Rochester’s Rotation? How About The Rest of the System?
Posted on April 1st, 2008 – 7:24 PMBy La Velle
I just chatted with Twins pitching coach Rick Anderson. We got on the subject of arms in the farm system, and he spoke highly of the depth of arms the organization now has.
“There’s nothing wrong with backing up some of these guys,” he said.
The Twins have had no choice but to hold some guys back because of a numbers crunch at the top levels. I wouldn’t get too wound up over that because all it takes is an injury or a poor start for players to start moving up and down the chain.
Joe C. reported in today’s editions that Class AAA Rochester’s rotation will be righthanders Philip Humber, Kevin Mulvey and Heath Totten and lefthanders Glen Perkins and Brian Duensing.
That got me thinking….what about the other clubs?
Here are the the rotations at each level:
Class AA New Britain
LHP Ryan Mullins
RHP Jay Rainville
RHP Oswaldo Sosa
RHP Anthony Swarzak
LHP Jason Miller
Class A Fort Myers
LHP Fransisco Liriano
RHP Jeff Manship
RHP Deolis Guerra
LHP Tyler Robertson
RHP Alex Burnett
Class A Beloit
RHP Mike McCardell
RHP David Bromberg
RHP Danny Berlind
LHP Steven Tarsi
RHP Brian Kirwan
Notes: RHP Cole Devries will replace Liriano at Fort Myers.
RHP Matt Fox is in the bullpen at Fort Myers.
RHP Kyle Waldrop is on the disabled list with a shoulder injury.
I am still tabulating the picks to click voting but hope to have it completed by tomorrow.
111 Responses to "Rochester’s Rotation? How About The Rest of the System?"
Perhaps, Boof can be exchanged for Humber.
I don’t know much about Totten. Please inform me as to why he made the rotation in AAA and Mullins was sent to AA?
I would have thought Manship had done enough to get to go to AA as well.
just drooling over the possible rotation of Franciso Liriano, Deolis Guerra, Kevin Slowey, Nick Blackburn, and Scott Baker/Boof Bonser…in 4 or 5 years…
What happened to the following
Yohan Pino… are they making him a closer?
Dave Gassner
Jeremy Cummings
Jesse Floyd
Josh Hill
Zachary Ward
Michael Allen
Jose Castillo
Henry Reyes
Liam Hendricks
Winston Marquez
Santos Arias
Those were all starting pitchers in the organization last year, and a few of them were outstanding last year.
Can players be in Rookie league two years?
Hotstuff
Liriano
Guerra
Swarzack
Robertson
Manship
Those other guys will most likely be gone in about 4 years… It’s just Twins economics.
Gassner was released in the off-season.
thanks Marcus
Josh Hill - Rule V Minor league loss.
Floyd, Cummings, Gassner - released.
Ward (and several others) - bullpen.
La Velle, any word on lingering flu?
Thank you Sane
Those kids in A, and Rookie Ball had fantastic seasons last year so I was hoping that they could either be used in Rookie ball again, or that they were being transitioned into relievers.
Do you know anything specific on Pino? He was one of our Phenoms going into last year.
BC,
Check minorleaguebaseball.com
Select team (rochester, new britain, etc.)
click on roster
BC,
Pino is in New Britain bullpen.
He struggled a bit last year.
Isn’t that Sickel’s page? I didn’t even notice a roster section that was set up for 2008 yet… thanks.
Ok, not sickel’s page, the MLB minor page… got it. Checked up on this Heath Totten guy. He’s 30, or just about 30, and he had a Nick Punto-Juan Rincon kind of season last year… a true “plays the game the Gardenhire way” kind of pitcher
Minor League stats with the phillies last year
3-10 20G 17GS 0Svs 89.0IP 110H 51R 47ER 3HR 24B 42Ks 4.75 ERA
lineup in 2010,
liriano
baker
guerra
blackburn
robertson
BC,
That is why the Twins wouldn’t take RA Dickey back from the Mariners.
They had to save a spot in AAA for Heath Totten.
Heath Totten and Jair Fernandez will disappear like f-rts in the wind while RA Dickey is throwing knuckleballs for the Mariners in the Big Leagues.
Idiots!
I just can’t understand any reason to keep get Totten. I didn’t bother to pay attention, but apparently Zach Day decided to test free agency.
Oh well, The Twins have a ton of talented pitchers. I still think making a couple of those starters into closers would be a wise investment.
