Twins Notes, Lineups
Posted on March 11th, 2008 – 11:11 AMBy La Velle
I chatted up Joe Mauer before the game. His brother, Jake, told me over at the minor league complex a few days ago that his brother was talking about how this camp has been the best he’s felt during a spring training.
Joe downplayed it a little bit when I relayed what Jake said to him, but we both still knocked on wood afterward. He’s batting .357 with two doubles this spring.
Soon, Justin Morneau, Mike Redmond and Michael Cuddyer joined the discussion. Cuddyer is the union rep and Mike Redmond is his assistant. But Michael and Mike have employed Mauer and Morneau as associate reps. Their duties are to go to the mailbox and pass out documents. Now the M & M boys are looking to add their own assistants. Talk about passing the buck.
Then we started talking about bats. Morneau likes maple bats with thin handles. The others prefer ash bats with thicker handles. Cuddyer is in the middle of a ten-year contract with a certain bat maker and swings nothing else. Mike Redmond, who swings his bat like he’s playing cricket, doesn’t have a deal.
Mauer then handed me a couple bats. Morneau’s handle really is thin, but has a big barrel. I preferred Mauer’s because it felt more balanced and easier to swing.
I know. This is really, really deep stuff. But that was the mood in the clubhouse this morning….
Lineups:
Rays: 1. Elliot Johnson, 2B. 2. Willy Aybar, 3B. 3. Johnny Gomes, DH. 4. Eric Hinske, 1B. 5. Joel Guzman, LF. 6. John Rodriguez, CF. 7. Dioner Navarro, C. 8. Reid Brignac, SS. 9. Justin Riggiano, RF. Pitching: James Shields. I’m buying if you can pick the four everyday players out of this group of camp fodder.
Twins: 1. Span, CF. 2. Punto, 2B. 3. Young, LF. 4. Morneau, 1B. 5. Monroe, RF. 6. Kubel, DH. 7. Redmond, C. 8. Buscher, 3B. 9. Everett, SS. Pitching: Livan, then Perkins, Nathan, Rincon, Gomez and Cali.
206 Responses to "Twins Notes, Lineups"
thanks len3, any feelings on who may stick and who might be sent out? getting any vibes on what the final lineup may look like?
LNP in the 2-hole? I hope this doesn’t continue past March.
the four regulars:
Aybar, Gomes, Hinske, Navarro
Did I get it?
Aybar, Gomes, Navarro, Shields…am I close?
3, you need to have some MUSCLE to swing the thin-handled, big barrel.
LaVelle. Does Span got a shot to make this team? I can’t see them not bringing at least one part of the Santana trade north. Either Humber or Gomez.
gomes, navarro, hinske and shields are my guess. it wont be aybar at 3B because it will be longoria.
I don’t think a pitcher counts as an everyday player.
Gomes, Hinske, Guzman, Navarro. Of course, I’m only going on what my new copy of MLB 08 The Show is telling me about some of these guys.
yea…i guess it could be guzman. they did get rid of dukes and young in their outfield. crawford played left last year, either he is moving to right or guzman is just playing LF today and normally he will be in right.
Well the still have Crawford, Upton, and Baldelli in the outfield. According the the Rays website Gomes is the backup at all outfield positions. I think this is just a trick question. Or LEN3 is considering the top utility guy as ‘everyday.’
Gomes, Guzman, Navarro, Shields.
I’ll take Grain Belt Premium, I’m easy.
c-navarro
1B-Pena
2B-Iwamura (sp?)
SS-Bartlett
3B-Longoria
LF-Crawford (or RF)
CF-Upton
RF-??? (could be Guzman, Hinske, or Gomes)
DH-Gomes/Hinske
I think those are the regulars, so it they are definitely pushing the limit of at least four regulars on a road trip.
shoot tomjh, you’re right - ne’r mind. If I have to come up with a 4th out of the rest of that group, God help the Rays.
i forgot about baldelli…probably because he is always injured, but justin is right, he is on the team.
It’s march, and I see Punto in a starting lineup and I cringe.
I see Punto and span at the top of the line up, and I think 35 shutouts against the twins in 2008
monroe makes diving catch nice play
livan has 123 inning
Joe is reporting that the Twins are leaning toward having Livan start the opener. I think this is about the worst idea I have seen. Just curious what you guys think.
Iwould rather see one of the Twins young pitchers get the start. Why not Liriano?
jama: OMG! Maybe it’s a joke.
