About Last Night….and About Today…
Posted on May 27th, 2007 – 9:21 AMBy La Velle
I’m sure many will lament some of the baserunning decisions by the Twins on Saturday. Scott Ullger sent Cuddy home in the third and he was thrown out. LNP took off for home on a bouncer in the fifth and was thrown out. Torii Hunter tried to stretch a single in the sixth and was thrown out.
I had no problems with the first two choices. You’ve got to run the bases aggressively and make opponents prove they can execute. Toronto put together a nice relay to throw Cuddy out - and my man Sal Fasano (former Royals prospect) blocked the plate well. The contact play was on when Punto took off for home, but the ball happened to be hit right at the shortstop. I thought Torii gambled the most when he tried to stretch his single but, again, Toronto made the play.
The Twins also have to be credited when things work out. Cuddy and Bartlett both made the correct decision to go from first to third on singles to left.
The other thing one of my friends wanted to know was why the Twins pitched to Lyle Overbay in the 13th with first base open. Overbay, a left-handed hitter, entered the game batting .203 against righthanders. So the Twins seemed to have the advantage with Matt Guerrier. The belief is that Guerrier could have gotten Overbay out if he throws the curveball to drop out of the strike zone and makes Overbay chase.
I’m at the park now. It’s too early to know what the Twins will do with Ortiz. I will tell you this: I sensed that the coaching staff wants to make the change, but the front office historically is patient with these things.
Joe Mauer is doing a bunch of exercises in the outfield as I write this. He’s done lunges, sprints and some weird drill in which he gets down on his stomach then suddenly rolls over, pops up and dashes off.
Lineups
Blue Jays: 1. Alex Rios, RF. 2. Lyle Overbay, 1B. 3. Vernon Wells, CF. 4. Stairs, LF. 5. The Big Hurt, 1B. 6. Hill, 2B. 7. Phillips, C. 8. Roberts, 3B. 9. McDonald, SS.
Twins: 1. Castillo, 2B. 2. Cirillo, DH. 3. Cuddyer, RF. 4. Morneau, 1B. 5. Hunter, CF. 6. Kubel, LF. 7. Heintz, C. 8. Punto, 3B. Bartlett, SS. Pitching: Silva.
353 Responses to "About Last Night….and About Today…"
Speaking of patience, can anyone explain why no GM, including our own glacier, has freed Morgan Ensberg from Houston. He has four homers with about 112 at bats. Seems like regular play would provide a nice right handed 3b bat for someone. Take a look at the Twins lineup if he is in, RonDL and The Chairman are back and Kubel wakes up on the first two pitches. Having Punto and Cirillo as supersubs makes for a stronger team and bench IMO.
Why is anyone patient with Lew Ford?
I’ve wondered about Ensberg too. You see that he’s hiitting .220, but a fresh start elsewhere has energized some players in the past.
This team is close to a real hot steak. They’ve scored at least four runs in every game since that Cleveland debacle. If they can get their starters through six, they could go on a 10 of 14 run and become relevant again…
Be very afraid, LaVelle, because I was thinking that exact thing and you really don’t want to find yourself thinking like me very often.
I was not one who objected to the rotation the Twins brought north out of Ft Myers because I felt a couple of months would determine which, if any of these veterans would stick and which of the kids would earn a promotion. Those answers are now evident.
Make the moves, TR, and make it June 1, because when Mauer is back this team is going to score runs consistently and all it takes is starting pitching that consistently gets in to the 6-7 inning range to put together a lot of wins.
By the way… I’ll be in SF next weekend and plan to take the BART over to Oakland for at least one game so if you could get Gardy to commit as to whether he’s going to pitch Johan Friday or Saturday, I’d appreciate it 
LEN3,
What happened to the Bat-Girl story?
I thought you had some inside scoop?
LEN3… PLEASE don’t do the LNP thing… PLEASE!!
I might give Ortiz one more start. He just doesn’t seem to have the pinpoint control he had this spring. Almost like his arm has worn out. And there isn’t much movement, if any, on his fastball. He’s serving cookies way to often.
EDIT… I meant Sat or Sun for Johan’s next start.
I need coffee before I start posting on these things.
LNP is so easy to write.
