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Twins-Royals: Throwdown or letdown?

Posted on September 26th, 2008 – 4:18 PM
By La Velle

The Twins are coming off of one of the greatest regular-season games in recent years. Will they keep the pedal jammed on the floor against the improving Royals?

Will have updates later, and will get you posted on Indians lefty Cliff Lee. There’s word of him having a sore neck and being unable to pitch Sunday against the Sox.

Then again, Two wins by the Twins and two losses by the Sox, and it doesn’t matter.

 Update: The MRI on Kevin Slowey’s right wrist showed no major damage. The next step is to work the swelling or the soreness down and see how it feels when he tries to throw.

Slowey is holding out hope that he’ll quickly enough to throw in the bullpen and be available to pitch on Tuesday if needed. Twins manager Ron Gardenhire, however, is being cautious and mentioned Nick Blackburn as a candidate to start Tuesday if that game is necessary.

Joe Mauer was nicked up by foul balls yesterday but said he’s good to go. It still will be interesting to see what Gardy does with Saturday’s lineup.

Kansas City’s David DeJesus could miss the series with a sore right hip flexor.

And, if you’re wondering if Cleveland isn’t motivated to beat Chicago this weekend, don’t be. Players from the 2005 team still remember how the Sox came to town at the end of that year and swept them to knock them from the playoffs - and Ozzie Guillen making a choking sign at them.

Here’s a preview story on the Sox-Tribe series.

Update; Brian Buscher left today’s game because of dizziness and was replaced by Brendan Harris.

Programming note: I will be a guest on Rosen’s Sports Sunday this week to break down the Twins’ furious finish. Please tune in.

Royals (73-86)

  1. Mike Aviles, SS
  2. Alberto Callaspo, 2B
  3. Jose Guillen, RF
  4. Ryan Shealy, 1B
  5. Mark Teahen, LF
  6. Billy Butler, DH
  7. Alex Gordon, 3B
  8. Miguel Olivo, C
  9. Mitch Maier, CF

Pitching: Kyle Davies

Twins (87-72)

  1. Denard Span, CF
  2. Alexi Casilla, 2B
  3. Joe Mauer, C
  4. Justin Morneau, 1B
  5. Jason Kubel, DH
  6. Delmon Young, LF
  7. Brian Buscher, 3B
  8. Nick Punto, SS
  9. Carlos Gomez, CF

Pitching: Francisco Liriano

Expected attendance: 35,000

578 Responses to "Twins-Royals: Throwdown or letdown?"

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

First, ftw! After Guillen, who scares you the most?

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

Damnit, Erik. Ya beat me.

tax guy says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:24 pm

what does Harris have to do to get into the lineup? Buscher is a liability at third right now.

Aaron says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:25 pm

Hooray, more Buscher! Is he more qualified than Harris to go 0-4 and make a costly fielding error?

Louie says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

It needs to Harris not Buscher, and I (was) a Buscher fan.

Erik says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

Any update on Slowey’s MRI?

Louie says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

Gardy is trying to get Gomez and Span to communicate better by placing them both in center.

Me says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

Looks like our best offensive lineup is out there tonight.

Sweetone says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

Consider me shocked.

With the beating Mauer took behind the plate last night, I figured he would be DH tonight.

gobbledygookguy says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

while giving gardy a pat on the back for getting this team this far, why is buscher playing when gardy stresses defense and pitching? buscher is not a major league infielder! fine if he goes 3-4 and drives 2-3 runs, but if he makes another error like last night and it cost us a game, and he nearly threw one away morneau saved there will be no excuse for this from gardy.

kirby91 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

Like the rest of you (I assuming anyway) I too came into work this afternoon wearing the same unwashed Twins shirt and shorts that I wore each of the last two nights. This is no time leaving anything to chance. Which brings me to my concern. Still buzzing from the stunning events that produced the sweep I’ve got ‘06 memories and trepidation over a young team trying to close the deal.