The Twins have great pitching depth as always. Guerra will be a monster in a few years and Liriano is about to prove he’s the real deal in the MLB again.
2010 Rotation
Liriano
Baker
Slowey
Swarzack
Rainville
Toten is probably a placeholder for Blackburn, once Liriano comes up…
Day is recovering from injury and is in extended ST.
I don’t understand why Jason Miller is pitching as a starter in AA. There are other viable candidates.Like Ward and Kyle Aselton.
Our A rotation is better than a few MLB rotations.
The Twins were holding a spot for Dickey butn the front office decided to take Fernandez instead.
Totten was a winter ball find, recommended by Stan and Stu Cliburn.
I would be willing to be that at least three of the names that have been projected for the 2010 rotation are no where near the rotation in 2010.
I think some of the philosophy in the minor league organization has changed. In the past, they pushed guys ahead whether they were ready or not (Moses, Plouffe, etc.). I think that they have a LOT of players throughout the system that could start where they finished, spend a couple of months developing, adding confidence, getting off to a good start, and then move them up to the next level. Big picture, a couple of months isn’t a bit deal, and in fact, it could be beneficial.
That Ft. Myers rotation is impressive. Guerra spent all of last year in the FSL. Manship ended up there. The Twins could have pushed them both up, but what’s the purpose? What’s the rush? Let them develop and move them up when they are fully ready. There is enough depth at AAA that the guys below that don’t need to move up until the organization is certain.
LaVelle,
“The Twins were holding a spot for Dickey butn the front office decided to take Fernandez instead”
In the words of Jay Leno, “what the hell were they thinking?”
Is it possible to ask the Twins FO that question? Or are we dealing with a matter of National security?
who’s most likely to take buffets spot?
I think the twins have some kind of an aversion to knuckleball pitchers… Maybe they don’t approve of the mechanics or whatever. When was the last time the Twins had a prominent knuckleball starter? Joe Niekro like 20+ years ago?
there aren’t many teams that have had a prominent knuckleball starter in the last 20 years. barely anyone throws that pitch anymore.
True that. I just can’t figure out why they would have let Dickey go over some of these other guys that clearly don’t have a lot of upside.
i don’t understand why everyone wanted dickey in the twins system anyway. he’s a 33 year old with a career era of 5.72 and a WHIP of 1.568. is that the kind of pitcher we want stealing innings from our good young pitchers?
Logjams are possible if we sign 30 year old retreads like Totten to take a AAA starting position. That’s the real story, if anyone can explain it.
i don’t understand totten either, looking at his numbers he pitched pretty well at all levels until he gets to AAA, where he gets shelled.
The twins don’t teach the Knuckeball or the splitter…it’s been that way for quite a while.
I didn’t know he was THAT old… well that helps to explain that decision, although knuckleball pitchers can do it forever. At any rate, the novelty of it would be more interesting than seeing another Travis Bowyer or whoever shuffled through the system.
Is there a box score link on the game recap article? I can’t find it.
Let me summarize the game recap–
The twins pitched like crap to a good baseball team. Jon Garland continues to confuse the crap out of twins hitters.
he definitely would be more fun to watch than some of those guys. if they would have kept him, i would have liked to see him as our long reliever on the Twins. especially if they are really that worried about the young rotation wearing out the bullpen.
is any one getting concerned about the way morneau looks? he looks as lost as punto!
Morneau always starts out a little slow. I’m not too worried about it yet.
To be fair, Garland does have a losing record against the twins, although this really isn’t the same team.
i wouldn’t worry about a couple games, but if he continues to look that bad for a while then he might be having some problems from getting hit on the head so many times last year.
i hope it doesn’t turn out like last year where we would lose to any pitcher that was terrible, going through a really bad stretch or making his MLB debut.
“Morneau always starts out a little slow.”
He finished badly last year.
Maybe this year he will start out slow and then taper off.
I was a bit concerned about Justin but when i saw that big Papi hasn’t got a hit yet either i decided to relax.
My concern with Morneau is not that he hasn’t gotten a hit the first two games.
My concern is whether his slump in July, August, September and March is continuing into April?
let’s hope not. he didn’t look good at the plate, but baseball is more of a mental game than any other sport and it is also a sport where the best players go through multiple slumps in a season. 2 games is nothing to worry about, we all know he can hit. if his slump from last year is carrying over, then i seriously think that he might have some effects from getting hit on the head. he had a concussion in 2005 and i believe he got hit on the head twice last year, right? i hope he doesn’t have the Koskie.
