it is being run as a dumb ass program I will speak out ten times a day if I want. 3-13 is crap AND a horrible start for such a big talker who took over a 7-9 program in the two years before he arrived. If 7-9 was UNACCPTABE, what makes 3-13 anything but crap?
So far, YOU guys are the problem by knocking us down to 55-0 vs IOWA at HOME! You should be:
1. Embarrassed by what you have done to our program just as we are finally getting TCF.
2. You should shut your mouth and keys rather than trying to excuse what you have created.
We suck, and as a fan of 42 years I hate being such a crap football program.
(God bless our players, but they sure have not gotten from Brewster what he promised to date.) “Best college coaches in the nation”, my butt!
Go Gophers and save Brewster’s/Maturi’s jobs!
Bayfield, I will wait another week or so to post my summation of where we were when Mason took over and where we were when Brewster took over. The record speaks clearly for itself and I thank you once again for asking for this clarification.
Needless to say, I will keep that comparison up to date as the season develops. Hint, hint, it could get very ugly.
Loon: STFU. You did get one thing right, you, of all people, are not a deep thinker. If you could possibly see the glass you could make an assessment if it’s half empty or half full. I’m sick of your frickin’ pessimism. You’re judging way to early. You’ve already predicted a loss to Wisconsin and we haven’t even played the frickin’ game yet. When all is said and done this year we can assess what kind of coach Brewster et al. are. As of now anyone with a lick of common sense knows the jury is still out. There’s as much to be excited about as there is to be nervous about. This year is a huge question mark as to how it’s going to go, but I for one am rooting for these Gophers and it is my hope that Coach Brew can put the pieces together and make us a good competitive team. We’ve got some good talent.
You’re putting the cart before the horse. You need to get some sense knocked into you.
Shorty, maybe your short term memory is gone but we had 3 drafted corners on the same team at the same time. J. Wyrick, M. Lehan, and W. Middlebrooks. I would take those three guys over what we are playing with right now anyday. Whoever is ranking the best corners in the conference has not taken the time to watch much film. You are correct in that Mason is gone and not coming back. I think that the individuals on this site can not get over the fact that A. they wanted Mason gone and it does not look much better under Brewster or B. Brewster came in with a handful of statements that made everyone think that we were going to the next level and that did not happen. All those that wanted Mason gone then proceded to tear the job that Mason did apart and blame the past coaching staff for all the wrongs of todays team.
D A Coe
“we all know as much as you do “? Really ?
Then why will Wynn be sitting out this season ?
Hog moron …. The word ‘practice’ has a meaning, you SF farm hick. Practice starts August 10. Wake up, backwoods methboy.
Gopher Clairvoyant says:
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:11 pm
D A Coe
“we all know as much as you do “? Really ?
Then why will Wynn be sitting out this season ?
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He is gay and pregnant?
Shorty - Just remember when you go to bed tonight wren, loon, and Bud will still be crazy tomorrow but you can get up and enjoy a wren/loon/bud free day.
These guys can’t because there full of hate and anger.
Shorty - Just remember when you go to bed tonight wren, loon, and Bud will still be crazy tomorrow but you can get up and enjoy a wren/loon/bud free day.
These guys can’t because they are full of hate and anger.
And this curious george, the silly monkey with the d_a_c-ing-off, d_a_c-off gopherhole-based friend wearing the yellow hat over his make-believe hole in his head story to try to cover it up, will get incredibly angry when the mention of expectations for LOTS of Big Ten wins in the 2009 season remains on the table.
However, the review of the number of Big Ten wins vs. Big Ten losses WILL remain on the table!
These brewster apologists want NO part of talk about expectations for Big Ten wins. They want to talk fantasy football recruiting and they want to put down what the failed, fired and bought out former coach did do better than what this bbrewster character has done. They want to defend the incompetent administrators who are merely part of the LONG LINE of administrators who have failed and trashed the University of Minnesota Football Program.