The Royals are hot. They’ve got nothing to lose and they’ve done this before (see Detroit ‘06) sweeping the Tigers and the Twins have to send Perk to the mound Saturday. There is also the unknown of how a young team will deal with the hangover that usually follows a huge series like they just finished. Hopefully Frankie sets the tone tonight and the offense gets a boost from Morneau returning to the party.

I mentioned this last night elsewhere but my hope is the Gardy comes in with the pregame speech used by Herb Brooks before the ‘80 USA hockey team faced Finland for the Gold Medal on the heels of their stunning upset of the Russians:

“If you lose this game you’ll take it to your F-ing graves (walks away, stops, turns back to the team and says) YOUR F-ing graves!”

Harsh language but sums much of my feelings heading into a weekend where all this hard work could either be thrown away or the base for a title.

Go Twins

tax guy says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

I think Davies is Blackburn + 4 years. The Twins s/ get to him. Here’s hoping Morneau will break out a bit.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

With Dejesus injured, who is their best hitter after Guillen?

tax guy says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

Aviles is their best hitter.

Aaron says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

Heatonator,

I would say DeJesus but I see he is not in there. Is he hurt?

Aaron says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

*not that I am complaining

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

Yeah, injured hip.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

Aviles is hitting .322
Callaspo .313 in 201 AB
Maier .296 in 81 AB
Shealy .306 in 62 AB

tax guy says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

didn’t you trust me? Butler and Gordon are the two guys they’re depending on, but they’ve been less than great - though I think Butler has been better of late.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

Will Cliff Lee start on Sunday?

tax guy says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

Thanks for the update Erik. I’m not sure that means he’ll be able to pitch in that play-in game, though. Hopefully it won’t come down to that.

Dwade says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:52 pm

Heatonator

Alviles, he looks great from what I’ve seen so far this year. He may even scare me more than Guillen, actually.

Simsypoo says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

Gordon has a .912 OPS after the All-Star break, he’s no cupcake! This lineup is tougher than it looks.

FoghornLeghorn says:

September 26th, 2008 at 4:56 pm

I say, I say, good sir! Mr. La Velle 3, the word is “pedal” you seek. To place a verb on the floor would be futile. Panhandle away, Twins!

I wish this would have been our Opening Day lineup, then we wouldn’t be sitting here fretting the Royals. Thank God for Span and Casilla.

If Punto is an every other year player, maybe Tolbert can take over for good next year. But keep Punto in there for now, he’s been a spark. (Thought I’d never type that.)

Louie says:

September 26th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

Should be a fun game. Wish I could watch or listen.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

Since the Royals came here Sept. 9-11, they’ve won 11 of 14 games. They just swept the Tigers in Detroit 6-2, 5-0, 10-4. This ain’t gonna be easy…

tax guy says:

September 26th, 2008 at 5:01 pm

what’s your story Louie - you working?

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 5:02 pm

Dwade, you’re right. Aviles is slugging higher than Guillen and Dejesus.

Lauren says:

September 26th, 2008 at 5:02 pm

GOOD LUCK TWINS!

Louie says:

September 26th, 2008 at 5:05 pm

Homecoming

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 5:05 pm

Shealy has 7 homers in only 62 AB

tax guy says:

September 26th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

yeah - and 15 K’s, once every 4 times up - career minor leaguer for anyone but the A’s.

Twinsfanrick says:

September 26th, 2008 at 5:23 pm

Buscher is my pick to Click.

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 5:34 pm

Play up to your level twins and you will win in crushing fashion.

