Twins-Indians, the red-eye edition
Posted on August 27th, 2007 – 4:39 PMBy La Velle
Folks, I had planned to post this morning because I have a bunch of leftover stuff from the weekend, plus some minor league notes. But I’m working on just three hours of sleep.
I was at Camden Yards until 8 p.m., finishing up daily stuff. I called for a cab to take me to a hotel near BWI airport. I discovered that the door I usually exit the stadium through was locked. I had to go out the service entrance, but never found it. Someone directed me through a tunnel and up into that long building beyond the right field wall you used to see when Rafael Palmiero hit some of his B-12 powered home runs.
That door was locked too, so I went behind the security desk and contacted building services, when I was told to look for a small button on the wall to push to release the door out. Meanwhile, the cab was waiting for me on the other side of the stadium. I called the dispatcher to send the cab to the new location.
A few minutes later, there was the cab….with a police car right behind it, lights flashing! I waited 20 minutes for the cabbie to get a ticket for running a red light. I finally arrived at the hotel at 10:30 (the cabbie complained about the ticket most of the way), got a quick bite to eat and tried to go to sleep. I had a 4 a.m. wake up call to catch a 6:15 a.m. flight out, but I was staring at the ceiling at 2 a.m. Going to bed at 3 a.m. Sunday morning after a rain-delayed game, followed by a 4 a.m. wake up call the next morning throws you off.
Does anyone else really care about this? Let’s move on to baseball.
Joe Mauer said the hammy feels a little better today, but I don’t expect him on the field until next week at the earliest.
Kevin Slowey may not be called up Friday after all. It depends if Scott Baker, who’s with his wife and newborn son, can return on Wednesday and throw in the bullpen. Baker didn’t get normal side work in before Sunday’s start and it showed.
The unknown in all this is that the Baker baby is five weeks premature, and Scott has to make sure everything is fine with the family first.
Lineups
Twins: 1. Casilla, 2B. 2. Bartlett, SS. 3. Torii, CF. 4. Morneau, 1B. 5. Cuddy, RF. 6. Kubix, DH. 7. Redmond, C. 8. Tyner, LF. 9. Punto, 3B. Pitching: Silva.
Indians: 1. Grady, CF. 2. Cabrera, 2B. 3. Hafner, DH. 4. Martinez, 1B. 5. Peralta, SS. 6. Blake, 3B. 7. Lofton, LF. 8. Gutierrez, RF. 9. Shoppach, C. Pitching: Byrd.
260 Responses to "Twins-Indians, the red-eye edition"
Congrats, Bakers. And nothing but well wishes for your premature little one.
Sorry to hear about your long day LEN3.Are we going with the four outfieler routine tonight to cut down on the extra base hits?Kubel AND Tyner in LF just kidding!I assume one of them(Kubel?) is the DH.
More best wishes for the Baker family.Family comes first.
Again…continuation of the topic from Joe C.’s blog: Casilla batting leadoff in this make or break series?
Questionable I’d say. A lot of pressure on the young man.
Too bad to hear Mauer won’t be back any soon by the sounds of it. I really really don’t want to see Heintz in our starting lineup at any point.
Why are you calling Kubel Kubix. Just wondering
Jason, I haven’t read Joe C.’s blog, but you may be on to something: A flip-flop of Casilla and Bartlett is in order?
My guess (Gardy’s pre-game is over) is that Gardy may prefer to hit and run with Casilla in front of Barty. I don’t know for sure…and my coffee i.v. hasn’t started yet….
And the pressure on Casilla is totally not his fault. But if he fails in key spots and the Twins lose 2 of 3 this series, TR is going to look very bad, indeed.
Austin,
Was I the troll? Not sure who you were commenting on.
I made it up. Kubel started hitting, so I stuck with it
La Velle,
Any word on why Buscher isn’t in the lineup. Seems like he should be playing third against a RHP at this point? Shin still bothering him? Punto just too good right now to sit?
JT, no I think most people who are regulars on this blog know who has been referred to as that in the past. Don’t worry, it is not you.
I’m just saying, La Velle, Tyner is a veteran and he had three hits yesterday…these games are our season, too.
Figured…just wanted to make sure. Plus, I think I was doing the feeding…my bad.