IF you want to see the Gopher Football Program being competetive in Big Ten play you will NOT try to run from the facts of Big Ten Football reality. The ONE and ONLY true indicator of the health of a Big Ten football program is the number of Big Ten wins, combined with the running of a completely honest and above board football progracoupled with ever increasing numbers of student-athlete graduates participating in the football program.
The numbers of Big Ten wins vs the numbers of Big Ten losses deals with EVERY aspect of the football part of Big Ten Football. It is flawless indetermining which teams are doing the best jobs of recruiting, coaching players up, game day planning, conditioning and executing week in and week out during the Big Ten Football Year. It is the ULTIMATE final exam for Big Ten Football Programs. It says it all. It takes ALL aspects of Big Ten Football into consideration. It specifically ranks the programs. There can be no arguing about the results. 8 games against other programs in the Big Ten Conference will be played by each of the 11 programs within the Big Ten Conference. It is the way things have been evaluated ever since the very humble beginnings of this great football confeence. You can check the official record books to review the outcomes over the many, many decades that Big Ten Football has been in existence.
And you brewster apologists whine about this standard? This comparison of our football program vs. all of the rest of the football programs in the Big Ten conference IS what the Big Ten Football Season is ALL about. It is why they keep records. It is why they keep score. It is why they recruit. It is why they coach the players they recruit. It is why they make game plans. It is why they condition their student athlete football players.
The single goal of EVERY Big Ten Football Program is to manage to win every Big Ten Football Game that they can win during the current football season.
Each and every Big Ten football win is a treasure and is to be honored and valued. These wins are NOT easy to come by. These wins must be earned. Therer is NO such thing as a bad Big Ten football win. All Big Ten losses hurt.
The number of Big Ten wisn vs Big Ten losses ultimately determines the fate of Big Ten Football Coaches, gm/recruiters. Typically, gm/recruiters do not hold many positive records of positive achievement UNLESS they are ALSO Big Ten COACHES who can coach their players up, game plan andgame-day coach.
There are NO official Big Ten Records kept of the rankings of each program for fantasy high school football ranking stars per recruiting class per recruiting year.
There are NO official Big Ten records kept crowinging any gm/recruiters “twittering” champion for any given Big Ten Football Season.
The final totals of Big Ten wins vs Big Ten losses will be compiled again during the 2009 Big Ten Football Season. What will it tell us Gopher Fans. It will simply tell us “what” our football program is. “…We ARE…what we ARE…” We can rank ourselves against all fo the other Big Ten Football Programs based upon our record of Big Ten wins vs. Big Ten losses. The number of Big Ten wins will tell us where we are, what we are and how we are in relationship to all of the other Big Ten Football Programs in 2009.
And, many of you brewster apologists don’t want to have any expectations for the number of Big Ten wins this brewster will achieve in 2009?????
Ditch maturi…put the pressure on this prexy b. A prexy always get what a prexy wants…or…it is time for that prexy to step aside!
Loon,
Guess you were watching another game dummy, the team was ill prepared to play the 2nd half and gave up. I said I was embarrassed, not ashamed, get it right. Would you like to review other games as well? He had a bunch of them. Explain the two Michigan collapses, the blow outs in HUGE games? He had a well established pattern, and that is poor coaching.
My point is, idiot, you (and your lover Wren) accuse everyone of apologizing for Brewster when the majority of the folks here are saying this is the year we see the direction. I gave Brewster a pass as he was a rookie in big time coaching and took over a mess, the pass ends this year, he has no excuse. How is that being an apologist???? You’re the one re-writing history and worshipping a coach, not me.
Regardless, I’m done with you and the nut job, excited for the season, will now concentrate on football, not morons.
Good point Greogory. Here’s my plan and thoughts during Brewsters first 3 years.
2007 - Predicted 4 wins and I put 0 games as least amount of wins. It didn’t take a rocket scientist to realize we’d be horrible.
2008 - Predicted 8 wins and said we should at least win 6 games
2009 - Predictied 10 wins and said we should win at least 8 games. If the Gophers follow this pattern then this year we are equalling Masons best seasons when Mason played much EASIER competition.
I could be way off about my prediction, but it’s time for Brewster to step up to the plate big time in 2009. I hope he does but time will only tell.