John Swan says:

September 26th, 2008 at 5:36 pm

Buscher made no worst mistake than….
Gomez (running into Span). Span clearly had called for the ball. No worst than Slowey (giving up a HR, a hit and later the terrible throw allowing THREE runs to score. An inning later, Alexi can’t turn the DB. Why can’t get it out of his glove.
Alexi then can’t get the squeeze bunt down. (I admit that is difficult). But he then can’t even hit the ball to
the right side of the infield…..
So mistakes aplenty by all….Buscher included..
He’s due to hit. Harris will come in in later innings against the LH pitcher and play third.
I still believe in Buscher!!!!!
He did draw a walk and score, remember.
One of the seven runs necessary to WIN the game……

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 5:47 pm

Davies vs the Twins this year:

0-2 8 IP 7.88 ERA 6 BB 5 SO .314 AVG

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 5:52 pm

I prefer Tolbert to Buscher, but Buscher is okay. He might have a big hit tonight.

thrylos98 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 6:06 pm

John Swan,

the Gomez/Span thing was on Span. Gomez is the CF, they both called it, Span should have run away… btw, both Span and Alexi redeemed themselves last night, Buscher didn’t… about time he sits for a long time

hook10 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 6:08 pm

morneau….. 2 bombs 2 nite ….u heard it here first…..win twins. 7-2

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 6:10 pm

Span’s ball. Everyone acknowledges that including Gomez.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 6:10 pm

It looked like it was on Gomez. Span was already easily there, and Gomez comes dashing in to knock it out of Span’s glove. Is he too fast?

thrylos98 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 6:33 pm

No matter what if the CF in the OF or the SS in the IF call for a ball, everyone else has to let them catch it…

mj1 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 6:43 pm

just one at a time….great win last nite but tonites another day…just get this one tonite…..good luck twins….go get em…..

and chisox …i hope yu sox sux tonite…

sane says:

September 26th, 2008 at 6:46 pm

“No matter what if the CF in the OF or the SS in the IF call for a ball, everyone else has to let them catch it…”

If no one can hear the CF (or SS) call for the ball, that is all useless theory which impossible to apply in this case.

sane says:

September 26th, 2008 at 6:47 pm

If no one can hear the CF (or SS) call for the ball, that is all useless theory which IS impossible to apply in this case.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 6:49 pm

Not true. The CF doesn’t have the option of flying in for a superman catch, if the other player is better positioned. The CF is supposed to take charge, but he has to use good judgement.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 6:50 pm

My response is to thrylos.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 6:53 pm

The adrenaline was pumping and the legs were flying. I’m not down on Gomez, but he overplays his position at times. Experience will cure that.

joep says:

September 26th, 2008 at 6:57 pm

La velle, please name a bigger reagular season game for the twins ever.

John Swan says:

September 26th, 2008 at 6:57 pm

Buscher will make it up tonight!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:05 pm

ok, just for the record, I’m wearing my Morneau jersey for the 4th night in a row, but I washed it today. While Morneau has been down, I believe my jersey has worked to get his teammates to pick up this team. Morneau is a genius. He’s pumping confidence into this team for a deep run in the playoffs.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:09 pm

i got my gophers sweatshirt and twins hat for the 4th day…. :)

sane says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:13 pm

What religion is that?

The Church of the Limited Wardrobe?

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:13 pm

All right gang, attendance time….DrDon here…..

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:14 pm

pretty much…..

listened to something Twins Geek’s blog said Wednesday morning

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:15 pm

Shawn from Fosston here

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:15 pm

Cleveland up 1-0 over White Sux,,,,good 1st inning for Franchise!!!!

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:15 pm

Moorhead here, Shawn. Good evening to you…

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:16 pm

I’m here for the duration. well into October!

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:16 pm

got the girl getting me beers Don, you got your Millers?

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:17 pm

Cleveland leads White Sox 1-0.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:18 pm

Got the wife getting me beers and food later. All I need now is the “stadium pal” and I won’t have to move.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:19 pm

the puppies are even excited, especially Gomez

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:20 pm

I’m hear with Gameday running. If anyone would like to illustrate for me, please feel free!

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

Cleveland got a solo homer in top of first inning in ChiSux Town.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

Dye 2 out single.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

MAUER!