Tyner-Bartlet-Hunter-Canada-Cuddyeria-Kuble-Red-Punto-casilla?
Is that what you are thinking Jason?
Ahhh, 5pm and the blogging stops. Nice.
I’m surprised that RonDL hasn’t been pencilled in for the rest of the week after his homer yesterday.
Thanks for the Slowey explanation LaVelle.
Bartlett
Redmond
Hunter
MVP
Cuddy
Kubel
Tyner
Punto
Casilla
LaVelle,
Quick question from a Twins fan in the DC area.
Since I have never seen you other than your picture in your bio above, I was at the game yesterday. Were you sitting on the front row in the press box, 2nd from the left as you would look out onto the field? There would have been a young lady (glasses I think) to your right?
Enough for personal questions…
Regards,
That probably was me….
I like this lineup:
Casilla
Bartlett
Hunter
Morneau
Cuddyer
Kubel
Redmond
Buscher
Tyner
So I suppose we’re pretty close to that, except Buscher’s not playing. I’d like to second the questions as to his health. Was he ready to come off the DL? Why hasn’t he played since coming off?
I like bartlett leading off. Not because I think he’s so good there but because he sucks in the 2 hole. But sadly for as ugly as Josh’s lineup looks it may be the best the Twins can do right now since Punto can not be exercised from this lineup.
Can anybody think of any reason to start Punto ahead of anybody?
I don’t think Bartlett should lead off. He has the ability to hit doubles/triples and hit line drives. With the possibility of having Casilla (speed) on base in front of him, that’s an RBI.
It’s time to get off to a good early start against the Tribe.
Let’s go Twins!
He does have a bit more pop that casilla but not enough to matter. Plus he doesn’t seem to be able to advance runners well. On the other hand his OBP while not great isn’t bad and he can make up for it with maybe a few stolen bases. Face it we have no #2 hitters on this team. If they can handle the bat they’re too slow and if they’re quick enough they can’t handle the bat well enough, or their name is nick punto.
Swung at ball four right there. Dang it.
Casilla has got to hit that 3-1 pitch hard.
Man, Byrd throws meat! Why can’t the Twins hit him?
You are serious! Bartlett is hitting .313 with an .832 as a #2 hitter. I didn’t research it, but I would venture a guess that the Twins’ offense is better with Barty hitting #2.
1 pitch for Bart…way to work it!
Certainly better than Punto batting 2nd.
flatblade: Swish.
Imagine that, another “don’t blink or you’ll miss it” inning against Byrd.
Erik, I totally agree. Don’t they find it funny that no other team in the majors has near as big of a problem with him as they do? Silva scares me with how well a bunch of the Cleveland players do against him.
Be careful with splits. They didn’t move Bartlett to #2 until he started hitting. He wasn’t batting very well early in the year while in the bottom of the order. It’s not the 2 hole that is causing him to hit. It’s him hitting which is causing Gardy to use him there.
Looks like it’ll be the rough Silva tonight.
Wow Bartlett, can we possibly start this game any worse?
Nice defense.
Wow, Bartlett. And I praised you today!
You’d better make up for that.
Open up that zone a bit blue!
Take notes Twins…
This is how you put together a good offensive inning.
Silva, settle down here now. I know you haven’t received any help, but sometimes you gotta help yourself out.
Well, now limit the damage.
Yay for unearned runs!
I wonder if Gardy plans on fining Bartlett for that error.
Time to get the bats going. Quit making Byrd like like a Cy Young award winner this season.
Erik, how is this a good offensive inning for Cleveland. They were just gifted a run basically.
I realize it’s been convenient to rip on Casilla and I don’t want to pile on, but that flip to Bartlett was harder than necessary. It was catchable, to be sure, but it came at his head about double the speed he expected. Not really Casilla’s “fault” per se, just a sign that they still aren’t used to playing together. Or that Casilla is still too amped up.
Nice job by Silva to limit the damage.
Bert, don’t give us that “changes speeds well” speech.
It’s not Byrd…it’s the hitters.
So I’m going to question this…Gardy, Bert, and others make Byrd seem like he’s such a great pitcher…
So my question to them is…then why does Byrd have a 4.61 ERA?
Nora, that was a decent offensive inning by the Tribe because they worked the count. Sizemore worked a walk. Martinez fought off numerous pitches before lining a single.