I am sorry to interrupt wrens, loons, and bud’s anger therapy session with a football posting. Sometimes we need a break from all their childish nonsense.
At College Football News there is an article on the Gopher football team’s 2009 season. It included a two deep roster which I compared to the roster on the GopherHole. Yesterday I posted the offense and today I am comparing the defense. There are some differences between how the two rosters were put together but I tried to match them up as best as I could. There are only two differences between the two lists. Both are for the second team and are as follows:
College Football News lists the second team defensive end as Derrick Onwuachi and the GopherHole lists D.L. White.
College Football News lists the second team Middle linebacker as Gary Tinsley and the GopherHole lists Sam Maresh.
The only thing we can probably say for sure about the lists is that the opening game two deep will be different. It should be fun to see which players develop between now and then and which don’t. I hope we can have that discussion. It appears though that wren, loon, and bud are getting crazy by the day so it may be difficult.
Defense
DE
CFN
Anthony Jacobs
Derrick Onwuachi
GH
Anthony Jacobs
D.L. White
DT
CFN
Eric Small
Jewhan Edwards
GH
Eric Small
Jewhan Edwards
DT
CFN
Garrett Brown
Brandon Kirksey
GH
Garrett Brown
Brandon Kirksey
DE
CFN
Cedric McKinley
Barrett Moen
GH
Cedric McKinley
Barrett Moen
SLB
CFN
Simoni Lawrence
Keanon Cooper
GH
Simoni Lawrence
Keanon Cooper
MLB
CFN
Lee Campbell
Gary Tinsley
GH
Lee Campbell
Sam Maresh
WLB
CFN
Nate Triplett
Spencer Reeves
GH
Nate Triplett
Spencer Reeves
CB
CFN
Traye Simmons
Ryan Collado
GH
Traye Simmons
Ryan Collado
S
CFN
Kim Royston
Mike Rallis
GH
Mike Rallis
Kim Royston
S
CFN
Kyle Theret
Tim Dandridge
GH
Kyle Theret
Tim Dandridge
CB
CFN
Marcus Sherels
Johnny Johnson
GH
Marcus Sherels
Michael McKelton
gregor59, you foul-mouthed, low-rent, stinking brewball-apologist with d_a_c-ing-off tenencies: you are an idiot and dummy AND a moron who walks on the wild side looking for d_a_c-offs and others with d_a_cing-off traits. Now that we have that straight, let’s just say the watching brewsterball has not been an easy thing to do. Listening to brwsterspeak has not been an easy thing to do. People like you deserve brewsterball and brewsterspeak. You are dismissed now jerk.
This brewster is merely the face of prexy b’s HUGE blunder of a hire to replace the former bought-out coach…you do recall the chain of events that created that prexy b multi-million dollar financial fiasco and that entire snafu created by this prexy b don’t ou????? When it comes to making hires, this prexy b really sucks.
Thanks Curious George!! That was very interesting. Our D-Line will be bigger, stronger, faster and (most importantly), experienced! I’m looking forward to seeing some depth. Our guys just wore out last year….not from a lack of conditioning, but from either playing hurt or tired.
By the way…just the mention of anything football will put you in the “Brewster Apologists” club.
curiousgold: you predicted 12 wins for the first two seasons and this brewster had 8. You suck on making predictions. You are predicting 10 wins for 2009: so IF this brewster wins all four ooc games, he will have to win 6 Big Ten games to win 10 games in the regular 12 game season…You still suck with that prediction. Sorry curious gold. That’s the way I see it.
7 wins over all would mean that this brewster would NOT meet my expectations. I EXPECT him to win 3 ooc games out of four and five Big Ten games out of 8. What I pedict would be 3 ooc wins and 3 Big Ten wins for a total of 6-6 regular season.
I hope you can come back and tell me I suck on my predictions…because that would mean a decent season. However, I won[t hold my breath for that to happen. In fact, I may be too kind in my predictions.
However, my expectations are that this brewster will need to win at least 5 Big Ten games to have a successful season.