Post-Concussion Syndrome symptoms are difficult to hide. I doubt if that is the problem.
His swing is the problem.
IMO he needs to stay on the ball longer by driving the ball to left or up the middle.
If he gets jammed as a result - live with it. At least he will be correcting his pulling off the ball problem which is currently ruining his swing.
i wasn’t able to watch more than a couple games last year since i am out of state, was his swing that bad? if he was trying to pull everything last year then i wouldn’t doubt that the homerun derby had something to do with it. although i doubt that would carry over into this season.
I think if I had played last night we would have won.
He did look like he was swinging down on the ball just like his practice swings. Why doesn’t everyone just try to mimmick Mauers swing.
His swing isn’t ugly unless the pitch is on or slightly off the outside corner.
If a hitter is not committed to hit a pitch in that zone, he has problems with it, and that is where pitchers will pitch him.
Like most power hitters, he HATES to get jammed, and but to fix the problem, a hitter must accept the fact that getting jammed will happen sometimes.
last year the day of the home run derby I posted here that I hoped it did not cause any issues with his swing and I was informed that NEVER happens and that I was an idiot!
where is ben revere starting the season at.
i wouldn’t have called charliemurphy an idiot for that.
BC,
Imitating swings is easy when taking dry swings. (no ball)
It is NOT easy when reacting to unexpected pitches in unexpected locations with unexpected velocities and unexpected movement.
Muscle memory (often flawed) takes over and your Joe Mauer imitation disappears.
I mentioned how great Bobby Abrea had hit since he was in the home run derby and hoped Mornoe would not end up screwing up his swing. I hope he starts to hit better this year and it is a non issue
Too bad the Twins don’t have pitching depth at the MAJOR LEAUGE level….
Travis,
Ben Revere is starting in extended spring training at Fort Myers.
I think the plan is to send him to Low A Beloit WHEN (hopefully, not if) Chris Parmelee or Joe Benson get promoted from Beloit to the High A Fort Myers Miracle.
Sane have you heard anything about Parmelee i read on Twins wed site that he had hit 4 hr’s in his first three games but nothing more.
On the knuckleballer Dickey’s age issue. I recall reading that he fairly recently took up the pitch to jumpstart his stagnant carreer. Taught by Charlie Hough. Our resident expert Sane would have a better opinion on this, but I think the reason they are so rare in the big leagues is that they are extremely difficult to catch. This causes trouble with men on base. This causes teams to sometimes carry a specialist catcher ala Boston’s Mirabelli. I may be wrong but I can’t remember even one knuckleballer who was a reliever. They’re all starters. Plus could Anderson coach this pitch?
I’m interested in hearing Sane weigh in on this.
Sane?
You still here?
the following is from news on the New Britain site. A great article RHP Yohan Pino – In three professional seasons with the Twins, Pino has put up incredible numbers (29-11, 2.87 ERA, 267 K/59 BB). The 2007 season was no different, in which Pino began the season with Ft. Myers and went 4-3 with an eye-popping 1.73 ERA, 64 K/17 BB ratio, and 0.95 WHIP in 19 games. In 67.2 innings of work, he limited opponents to a .192 average. The highlight of his superb 2007 season came on June 30, when he fired a no-hitter with the Miracle. He earned a promotion to New Britain in second half. The 6’3”, 158-lb. native of Venezuela looks to improve on his numbers from his first stint in the Eastern League (2-4, 5.13, 47.1 IP). The 24-year-old did post an impressive 40 K/9 BB ratio with the Rock Cats. Pino begins the season as a starter.
BC,
Beloit season starts Thursday.
If Parmelee had hits, it was still ST.
Paul,
Hoyt Wilhelm was a long-time knuckleball reliever.
They are seldom closers because of frequent passed balls.
They give up stolen bases because the catcher has problems with the catch-throw process when catching a knuckler.
As a starter or long reliever, they are great because they are hard to hit (or bunt) against and one run won’t kill you as it would in a closer situation.
Thursday;
Roch game starts at 3pm CDT
New Britain 6pm cdt
FM 6pm CDT
Beloit 6:30pm CDT
Wilhelm pitched 21 years in MLB (ERA=2.52=Hall of Fame), so age isn’t a factor. In fact, there are few YOUNG knuckleballers because they are mostly older pitchers who have lost their fastballs and saved their careers by developing the knuckler.
Also, Anderson wouldn’t have to coach the pitch.