Erik, exactly. I don’t think the Twins are the only team that he changes speeds against.
It is a bit confusing how they can rip Bedard for 6 ER but can’t get anything going off Byrd.
Oh, you can add in that .302 OBA too to Byrd’s resume.
Byrd sucks.
Austin, they still would not have scored if not for the error.
So how many pitches does Byrd throw tonight for a CG?
85? 90?
He’s at 25 after two innings.
Detroit only lit him up for 6 earned runs in 5 and 1/3 innings in his last start. It’s time for a hit boys.
Nora, you can sit there and say what coulda shoulda and woulda happensed all night long. The fact of the matter is we screwed up defensively last inning and they took advantage of it.
It’s like trying to explain why the Yankees couldn’t do anything against Baker last year but every other team was doing fine agaqinst him.
Austin that is basically what I said. Our defense gifted them a run.
Byrd’s mastery of the Twins is as hard to explain as the Twins’ mastery of Bedard. Their best hope is for Silva to keep it close, and for the batters to work some deep counts to drive Byrd’s pitch count up so they can get into the pen.
Nora, the thing is they still worked the count and fought off way more pitches to earn themselves a walk and a hit than the Twins have done in either of the first two innings. That is my point.
Nice much needed 1-2-3 inning there by Chief.
Austin, they wouldn’t have been able to score without the error.
Nora, the error wouldn’t have produced a run without the Indians getting runners on base and then driving in the guy on third.
Both things can be true.
You’d think this lineup would change their dang approach vs. Byrd.
But no.
A hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well at least Tyner keeps hitting the ball as of late.
Heck we are probably best off if he bunts regardless of if there is already one out.
Why can’t he surprise us ever like he did with that three run run in Anaheim earlier this year?
WOW LNP sucks. Remind us again Gardy why he is in the lineup yet again?
That’s the reason why I hate you LNP.
Even at the 9 slot Punto costs us runs.
Other teams ae sending their poor performers down or benching them. Us we find creative reasons to keep them in the lineup. Could there be an acceptable reason that Buscher isn’t playing? i don’t get it.
Well you had to figure Pronk was going to get a hit there after Bremer sat there throughout the entire at-bat and bashed him.
Geeze Chief, that is the absolute last thing we needed. This is typical. You have three players in the lineup hitting over .400 against him and imagine that, both Pronk and Martinez are two of them.
I have a question for the blog, can we possibly score 3 runs off of Byrd tonight?
Kurt,
I would assume that Gardy will bring up the “best possible defense behind Silva” scenario.
This game is about over with the way this lineup has, or has not, hit Byrd.
I for one am so sick and tired of that best possible defense excuse. Well what happened in the first inning Gardy? Your best possibly defense gave up an unearned run!
Nice to see our leadoff hitter has a nice typical leadoff hitter at-bat. Are you serious Casilla? One pitch and done. That is typical and that is why you don’t bat that piece of work leadoff.
Byrd has scared the Twins
I know, LNP’s the best fielder in all of baseball. Of course he is. I just forget sometimes.
Gardy, nice to see that the boys have showed up in what has to be considered the most important game of the season to this point. Way to go and stick the best lineup out there possible!
This man-crush Gardy has on Punto is completely out of control! Anyone who wants to argue that Gardenhire is a good manager need look no further than how he jeopardizes his team’s chances of winning every friggin’ time he puts this little Elmo look-alike in the line-up. The Tigers can get rid of a guy who had 28 HR’s and 90 RBI’s last year ’cause he wasn’t getting the job done THIS YEAR, and yet just putting Punto on the bench is not an option on this team. Gardy, this is a PROFESSIONAL team you’re managing, not your kid’s little league squad where you have to worry about Punto’s mother chastising you because her little Nicky isn’t seeing the field often enough.
That might have been the worst major league swing I have seen this season Torii!
Casilla did get 6 pitches in his 1st AB remember while Bart hit the first pitch he saw tonight for an out. Not just Casilla who is the problem here.
LNP’s mother might be tougher than you think.
Erik, you are absolutely right, this game is over. We can’t score three runs off Byrd. The Twins are making him look like Brandon Webb. Too bad that Silva had to give up that two run shot, but then again I guess you can see that coming when he is facing a lineup that has 3 hitters who have batted over .400 against him. Just sad to see them come out flat in this HUGE game.