You apologists always manage to bring something about Mason into the discussion…SO…in his third season, Mason had 5 Big Ten wins. If this brewster doesn’t match that he really sucks because we KNOW what happened to Mason. Of course, he did take away ALL those millions of dollars that the foolish and incompetent prexy b FORCED him to take…
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Mason was no moron. He proclaimed the program was in a rebuilding phase after ten years. Brewster took it over and is still in the process.
The Masonites whimper that Brewster’s record is just 3-13 but its right on par with Mason’s first two years which, of course, was acceptable.
What they won’t admit is Mason would have been fired after the 07 season anyway as that team was very short on talent as he admitted and the weak 05, 06 recruiting classes manifested themselves. After all he was once Coach of the Year and also a top candidate as HC at OSU, Georgia(?) so who should know better than he? Of course his litle disciples would never admit to that.
Bud lists the talent at CB. He is correct as Wyrick, Middlebrooks & Linehan, plus Jack Brewer played in the NFL as did many on the 99 roster, Mason had far better talent to work with across the board than what Brewster has had the past two years. Anyone with football savy and who has watched the games can see that. Of course they will never admit that but like they said on Dragnet, just the fact’s ma’am.
Greg58 is correct stating that Brewster “took over a mess, the pass ends this year and has no excuse.”
So, obviously Bayfield: this brewster MUST win at least 5 Big Ten games in his 3rd year, right Mr. Gruff?????
This brewster is going to get totally dissed as the season moves along and he starts losing too many Big Ten games. He can lose three Big Ten games…and then the kidd gloves come off. You have made the comparison of the former coach and this brewster-clown. So, that is how we shall view this 2009 season. We will hve to check off the possibilities game by game. Big Ten games will tell the story here. FIVE Big Ten wins or BUST!!!!!
And it all goes on this prexy b’s head. What a prexy wants…a prexy gets.
This maturi needs to either EXTEND this gm/recruiter brewster-clown or BUY OUT the remaining time on his contract. The clock is ticking…winding down toward two years remaining. The administration destroyed recruitng for 2003, 2004 and 2005 by letting the former coache’s contract wind down to nothingness before extending him JUST before signing day in 2006 (the end of December in 2005). Is that their incredibly foolish pattern?????
This brewster has never had any “excuse” any way. He has always been totally transparent. He has always been over-matched. He was a horrible hire. That goes on this prexy b. Remember, a prexy always gets EXACTLY what a prexy wants…OR…is willing to want.
Wren,
I’m sorry, I have my moron filter active so I can’t read your posts……..
Tell you what, let me know if you ever come to San Jose, I’ll give you the name of my sports bar and you tell me what you have to say in person.
Best Regards,
G58
f’n right you f’n f-er ; 0 )
Gregory58 says:
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:57 am
Wren,
I’m sorry, I have my moron filter active so I can’t read your posts……..
Tell you what, let me know if you ever come to San Jose, I’ll give you the name of my sports bar and you tell me what you have to say in person.
Best Regards,
G58
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i’ll beat you down like the bitch you are little guy.
wren says:
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:12 am
gregor59, you foul-mouthed, low-rent, stinking brewball-apologist with d_a_c-ing-off tenencies: you are an idiot and dummy AND a moron who walks on the wild side looking for d_a_c-offs and others with d_a_cing-off traits. Now that we have that straight, let’s just say the watching brewsterball has not been an easy thing to do. Listening to brwsterspeak has not been an easy thing to do. People like you deserve brewsterball and brewsterspeak. You are dismissed now jerk.
This brewster is merely the face of prexy b’s HUGE blunder of a hire to replace the former bought-out coach…you do recall the chain of events that created that prexy b multi-million dollar financial fiasco and that entire snafu created by this prexy b don’t ou????? When it comes to making hires, this prexy b really sucks.
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If any of you still have any doubt as to whether wren has gone over the edge and is now completely crazy, just read the above.
I normally avoid wren’s postings, but I decide to read his 7:12 posting after reading G58’s comment to wren. As you can tell, wren’s mind is now totally fried. I suggest all of you follow G58’s advice and activate your moron filter.
any a you punks want a piece of me and my Gaffer Posse you just come straight the f’k on! Me and my boyz are getting crewed up as we speek.