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

Big 10-4 on that Shawn….Bar is open, ready to cheer on the PUPS!!! Mauer basehit, YES!!!!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

solid liner to right for single. only batting .179 against Royals on season? weird.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:23 pm

Don’t try to do too much, Justin. Base-hit.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:23 pm

Mauer .331

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:24 pm

go with that pitch!

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:24 pm

Tried to do too much.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:24 pm

that would be the definition of “too much”

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:24 pm

Thome lines out to right, onto the 2nd

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:25 pm

What’s on the menu tonight, gang, besides the cold bevs?????

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:25 pm

22-11

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:25 pm

so how come FSN doesn’t broadcast these games in hi def?

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:26 pm

i had some garlic pizza with sausage….

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:26 pm

Thanks HEAT!!!!!

Krissy says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:26 pm

Im here DrDon. What’s on your dinner menu tonight?

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:26 pm

I’m thinking of sending the wife for some Panda Express. A little kung pao chicken, maybe some Bejing Beef. With fried rice and noodles. Chased by many ice cold beers. Only 5:26 in Cali, not quite dinner time.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

I’ve got a bar in the kitchen with whiskey, tequila, vodka, blue moon, triple sec…

I also have some ‘other’ substances up in my room!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

Just for the record, I miss my Leinenkugels every night since I moved from MN in 2003.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

Shealy? I thought they got rid of that bum.

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:27 pm

T-Bone tonight, with side of fresh salad and Vegies, and of course that health food from the grain group.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

Garko leadoff single!

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

Hi Kissy Krissy….welcome aboard!!!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:29 pm

you just can’t go wrong with a t-bone. I’d eat steak every other night if I could afford it.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:29 pm

I’m thinking double play. I’m very optimistic after last night

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:30 pm

of course, I meant double play after that second single

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

Keep us updated, HEAT!!!!

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

“Panda Express”

My neighbors cat was last seen by the back door of that place.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:32 pm

Macleod with 3 posts in a row!

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:32 pm

Great K Franchise!!!!!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:32 pm

Heat, I’m on Fire.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:32 pm

Garko out at 2nd, Gutierrez to 1st, 2 outs

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:33 pm

on fire with number of posts, not so much on predictions.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:33 pm

Gutierrez steals 2nd

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:34 pm

BARField! 2-0 tribe!

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:35 pm

Macleod…I hear you on steak, I enjoy about once every week or two, more fond of grilled salmon or grilled tuna. had the grilled tuna last night, so get steak tonight for a treat….

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:35 pm

That’s what I told my neighbor anyway.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:35 pm

Cabrera error! 1st and 3rd 2 outs Sizemore up

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

Way to put out the fire Franchise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

for some reason I just wasn’t nervous with the bases loaded.

edoggydogg says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

atta boy franchise.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

that had to be the quietest bases loaded I’ve ever seen.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:37 pm

37 pitches from Danks through 2

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

bare handed fielding by 2nd baseman to put Indians out.

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:38 pm

OK Kubes, let’s get rolling here.

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:39 pm

So it is 2-0 Cleveland, right????

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:39 pm

Kubel pulled off those pitches. Fastball had no movement on it.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

My neighbor was wondering what that small mound of fresh earth in my back yard was. “I planted some fall perrenials”, I told her with a smirk on my face.

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

DY!!!!!!!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

2-0 Tribe

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

I just got a “your posts are coming too fast, slow down” message

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

DY hitting .295 now

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

Kubel is trying to hit the ball out just like Morneau. They need to just play some good Twins-style baseball.

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

How was that a strike?

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

2-1 Tribe

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

Good answer, Craig….fall perrenials….LMAO

thrylos98 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

ok. Buscher’s gotta sit for a while. He is just stinking it up

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:43 pm

3-2 Sox. AJ 2 run dinger

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:43 pm

AJ, ugh

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:43 pm

Hey Craig….do you suppose you will grow some “cat tails” next year in that spot????