And be patient. I’ll probably have my Bat-Girl insider up tonight before I head to WCCO to appear on Rosen’s Sports Sunday (plug, plug, plug).
If Ortiz gets sent to the pen will it be Slowey? Garza’s recent comments (and record) about change-ups etc… couldn’t have done him any favours.
A few roster moves that NEED to be made by June 1:
Slowey up, Ortiz to the pen, Cali down. No explanation needed here.
Barrett up, DePaula down. Barrett kills lefties, and DePaula is clearly not ready nerves-wise.
G. Jones up, LRod down, Cirillo more at 3b, Punto more as utility guy. We need some pop, and Punto can adequately cover for SS/2b, as can Cirillo in a pinch.
Mauer for Heintz (obviously).
Just these simple moves would dramatically improve our team. And when White’s back, one of Ford/Tyner HAS to go. You don’t need both; they’re the same damn player!
Jeff, Garza isn’t pitching well, so it doesn’t matter. If he starts dealing, and there’s a need, he’ll get the call.
Right now, Slowey is in line for the call up if the Twins punt Ortiz.
Not sure there’s any market out there for Ortiz at this point so it’s probably a matter of sending him to the pen or the ole DFA. With or without his comments, there’s absolutely no reason to promote him over Slowey as long as the service time isn’t an issue. Also crossing my mind that a decent outing today by Silva would make him trade bait.
The season isn’t over by a long shot but it’s time for Terry Ryan to contribute to the effort if he’s serious about contending this year.
Angle I had and what I saw last night was Ullger waving Cuddyer in before he got to third, and Rios was scooping up the ball. They had plenty of time to throw him out.
Since Clayton was playing half-way it was an easy play to throw Punto out. If he was playing back, Punto may have scored. Bad decision both plays.
Also LEN, why not bunt more on Glaus? He looks like he’s hobbling quite badly. Make him run.
If you pay attention, you’ll see that Hunter is trying to stretch singles into doubles every chance he possibly gets. This is because a higher number of doubles will get him more cash in the next contract, and he’s got nothing to lose (in terms of that next contract, that is) by trying to stretch a single to a double. Once he’s got the hit in the bag, getting thrown out at second doesn’t show up in his stats, but doubles do.
You might think this is reactionary, but several people who frequent other blogs have noticed this trend all season long.
I agree that it’s Slowey time come June 1st.Send Ortiz to the pen as the new long guy and see if he can contribute there.I’d like to see Cirillo get some extended play at third and see if there is anything left in the tank.if not its time to look elsewhere at third.
Agree totally on letting LNP (sorry Seth!)becoming the utility guy he should be,backing up Bart,spelling Castillo at second Etc.I’d like to see Hientz remain if only because it would allow Gardy to feel comfortable using Mauer and RedDog as DH’s.We need Redmonds bat in the line-up.
Keep Kubel in the line-up as the leftfielder.I think he takes better ABs when he’s playing the field.L-Rod and either Ford or Tyner are the odd men out.L- Rods value(if he ever had any) is gone with Punto as the utility guy.And we do not need both Ford and Tyner.At this point I would opt for Ford simply because he is right handed,although I feel Tyner is the better over all player.I’d flip flop those two if we could get RonDL healthy.
I’m going to go against my instincts here and say we probably shouldn’t be doing too much bunting. Every time we try it it’s a popup to the pitcher or first baseman. We used to be able to do it, but it isn’t working any more.
Castillo can probably still do it, but I’d much rather see him continue to smash the ball into the plate and scamper to first. That’s much more disheartening for Mr. Glaus.
But Bartlett can’t bunt, Punto’s bunting skills have deteriorated even more than his other skills, Ford can’t bunt, Tyner doesn’t play, and nobody else on the team can run fast enough to make it worthwhile.
Oh well. Hopefully they can hit some doubles. (In a row this time, please.)
Also, I thought Ullger screwed up on the Cuddy play at the plate.He was out by quite bit and it was the second out of the inning.Next batter,Hunter delivered what would have been a Sac Fly.Could have had a possible big inning.If the contact play was on with Punto there isn’t much you can do about that.The TV replay showed Gardy’s reaction to Cirillo stretching the single into a double in the ninth.I thought Gardy was gonna have the Big One!!