Listen, moron: you sanjose morons bar-brats can talk like that, but, I’ll sue the heck out of you and own what little you have left in life. Talk is cheap but law suits are NOT greggy-weggy-sanjose-tough typer… ; 0 )
OUI Greggi, tell’em to come to your sports bar on drag queen nite and i’ll hit em with my big pink gucci purse
I don’t care what you cowards do or say about me, but you do NOT screw around mocking the Veterans that I served with. How many of you creeps had had the courage to serve your country like we did?????
Sure, just try to pay a lack of respect to United States Military Veterans. I know exactly what you cowards are like.
curiously: I just fed back to the greg character what he has stated in his post. It’s really quits simple: you fools will get back what you dish out. I will use your words to mock you!
Rescooter says:
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:19 am
“By the way…just the mention of anything football will put you in the “Brewster Apologists” club.”
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Rescooter - I learned that when I posted something critical about wren’s posting techniques. He immediately called me a “Brewster Apologists”, even though I had never posting anything about Brewster. “Brewster Apologists” is his code for I don’t like what you are posting because it doesn’t fit my sick agenda.
Having wren posting on this site is like having a village idiot. We know he is there but nobody takes him serious. The only question is when will he implode? He seems to be getting closer each day.
wren says:
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:23 am
I don’t care what you cowards do or say about me, but you do NOT screw around mocking the Veterans that I served with. How many of you creeps had had the courage to serve your country like we did?????
Sure, just try to pay a lack of respect to United States Military Veterans. I know exactly what you cowards are like.
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What combat zone did you serve in, jesse? The USO? I’ll take you down to China town you posser vet wanna-be! Remmington Raider more like…
G58 - The 8:20 posting wasn’t my but I expect you realized that.
“Big Mac” doesn’t exactly look like Navy Seal material now, does he? Was he on perm. KP? Did you call him “Big Mac” because he could down 20 Big Macs in an hour?
wren - You need to check into a V.A. hospital why there is still time.
Curious George says:
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:48 am
G58 - The 8:20 posting wasn’t my but I expect you realized that.
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Its ok, georgi, my wife is going to out us anyway…..
Curious George says:
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:50 am
wren - You need to check into a V.A. hospital why there is still time.
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They kicked me out for drinking from all the bed pans on my ward. Plus, they said the VA is for real vets like Marines.
The bottom line is how many Big Ten games will this brewster clown win in 2009????? That’s the only thing that matters.
I know you and Loon will do a great job of keeping score during the course of the year. That is just fine as, being a Dragnet fan, I just like the facts, ma’am.
Mr Gruff? Geez Wren that one hurts!!!
While you are at it, please keep track of the number of 09 roster players for me that get drafted and/or played in the NFL or CFL. I will be providing you the facts for the 99 team, a squad led by many quality players brought to Minnesota by the departed Coach Wacker. That way you can devote your full attention in your quest for 5 BT wins.
i may not have a pot to pee in now, but I am going to be rich when i finish sueing all of you dirty tricksters!
How many Big Ten wins (or lack of wins) will it take to make…(or break) this brewster-clown in the 2009 season?????
And, you Veteran bashers should be really proud of yourselves…NOT. May the next war be your war and may you all be drafted into one of the four fine branches of our Military Services. That’s right…there ARE four branches and unless our goverrment is totally wacked out, they are ALL vital and ALL a part of this nation’s defense system.
So, try to make the Marine Corps look incredibly bad gregor58 or what ever, but,you are dissing the United States Marine Corps, the Army, the Navy and the Air Force just by being you.
I don’t think this brewster-clown is going to make it. What branch did he serve in? Maybe he can re-up?
After my 7:10 am posting there were approximately 25 more postings. Maybe one of them had something to do with the 2009 season. The other 24 evolved around dealing with wren’s insanity. No wonder he was kicked off the GopherHole.
It is a shame that he requires so much attention, but when you are attention seeking child, that is what happens.