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

Davies 33
Liriano 31

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

Doc,

I hope so. That would be funny.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

Royals are being patient.

DrDon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

Bear down, Francisco!!!! Get the ball down, man.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:46 pm

Cellular field=homer field

Willie Norwood says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:46 pm

hopefully the Bitch Sox will gack up a hairball as well. This looks and sounds a little sleepwalky so far.

Frankie ain’t foolin’ anybody so far.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:46 pm

Damn

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

Liriano needs to pitch better.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

6 hits already. Stop the bleeding please!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:48 pm

They are laying off the slider and sitting on fastball, which is catching too much of the plate.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:48 pm

If I were KC fans I would be pissed that they only show up during the year after they are out of the race.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:48 pm

Asdrubal Cabrera has two errors in as many innings…

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

Frankie is giving us exactly what we don’t need.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

Oh boy. This is not good.

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

He’s crapping out at the exact same time Lewis for Cleveland is.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

How does the division stack up next year?

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

Pull him Gardy. He has nothing.

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

Get Humber ready.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

Cleveland is of no help.

edoggydogg says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

yank him.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

Hey mickey mental,

Is it over now?

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:51 pm

DP needed by both teams right now…

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:52 pm

where did the slider go?

mickey mental says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:53 pm

yes, craig, maybe a few “that’s it, season’s over” posts will help…

edoggydogg says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:53 pm

keep it at 3

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:53 pm

he’s throwing 1 pitch!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:53 pm

Royals are watching 1st pitch, swinging at 2nd pitch fastball.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

4-2 Sox

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

Was that gonna hit the baggie?

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

Well, they need to not throw that fastball as the 2nd pitch then

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:55 pm

Would someone please wake Gardy………

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:55 pm

A couple feet from baggie. Span was camped…

edoggydogg says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:56 pm

pissing it down our leg….

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:56 pm

What the heck Liriano?

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:56 pm

Humber warming………….about time.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:56 pm

Oh wait…

SEASON’S OVER!

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

OK, now we chip, chip, chip away.

mickey mental says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

thanks, t

edoggydogg says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

get him the F out of there.

Willie Norwood says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

Guys, I’ve been convinced that you never give up. I didn’t need to see more proof but, since you’re behind the 8 ball tonight can you prove it one more time? Please?

This is like they think they clinched last night and are fielding a team of Everetts, Ruiz’s and Pridies.

A Royal sweep would be most unseemly.

I bet they wake up soon, but I hope they have enough to get over the hump.

thrylos98 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

alright,

7 innings 5 runs. Better spot than yesterday

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

ok, he’s out of it, Andy needs to talk to him and Mauer…. he has 3 pitches, they need to use em.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

Everyone slready has a hit except Maier…

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

I hope Twins can coax some good pitching out of the pitchers tonight so they can come back….again!

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

mickey mental,

Wasn’t it six weeks ago when it was for sure “all over”. We should have listened to them.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:59 pm

already*

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 7:59 pm

had 3 guys at strike 2 in a row and didn’t throw a slider to one of em

mickey mental says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

craig, six weeks ago it was “all over” for the tenth time.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

45 through 3 for Danks

thrylos98 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

shawn,

I don’t know what is going on with the slider and change either… if you know that someone with throw you a fastball and only a fastball you will hit it. Wonder whether there is a physical issue there

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:01 pm

Nicky confused by a fastball down the middle. That’s a tough pitch. Ha.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:02 pm

There has to be some reason he did not throw his slider.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:02 pm

That’s funny, mickey.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:02 pm

he threw a nasty slider to get out of it. Santana used to abandon a pitch for an inning, next inning, it would be back, i hope that is the case.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:03 pm

strike out
strike out

Come on boys!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:03 pm

hello. swing the damn bat, he’s throwing almost every pitch for a strike!

sane says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:03 pm

Can we stop rebuilding Sunday?