There’s that tremendous glove right there stopping Blake’s batted ball.
I think it’s time to go read “The Book.”
Shaun- If you are in the leadoff spot in the lineup, and especially if you are batting 1st in an inning other than the first you need to take at least a pitch. If you don’t you should make sure that you either get a good pitch to hit and make good contact or else get a hit.
Kurt,
I would definitely play his mother over him.
Well Blake was hitting .378 against Silva in his career coming into tonight, it figures he would get a hit. Chief, after this hit by Lofton, do you really understand the importance of this game? I don’t think you do since you are giving up hits to the bottom of the order.
Austin,
Just so you know…
Pitchers do give up hits.
That’s why you don’t see no hitters left and right, and hitter’s with batting averages of .000.
Erik, I understand that but at the same point, you normally don’t see 3 hitters hitting over .400 against a pitcher and a bunch of others hitting over .300 against him. What is your excuse for Silva after Kelly “I am struggling hardcore since the ASB” Shoppach laces a double off the fence against him? I guess that was just a bad time for you to post that.
the twins are done. They will not score any runs off of Byrd.
Nick34, well even if they do manage one or two, there is no way that they could ever score 5 against him. Also the Tribe is not done with the top of the order coming up.
Doesn’t look like Twins have a prayer in this game. Silva is getting roughed up (looking at the avg. Indians have had against Silva it is not surprising) Twins as usual can’t do anything against Byrd.
Austin,
You don’t normally see hitters having great success against pitchers? Umm, since when? If that were the case, then pitchers should be shutting down lineups on a nightly basis, right?
It’s the same excuse for when Nick Punto laces a double against a certain pitcher. It happens…it’s baseball.
You really need to go out, have some run, meet some ladies.
Why is it unacceptable that our bottom of the order doesn’t get a lot of hits, and also unacceptable that the bottom of the order on the other team gets hits sometimes?
It can’t be both.
*fun
Sean, good point.
Boy, that shift is working wonderfully against Hafner.
Well, we have something to blame besides the offense today.
God we needed something better than this out of Silva. His two out pitching has been awful. Way to keep us in the game Chief. This really could kill any momentum we built up over the last week.
Silva looked ticked off in the dugout. I wonder if he was saying trade me to Philadelphia.
It’s time for the DePaula ERA watch to continue!
He should be ticked off–at himself. Not a good performance from him at all.
Erik, yeah good point buddy considering now Silva has given up 6 earned runs in 3 and 2/3 innings. Not only that, but judging by these stats that the Tribe players has against Silva, it looks as though you are the one that needs to get out more (I know there isn’t a ton to do in the state of Wisconsin, but you should listen to your own advice):
Sizemore - .487
Pronk - .433
Martinez - .414
Peralta - .333
Blake - .378
Lofton - .286
Silva had been able to get your boy Shoppach out in his first 4 at-bats against him, but as usual when it was a crucial at-bat, Chief folded and got a frozen rope hit against him.
I wonder what Silva was being so adamant about when FSN showed him in the dugout with Gardy.
Well, there is always tomorrow.
Silva was upset because castilla was not playing his position correctly. Castilla isn’t going to have much money left if he keeps playing airhead baseball.
The radio guys seemed to suggest that Silva was unhappy with the shift.
He was telling Gardenhire, “Hey Gardy, what do you expect out of me, did you not see a stat sheet and see how over half their team absolutely kills me?
Is it the player’s responsibility to put on a shift or do they get the signal from the dugout?
Erik,
He was probably arguing Austin’s point to Gardy that Austin and Nora have been blabbing all night.
Not Terry Ryan, the shift call comes from the dugout. Silva can’t be mad about the shift considering that basically every team that Cleveland plays against does the exact same thing against them. The bottom line is he was just horrible tonight.
Len- yeah that must have been what it was since we stopped that conversation about an hour ago.
Thanks Austin. There’s the Redmond shot to Right field.
That is Kubel going into third right there Bremer, not Cuddyer.
Austin,
You obviously either misunderstood my point, or just completely ignored it.
I said that it just so happens that pitchers do struggle vs. certain teams/players. It’s the way the game goes…it happens! And for you to bash Silva after he’s been the Twins 2nd best starter all year because of this one start is a big ignorant.