Sorry to disagree Sean, but I think the Hunter thing is off base.Thats just somebody thowing something out there to see if it will stick.Hunter has always been agressive on the base paths.I think it’s more a product of Hunter having lost a step or two and not realizing it.
Watching Vernon Wells catch everything in site this weekend reminds me of how Torii used to cover centerfield.Torii is still a good Centerfielder,but he doesn’t get the jumps he used to in the field or out of the box.
I’m with you, Doug. (Apparently there are two Seans on this board.)
I really don’t think we should be complaining about Hunter’s propensity to try to stretch singles into doubles. How many times has he been successful so far this year when he’s tried that, and how much have we all loved it?
If you want him to be less aggressive on the basepaths, he probably wouldn’t be 3rd in the AL in doubles right now. (And the only guys with more are David Ortiz and Magglio Ordonez. Good company.)
I certainly am no Silva fan, but I will give him his props today. What an absolutely HUGE start for this team/the bullpen. We really needed a solid start from him today and he delivered and then some. Thanks Carlos.
CARLOS!
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SILVA!
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Silva may be heading towards a wall here.
Short leash Gardy, short leash.
That was a good win. Silva did what was necessary, and the offense finally helped him out.
And now we’ve won a second home series. Excellent.
Wow a 3 hit game for the Twins and they win 4-2. Thank God for MVP.
Great outing by Carlos also.
After being at the game last night and seeing the pop in the middle of the order right now, I would recommend that Gardy keep it stable and bat Mauer second when he returns. Now I know this has already been discussed and rejected before, but Mauer was still not driving the ball and knocking in runs like the middle of the order now, and I think he and his .450+ OBP would be even more valuable batting 2nd. A lineup of something like Castillo/Mauer/Cuddyer/Morneau/Hunter/White/Kubel/Bartlett/Punto might look awfully nice in a month or two.
Interesting Stat I heard on the radio.In the last six games the Twins have scored 32 runs.Cuddy,MVP,and Hunter have driven in 30 of the 32.Slowey in for Ortiz should help, but it sure would be nice if mr. Ryan went and got this team another decent bat.
P.S. I’m not holding my breath on getting the bat.
As someone that may be relatively cheap and is blocked in his current organization…what about Brandon Moss?
The kid is raking for Pawtucket right now, and has been a solid bat throughout his pro career. He’s obviously not going to crack that Red Sox OF, so he may be available.
What makes anyone think Ortiz will turn it around? What track record does he have the last few years? Oh yeah, an ERA over 5 in 2005 and 2006, and that was in the national league. What shred of evidence is there that this guy still has anything left?
So the point is, Ortiz had a good April, crappy May, and crappy ENTIRE 2005 and 2006 in the pitcher friendly national league. Thats one good month out of 14. So what will giving him “one more start” prove, even if he pitches halfway decent? I repeat thats one month out 14.
What’s up with Boof warming up yesterday and coming into the game in relief today? Just a band-aid for a worn-out bullpen, or something else? Don’t tell me it’s Slowey coming up to take Boof’s spot with Ortiz remaining in the rotation?
I am also a fan of having Mauer bat 2nd coming back. Cuddy, MVP, and Hunter are clearly the home run threats in this lineup and there is not an alternative hitter that is within .100 OBP of Mauer. He is a very similar hitter to Derek Jeter and would be a boon for the Twins in that role.
While Mauer does have a good Slugging Percentage, he often doesn’t have anyone to drive in since the #2 hitter has been a black hole of offense for the Twins. I’d rather have the Twins’ top 5 hitters in the lineup bat in a row instead of having some lesser player bat #2 because “its the way things are done”. The Red Sox have their 2nd highest OBP threat batting 2nd and they lead the league in runs even with a slumping Manny.
If I were TR I would trade Baker, Ortiz, and someone of the Duensing/Ward/Smit/Pino ilk to Tampa for OF Elijah Dukes and 3B Evan Longoria.
They need pitching worse than we need hitting. They have a logjam of talent at both positions. Dukes needs a change of scenery … and maybe an exorcism. I think our clubhouse will be a much better influence than the kids in Tampa.
Dukes needs a change of scenery? I agree. Behind bars would be a nice change if everything reported was accurate.