I actually came here to see what Jeff had to say about any coverage of Joe M. Very disappointing not to see his point of view, as it hasn’t been clear up to now.
unless you’re torii, then it’s a great idea, ugghh. might be a long year. c’mon gardy get a clue. thanks for the updates t4life
im ok with the veteran opening the season…may be better than putting all the pressure of that day on one of the youngsters….2nd i think boof should be considered also…
livan piching the opener is another reason to believe that punto will be an everyday player and the twins will be under .500 with this idiot managing!!
Of course Mornie uses a maple bat. He’s from fricken Canada after all.
Livan is here, I’m moving over.
span leadoff double, stranded there, but looks like gomez is fading fast. i was thinking pridie at the start of camp but maybe span will take advantage of the competition in center]??
La Velle,
I saw the note about Randy Ruiz in the paper. Could he make this team? Does he say anything regarding his past steroid problems? He’s hitting pretty well this spring.
twins fan..i just wonder who you would leave off this roster to accomadate ruiz, who has had an awesome spring, but doesnt have a position…
LNP in the 2-hole? I hope this doesn’t continue past March.
If Gardy’s trying to build a lineup, he needs to see how guys hit in certain parts of hte order. Since Mauer’s not playing today and Redmond’s not the #2 hitter type, he had to put Punto in there so he could have Young and Morneau where he wants to try them (3 and 4 respectively)
Look at the rest of the lineup to see more examples. Kubel’s batting 6th with Monroe 5th (they won’t be hitting in front of Morneau) same with Buscher. And Everett is right where he’d belong (provided they don’t start Gomez ninth going into the season)
wouldnt u know livan struggling again tampa leads 2-0
today is exactly why punto should not be in the 2 whole. leadoff double, punto comes up and can’t make even a positive out to get the runner to third w/ 1 out. just happened too many times w/ him last year. how many times could he not get a flippin’ bunt down to advance the runner. if gardy insists on playing small ball then he’s got to plug in the right personnel to get it done
anybody have the game live to provide a play by play, like yesterday?? I forgot who the poster was already.
mj1 hooked us up yesterday , and thanks btw.
rays lead 2 nothin after one
everett lead off third with single span just hit into double play
leave me alone! i know im fat! i know im ugly! just leave me alone! mommy!!
i meant two nothing after top of third punto grounds out to third two nothing tampa after three
Punto hitting .083 this spring, much improved from 2007.
punto grounds out to third two nothing tampa after three
one hopper to mourneau one down
Span was hosed on a close play at first.
Punt0: 1 for 13 this spring.
Ruiz: No shot at making the team.
CF battle should be up for grabs still, but they may give it to Gomez anyway.
Blackburn looking good for a rotation spot. Perkins, Slowey need to step up. Humber not bad.
IMO, there’s no way Everett and Punto can hit in the same lineup.
do we need some help with play by play today also…game is on twins radio- but have to subscribe to mlb…i can help if ya like again….
if the mendoza line is .200 and punto is hitting below .100 what is the name of that line? dirty pixs of gardy line?
on a high note livan has his era down to 9
3 up and 3 down for hernandez in 4th
hernandez has gave up two runs on three hits
2-0 going into b of 4
young weak ground out to 1st 1 out
morneau up
morneau another grounder 3-1 2 out
monroe up
thanks la velle i hope blackburn gets a spot
A group of fans from 2006 have just been unfrozen. They are chanting, `MVP, `MVP’ as No. 33 gets in the box…
monroe singles…2nd hit of the day
buscher up
busher flys out to deep left 3 out
Hey mj1 - I liked your play-by-play yesterday. Maybe you can take over while LN3 heads to the snack bar to buy our beers!
mj1, unless there’s a scoring play just go by the half-inning. You don’t have to wear yourself out that way…
top of 5th … perkins now pitching to #9 hitter
You guys aren’t even close on the four T.B. regulars.
perkins ks the first hitter …
haha
nice la velle
If he wasn’t such a good utility infielder Punto wouldn’t even be a AA player, I was hoping when Rod Carew got ahold of him he could teach him how to bunt. You have to do the little things if you don’t hit for average in the major leagues.
infield single … 1 on 1 out
I know spring training is a time to work on things, work on some line-up possibilities, see how people respond to certain spots in the line-up…but seriously…Punto hitting second in spring training??? Didn’t the Twins learn ANYTHING last year??? No average. No productive outs. No anything. My head hurts thinking about it. Please someone tell me that Punto has 0.0% chance to start at second base on opening day.