Going into tonight’s game, you had to know that the Twins would be in rough shape…they were facing Byrd who they struggle against, and Silva was starting who obviously, as you showed, gets hit hard vs. many of the Indian hitters.
And yes, Silva completely folded in that AB with Shoppach. Take him out back and get rid of him right now! Gosh forbid Johan Santana “folds” in a crucial AB.
For real man, get a clue.
BTW Austin.
You should be the Twins announcer, GM, manager, and play every position at the same time.
Erik, it really is a sad state when it is a fact that Silva has been the Twins 2nd best pitcher for this entire season. I, however, don’t think that would be the case, if these young guys would have started the season in the rotation. I think they would have easily had better stats than Chief.
Clearly it didn’t look good coming into tonight’s game, but every so often you need somebody that hasn’t always faired the greatest against the opponent for the night to step it up. Clearly, Silva did the exact opposite.
For your last ridiculous point, I was simply commenting on a fact that Dick Bremer seems to mess things up more often than not on the air.
As far as you saying I should be the GM and manager of this team, don’t act like you haven’t constantly been complaining about moves that TR has made and about lineups that Gardenhire has put out there. So I guess that could make two of us in that situation.
I vote to have Erik and Austin handcuffed together and forced to watch a Twins game.
Well you have one of your 2 wishes granted LEN3, we are both obviously watching this game, however painful it will become.
I feel like they should sit with their noses together in the corner… without their computers.
Austin,
Why is it a sad state? I don’t get what is so ridiculous about Silva being the Twins 2nd best starter for the 2007 season.
So Silva didn’t pitch well…we get it. I think he, you, I, and the entire British army know that Silva pitched badly tonight. However, I’d take one bad start from Silva if it meant him giving the Twins four terrific starts….which he did in August up until this start.
I’m not acting like I haven’t been upset with the front office of this club…because I have been, and still am. All the way from Terry Ryan to Scott Ullger…it’s been a disappointing display at times by the “leaders” of this organization.
Nice dinger by Bartlett. Too bad no one was on base.
Erik, you mean to tell me that you are happy about the fact that Silva is a #2 starter in the rotation of your team. Sorry, by the sounds of it you just started watching baseball 2 years ago, and let me be the first to inform you, Carlos Silva is not a #2 starter. So then I guess we agree that neither of us are happy with the moves of the front office all the way down to Ullger. At least we are on the same page for some things.
Hopefully the offense can start it up early tomorrow night against Westbrook, because lately it has seemed like Boof has been our #5 starter.
Who knows, maybe Austin and Erik are already using the handcuffs; just not watching the Twins…
I didn’t expect Bartlett to hit 5 home runs this year. Pretty nice little surprise there.
I wonder if Mauer notices the massive size discrepancy and is going to start swinging a bit faster. (That is, once he actually plays in a game.)
Len, not quite, why don’t you continue on back to your little fetish sites that you normall frequent?
It would be pretty nice if we could get a couple runs in this spot - c’mon Red pull through for us again!
PS - I think that is pretty interesting that Mauer and Bartlett have the same # of HR’s….. nice surprise like you said.
Good one Austin, nice spelling too. You must spit on your hand before you type like the Coon Rapid players do before handshakes…
Yeah, for sure……a couple of leather boys…….creepy.
that sucks.
Len- sorry it is called a typo. It’s not normall, it’s normally.
Typical hey Redmond are you gonna use the excuse of your hand on why you couldn’t get your tail down the line in time to not hit into a triple play. Wow!
I haven’t seen a triple play turned that way since back when the Twins did it in the 80’s at Yankee Stadium. Redmond that is totally and utterly pathetic. You should be ashamed of yourself.
It’s just so hard not to be a synic with this ball club.
I’d love to see Austin hit and pitch in the major leagues.
That play wasn’t even close at first. Redmond, you should join a reality show and run a 40 yard dash with fat Pat Williams.
Austin and Erik are so bitchy.
Erik, once I start getting paid over a million bucks (Redmond’s salary), trust me I would never hit into a triple play. Go back to eating your cheese.
KateSmith, I hope you aren’t the same Katie Smith that the Lynx decided was over the hill and got rid of.
Austin,
So getting paid a million bucks would make you run faster?
