Twins-Sox: The, `Beat Mark Buehrle,’ Lineup
Posted on July 28th, 2008 – 4:14 PMBy La Velle
Twins manager Ron Gardenhire has both Joe Mauer and Mike Redmond in the starting lineup, and for a good reason.
Mike Redmond is batting .480 (12 for 25) against Buehrle, so he’s the DH today while Joe Mauer catches. Craig Monroe is batting .368 (14 for 38) with two homers off the Buehrle-man, so he’s in there too. Buehrle is 21-11 with a 3.78 ERA against the Twins and, in my opinion, has been the biggest pain in the Twins’ necks through the years.
Carlos Gomez is not in the starting lineup. Denard Span is in center and batting leadoff again.
For Nick Punto fans, he’s batting .321 against Buehrle.
5:55 update: Gomez told Gardenhire that he’s available to play tonight. He went through pre-game with no problems and is expected to start tomorrow.
Michael Cuddyer took 25 soft swings and put an outfielder’s glove for the first time since June 28 as he shagged fly balls and made throws. He needs to be able to grip and rip the bat a few days before the Twins send him out on a rehab program. But it was easy to tell he was glad just to be out on the field with a purpose for a chance.
By the way, Cuddyer had two cortisone injections in his left index finger/hand area.
A crowd of 38,000 is expected tonight. The stars have come out for this one, as Brock Lesnar was on the field before the game.
Check back here later for updates!
Lineups
White Sox (59-44): 1.Orlando Cabrera, SS. 2. A.J., C. 3. Carlos Quentin, LF. 4. Jermaine Dye, RF. 5. Jim Thome, DH. 6. Paul Konerko, 1B. 7. Nick Swisher, CF. 8. Josh Fields, 3B. 9. Alexei Ramirez, 2B. Pitching: Mark Buehrle.
Twins (57-47): 1. Denard Span, CF. 2. Alexi Casilla, 2B. 3. Joe Mauer, C. 4. Justin Morneau, 1B. 5. Delmon Young, LF. 6. Red Dog, DH. 7. Craig Monroe, RF. 8. Brendan Harris, 3B. 9. Nick Punto, SS. Pitching: Kevin Slowey.
240 Responses to "Twins-Sox: The, `Beat Mark Buehrle,’ Lineup"
I do believe that the Twins are overdue to put a great big “hammerin” on Mr. Buehrle.
Wow, interesting, LEN3. Gardy is pulling out all the stops in having both his catchers in the same game. I suppose they could always have Mike “bullpen catcher” Lamb be the emergency catcher if necessary.
Ouch. That lineup must have Gleeman fuming…
Guess Gardy will stick with his way, folks. His way has provided us with results, mind you.
Go Twins! I was at the last Twins - White Sox series in chicago. Hopefully I was the bad luck. Good thing I’m no where near MN . . .
“For Nick Punto fans, he’s batting .321 against Buehrle.”
Such fans exist?
What’s the update on Gomez?
Everett? Are they really going to add him to the roster, and if so, at who’s expense?
LNP is my hero. But seriously hopefully the guys can grit one out and beat Buehrle.
Yesterday or Sat they were saying Gomez was looking to come back for tomorrows game, haven’t heard otherwise, nor a confirmation.
“Buehrle is 21-11 with a 3.78 ERA against the Twins and, in my opinion, has been the biggest pain in the Twins’ necks through the years.”
Bigger than Troy Percival? That dude single-handedly handcuffed us for about a decade…as did Mike Mussina in his early years…
FSN coverage tonight, my guesstimates:
35% on All you can eat seats
15% on the AFLAC Trivia Question
20% Ron Coomer random analysis
10% Circle me Bert (includes lottery winners circle)
20% Game
But seriously, they talked about the AYCE seats way way too much last time.
Twinsbaseball.com does not list a probable pitcher for tomorrow night. Is there any chance it could be Liriano?
Roto that is halarious!! I agree with most of that. You forgot a few things…how about being subjected to that goofy “singing Twins” commercial at least 3 times per telecast. Notice how they edited that after Rincon got the boot? Hmm….
There is no chance it will be Liriano. He just pitched yesterday.
For Nick Punto fans… you obviously know nothing about baseball… period…
Plunkton - The edit is funny, but franchise with the cymbals is classic.
“… and he’s got nasty…”
Anyone now what Liriano did yesterday? Haven’t heard anything yet.
This Line up better score some runs tonight.Slowey is 0-2 with a ERA over 12 this year against the Palehosers.
Roto,
you forgot a reference to Oakland’s large amounts of foul territory, Bert’s California math, Dick talking about finding random MN towns on a map.
Off topic, but anyone else notice that Twins starting pitcher tomorrow night is listed as TBA at mlb.com Twins site? Perkins should be up. Hmmm… Just trying to fuel some trade rumors here…
Regarding tomorrow’s pitcher. It was been listed as TBA since the start of the Cleveland series.
Perkins will be starting tomorrow.
The Twins will be bombed by the Wsox because the Twins are not willing to obtain the rest of the pieces of the puzzle necessary to become better. The Twins are o.k. against the teams that are no good, but they get beat easily by the really good teams. Pohlad and Gardenhire don’t care about that, they only care about winning enough games to keep the fans paying.