“Regulars”
Shields
Navarro
Gomes
Others are playing for spots. Maybe the LF. Riggiano IMO is better than Cliff DL Floyd. Still don’t know why they brought him along.
runner steals 2nd
AJ,
Harris is not exactly lighting up the world at second base, so it would be easier for the manager to have Punto in there with his horrid offense.
I agree LaVelle, that Everett and Punto in the same lineup isn’t a good idea…but you know it’ll happen…probably a lot.
“gotta have that D up the middle” you know.
weak single …runs scores and hitter gets put out in rundown following the run scoring…2 out noone on
AJ - you are precisely correct. Punt”0″ is the most incomplete package on the team. He has a “capable” glove and that’s it. He has nothing more to offer.
single to left ..
If punto gets a starting spot it will be the lesser of other evils. I saw alot of sub-par defense from the other candidates last week in fl. IF (big IF) puntos bat woke up, he’d be a lock given defense.
runner on 1st advances on wild pitch
Does Punto have any options left?
I think that he had 4 call ups in Philly and his minor league stints with the Twins were for rehab. If I am counting correctly, he should have at least one option left.
He just doesn’t belong in the majors at this point…
perkins struggling
ground out to punto… 3-2 bottom of 5
gobble,
The Punto line
bottom of 5th
reddog leads off…
grounds out to ss
thrylos98
2.4 million dollars says Punto will be at the ML level, deserving or not.
buscher flys out to cf 2 out and everett up
everett flys out to cf …shields stil pitching for tb …great outing for him..
top of 6th…perkins in for 2nd inning
guzman up
guzman pops out .. . 1 out
twins bats are sure weak again today…
nice pplay by buscher 2 out…
navarro goes deep off perkins..solo hr
sorry …no back back back back back here….
flyout to end inning….
Gomes, Aybar, Brignac, Navarro
top of 6th….new pitcher for tb
span leads off …punto and young to follow
span grounds out 1 out
punto 0-2 on the day…
punto draws a walk 1 on 1 out
Punto, Harris, or Casilla at 2B with 19 days left in ST.
Pick your poison.
young flys out ….
watkins running for punto…
morneau now hitting
When is Buscher going to get some time at 2B?
morneau 0-2 today
I’m voting for Casilla, and bat him 9th.
gladden and gordon pissed off at yankees for agreeing to sign billy crystal for one day…think its a joke …i have to agree with them on that…surprised mlb okd it…
morneau still fouling them off
morneau walks ..bascik running for morneau
Pridie, CF
Mauer, C
Cuddyer, RF
Morneau, 1B
Young, LF
Kubel/Monroe, DH
Lamb, 3B
Everett, SS
Casilla, 2B
Move Young up to 3rd after a month or two.
LENIII, how many days would Gomez need to be down in the minors for the Twins to retain control of him for an extra year? I’m thinking he’ll need two months or so to save them a year of service time.
inning ended..not sure what the hell happened…had a distraction here..sorry…
Why are they pissed? This is a game, after all. And its spring training. I’m sure the Yankees are more thrilled than Crystal.
Actually the regulars might be:
Aybar, Gomes, Navarro and Rodriguez.
mj1 got distracted? Did you get a pnone #?
nathan now on for the twins…
bascik in for morneau…jones in lf pridie in cf and knott in rt
leadoff hitter ks 1 out called str
2nd hitter flys to deep cf
Aybar in front of Longoria only if Eva gets sent to AAA.
3-2 pitch flys out to jones in left…nice inning for nathan….
am…they think its messing with the integrity of the game….gladden said if he was pitching ..hed hit him …lol…
bottom of 7th kubel leads off
kubel 0-1 and a walk thus far
I’m not saying they will be the Rays everyday hitters, just who the team declared regulars for the purpose of the game.