Or become an athlete?
I doubt it. And over here in Wisconsin, we love our cheese with beer.
Good point, getting paid more makes you better.
What?
It must be love.
Erik and Sean,
No the point is I am not getting paid over a million bucks a year. If I was, I would be training to daily to improve my fitness and speed. There is absolutely no excuse in the world for hitting into a 6-4-3 triple play. No matter how many excuses you want to make for him, it just should never happen. There is another Twins rally that ended abruptly.
Erik- Well in that case have a beer as well, you probably will need one by the end of this game. Just don’t forget your cheese and Favre jersey.
Rookie inexperience, not knowing where the bag is by Casilla.
Yet another $100 from Casilla.
We’re saving some SERIOUS money having this guy instead of Castillo.
And that my friends, is the “reality” that Autism lives in.
5-4-3
And Redmond’s a big fat old guy doing his best. He’s never been fast, and now he’s what, 35?
No matter how much he trained he’s not going to get much faster.
Now Sean, you know that catchers are built for speed. I’m sure Johnny Bench would have beaten it out…
Len, you are funny.
Thanks Kate, but a good comic really has to give props to his material. Thanks Austin.
Good point Len, I apologize. I was completely out of line.
Obviously Redmond’s been slacking in the weight room and on the track, and he was dogging it on that play in a distinct effort to lose the game.
Right on Sean, the biggest cheerleader on the team actually wants his team to lose, that’s why he was dogging it. I’m sure he will give his game check to charity…
He might even send $2.99 to Austin so the lad can buy a new pocket protector.
So since you are a catcher, it is completely acceptable to hit into a 5-4-3 (my bad the first time on that Sean) triple play. It wasn’t like Blake fielded the ball on third base. Regardless of your position, you can’t get tripled up in that situation.
Once again, LNP sucks! Gardenhire why is he in the lineup again? I don’t recall him making any web gems tonight.
It is not normal or by the book to send a guy with a 5 run deficit but I hope they let Casilla run anyway. Might as well.
“La Velle says: I vote to have Erik and Austin handcuffed together and forced to watch a Twins game.”
Romer and Craig or Ryan and Austin would be more entertaining.
Barker- Isn’t it past your bedtime? I know the Twins are playing in Cleveland, but I still have yet to have ever seen you on this blog.
So a lady in a small Mn town of 680 bids on a quilt and wins for $5K. I guess all of the big spenders in Minneapolis/St Paul didn’t know about the raffle, or who was the benefactor.
I didn’t say anything about it being “completely acceptable,” in case I needed to remind you.
However, Redmond’s not fast, and Blake knew it so he tried for 3 instead of just 2. And it was a fantastic play.
I know you don’t think defense counts, but there’s a reason they wear gloves and spend a lot of time practicing fielding. It does count.
What’s wrong with admitting that another team is capable of making a good play? And I don’t think it was Redmond’s “fault” that he hit into it.
He probably is ashamed about it, but I don’t think he should be.
By the way, Blake had to take two small steps to touch base, Redmond barely had dropped the bat.
Sean- I will disagree with you. I think Redmond should totally be disappointed by hitting into that. I agree a team can come up with a great defensive play, but at the same time I don’t think that triple play was turned nearly fast enough so that it wasn’t a bang bang play at first base. I don’t know if Red was thinking about his hand or what, but it should have been way closer than that.
On the bright side, DePaula pitched well.
Austin, yeah. We all know you think every one of our players should be superstars. But they’re not.
Redmond is slow. And he got beat by less than a step. Get over it.
Barker- And you are saying that is is acceptable that by the time Blake took 2 small steps and touched the third base bag, Redmond had barely let go of the bat. No that is called “time to pick up the plow”. Now I am not saying that at-bat is why we are going to lose the game tonight, but that certainly was a key situation and didn’t help us out any.
Sean- less than a step. He clearly got beat by a step and a half. What game are you watching?
Whatever Autism.
Dick and Bert even tried to give you a glimpse of it by showing a couple replays of it right now.
Good one, Bob Barker.
You probably think Bob Barker would have beaten it out too. He makes millions…
Every time I get my hopes up about seeing playoff baseball again, the Twins throw cold water on me with another dud.
Is anybody crying about Casey Blake getting away like they were with Big Papi?