Knuckleballers have their own club (cult?) which crosses team boundaries.
They coach each other.
Plus every team has non-pitchers who screw around with the knuckler and some of those guys have great movement on the pitch.
When I caught, every damn infielder/outfielder on the team wanted to play catch to show me what a great knuckler they had.
i think that pride has something to do with it too. guys don’t want to be known for throwing a 60 mph pitch, they want to throw 90+. i have had a few teammates that could throw nasty knuckleballs, but they never threw them in a game because they didn’t trust the pitch. you never know where it is going and if it doesn’t move, it’s just like batting practice.
One of the only recent knucleballers to be successful year after year is Wakefield. Wakefield started his career as a mediocre corner IF. He was told he never go above the minors so in his second year in the minors he experimented with the pitch. Within 2 years he was dominating Double-A with the pitch. In 1992, his 5th year in the minors and 3rd full season as a pitcher, he dominated Triple-A with 6 CG’s out of 10 by July 31st. He was promoted to the Pirates and pitched a CG against the Cardinals. He was a great success in what turned out to be the Pirates last winning season ever (lol) as he went 8-1 down the stretch and went 2-0 vs Tom Glavine the Braves in the NLCS (not his fault they lost, re: Barry Bonds)
BUT, in 93 he lost his control and was demoted midseason. After a year and a half more of control problems, the Pirates released him at the beginning of 1995.
Since then he was able to regain his form. Over the next 6 seasons he alternated between starter and RP, incuding being the closer in 99 and recording 15 saves.
Note however that Wakefield is more likely to have an ERA of 5+ than he is to have below 3. He succeeds mainly because his team scores a LOT of runs. Many knuckleballers can have their control go on and off like a light switch (like Wakefield) and most teams don’t have the patience to to invest in what seems to be a big gamble.
It’s too bad the Twins organization can’t come up with some better TV announcers. Coomer, LaPanta, and Blyleven are all unquestionably to worst TV announcers in Major League baseball. The games is actually much better with the sound off or using a radio in conjuction with turning the TV sound off. The TV announcers are worse than a group of retarted juveniles. Pohlad must have gotten them to work without pay, because no organization is stupid enough to pay them to be ignorant and obnoxious on televsion. It demeans the organization.
Certainly the Twins organization is not aware of the hideous effect their televison announcers have on the public. I realize there are many young fans out there in the audience, but most children over the age of seven couldn’t help but think that Coomer, and expecially Bert Blyleven, are stupid people. Perhaps a survey of viewers would shed some light on the subject for the Pohlads. I agree, the Twins announcers are the worst.
Latest knuckleballer/younger pitcher expected to make an impact is the Haeger(sp) kid for the White Sox. Pitched in the bigs briefly last year, was expected to compete for the #5 spot…and was sent out fairly early in ST…..
Blyleven is probably working for no pay. It is the only way he could get hired as an announcer. He is totally a flunky and a bad influence for chidren.
Regarding Dickey:
Let’s remember, in spite of the company line, we’re retoolong here. That’s OK. If a mid-market team isn’t in front of that curve there can be long, lean years (see 1990s Twins or more recent Tigers.
Dickey may be a small piece of a Mariners run. For us, he uses up starts that guys who are part of our future should have.
Don’t know much about Jair but I trust our talent evaluators.
heine,
“he uses up starts that guys who are part of our future should have”
Dickey is a long reliever using up NOBODY’s starts.
Guys like Heath Totten, Jason Miller, Ricky Barrett, Carmen Cali, Bobby Korecky and Julio DePaula badly need innings taken away from them.
Give the innings to a guy who is close to MLB level, not Minor League Lifers.
If those guys are our future, we are in DEEEP dung.
If one of our courageous reporters would just ask - Why Jair? Why not Dickey?
The answer might be logical.
You would think they were questioning Dick Cheney about Iraq.
Lets just accept whatever the Twins decide. They know what’s best. That would never go over in NY or Boston.
One reason Cali gets innings at this point is because the next LH reliever that will help the twins, Mijares, is injured. There are no other lefties that don’t start that can help at this point, unless you believe Ricky Barrett will ever put it together.
DePaula or Korecky will replace Rincon next year.
Don’t get the Jason Miller starting bit…read one scouting report that says Pino is too slender for long-term success as a starter, and Waldrop is injured right now.
Funkytown,
Who is closest to MLB right now?
Cali, DePaula, Korecky, Jair or Dickey?
Who would have a better chance of replacing Rincon next year?