Tom…pitched ok in the first few innings…imploded/tired as he left, gave up something like a hit a walk and a 3r HR before getting taken out, but had 9 Ks
6 IP 8 hits 4 ER 0 BB 9 K’s 102 pitches 64 for strikes
Shawn,
Not to mention that “Pithers are the best athletes on the field.” and some vague reference to Bert giving up a lot of Homers and being proud of it.There probably will have to be some mention of Ron Kittle “owning” Bert also, since we are playing the White Sox.
How does a goof like Blyleven remain on the air as a Twins announcer. His audience must be age 12 or younger and others with an IQ of less than 85.
Thanks Ben. Another excuse the Twins will use to keep him in the minors for two months.
the best reason to watch FSN north is to see how excited Dick can get on a routine fly ball.
Actually, I’m going to do a log entitled “Dick’s Deceits” for tonight’s telecast and post the results in tomorrow’s 220 Blog…I think it would be instructive to break down a complete game’s worth of spin…all in good fun, of course.
Out of curiousity, what does the L in LNP stand for?
For those of you who added to my FSN post. I agree with pretty much all of that. I should change Game to 10% and the other 10% would be expected gibberish and references. Good call.
However, the bullpen singing commercial always makes me smile or laugh (depending on how many drinks I’ve had). The unintentional (or intentional) comedy with Franchise and the symbols is classic, and for some reason Twitchy Nathan’s singing to the sky are the two highlights. I also noticed the Rincon edit, and hoped that they would forget about that and leave it in.
Speaking of Rincon. Raise your hand if you got excited seeing Rincon warming up in the Cleveland pen on Sunday. *raising hand* Oh how I wanted to see him pitch. I would’ve given up at least 2 of my future children to see that. Maybe 3 if he gave up 5 runs.
SweetOne, you say that as if speaking on authority - do you have insider info or can you post a link to what you know? It struck me as curious only because Perkins was the only name missing over the next 5 days. All the other starters are listed in order through the Blackburn vs. Sowers rematch on Friday. Big TBA sitting there for tomorrow where Perkins name should be, and that seems odd given the rest of the lineup through the week is complete.
LNP = Little Nicky Punto (you can add Tiny superhero at the end).
A little homage to the now defunct Bat Girl site. I’m sure many people here were regular readers of that site.
Un, it stands for “Little”, and is taken from Batgirls nickname for him, “Little Nicky Punto”. Damn, do I miss Batgirl’s blog!
Best Twins commercial out there now is the radio spot which breaks down all of Joe Nathan’s mannerisms…that one’s actually pretty funny.
Jason — “Such fans exist?”
It’s pretty decrepit of so-called Twins fans to get down on Punto. He’s valuable for the Twins this year……which is a lot more than I can say for some posters’ value to this blog.
I’d be willing to bet, even money, possibly my future children (whom I put in wagers quite often) that Jason was being sarcastic. Just a hunch.
Come back, Batgirl!
*weeps for Legovision*
BatGirl was very funny.Her unique outlook in all things Twins was a great escape from the know-it-all blogging done here(myself included).
Plus her nicknames and man crushes were spot on.
herby’s post at 4:46 is precise and about 100% true.
The only hope for the Twins is almost-perfect starting pitching. But, lacking that, they don’t have a chance at post season.
Don’t forget 15% “at the major league level” reference
10% “When I was pitching” references
5% Comedy that is not funny
I wonder how Busher has done against Buerhle? Oh that’s right…we don’t ride the hot bat.
0-4 for LNP
4-3
F7
K
4-3
Brian,
You forgot to mention that the K for Punto will be on a foul bunt.
Don’t use nicknames in the lineups. It makes it harder to read.
“herby’s post at 4:46 is precise and about 100% true.”
I’ll maybe maybe believe this could be true for our owner who has a long track record of stinginess. But Gardy? He only cares about winning enough to put fans in the seats?? Give me a break. Nice middle school logic.
“For Nick Punto fans, he’s batting .321 against Buehrle.”
Such fans exist?
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I’ll admit to being a Nick Punto fan.
I’m not ashamed.
Interesting estimates Roto. Here’s mine for tonight’s blog:
50% - Lineup whining. (60% Punto, 20% Redmond, 20$ usual complaints, 0% Mauer batting 3rd [glad that one’s dead])
15% - HAWKINS!? whining. (100% regardless of it being only a rumor)
10% - Second guessing. (90% bullpen management related)
10% - Trade demands (50% Beltre related).
5% - Jason taking potshots at bloggers/writers (100% unsolicited).
5% - Actual discussion. (75% original content)
0% - Me. I need a day off after yesterday’s tough loss. Oh wait…they WON!? I couldn’t tell after reviewing the comments.
I odn’t know why everyone gives Dick and Bert such a hard time. They are Minnesota through and through and I like that Dick gets so excited when things go well. Anyway, not all of D and B’s fans are under 12 w/ an IQ of under 85…I am 23 and just finished my first year of law school.
Rotoblinders — “…Jason was being sarcastic…”
Yup. So others, not Jason.