Len- Actually I know you might have just came out from that rock you live under, but Bob Barker isn’t making anything these days. He is retired.
I’m watching the Cleveland broadcast, where they’ve shown it over 20 times. Including a few more at the end of the game.
I don’t understand how you’re seeing a step and a half there.
Either way, why are you so angry? Even if you somehow make it 94 feet to first base so he’s a step and a half away, do you still want to murder him in a public display of idiocy? Go back to New York or Boston where it’s okay to hate the players for not winning every single game.
Thanks for pointing that out to me Autism. I’m sure you both share the same soup line together. Dork.
I’m betting Punto starts at second tomorrow. Casilla appears to have some great tools, but I don’t think he is ready for the big leagues. Every game, there are two or three plays or non-plays that occur with Casilla involved. Today, the messed up DP, the positioning issue, and the missed force play. He also had a first pitch bunt out in the fourth inning, which troubles me the least. So far, for all of his range, Alexi had made few, if any really fine fielding plays. He has made misplays almost every game. Offensively, he just doesn’t get enough hits. I love his speed, but right now, that isn’t enough.
flatblade, as much as I hate to do it, I think I might have to agree about that. I really like Casilla, but I don’t know what they have to do to get his head in the game. He’s just been screwing up way too much.
Flatblade I agree. I think the kid will be a good player and has some great athleticism but if TR had really thought the Twins were in a pennant race he nevr would have traded Castillo. That is why I was so critical of the trade and got ripped on by some who said that the Twins would never miss Casilla and that he is better right now. I think it is good to get Casilla some playing time but still would rather of had Castillo and Casilla both on the team right now. Even if it meant letting Castillo walk for nothing in return.
I meant never miss Castillo.
Len and Sean, have fun together tonight.
I think flatblade has a good point.
Also, I think (believe?) younger players can benefit from sitting and watching at regular intervals. There is no thrill in Punto’s bat in the line-up, but if he is going to be there, maybe Buscher would do better than Casilla for a day.
Although Bartlett got the error in the first that was a terribly high and hard flip by Casilla. The kid seems to have one moment every game. Silva is such a head case. He gives up two 0-2 hits including a ringing 2-run double off the wall that put the game out of reach and then he wants to yell at his rookie second baseman? Give me a flippin’ break! The Cleveland commentators said that the Twins don’t play the shift on Hafner the way other teams do. Maybe we should start! I know Gardy wanted a good infield with a sinkerballer on the mound but this Punto thing has gone way too far! Let’s hope Boof and Johan bring their “A” games the next two nights.
Austin, if it were possible for everyone who disagreed with you to have fun together at the same time, world peace would be declared.
Oh yeah, the Tribe’s triple play reminded me of the two the Twins turned in the same season at New York and Boston..Gaetti to Teufel to Hrbek!
Sean, good one. Now start thinking of your next one that you can throw out on here tomorrow night. It should take you at least 20 hours to come up with somebody. By the way, nobody wants to visit your blog, so quit posting the link.
Yeah, I’m really, really slow. It takes me 20 hours to come up with things that might be considered “wit.”
But your quick grasp of humor has completely slammed me. I don’t even know what to say.
But how’s this?
Bye. I thought these blogs were a great idea, and used to be a lot of fun. I used to enjoy talking about baseball, and discussing the Twins with other fans who cared.
Now you can brag to all the other people who like to listen to you that you’ve driven me away. There’s nothing left on this blog that’s the least interesting, compelling, or fun. Thanks to you.
Good bye everyone. And Go Twins!
Sean, you won’t be missed.
Austin: Give your keyboard a break and go for a walk.
buff, thanks for the advice I will go for it.
Boy, The Tigers didn’t miss Sheffield tonight. 20 hits and 16-0 over the Yankees. If Sheffield is done for the year, will the Tigers regret getting rid of Craig Monroe?
Good bye to the 2007 season.
Yes Austin, give your keyboard a break and go for a wank.
LENIII
Can you ban austin? He just trolls and picks and trolls and picks
Its unbearable
Even the most open blogs have to be moderated
Jimmy Jam: Boy, that was quick. I know it will be a huge uphill climb but the Tribe come to the Dome next week for three and Cleveland still has a tough west coast trip to both Seattle and Anaheim. We have to win at least one in Cleveland or we will be toast. The Tigers are still strong but not as tough without Sheffield in the middle of the lineup.