We all saw Punto’s average was a weak .210 last year. That is obviously very concerning, but what is even more concerning is his swing. It’s not good. I’m surprised he even hit .210 with that swing. His front foot pulls towards first base, and he opens his hips terribly. When that happens, you’re going to see a lot of weak choppy grounders and shallow pop flies to the outfield. Now if I can see that, why can’t coaches see that and help the poor guy, and if he can’t be helped, why bat the poor guy? Defense is fine, but not when the team doesn’t average a lot of runs. Sorry to keep beating the drum, but it’s really confusing. And I’ve seen Harris swing. His fundamentals are there. Punto has no fundamentals in his swing.
kubel flys to fairly deep cf
reddog 0-2 up
grounds out to first unassisted
buscher up..bounces out to 3rd…damn easy inning…twins cant hit nothin…
top of 8th and longoria up facing rincon…..only one inning for nathan 1,2.3 whiteside now catching’
longoria homers off the cf scoreboard -
2nd hitter lines out to knott in rf
called 3rd strike….2 out top of 8th
What’s the score mj1? Thanks for the update!
5-0 tb
Re: Punto
I’d be happy with weak grounders. His strikeouts are most concerning to me. Not too many regular middle infielders with no power strikeout 20 percent of the time. I agree on his lack of fundamentals, which aren’t just about hitting, but base running and footwork in the field. It’s always puzzled me that he’s never been coached to do things the right way. What ever happened to the “Twins way”? If I’m a player from another organization and I see him start game after game with little or no attention to fundamentals, I conclude that Twins players can do whatever they want.
twins bats on strike
I know it’s spring training, but come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can anybody get a hit????????????
grounds out 1-3 5-0 bottom of 8th coming up
new pitcher for tb …korean name
everett leading off…
everett drops one into cf for hit….pridie up
tolbert running for everett
pridie lines one into cf …tolbert safe at 3rd…runners on 1-3
watkins up -
santana is in the twins clubhouse today…
watkins pops to 2nd base
garrett jones up for delmon young 1 out men on 1-3
what do they do with g jones with no options left…big decision to be made on this guy…
called 3rd strike….bascik up now with 2 out
bascik drops one into r for a hit and rbi…. 5-1
knott up to the plate
Jones will the the power lefty off the bench 
Last gasp…Gomes, Navarro, Hinske, Rodriguez
seems like everything knott hits is hit very hard …even ground outs - the man just hits the ball damn hard
santana in the twins clubhouse would explain the lack of hits today, looks alot like last year while he was ours. GO AWAY! lol
wp…runner on 1st moves up
knott called 3rd strike with 2 on….end of inning….5-1 tb to the 9th
LEN3, do you think the club will carry 11 or 12 pitchers when they come up north?
justin…gardy said the other day they would more than likely carry 12 and just 2 catchers….that leaves only 11 position players…..
mariano gomez pitching for twins…left hander ..
1st hitter gets a base hit to left
liriano pitching tomorrow…
gotta be flexible, playing multiple positions for those bench jobs, doesn’t matter if you can hit or not…
next hitter ks one on and one out
Hinske is not going to start for the Rays.
I’ll go with
Navarro(C), Gomes(DH), Aybar(3B) and Shields(#2 SP) if he counts as a pitcher. Nobody else is a starter according to everything I’ve seen.
2r homerun for johnson… now 7-1 1 out
flyout to left 2 out
longoria up again…homered last time
ground out to 2nd ….end of inning…bottom of 9th coming up
So who does everyone is going to get that last spot?
C: Mauer, Redmond
1B: Morneau
2B: Harris
SS: Everett
3B: Lamb
Util: Punto (unfortunately)
OF: Young, Cuddyer, Gomez, Kubel, and Monroe
This leaves one spot for Buscher, Jones, and Casilla…
I don’t think it’ll be Casilla, but not sure who I’d keep out of the other two. Buscher is more versatile in the field, but Jones has the ‘power’ off the bench.
i would give it to buscher…i think the twins should try and trade g. jones as i dont ever see him cracking this lineup….we should be able to get a pretty decent prospect for him..someone must need some power, especially left handed
Buscher stinks at the plate. Jones is out of options, probably the front runner. Casilla will probably be at AAA, and Basak the other candidate.
Keeping Monroe and Kubel locks 2 of the 3 CF guys into AAA.
turn out the lites the partys over…..
kubel grounds out… 1 out…
just my don meredith imitation…
you will have either monroe or kubel first off the bench depending on l/r pitching. they both have enough pop to come in in the late inning power situation. i believe it to be buscher with his performance so far this spring.i think the only way they bring jones north is that they realize he’s not going to pass through waivers and feel they can’t afford to lose him?
whiteside fouls out… 2 out
How can Buscher’s .222 “performance” make him the front runner?