The one thing that bugs me most about Dick is his overexcitement when a catcher blocks a curveball in the dirt. “Great stop by Mauer! Oh what a block!” As if Mauer was totally surprised by the curve.
No way Dick and Bert are as annoying as the Hawk, even when the Hawk compliments the Twins. Thank god I can mute the Hawk and stream the Twins radio online for sound!
I agree with Steve. I am 26 and have a master’s in English and I enjoy D & B. Granted, Bert’s misuse of the word “good” starts irking me after a while. (ie. Boy, they are sure swinging the bats good tonight!)
eaa said — “…But Gardy?”
My bad, eaa. I didn’t notice the word “Gardenhire”.
And of course it’s been Gardenhire calling for another reliever and a RH bat.
Want to win the AL Central?
1) Call up Liriano NOW
2) Trade Delmon Young and Kevin Slowey to the BosSox for Manny and a prospect.
3) Release Lamb, Everett and Monroe
4) Bring up Macri and platoon him at 3rd with Buscher
5) Trade Bonser to a National League team which desperately needs pitchers like the Phillies for prospects.
6) Shift Span to left field.
Steve,
Congrats on making it through 1L. 2L is the worst until you start taking electives.
Regarding tomorrow’s starter being TBA, I could have sworn it did say Perkins yesterday, but I could be mistaken, if someone says it’s been listed that way for a while. Not sure why that would be the case though, since they’ve got Wednesday-Friday’s starters listed correctly.
That’s not what I want to hear Walter…
I agree that Bert should probably start using well rather than good, but I think we could have a lot worse. In undergrad I had mlb.tv and I had to mute it and just watch from time to time because other crews were so awful.
Twins fan since ‘61:
1) He’ll get about 10 starts before the end of the year. Not a huge impact, but definitely an improvement.
2) Not gonna happen…ever.
3) Everett…maybe, but the other two are here to stay. Sorry.
4) Macri (AAA) vs. LHP: .203/.243/.348. Not exactly a platoon guy.
5) This could happen, but it would be hard since he hasn’t been starting for several weeks.
6) Span’s defense would be completely wasted in left field, and his offense is nowhere near what it needs to be for a corner outfielder.
I’m not saying I disagree with you that some of these (1, 5) would be good ideas. I’m just doubtful that they will happen OR have the impact that some people envision them having.
Steve,
i live in NY, i get a heavy dose of Sterling or Kay if i want to check into a non twins game…. or when i am stuck with them when the Twins play the Yanks
Cool Romer.
Looking at the six item list to win the pennett, if we traded Young and Slowey for Manny (which they wouldn’t do in the first place) that would leave us with no Garza, no Bartlett, no Young, and no Manny after the season since he obviously wouldn’t stick around. Plus no Slowey. I’m guessing Twins management wouldn’t want to have to explain that nearly every day in the media.
Twins fan since 61…
Please send over some of what you are smoking. Its seems very good.
Trading Young and Slowey for Manny AND a prospect…
Wow i haven’t laughed like that for a while.
Here’s another trade Idea, lets trade Buscher Boof and Lamb to the Yankees for A-Rod. Or how about Bass, Monroe and Delmon for Chase Utley.
Yeah that sounds good.
young has way too much potential to trade for a head case like manny.
I’d hold out for Utley and a prospect.
trading for manny…. he could stay if we controlled the options…. because manny is a 10 and 5 guy would probably have to negotiate with him.
of course the Twins wouldn’t want that salary for more than 1 year, making value given up too high
tomjh,
Actually Span would be better suited for LF than right at the dome.The domes leftfield is much larger,and he wouldn’t have the long throw from RF to third (his arm is average at best).But there is no way the Twins are going to switch DY back to right after moving him to LF this year,unless maybe Cuddy is done for the year.Once Cuddy comes back I think Gardy will go with some kind of 4 man outfield platoon.If they stay in the race and Span continues to out perform Go-Go,Span could see alot of time in CF.
GOPHERGUY:
I also heard Ken Griffey Jr. is available. Maybe trade Punto for him.
Once Cuddy is back, I suspect that he will take the RH DH duties off Monroe and that there will be some sort of a rotation between Gomez/Span and Cuddy/Span in the OF
what does everybody think will happen when Tolbert returns?
Here’s an idea to win the division…
Trade:
Livan for Lincecum
Baker for Volquez
Slowey for Cliff Lee
Blackburn for Duchscherer
Perkins for James Shields
Casilla for Kinsler
Harris/Punto for Hanley
Buscher/Lamb for Longoria
Delmon for Braun
Gomez/Span for Sizemore
Cuddyer/Kubel for Hamilton
Boof/Bass for Dunn (DH)
We should be able to win there, and we don’t take on anyone too expensive. Sounds good to me.
Steve,
Yeah but would all those guys play “The Twins Way”,get after it,and bust their tails?
looks to me like morneau was pleading with the twins to make some moves…wouldnt come out and say it but you can read it in between the lines…pathetic situation bill smith has put this team in and the start of the most important series of the year…it should have been done by now…..thx again bill smith from the players and the fans…
I love it. Punto gets bunt single yesterday because the 3rd baseman played it a like a Little Leaguer so he finds his way into the line-up. Let’s not forget his Roger Dorn olay in the 8th yesterday that gave the Tribe a run.