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Just an aside…don’t remember if I mentioned it in my Matt Moses story…that article that he had highlighted over his locker was written by the Strib’s own John Millea for Baseball America.
I also posted the Twins that will be playing in the Arizona Fall League…seven players, all with ties to New Britain this year.
Just cuz the Twins are having a loser season doesn’t mean you all have to become losers too with all the bitching and a couple SOB’s thrown into the mix.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
The baseball gods have spoken:
“You will not have the batting champion this year. (Mauer will have repeated injuries).”
“You will not have a productive 3B this year. (You get Punto, or otherwise you will have injured 3rd basemen (Watkins, Cirillo, Buscher)).”
“You will not have the MVP this year. (Morneau will try too hard and beat himself, going into a mental funk).”
“You will not have a dandy bullpen anymore” (injuries will be given at just the right times to various bullpenners).”
“You will not have a power DH. (Injuries will be given to White and Kubel).”
“You will not address-and-correct any of your problems. (We will control TR’s mind and force him to do the opposite of what he should do).”
“Why are we doing this? Because there are too many self-righteous, crabby bloggers on the Strib forums. Yet, there is hope for you — if you snap out of it, maybe there’ll be another miracle like last year…….because we’re having our fun with Cleveland and Detroit too.”
“In the rumble-hiss game, we’ll always have the last word. And so far, the last word is Punto. So tough ta-ta’s to you.”
good one, romer.
Or maybe it’s just the humidity.
Or maybe it’s cuz LENIII had a bad day.
…and so did the Twins. You know the Tribe is a good team. They had their funk, but they have shown resiliency. They aren’t the Orioles who are like a runaway freight train going over the cliff. The Twins will be lucky to get a game in Cleveland because right now Cleveland is a confident team, and they are playing like one.
The Twins are just not consistent enough to overcome Detroit and Cleveland. It would take another incredible collapse by both to let this edition of the Twins into the playoffs. While I am doubtful it can happen, I hold out hope because you just never know in this game. I am a bit nervous to think that the possibility of winning 2 of 3 lies with Beef, er I mean Boof.
BTW, I agree with the Casilla chatter. I wonder if TR thought once he was up here, he would focus more. He has great skills, but you have to be able to play this game mentally too.
Like I said earlier, at this point I think making the playoffs with this current squad would be a bad thing, as it would send the message that this team can allegedly win the way it is.
I’d rather they miss the playoffs, thus demonstrating that they do in fact need help…still.
Yeah, that sounds a bit bitter. But looking at comments from various people following the Orioles series, suddenly the Tyners, Puntos, and Whites of the world were just the answers this team was looking for. When we know that’s not the case.
Now, that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t like to see them come back and take the series. I’m not rooting for them to lose, just don’t tink making the playoffs is the best thing right now.
I just had to log on to say that Jason Tyner is now a .290 hitter, and it this pace should be a .300 hitter by the end of the month.
I am really glad that Gardy keeps using him in LF, and has been using Kubel as DH. Kubel hits better as a DH, has less of a chance of getting hurt, and Tyner makes plays Kubel cannot.
Now if we could just do something with LNP.
buff…
I think you meant the year the Twins turned two triple plays in the same game! I believe the year was 1988 and it was Gaetti-Newman-Hrbek, against the Red Sox at Fenway.
I’m mostly with T about not making the playoffs.
EXCEPT the injuries at DH and, lately, at 3B have killed this team this year. And they hurt Reyes and Rincon (and Crain) too. Wouldn’t you want them those two pitchers and White to go on a tear and Buscher/Watkins to out-man Punto?
Then they’d deserve their post-season, right?
I don’t like seeing Tyner in left at all. He takes bad routes and has a poor arm. Kubel doesn’t have as much speed but is just as good an outfielder, plus he can throw.
That said, I think Tyner should be in the majors. He hits for no power, doesn’t walk much, but does get his hits. I am not sure if he has base stealing speed, but if Tyner continues to hit at or above the .290 mark, he should get his share of at-bats.
Kubel should be in the lineup close to every day. I would like to see him get another 100 at-bats and see where he finishes. He has a good swing and some needed power. I think he has proven that he is a decent outfielder.
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