He is a perpetual Section 8 discharge.
Bayfield, I guess the former coaching staff coached up those Wacker recruits from the 1999 team! And, I think in his last couple of recruiting class that Wacker did recruit some fine STUDENT ATHLETES. That is when the upgrade finally started happening in academics. Mason continued the upward trend of graduating players. Will this brewball gm/recruiter keep that uptrend going? Can he coach young players up and make them Big Ten football players from raw recruits???
How much does it hurt a coach to have to work on less than four years remaining on his contract. Mason found that out, thanks to this prexy b and maturi. It looks as though this brewster is finding that out too. In the past few weeks NU, iowa, and Illinois have either extended their coaches or have indicated that they are ready to extend. It’s a big deal Bayfield. Our “crack” prexy/ad combo have proved that they like to let the clock tick on down to nothing ness, then extend and then waste millions buying a coach out that they were trying to get rid of.
Since this brewster hasn’t been extended…does that mean that the administration wants to get rid of him????? It’s certainly starting to look that way. I’d say this prexy b is damned if he does extend and damned if he doesn’t extend this brewster clown right now!
I’m one of the few people posting on this site who actually care enough about this brewster-clown to actually tell him that he NEEDS to win at least five Big Ten games in 2009 to keep up with the failed, bought out former coach so that this brewster-clown can build a future for himself as a gm/recruiter at the University of Minensota.
Just to show I really do care about this brewster-clown’s future, I will add that he NEEDS to learn to coach-up the players that he does recruit.
The rest of you just apologize for him or try to blame all of his problems on the former, failed, bought out coach who did manage to beat teams like Arkansas, Oregon, Alabama outside the Big Ten and Michigan, MSU, OSU, PSU in the Big Ten.
Good luck gm/recruiter, brewster-clown. I have told you what you need to do…now…”…just DO it…”
I’s sure Mason did a fine job developing those players. But the talent has to be there Wren and it was.
My point is, at least at this time, the talent level is not close to what was on the 99 team when we won 5 BT games. I have said this B4 but that team under achieved with a Sr. QB and a long list of NFL players.
Other than Decker, who will be drafted and/or play in the NFL on this team? I know its too early to know that, but I will be surprised if anyone else makes it. IMO, Simmons was over rated, was not consistent but had 3 or 4 huge games. Lawrence? Campbell? I hope there are a few thay make it otherwise this could be a long season.
Where are all these ***** and **** recruits that this brewster-clown has supposedly brought in. He has had almost 3, 2 and 1 seasons to work with the existing talent, and the stars he has brought in. THAT is his failure…he does NOT develope the players he has. Now Weber is needing to deal with the 3rd offensive system he has had to learn during his time at the U of M and he is only in his junior year competition wise. The defenders have their 4th defensive system in the last four years if they have been in the program for 4 years. THAT is all on this brewster-clown’s head.
But, I don’t blame this brewster. I blame this prexy b and maturi for their horrible hire and for the way that they care at least twice as much about the hoops program than the football program. Damn the administrators! Ditch them all… ; 0 )
Nice try guys. I have NOT predicted the Gophers will lose their game to the Badgers this year.
I HAVE predicted that Gophers fans in very large numbers will really hate losing that game even more so than has been the case the last couple of years. Losing that game will not float and will not be accepted as any part of any “just part of a rebuilding process”.
If there is such a thing as a must win game for Maturi/whatshisname, that game will do it.
Go Gophers!!
Loon: Why would you write “I HAVE predicted that Gopher fans in very large numbers will really hate losing that game even more so than has been the case the last couple of years.” if you don’t think that they are going to lose to Wisconsin. And it’s not the first, second or third time you’ve written that? Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.
It’s official - the Gopher FB program belongs to Loon. It is his program. As he stated, All the coaches OWE him. We are all just lucky that he allows us to attend the games, watch on TV or listen to the radio.
One question - is the new stadium large enough to hold your over-inflated sense of self-importance?
You sir, are ONE FAN - ONE OF MANY. You have no exclusive claim to being a better, or more imporant fan than anyone else.