I am happy to see that the Twins have started scoring more runs recently. Nevertheless, why not make a concerted effort to get Ensberg (or someone else)? He only has upside (unless he gets injured but that is always a risk regardless).
My beef is that the Twins have not upgraded from last year at the dish. Are they going to be a better offense than last year? I don’t think so! Punto had a much better year than can be expected last year. I’m not ragging on him. He’s probably playing a little worse than can be expected this year. M and M have little upside if any from last year. Hunter has been surprising at the plate and Cuddy probably has a little bit of room to climb, but I can’t see where the Twins are going improve to the point of catching the Tigers and Indians who have undoubtedly both improved. We need more pop in the lineup!
Okay, let the poison arrows fall from the sky.
PS-I’m not holding my breath either but we do need another bat IMHO.
Worst part, Skippy, is that Ryan said after last season ended that he knew they had to change something offensively, using their lack of run production in the playoffs as evidence. Something like, “we can’t win scoring runs like we do.” Then he went and did nothing.
I share your frustration. Ryan may not have had the oppurtunity to improve with the loss of two of the teams top three starters of 2006, looking for pitching first. From listening too often I guess, the team goes after guys (this year pitchers)with a track record, before taking a chance on a new guy. Few guys have been given a starting spot out of AAA or AA over the years. Mauer was one they did give a starting position to and also commit dollrs to. Even Morneau was up and down and competing with Mienk for first base. They didn’t give him Ab’s as a designated hitter.
Once the pitching is settled and teams start looking to the future at 60 games in, there may be an oppurtunity for some sort of hitter “with a track record”. 3B, LF or Dh would be nice hitting with power from the rightside. It is a cliche, since it has been used for the last six years or so. In fact, the something they may do is give White either the Dh spot or left field and stick with Punto at 3B. And also look at Mauer as their additional offensive catalyst. I wouldn’t, but I don’t have 1-5 million to pay a power hitter let alone own a baseball team. At the moment it seems like there are only 4-5 guys that are helping out the offense. I see Kubel, Ford, Bartlett less so and LNP and I think automatic out. The least they could do is waste a few pitches.
I hope Punto makes an adjustment with that swing too. “Ouch , that cut looks like it hurt”. Reminds me of 2005, pathetic, last year he didn’t have that little upswing at the end of his swing. I thought he talked to Carew, he should call him up again and get his money back. He finishes swing like he’s Bonds.
As for the Twins going a different way this year, and pick-up a PoHitting Righhanded hitter, I don’t expect them to spend any money. There is a reason they are millionaires.
Pete Mag,
Love that lineup suggestion. Just don’t buy the Punto 2 hole, Mauer 3 hole arguement (the lineup we were using). How many times has Mauer come up with one on and one out because the 2 hole has been a black hole? Someone yesterday said “you put your best hiiter 3 hole period”. Sorry, just don’t see it with this team.
About two weeks ago, this blog was on fire about how Justin Morneau’s MVP season last year was a fluke.
Not so much any more.
My question is this, If Justin Morneau has another MVP year, will the East coast media still say that Jeter should get a life time achivement award?
Slowey in….Ortiz out. Makes perfect sense to me. I can’t wait to see what the kid has (just like last year when I could not wait for Garza).
Pete Mag….
I agree with you about the 2-hole. I’d put Mauer there and have Hunter in the 3-hole. I think Hunter is having an outstanding year and he deserves to be there.
1. Castillo
2. Mauer
3. Hunter
4. Morneau
5. Cuddy
I am all for upgrading the 3b position but Ensberg doesn’t do much for me. He is 32 and unless he starts on the clear I don’t know how much more upside there is left. Longoria would be fantastic but we would probably have to give up Garza or someone of that caliber to get him.
I am quite perplexed at why the Twins have no interest in signing Craig Wilson. This team’s biggest weakness is at DH and Wilson’s deficiencies at defense are a moot point in that role. I don’t think he would cost all that much and he has been an .800+ OPS player the last three years. His K rate has to come down but he would be a very low risk/moderate reward hitter for this team. Plus he is only 30 years old. Most importantly, we wouldn’t have to give up any prospects.
Mark, I completely agree on Wilson. He is definitely worth a shot for this team right now. Color me equally perplexed on that one.
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