DePaula, Korecky or Dickey?
I know that you know my answer.
herb says:
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:37 pm
It’s too bad the Twins organization can’t come up with some better TV announcers. Coomer, LaPanta, and Blyleven are all unquestionably to worst TV announcers in Major League baseball. The games is actually much better with the sound off or using a radio in conjuction with turning the TV sound off. The TV announcers are worse than a group of retarted juveniles. Pohlad must have gotten them to work without pay, because no organization is stupid enough to pay them to be ignorant and obnoxious on televsion. It demeans the organization.
Have you ever watched a White Sox broadcast. You want to see obnoxious and ignorant, listen to The Hawk. Worst announcer in baseball
I think it is funny how much effort people put into ripping the Twins for losing a rule 5 player who never would have see the field anyway. There is a reason the Mariners took him in the first place. There pitching was gross last year. Dicky easily would have made the team had they not gotten Silva and Bedard. Plus they had to trade pitching prsopects for Bedard. Dicky wouldn’t have played here so why not get somthing for him.
JaredZZZZ,
The Twins have Rincon, Reyes, Bass and Crain. Dickey out-performed all of them in ST and last year’s regular season.
If indeed, he wouldn’t have played here, it would be for the same reason Punto plays here and Casilla doesn’t.
Get something for him?
Jair was less than “something”.
The point is, if the Twins wanted Dickey, they could have easily had him back, since the Mariners would have had to offer him back. Instead, they wanted to send him to their minorleague camp, and worked out a minor deal to do so.
The Twins made a concious decision to not have Dickey in their minorleague system by agreeing to the deal.
We didn’t even really “loose” Dickey anyway. It isnt like we ever really had him. We signed him to a ML deal, then he was selected in the Rule 5. He never put on a Twins uniform. Besides we have organizational pitching depth- and we dont have organizational catching depth. Will Jair Jair ever make it to the bigs? No, but you still want decent backstops in the minors for your valuable young pitching prospects to throw to…
Are the same people up in arms that we “lost” Randy Kiesler?
Sid, you can have Dickey… I, and every other baseball person in the world will take Crain.
Backstop in the minors or possible pitcher in the majors?
Tough decision.
The Twins don’t have the patience OR the offense to allow a knuckleballer to struggle or give up 4 or 5 ER a game. So why keep him? And if you haven’t been reading, Knuckleballers are not good relievers, because of all the passed balls. Can you imagine Dickey coming in during the 7th with guys on 1st and 2nd? Scoring on him could be like riding a merry-go-round, just take a ride around the bases.
With the season now started. I still see Tigers 3B Brandon Inge is still on their roster. Are the Tigers willing to trade Inge? Did the Twins ever consider trading for Inge?
They have Inge playing CF now, so he won’t be available for a while, unless you offer them a CF
Here is the way I see the 2010 roster looking, unless the Pohlads want to dole out more money (just starters):
C: Joe Mauer
1B: Justin Morneau
2B: Alexi Casilla
SS: Matt Tolbert
3B: Brian Buscher
OF: Delmon Young
OF: Carlos Gomez
OF: Michael Cuddyer
DH: Jason Kubel
SP: Francisco Liriano
SP: (Some veteran FA)
SP: Kevin Slowey
SP: Scott Baker
SP: Nick Blackburn
(don’t think Guerra would be up in 2010, thats only 2 years away, dont forget he is only 18 and will be 20 in 2010, and the Twins do not like to rush their players up, most of the time, unless he pulls a Garza and moves through the entire system in a year or so)
thats if Mike Lamb doesnt work out, which i really hope he does, but if he doesn’t i see twins trying buscher there
Ryan W,
I would take Crain also.
My point is that saying Dickey “wouldn’t have played here” is an assumption based on nothing.
And Jair instead of Dickey is (and will be)a bad decision for the Twins.
I might trade Span (only because of numbers cruch) and (fill in the blank) for Inge, but what’s one of the most important rules in baseball?
Almost NEVER do you trade within your own division. You just don’t do it. So you (we) can pretty much forget having Inge in a Twins uniform (except via FA).
Also, come on new look offense. Score some (blankin’) runs!
Hitting Coach Vavra earning his money. 7 batters out on the first pitch tonight… 2 walks (3) 3-ball counts… way to work the pitcher, and make him earn the W! Vavra is a disease!
Putting Punto into the game is just stupid, and not pinch hitting for him in the 8th was another huge mistake for Gardenhire. Glad to see that he’s still making terrible decisions.