I try not to be personal on these posts, but if there’s one thing that really sets me off, it’s self-important bozos who think they are the center of the universe. I figured out a long time ago that I’m a very small piece of the puzzle in a very big universe.
And Loon - since you run the team, I have decided that everything that happens to the team is YOUR FAULT. Every loss is on you - after all, it’s your team.
C George,
Yes I realized that was not you, nor were the last couple of G58’s me, I did post the moron filter however.
Thanks, let’s talk football from now on, got to work, talk to everyone after a couple of practices are in.
Take care.
G58
Wren - You need to understand that those 25 postings I referred to are about you, not Brewster. It is also clear from those 25 postings and your past behavior that you suffer from narcissism. If you don’t know what that means read the definition below:
nar⋅cis⋅sism
–noun
1. inordinate fascination with oneself; excessive self-love; vanity.
2. Psychoanalysis. erotic gratification derived from admiration of one’s own physical or mental attributes, being a normal condition at the infantile level of personality development.
One of the problems with your narcistic behavior on this site is that you don’t allow others to have a normal conversation. That is because you are focused on the self and not the community. As Pogo, the great Buddhist philosopher once said “We have met the enemy and it is us.”
Shorty - Do you think the above posting also applies to loon?
S.O.N.: well said. Personally it’s his cloudy outlook on life that gets me.
CG–thanks for the 2-deep D-roster. I think the biggest improvement by a unit on the team will the D-line. I wish I could remember the name of the DT that really had a break out game last year agst Kansas. The other unit that has the potential to show marked improvement is the RB unit. That however is dependent on Bennett. If he is back 100%, that area will show huge year to year gains.
Tex - That is why this could be a very, very interesting season. A lot of unanswered questions but a lot of potential. Hopefully, when fall practice starts we will be able to get some updates from Kent or others.
Loon, how do you define your position on the Badger game?
Could you discuss the situation should the team win?
Of course not.
MN fans really hate losing any game, far as I can tell. WI is a trophy game, which makes a win sweeter, no doubt, and a loss tougher to take.
Perhaps you could concentrate your efforts on positive thinking about a vistory over Wisky.
I am trying to be objective here, but I feel this is the deepest and most athletic roster I can recall reading at this point in the year. That is the positive side of me—the negative side of me is wondering if the coaching staff can develop them. I can not recall being so unsure of an upcoming season.
short ornery norwegian says:
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:47 am
It’s official - the Gopher FB program belongs to Loon. It is his program. As he stated, All the coaches OWE him. We are all just lucky that he allows us to attend the games, watch on TV or listen to the radio.
One question - is the new stadium large enough to hold your over-inflated sense of self-importance?
You sir, are ONE FAN - ONE OF MANY. You have no exclusive claim to being a better, or more imporant fan than anyone else.
I try not to be personal on these posts, but if there’s one thing that really sets me off, it’s self-important bozos who think they are the center of the universe. I figured out a long time ago that I’m a very small piece of the puzzle in a very big universe.
And Loon - since you run the team, I have decided that everything that happens to the team is YOUR FAULT. Every loss is on you - after all, it’s your team.
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I can only hope the new GM will hire bud as coach. Maybe Bud’s clients can recruit.
Texas Gopher says:
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:10 am
CG–thanks for the 2-deep D-roster. I think the biggest improvement by a unit on the team will the D-line. I wish I could remember the name of the DT that really had a break out game last year agst Kansas. The other unit that has the potential to show marked improvement is the RB unit. That however is dependent on Bennett. If he is back 100%, that area will show huge year to year gains.
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You may be thinking of McKinley.
wren says:
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:23 am
I don’t care what you cowards do or say about me, but you do NOT screw around mocking the Veterans that I served with. How many of you creeps had had the courage to serve your country like we did?????
Sure, just try to pay a lack of respect to United States Military Veterans. I know exactly what you cowards are like.
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My Grandfather served at the Battle of the Buldge, an uncle served near hamburger hill, my father was in Iraq and Yugoslavia, and I was in Afganistan. You are a damn disgrace to the uniform. STFU.