I am not impressed.
macri lines out to end this mess…
final score…7 - 1 tampa bay….
thanks for coming and drive home safely
by buschers performance i mean hes versatile, not that he’s running away with the spot. batting .250 isn’t winning me over
funkytown beat me to it…lol…point well taken
Basak is versatile too, and can also play the OF….
they may not even take gomez north so jones and buscher could go…
Basak .333 now with a homer and 4 rbi’s
Buscher .222 witha solo homer. All or nothing, mostly Nothing, with Buscher.
Hat’s off to mj1 for the play-by-play again today (even if the game sucked)
Thanks!
mj1,
Even if it’s not Gomez, it’ll be one of the 3, so Jones and Buscher won’t go.
Unless they dump Monroe’s salary.
He’s been one of the few bright spots of late.
If they choose to go with none of Pridie/Gomez/Span, then someone is going to have to start playing CF real soon.
obviously 2 of our cf’ers will not be making the club. do they flip back and forth, starting every other game in AAA or how do you suppose that works out? somebody drops to AA?
I wish I had said that.
this site is going to get pretty active as were down to 2 weeks plus til opening nite…lots of decisions to be made..should be alot of fun and everyones ideas will be put out here…just hope everyone stays healthy so injuries dont enter in, and lets see what gardy and andy can put together….
I don’t think they need the versatility of someone like Basak, outfield is the one position that they have a little depth. They really need someone who can come off the bench and get a hit in crunch time when Everett or Punto are playing.
Justin,
Get a hit in crunch time…like who??
someone will break out in front on that cf spot in the next 2 weeks…my thought is span and pridie will both play….hell, maybe monroe will jump in there….i love monroes bat and think hes going to be big this year wherever he plays for the twins…..
thanks again mj1 for the play by play, gotta get later all
Twins are slumpin’ a bit. No biggie.
Franchise tomorrow.
thanks guys, gotta run for awhile also…have fun……
Whoever said that Jones would bring back a pretty good prospect is crazy. He is out of options and the team that wants him could just wait until he is placed on waivers. There is no way they would get more than an Low A prospect.
Buscher is now hitting .222 and DROPPING(to AAA?).
Everett is at .286; Basak .333; Pridie .304; Monroe .375
Funky, I know there aren’t really any crunch time guys to chose from, but the chances of Everett or Punto getting an extra base hit, or even a single are much less that Buscher or Jones in my opinion.
I think that we should be looking east, for that Roberts guy at 2b. for the yrar, trade some of these dead-wood folks, that we have that we have right now, even LNP, And I,am a punto fan,
I’m sure the Orioles would take Punto for Roberts no problem. I’m thinking at this point a box of brand new baseballs is worth more than Punto in a trade.
Yeah trading for Roberts is probably out of the question. The O’s would probably ask for Gomez and one of the young pitchers (i.e. Slowey or Humber). Not going to happen. The Cubs have much more to offer than the Twins do.
I thank that we could put togather a good package if we want to,,I know it would be a good pitcher at least,,, but we don,t really have anybody good at 2b yet,
I’m waiting for Gardy.
LNP batting .077 this spring…and we thought 2007 was bad…
What a great feature that was by Souhan a couple weeks ago on how LNP is striving for the 2nd base job, and perhaps even the leadoff spot…and his struggles last year (which Souhan homerishly called a ’slump’) was due to nagging aches and pains.
Bottom line: If Gardy wasn’t so in love with him, he’d be in serious danger of not making the roster.
No he is on the club because he is owed about $2.4 mil this year. The twins also love gamers like Redmond and Punto. I am not going to lie I think that his 06 season was an anomally but I think that he is a tremendous asset as a utility infielder. He is gold glove caliber at three spots in the infield and provides great pinch running speed off the bench. I can’t really think of a utility infield guy I would rather have other than maybe Macier Izturis.
So not being able to get on base or bunt doesn’t bother you, apparently?
That said, he has absolutely no place in a starting lineup. With his complete lack of power that only way he should be a starter is if he can be a consistent .300+ hitter, which he has clearly proven he can’t be. I don’t blame Gardy though because Punto is one of my favorite Twins too. It would be nice to see Mauer leave his heart out there on the field once and a while like Punto does on every play.