Beurhle or not he has no business playing. Again, all I do is laugh (out loud) when I see his name in the line-up. It’s comical.
tolbert if hes lucky will be a sept call up at best…theres no room for him and he hasnt played for months….hes not needed
Oh, and Gomez won’t play until next week. These guys don’t play hurt and Gardy does help the cause because he babies his players. Cuddyer will be out until September. You heard it here first.
I have a co-worker who is from Missouri and he said he played against Buehrle in high school and got a hit off him. Using Gardy’s line-up philosophy, my co-worker Chris should be in the Twins line-up tonight, right???
no Bill, not unless we can get him signed and someone dropped from the roster before game time
not that it makes any difference now, but i bet that had the twins left gomez in AAA this spring and brought up span, as it was almost a toss up as to who stayed in AAA, but the twins were so caught up in the speed thing and the big trade, they almost had to play him, but that decision alone is probably the difference in them being in 2nd place rather than leading the division tonite going into this game…
mj1,
i disagree, i think Gomez in May and Span in July make a good player, but i am sure span would have had his struggle…. he hasn’t even been a regarded player in years until this year.
mj1,
you forgot how well Gomez played the first 2 months of the season and how awful was Span on his first call up. Things are reversed now. The true projected performance is some place in the middle for those player
I agree with Shawn…Gomez was a huge factor in our early season wins. He has just been in a big funk for a while now. Maybe Span after 4 months of MLB AB’s would be hitting .250 too, you just don’t know.
well i just hope gomez isnt too fragile, because if cuddy heals, i dont know what they will do with him, unless cuddy is dh and they rotate around…but i hope hes learning something on the bench, because he is still along way from being a leadoff hitter or even a regular in this lineup….that speed is so worthless if he cant get on, etc and all the things we all know -
bill do you enjoy steering conversations to your own topics? i mean theres this great discussion goign and you just jam in with stuff about punto and stuff just wondering
Bill Brasky,
“I have a co-worker..he said he played against Buehrle in high school and got a hit off him… my co-worker Chris should be in the Twins line-up tonight, right???”
If he can put up with your crap for 8 hours a day, he has already been through hell, so run his ass out there!
you could almost say that tonite is the start of the playoffs, about a 56 game playoff –sounds stupid, but it really is…
Wow, a lot of ridiculous on here today.
mj1: How about giving the Twins players, Gardenhire, and Smith a little credit for playing beyond expectations and competing this year and thus being in a position to think about picking up a veteran player? There is no good fit for the Twins as the only impact bat being dumped is Beltre and he is pretty expensive.
Also, Span had no claim to be the starter in April as he had had numerous unproductive years in the minors. His numbers this year reflect original expectations, but he had never shown promise in the minors of ever producing like this.
Bill, Punto is playing because he provides very good defense and he’s been successful against Buehrle. Punto is no the answer at 3B but he can play some SS, and he’s hitting as well as he his, he does make the team better.
When Cuddyer comes back (which even from LEN3’s update above looks to be at least 2 weeks away) I believe Monroe will be the man out as the other 5 OF (Span, Gomez, Kubel, Cuddyer and Young) all rotate in an out of DH.
I don’t think we want Utley. Bad clubhouse guy and we don’t have a spot to play him. I guess we could move him over to 1B, as he played there some last year when Howard was hurt.
hopefully Everett has a great night and inspires the Dodgers to trade for him
1 for 1 and a walk plus an RBI
California Dreamin
twins strengths:
offensive production from young, harris, buscher, morneau, and mauer.
span, maturing pitching.
twins weakness:
lack of production from young, harris, buscher.
punto, weak rotation. livan, boof.
oko,
“I don’t think we want Utley. Bad clubhouse guy and we don’t have a spot to play him.”
What is your source for that?
That is not the Chase Utley I have seen play since he was 13-yrs-old.
No spot?
Casilla to SS, Utley to 2B!
Won’t happen, but I don’t believe any of the Utley negatives based on my own observations.
it was probably sarcasm…. gotta be right?
Shawn,
You must be right about the sarcasm.
I didn’t even get to the “I guess we could move him over to 1B” part because I was so pissed off.
My bad!
i think we would all chip in the cash if LA will take everett and cash for laroche, but im not holding my breath on that rumor….
wheres this whole laroche and everett thing coming from?
hee hee. ajs batting 2nd. i bet that just ticks off jason!
no Revere again, is he hurt?
maybe we can bundle morneau with somebody and get manny. put cuddyer at 1b. the money they save on morneau can go to manny
Did anyone see AJ motioning just before a pitch to Mauer in the bottom of the 1st? What was he doing? It looked directed at the Twins dugout… thoughts?
aj being aj
sox hit fly balls, twins hit ground balls. this wont end well
Span go bam.
SPAN!!
oh yeah…
that ended well
Did Cuddyer just get Wally Pipped?
cuddy still has a home. at 3rd. when they trade buscher or something. hawkins for lamb!
and it all started with a punto hit! its a good thing gardy put him in the lineup
Punto’s value is high. Trade him now for Manny.