Derek says:
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:48 am
short ornery norwegian says:
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:47 am
It’s official - the Gopher FB program belongs to Loon. It is his program. As he stated, All the coaches OWE him. We are all just lucky that he allows us to attend the games, watch on TV or listen to the radio.
One question - is the new stadium large enough to hold your over-inflated sense of self-importance?
You sir, are ONE FAN - ONE OF MANY. You have no exclusive claim to being a better, or more imporant fan than anyone else.
I try not to be personal on these posts, but if there’s one thing that really sets me off, it’s self-important bozos who think they are the center of the universe. I figured out a long time ago that I’m a very small piece of the puzzle in a very big universe.
And Loon - since you run the team, I have decided that everything that happens to the team is YOUR FAULT. Every loss is on you - after all, it’s your team.
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I can only hope the new GM will hire bud as coach. Maybe Bud’s clients can recruit.
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The only thing we are missing is a wren for a mascot.
Derek—could be. I remember the guy was in the backfield a lot and had a real Unwarranted roughing the passer penalty called agst him. That was a terrible call and a real turning point in the game. I will admit that every other personal foul agst a defensive player last year was justified(and that needs to be reduced this year), but that one agst Kansas was bad call by that official.
Bayfield, you want facts? Lehan and Middlebrooks were recruited by Mason and the question was about corners not safeties. Brewer was also recruited by Mason. As I look at the possible defensive depth chart for this up coming season I see 3 of the 4 d-lineman were recruited by Mason and 2 0f the three starting linebackers. How long does it take to get rid of Masons garbage and get the great recruits that Brewster has brought in on the field?
As for the secoundary I hope the predictions are way off. M. Sherels is backed up by either JJ or R. Collado or McKelton? Hope no one gets hurt. At safety we have Theret who we know can not ball in the Big Ten and a player in Royston who could not crack the starting lineup at Whisky on a regular basis. Unless someone steps up to the plate we are going to get killed in the back end this year.
You guys make me laugh. J. Fisch gets Weber into a conselor postion with Manning. If you do not think that Weber is one of the top 25 QB’s returning in the BCS this year you are on drugs. He earned that position at the camp and I for one am very glad he was able to attend. Given the fact that his coach has never played or coached the QB position I would hope someone would think that it was a good idea for Weber to get coached up. I guess Fisch pull was not good enough to get Gray at the camp also. You guys have no clue how most things work in football at the college and pro level.
Shorty: And Loon - since you run the team, I have decided that everything that happens to the team is YOUR FAULT. Every loss is on you - after all, it’s your team.
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Perfect Shorty. You nailed it. Very fitting for the self proclaimed deep thinker, conceited, two-faced, know-it- all Canuck.
Bayfield, you ever ask yourself why in 2007 did Brewster decide to re-shuffle the deck on defense when he had 10 starters back. Benched Allen/Brown inside. Played Willie, moved Davis to Lber and Campbell to DE. Took Manion from Starting FS and moved him to LBer (2nd or 3rd team) and benched Hightower. You could say it was all Withers doing but as a head coach would you not agree that when you have a group of players returning with experience you would try to utilize that to your advantage? I just believe that Brewster is a bad judge of talent and does not have enough experience on the defensive side of the ball to help out when needed.
This will go over your heads Shorty and Bayfield, but I can only speak for and about what I think and feel. I am content to allow others to speak for themselves. I have never called myself a deep thinker on this or any other site. That is a lie. Only a deep thinker would have supported sending a failure coach into the opening of TCF.
If I were in charge of Gopher football we would try to build the program up over the next twenty to thirty years starting with TCF. Your idea of trying out new coaches every time WE fail to support a good coach is the approach I have always opposed. Our problems are our problems and no coach can do more than somewhat improve the situation we have here.
It is my program but is run by a cheerleader/big talker/used car salesman, not a “one brick at a time” person like me. (I would have stuck with Mason had he not gotten involve with Garry Russell.) I would have brought his replacement in as a coordinator and opened TCF with a guy who would have beaten Air Force, nine times out of ten.