And as for all of the people bashing Blyleven. Turn on the radio. Gordon and Gladden are the freaking worst radio announcers in all of baseball. Blyleven doesn’t bother me nearly as much as the radio guys do.
wordsmith,
“if you haven’t been reading, Knuckleballers are not good relievers”
You weren’t reading when I mentioned reliever/knuckleballer/HALL OF FAMER Hoyt Wilhelm; 21 years; 2.52 ERA.
Gardenhire is back to his idiotic platooning mindset already, and the Twins lost a game they should have won and waisted an outstanding effort by pitcher Nick Blackburn. If the fans will watch closely throughout the season, they will see that Gardenhire’s habitual platooning will cost the team alot of games–about as many as the difference between the Twins and the first place team in the division.
“The Twins have Rincon, Reyes, Bass and Crain. Dickey out-performed all of them in ST and last year’s regular season.”
dickey didn’t outperform anyone in the regular season last year. he didn’t pitch in the majors last year. unless you are comparing his minor league stats from last year to the major league stats of the Rincon, Reyes and Crain, which is not a fair comparison. my favorite dickey moment was when he started 1 game for the rangers 2 years ago. he went 3 1/3 innings and gave up 6 homeruns.
Andy,
What is your favorite Jair Fernandez moment?
the moment when he ridded us of RA Dickey! i just find it so funny that you think it is the end of the world that we lost a knuckleballer that has had zero success at the major league level. if he had been in our system for the past 5 years you would be begging for us to get rid of him.
Wordsmith,
Other knuckleball-relievers:
Charlie Hough 25 MLB seasons; 3.75 ERA; 418 games in relief
Eddie Fisher 15 MLB seasons; 3.41 ERA;
690 games
Not the end of the world - just a bad decision.
But I am amazed you can predict my reaction to a hypothetical situation.
i can predict anything with 0-100% accuracy.
I just found this:
At the beginning of the 2006 season, the Rangers gave Dickey a chance to try out his knuckleball at the major league level by naming him the 5th starter. However, after giving up 6 home runs in his first start on April 6, tying the modern era baseball record with another knuckleballer, Tim Wakefield.
Until last night, Nick Blackburn had “had zero success at the major league level.”
I guess Wakefield should have retired after his bombing.
differences: blackburn - 25 years old with 11 2/3 innings of major league experience.
dickey - 33 years old with 266 innings of experience.
apples and oranges
BC and Saul–
I agree with both of you.
BC–Saunders had 80 pitches in 8 innings, which is a disgrace. After Game 1, Gardy says “Gomez might not walk again all season!” That’s not encouraging plate discipline. Why do the Yankees and Red Sox score many more runs than the Twins? Part of the reason is that they actually put men on base. Every team in MLB that had an OBP over .340 last year scored over 800 runs. The only two teams to score 800 runs withiout an OBP of at least .330 were Milwaukee and Texas, both with at least 50% more HR than the Twins. Twins 2007: .330 OBP. (.326 w/o Mauer) Patience at the plate matters.
Saul–Platooning. In the third game of the season, benching Mauer, Lamb, Kubel to get Redmond, Punto, and Monroe in there just doesn’t make any sense to me. The results are to be expected, but even if the Twins had scored 5 or 6 runs last night, the decision is terrible. Also agree that of the pinch-hitting options, replacing Punto instead of Harris would have been my first choice. Also would have pinch hit for Tolbert.
tim–How in the world is Yohan Pino 6′3′ and 158 pounds?
You are right about apples and oranges.
What they have in common is that neither should be given away without getting some value in return.
Why no easy to find box score link on game recaps?
A lot of people were saying that we got nothing in return for a lot of the trades that have happened in the past 10 years. I don’t think I have to remind you that some of them turned out to be great for us. I have some good things about Jair too. I found this article on one of the scouting websites:
“Jair Fernandez, C - Everett: The best among a group of teenage catchers the M’s have nabbed in the past two years. Fernandez is just 19 and the club believes he can develop better than average offensive skills while providing plus defense.”
“Why no easy to find box score link on game recaps?”
Not sure, but they haven’t been pretty.
Andy,
That evaluation is what had I hoped to read.
If the kid has a projected 25% chance to reach MLB, I would consider the decision reasonable.
I had looked for (but not found)that positive an evaluation up to now.
Thanks.
good! i don’t think it would be bad either way if we had kept dickey or taken jair.