Swisher lost his glove
Morneau!!!!
man. what idiot put this lineup together…
You get extra bases when you throw your glove. I’d put the HR on the board and put Justin at 2b again.
no homer young? you SUCK!
i repeat. what idiot put this lineup together…
I like how you think Carlos.
Redmond owns him.
I don’t know if any of you saw the Bert/Dick tirades earlier here but Bert is reminding me tonight of another one of his lines - he always says “She-cago.”
Good job by the umps, except the idiot who called it fair at first.
you’re right eaa, i forgot that one
Does any hitter kill us more than Dye?
ron kittle reference
eaa,
Joe Crede, who thankfully is on the DL this series.
eaa, Magglio Ordonez
This is going to be unpopular…
There is no way any of us knows whether Dye’s drive was fair or foul. That happens at the foul pole, not when the ball comes back into view as it descends into the stands. It was hooking and could easily have been fair at the foul pole.
It just shows how difficult the instant replay will be if MLB just uses the cameras we have out there now rather than the type of computer generated replay that tennis uses. I heard that that needs more than 20 cameras on a small area. Who knows how many cameras we will need on a baseball field if we want the replay system to be accurate.
Capt: I do agree with you about replay. Hate it and you raise excellent points.
However, we do know that was foul. Yes balls hook but that was obviously hooking before the pole. Dye knew it. Did you see his reaction? He even laughed with the ump.
Your point on replay is well taken.
Here we go Capt!!! How about this one!
re: Dye’s HR
I’m going to trust the hitter and Dye’s reaction clearly showed that it was a foul.
Ramirez tried to barehand it!
ugh, another hand injury!
Just a scrape thankfully.
She-cago reference
The next Twins player who touches a base with his hand should be fined. Period. Enough with the head-first slides.
While advancing, that is.
Ehren - that’s the worst name I’ve ever seen.
Craig Monroe sucks! .208 BA as DH? Unacceptable!
Craig’s a nice guy and all, but his time has got to be coming up here pretty quick.
Check that Monroe is at .202 after that DP
Agreed. He’s had a few knocks but has killed us for the most part.
You know, if we had a credible right-handed power or average or (gasp) power/average hitter this team would be pretty good.
I hope Billy Salad Bar is working the phones to find a quality right hand bat. It is kind of hard to believe that they can’t find a hitter from within the system.
Nothing I’ve seen has dissuaded me from the idea that the Twins can win the division and play well in the playoffs…except for a tweak that is a right handed bat with power. If Billy, Carl, Jim P. etc. don’t act I will really be upset. The brass ring only comes around every few years.
Double play.. how is a guy with that BA starting?
Anyone listening to the radio broadcast?? Danny is just goofy tonight!! Very animated. He’s cracking up Jack Morris.
geez thome, thanks for not swinging the bat. Really, do you not think you have a strike zone? Should have been 5 strikes and close to 6; thankfully he called the last one. Sit down.
Speaking of right handed hitters, Randy Ruiz is hitting .312/.358/.514 for Rochester.
Ruiz doesn’t really have a position he can field well
True, schurik, but once Cuddyer comes back Craig Monroe won’t have any position either.
I wouldn’t mind Ruiz on the bench. If not now def in Sept.
Proposed trade:
Beltre and Putz (they don’t need him if they are rebuilding) for DY, Lamb, and Korecky and if necessary another prospect.
We get 3b and a setup man. They get a potential all star OF and a new closer and someone to fill 3b while they rebuild.
if the Mariners want that trade we need to do it straight away
proposed trade: craig monroe for david wright.
how many inngings will KS throw tonight?
Why does everybody want to trade Delmon?
There you go, mickey. How about Everett to the Dodgers for LaRoche?
Monroe has passed Lamb, Everett and Bonser as the most worthless player on the team.
I think even the batboy would bring more in a trade.
Carlos G.
You forgot to throw in Mauer & Morneau
With all due respect,
Why would you trade a 22yo OF who is batting almost .300? You pick up a RH bat in Beltre but you lose one in Young. Doesnt make any sense. If Korecky is good enough, bring him up and get rid of Bass/ Bonser
Oh my God not the trade talk again. How about the rights to Kirby Puckett for A Rod, Jeter and a top prospect?
schurik, not to mention all the millions of dollars in salary the Twins would have to take on to make that trade.
Ben W., what’s Beltre’s contract anyway?
Let’s let this AB decide it. Hit - Delmon stays, out - he goes.
The Yanks do have someone the Twins are interested in. Latroy Hawkins. Watch us grab him and his 5.41 ERA off waivers. This is funny:
mike wants wins says:
“5.41 ERA is better than which current relievers on the Twins?”
Beltre gets something like 13 mil for next year and the Twins would probably have to pay 5 or 6 mil for the rest of this year. I’m sure Putz is well paid too.
“Why does everybody want to trade Delmon?”
The blog would rather bitch about his hitting, but that’s not going well for them right now so a trade will soon become necessary.
SHRUK:
Whooeeeeee! $13.4 Million!
http://baseball.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6039
Good to see Go-Go out there.