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:03 pm

Davies is throwing fair # of pitches so far …

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:04 pm

the only time we swung the bat was the pitch that wasn’t close to a strike.

Shaun says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:04 pm

Davies seems to be following the Twins’ philosophy of throwing strikes “only.” So the Twins should realize you have to swing!

arschlach says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:05 pm

Sweep party hangover for the batters.

Shaun says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:05 pm

We got owned in that inning.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:06 pm

4-2 Sox after 3

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:06 pm

KC is very good at the spoiler role (although the game is far from over) They have alot of practice at it.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:06 pm

Davies pitch count is high because we are striking out. Not a good stat.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:07 pm

they are on almost every pitch.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:08 pm

Garko homers! 4-3 Sox

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:08 pm

If we lose it’s Gardy’s, Punto’s and mickey mental’s fault. That’s who I’m blaming.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

They are on everything Liriano throws.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

Liriano WTF?!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

what, they can’t hit any ground balls at people?

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

Come on Twins, this would be a huge let down. 9 hits is the same as number of outs Franchise has gotten…

Willie Norwood says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

Geez, it sounds like O’Halloran and Murphy Home in there. Very morgue-like.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:09 pm

The 9th hitter singles on the 10th pitch?!? Oh no…

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:10 pm

Liriano tried. But KC is playing ridiculous.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

Is Liriano also tipping his pitches?

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:11 pm

While I’m a guy who appreciates the potential irony of the Royals doing for the Sox against the Twins in 08 what they did for the Twins against the Tigers in 06…

I don’t need it to actually HAPPEN to appreciate.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

yes nora, he threw like 12 fastballs in a row… i sure knew what was coming

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

he is throwing slider poorly early in count and then fastball over heart of plate. no need to tip pitches with that mess.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:12 pm

“morgue-like.”

You mean, mortuary?

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:13 pm

How in God’s name was he safe there?

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:13 pm

Royals only show up the last month of the season it seems.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:14 pm

a cheap out is nice, the Twins need Liriano to grind out a couple more innings, the bullpen needs a break

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:14 pm

66 pitches for Danks through 4

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:14 pm

Liriano’s putting WAY too much pressure on himself.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

throw the fastball first, then a poorly thrown slider at 2 might still get a swing

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

Go get him, Gardy.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

Liriano needs cheap outs tonight,

mickey mental says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

craig, don’t blame gardy and punto. blame me. i can take it.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

Isn’t our bullpen already tired from lastnight?

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:17 pm

AJ leadoff single

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:18 pm

No kidding Heat. Liriano needs to go at least 5 or 6.

It’d help if the offense could get something started and get a few runs back.

And I have NO idea what the guy at the plate’s whining about that was a bullseye.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:19 pm

Liriano needs to grind…. maybe he will get into a groove, would be useful knowledge for future starts….

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:23 pm

What the heck is going on? Swing the bats!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:23 pm

see ball, hit ball

John Swan says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:24 pm

LaVelle:
I think you got your answer. The Twins
are having a LETDOWN!!!!
Announcers are more interested in Mauer getting the batting title than winning the game……

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:24 pm

Mauer is the only one that seems to swing the bat tonight.

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:25 pm

Morneau up Nordeast!

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:25 pm

mickey,

It was already “all over” last winter. The Twins weren’t a contender. That’s why we needed to trade Johan. I forgot about that. Sheesh, it’s been all over for a long time.

bombat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:26 pm

have the twins been able to stay in first two days in a row in the past two months?

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:26 pm

Mauer .332
Pedroia is idle

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:27 pm

Craig, Santana was dealt because they weren’t going to be able to afford to keep him at the salary he was going to be demanding.

Get your facts straight, you should be better than that.

That said….

Anybody else catch that one line: “Morneau and his fiancee.”

When did THAT happen?