Also one more thing, Mr. Young is going to be an absolute stud. We are going to look at this trade maybe even as early as this year and rank right below the Pierzynski trade. If he keeps his head on right he will easily become a .300 30 110 type guy. I liked Garza’s potential and I think he will be an above average #3 starter in the bigs, but this guy is going to be a perennial all-star. If Gomez can develop all that talent he has and if Liriano can be close to the pre surgery Liriano, this team still has a ton of talent. Probably the best young talent this side of the Rays and the Dodgers.
Man you guys are rough on Punto. He still plays great defense and is very fast on the bases. Yeah he can’t hit, but that was true of like our whole team a few years ago. You get the feeling that he would break his arm if it meant winning a playoff game and that is a real baseball player. I guarantee his teammates respect the hell out of Nicky and have his back as he tries to get his swing back (or learn how to hit all together, okay that was a cheap shot) and contribute to the team.
What do people think, would you take Ellsbury or Gomez? Think short term like the next three years before arbitration kicks in. Then think long term from about years 3-8. I really think this guy is going to be better than Ellsbury. Ellsbury is a better pure hitter with more patientence, but Gomez is better at just about everything else. Ellsbury doesn’t have the physical potential to steal 80 bases and hit 20 home runs. He may hit .325 but he is not going to hit more than 10 home runs and steal about 40 bases.
Punto might be fast, but he’s not smart. He’s about a 70% base stealer for his career. And his career high for steals in a season is 17. However he contributes, I hope it’s from the bench. He’s a great cheerleader, but he’s below average at most other aspects of the game.
maybe the Sox and Twins will still hook up for Coco Crisp.
Punto not smart? He’s a freakin idiot. He’s brain dead. Sliding into first? You slide to avoid a tag. It slows you down. Stupid, stupid, stupid. And the Twins offensive ineptitude is entirely his fault. Get rid of Punto and the team starts averaging 9.63 runs per game. Hee hee.
Please Twins fans, lets not take spring training averages too seriously. I would say that the battle is on now or maybe yesterday for second, center, and the 25th man. The first 10-12 games are just prologue. We should look at who is playing the best from now forward.
LEN3
Just to add a bit to your bats story. There’s a rep here for a bat called b45. Last season was the first for them, and they were the 23rd bat company allowed by MLB. Some of the guys tried them last season. This year, the reps had better luck. Mauer’s agreed to try. A little side note is Joe thought he was swinging a 32 oz, but it was only 30.8 oz. These b45’s are yellow birch and don’t break as often. Morneau also has agreed to try them, but the first batch he got, the knob wasn’t big enough. Today, the rep brought in a box of them for Young. I’ll have to watch to see if any of them use the b45 in practice or the games. Joe Benson is using one down the other end. I’ve got one in my vehicle, just thought they were cool, so bought on. Wanna aign it for me?
They can’t possibly keep Punto on this tea, even if he does make Morneau his slushes. I would much rather keep Tolbert. I don’t understand the fascination with Punto and his upper cut swing.
Punto always gives it the old college effort.The only problem is, this isn’t college!
Punto has the same type of pictures on Gardenhire that Kevin McHale has on Glen Taylor.
That is how they keep their jobs. It has nothing to do with talent.
McHale is a cancer, and Punto is just diseased.
Last Sept, Gardy announced 2B was Punto’s to lose, thus quelling the uprising of fans rooting for Casilla.
The Twins then trade for Harris, thus quelling the uprising of fans rooting for Casilla.
Now Tolbert, Buscher, and Harris are batting about .200.
2 bits that Casilla starts in AAA and the Twins shove whoever they choose at 2B down our throats.
But I’m getting ready to regurgitate…..
Whoever said that Jones would bring back a pretty good prospect is crazy.
I’ve noticed it’s a very common practice to overvalue one’s own players in trade talks.
Like people who were convinced the Twins could wrestle both Lester and Ellsbury away from Boston by “throwing in” a guy like Span or Rincon (or any player a particular fan doesn’t like for whatever reason)
This play by play thing is annoying.
T- good point on the Span/Rincon comment.
Yeah, you usually do over hype your own players, but we WERE talking about Johan Santana (akaTBPiB).
Off topic, but you’ll thank me for it! Clay Buchholz’s new girl:
http://mlbfleecefactor.com/2008/03/13/clay-buchholz-has-a-new-pet/
ha. clay’s cashing in his chips, i see.
slightly less interesting, but in the article below that one, it says selig makes $15M per year. that infuriates me!