Thanks Ben, mudcat
No problem, Shrek! When someone asks a question here, we got people all over it! ! !
props to slowey for throwing well tonight. is nathan warmin up? or let him go all the way?
If we took on all that salary, we’d have no wiggle room next year at the trade deadline when everybody wants to swing a deal.
3-24 since retruning from D.L. with two hits that never left the infield.
As Bert would say..”they are playing Twins Baseball tonight”
whatever the heck that means
Complete game shutout, Stinker!
bring in reyes!
Just trying to keep it real here folks. People want Bill to do something, but all they want to give up are Lamb, Boof, Bass, Livan, Everett…
I have been (and still am) a DY fan (and one of the few remaining Gomez fans), but much of this blog site believes we can be a contender with a RH power hitting 3b and a good setup man. I don’t necessarily agree with that, but am willing to play along with the idea.
So, if you want improvements for the short term you gotta give up something that the M’s want. Put yourself in their shoes and look at what we have to offer and come up with a legitimate trade. That’s all I was doing.
Interestingly half the response believe we are getting a steal and the other half think I am nuts. Generally, that is when you have a fair trade. LOL
go-go has been healed! or maybe he knocked some sense into his noggin
I think some competition with Span will do Gomez a world of good.
Carlos G.
If I understand the desire for Beltre it is “another” RH bat.
Carlos
I think you’re nuts. And the trade sucks too!!!!
lol
Payback is sweet. It could be a good night all around with losses by BOS, DET, & TB; NYY & OAK are losing.
Carlos, no offense intended. It’s nowhere near the worst trade idea I’ve seen thrown out here.
Just remember that in coming up with a trade you have to put yourself in the Pohlads’ expensive Italian loafers and keep payroll at the front of your mind.
JP,
I am crushed. What if I threw in your fav player, Nicky?
LOL
Dick Bremer is going to be crushed if Slowey gives up a run.
“I am crushed. What if I threw in your fav player, Nicky?”
Only if the Mariners will give up Ichiro!
Ben,
I take no offense on these sites. And, this is the type of trade that the “win it all now” folks would want to make. As I’ve said many times in the past, I like “this team”.
I just get weary of all the trade Cuddy and Livan for player ‘x’ proposals. You have to expect the other GM isn’t drunk or stupid.
I am fine riding this team for this year. My goal is 2010 (also previously stated many times).
White Sox should have played their “Beat Kevin Slowey” lineup! ! !
Here’s to everyone saying they’d give up slowey for Beltre or demote him to the bullpen to make room for Liriano. And to everybody who complained about Redmond being in the lineup too.
I just saw a stat that said Chicago scores 1.6 runs/game when they don’t hit a home run.
Masterful.
Brilliant performance. What a ballgame.
102 pitch complete game!
Wow
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The white sox came to swing today!
Where are all those people who wanted to send Slowey to the pen?
Haha
If you can get ANY team to take LNP then I’m all for it. 
The trade is interesting. After tonight we have a winning record against lefties, something like 17-15? So why the rush to make a trade for a guy that costs 13 million for the next two years and ML contributing players?
I mean for a team that was supposed to finish last in their division, the team is doing pretty well.
Bill Brasky says:
July 28th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Oh, and Gomez won’t play until next week. These guys don’t play hurt and Gardy does help the cause because he babies his players….You heard it here first.
I guess thats the ONLY time we’ll hear it!
Punto scored the winning run.
In other words, I am just tossing out realistic proposals to get the players some people are demanding and expecting to get for junk… that ain’t happening either.
Difference between Slowey tonight and the previous starts is very simple…he didn’t just throw cutters. He mixed in a LOT of sliders and he did it early and late in counts. He also busted hitters inside.
This was a very different Slowey. I said last time he needs to develop another + pitch to be a good MLB starter. Well, tonight he had that pitch and he wasn’t afraid to throw it for once. If he can continue throwing that slider over for strikes and attacking hitters inside he will be an outstanding starter.
He needs to prove he can do it constantly.
On Gomez…
Anyone who has been paying attention to his AB’s for the last few weeks would have noticed how much better he has been. He has been swinging at much better pitches and he has hit a lot of balls hard. Not much is falling for him, but the key is his approach is 100% better. He is still our best long term OF imo.
Punto also has gone 2-23 with 6 SO and 2 GIDP since coming off the DL and an error in the field. But I won’t get started on Punto after a nice win.
OOPS make that 2-23 for LNP.
I would say both Delmon Young AND CG have shown a lot better plate discipline as the season has gone on. DY is 22, CG is 23. Give ‘em time.
Hmmm…
Claim 1: Gomez is cry baby who will probably be out for another week.
Result 1: Gomez gets PH single.
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Claim 2: Gardy is an idiot for putting Redmond in the lineup.
Results 2: Redmond is 2 for 3.
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Claim 3: Thank god Monroe’s in the lineup rather than Kubel.
Results 3: Monroe 0-3, including an inning ending DP and an out in the first rally.
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Claim 4: Blah blah blah Punto. Wah wah Harris.
Results 4: Combined 2-8. Punto comes in on the Span dinger. Harris with a 2-run double.
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Thank god Punto only got the one hit. Otherwise fans wouldn’t have anything to rip on Gardy for after this game.
LOL I MEAN 3-23.
Hahaha. My subconscious hate for punto is really rearing its head.
Settle down people. Punto is a nice utility player.
Good post, T. LOL
Well done T, uh, Blog Policeman. As much as bad comments irritate you, some of us get tired of your comments.
Lets all just leave it alone and enjoy a great win for the Twins.
Cmon T,
try to enjoy the win
Any word on Everett’s status?
There is supposed to be an announcement after the Red Wing game.
Man, we would like another reliever here, but if you are a Mets fan, you gotta be going crazy about their bullpen. Brutal.
I love the pettiness on this blog…why everyone here feels the need to stick it in each others’ faces instead of talking baseball…I just don’t get it.
where were the extra 8,000 fans that were suppose to be at the game tonight? And Go-go is 22
I am preparing for August 1 when the anger will be high on this site.
I anticipate that we won’t see a significant trade and it isn’t because we don’t want to. I also anticipate that half this blog will go crazy on August 1 when we don’t have their particular favorite new player to fill their particular big hole in the lineup.
It most likely won’t happen because in order to get quality players, you have to give up something (and that something doesn’t include our spare parts, soon to be DFA’s players, or bad contracts).
Basically, I am trying to suggest some of the minimums we need to offer to get the quality being demanded. It will require one of the young OFs (DY or Span) or one of the young SPs or both and prospects to get someone like Beltre and a setup man. Some people would make the move as they see that as a positive to win now. Others look at the long term.
For the record, I like this team.
scooter,
for the record, both Gomez and Young are 22; Gomez is 2+ months younger than Young. Delmon was born 9/14/85, Carlos 12/4/85…
mike wants wins says:
“love the pettiness on this blog…why everyone here feels the need to stick it in each others’ faces instead of talking baseball…I just don’t get it.”
Amen brother. Amen.
“why everyone here feels the need to stick it in each others’ faces instead of talking baseball”
Sorry, Mike.
I am actually a very bitter man.
Carlos
For the record, I do too. Well mostly. I think Lamb and Boof are black holes on the roster. But its been fun so far following the twins. I also think we could use an upgrade from Bass to someone better, whether that be through trade or not I’m not sure. Wish Macri was up here.
And as much as i’d like to see a trade, if the asking price is too high, i’m not for trading the future for now. those trades are always hit or miss.
Carlos G: I also think they won’t make a trade. But, I expect that, and since it is what they did all the time earlier this decade, I’ve come to the conclusion that is part of the price I pay for being a Twins fan. Just gotta live with it. It will frustrate me occasionally, but I’ve learned to just let that frustration go pretty quickly, because in the end it isn’t that big a deal if they win it all or not.
And please, if I ever interview with any of you for a comm job, just forget that “paragraph” above.
Did I just hear Gardy say that Everett will be with the Twins tomorrow?
If so, who walks the plan?
If so, who walks the planK?
Typing disorder.
JP,
I agree. We can improve from within by bringing up Frankie now. And, if anyone wants to give up a prospect for someone about to be DFA’d, I am for that too.
mike,
I think you are correct. It takes a different mindset to pull the trigger on a couple of “win now” type of players for a couple of high ceiling type players.
If you are wrong (Herschell Walker), then you may never recover. If you are right, (Sabathia maybe?), then you are a hero.
No guarantees. Just gotta take your shots when you think the time is right and the risk is right.
Mr. Mike wants, Thanks for having the good sense to point out the rudeness. And, Mr. sane, you are a lot of things, but certainly not a bitter man. Your post on Utley earlier was a gem. Thanks. Mr. Carlos, You’re my nominee for interim GM. (For whatever that’s worth?)
{sigh}
“Carlos, You’re my nominee for interim GM.”
Carlos G,
You now have until July 31 to (in the words of mj1) “get your f-t -ss out of your chair” and DO whatever you (interim) GM’s DO!
I am just kidding!
mj1? - Not so much.
FYI, Beltre hit two home runs in Seattle’s win tonight. Having some power from the right side of the plate would be great, but the asking price is probably to high. Texas had scouts in the stands tonight, wonder if they were watching anyone in particular or just scouting the Sox
As much as bad comments irritate you, some of us get tired of your comments.
Hey. I’ve taken the last two games off. And I think for all the crap I take on a daily basis I’m allowed to occasionally throw a few non-baseball related jabs at people.
If you’re trying to get people to enjoy the win, I’m the last person you need to convince.
Everett back? WHA? Is there something in the background we don’t know about.
And now that I think about it…if they do trade Everett for LaRoche (aka: Dodgers suffer a mind fart on a near Andruw Jones scale) where does he go on the roster?
They’d still need to dump somebody. My money’s on Lamb.
But hey…since I’m all about some fun postulating (does that mean theorizing?)
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Twins deal Lamb to Yankees for Hawkins (they offer to help eat some of the contract)
Twins DFA Bass.
Twins deal Everett for LaRoche.
A pig soars by my office window.
People still up around here? Just wanted to watch the highlights after being there… Slowey was great, had some nice D behind him, but really kept the ball down and got some key outs. My two beefs:
1) Punto sliding head first, isn’t that how you got hurt??? moron.
2) Delmon STILL swings at every pitch, crazy..even after Buehrle is struggling in the 5th…
Well, great win, didn’t see a shutout coming that’s for sure…
No kidding. If you would’ve told me that the Twins pitching staff would only have 2 CG shutouts at this point I’d believe you.
But if you’d have told me then they’d both be by Slowey?
No way I’d buy that.
This was just an awesome game to watch on TV. Wish I could have made it to the Metrodome for this gem…
Everett will be with the team but not activated from the DL. He is just out of time on his rehab stint. I expect he will be DFAed soon.
Mostly missed the game. And all the posts.
WTF? The Slowster is a major leaguer? Ya think?!!!?!!
So is there any official news on Everett? According to reports last night Twins were going to make something official following the game.
“T says:
July 28th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
A pig soars by my office window.”
T,
It could happen.
Besides my love for the Twins, I am a HUGE European Soccer supporter.
From my ALL name team. Cievo of Verona (Italy, doh!) spent years in the lower levels of Italian soccer. their crosstown rivals Verona FC were the Big Dogs in town, and in Serie A (Top League). Verona supporters would jeer at Chievo supporters that “Donkeys will fly” before Chievo is in Serie A.
Moral of the story 4/5 years ago Chievo were promoted to Serie A. They took the nickname “Flying Donkeys” :-).
Watch out for that pig
Regards,
I read somewhere that Everett can only stay on the DL with his permission, now that he has completed his rehab. If that report is accurate, I think Everett would decline. If he is healthy, I am sure he wants to play. It’s time to activate him. The Twins could use some depth at SS.
Last year at this time, I was advocating a trade just to show the players and fans that mgt. was trying to improve the team. Now, I am advocating no trades unless they really make an upgrade to the team. Someone mentioned the other day that a Cuddy move back to third and keeping the outfield as is now would be good. I agree. The current outfield will soon be the best in the majors. Everett, Lamb and Monroe could all be traded/released but not for LaTroy. Also, for the record, I am a Punto fan.
Oh the 2 joys in life to watch at night. The Twins beating AJ and the White Sox. The second watching the Red Sox getting beaten by the Angels. Oh the joy the joy. Did anyone see Casey Blake and Joe Torre get thrown out of last nights game. Hey where is bacon bit. I don’t hear his cheers about the Nation. Hmm I can’t wait to watch the Red Sox lose Manny and then get swept by the Angels. The Nation will be crying. Boo hoo the Nation. LOL
When’s Atkins get into town?
Chris,
Why would Rockies trade Atkins?
They are “HOT”! They are only 6 out in a very weak division, which they will probably win.
Regards,
Some of you wanted to trade Slowey or send him to the minors,anybody change their mind now.So many of these trade idea are based on a fantasy league mind frame.But a Everret+ package for LaRouche makes sense.
Craig sniffs a Hair-dog trade coming.
GENO,
“But a Everret+ package for LaRouche makes sense”
What’s in the package?
Craig,
I think internet gambling is prohibited, but I’ll bet you 20 (or 20 million) imaginary dollars that Harris will outlast Everett as a Twin.
The wind whipping through LaPanta’s rug while on a boat at the Dells really creeped me out.
sane says:
July 29th, 2008 at 10:42 am
Craig,
I think internet gambling is prohibited, but I’ll bet you 20 (or 20 million) imaginary dollars that Harris will outlast Everett as a Twin.
I agree 100% sane
Who’s gonna take Everett? Didn’t Smith give him 4.5mil…
I think all we need is Liriano up and Perkins playing setup in the 8th. Perkins is the only starter other than Liriano who’s got dominating stuff with a high end Fastball.
I thought Everett was a little closer to 2.8 million.
LEN…how about some post game blogging …Joe C. always has the post game insight to write about…we love it when he is covering!
jimmy bee
“The wind whipping through LaPanta’s rug while on a boat at the Dells really creeped me out.”
I laughed. Any update on Everett?
I’m guessing he’s released. I also think that Monroe is released when Cuddy is healthy. Anyone disagree?
“The wind whipping through LaPanta’s rug while on a boat at the Dells really creeped me out.”
That wind could have blown the squirrel into the water. Nothing creepier than watching a squirrel drown.
Craig - The creepy part for us was it was in your bathtub. I’m going to give PETA an anonymous tip about you.
That’s not a squirrel in my bathtub, that’s an accumulation of fuzz from my navel. Same size though, so you just made an honest mistake, jake.
Ok. Back to business.
No Everett news?
No comment on releasing Monroe once Cuddy is available to come off the DL?
I haven’t read anything about them releasing Monroe. Maybe Everett if they can’t trade him somewhere, but I think they’ll probably hold on to Monroe and continue using him in that lefty pinch hit role. I still say that even if Monroe hasn’t really done it much this year, the fact that he at least used to have the potential to hit the ball is better their alternatives coming off the bench.
Lavelle, what is the deal with the Twins dominican summer league team? Are they Twins property? Some good numbers on some of the guys but I’m just wondering if it’s more high school level than pro level.