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:28 pm

Sox have yet to win though.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:28 pm

Kubel is awful.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:28 pm

This is all Gardy’s fault. What kind of idiot puts somebody like Morneau in the lineup the way he’s been struggling?

MORON!

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:28 pm

Bases loaded nobody out for the tribe!

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:29 pm

I was invited to the proposal, weren’t you guys?

tim olson says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:29 pm

Kubel had one decent game out of the last 20. Not a very clutch performance.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:29 pm

Twins hitters are either not swinging at all or rolling over on every pitch for very weak ground outs. Except Mauer.

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:29 pm

Come on Cleveland!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:29 pm

Tribe bases loaded no outs top 5

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:29 pm

Davies 63
Liriano 78

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:30 pm

T,

Last winter you told me Santana had to be traded because the Twins weren’t going to be contenders anyway. You are re-writing your personal history.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:30 pm

There you go, Buscher’s out for apparently “no” reason.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:30 pm

Tribe up 5-4.

thrylos98 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:30 pm

5 innings too late that Butcher is out

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:30 pm

Shin-Soo Choo!!!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:31 pm

Danks out of game. runners 1st and 2nd, no outs.

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:31 pm

Danks is gone.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:31 pm

Ozzie yanks Danks!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:32 pm

Liriano settled into a single out. I guess it didn’t last.

Chernobyl says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:32 pm

Ku Ku Ka Choo!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

We better put all of our good vibes into Cleveland.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

Gardy needs to get Liriano out soon as well.

arschlach says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

Liriano needed to be pulled at the end of the 4th. It was clear he had nothing after the 1st.

bombat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

is this the same team as last night?

They are flat!

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

Bye Franchise…

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

switching to sox game. I’ll let you know folks.

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

Well there is no way we can come back from this. We haven’t scored 7 runs since, uh, last night …

(This reasoning worked last night so I thought I try it again)

Shaun says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

See ya Liri.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

Hey T,

It’s good we left Liriano in the game just like you recommended!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

Hawk and DJ are complaining about “taking care of your own business”. Shocking.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

Like right now. Liriano has nothing tonight. Wow.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:34 pm

Last winter you told me Santana had to be traded because the Twins weren’t going to be contenders anyway.

Craig, you fail to pay attention.

Twins needed to trade Santana for two reasons (you ignored the main one)

1) They couldn’t afford to keep him.
2) They were going to have a tough time contending, and were likely going to be unable to deal him if need be mid season.

Thus they had to deal Santana while he:
1) Still had some value.
2) Was open to ANY team that wanted to try and negotiate a new contract instead of midseason when it was contender’s only.

The fact you only read the half of the argument that fits your comeback isn’t my fault.

But good try.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:34 pm

Tribe bases loaded again. Still no outs.

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:34 pm

“is this the same team as last night?
They are flat!”

About the same as last night at this time, actually …

Krissy says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:35 pm

T - Where have you been??? Mornie announced his engagement at Twinsfest in January…

bombat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:35 pm

good point

just doesn’t feel like they will come around tonight. need some momentum

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:36 pm

Grand Slam Tribe!!

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:36 pm

It’s good we left Liriano in the game just like you recommended!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can understand your memory losing track of conversations from 6 months ago…but this was only like 10-15 minutes ago:

Liriano needs to go at least 5 or 6.

Nothing in there saying Gardy should keep him in. Just that the pen needed him to go 5-6.

He didn’t.

God Craig. Keep on trolling, even if you do suck at it.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:36 pm

9-4 Indians. Almost a phenominal catch over center field wall.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:36 pm

Where have you been??? Mornie announced his engagement at Twinsfest in January…

Not at Twinsfest.

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:36 pm

Grand Slame

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:37 pm

Garko hits his second homer! A grand salami!!! 9-4 Tribe!!!!!

johnnyonspot says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:37 pm

In answer to Lavelle’s question: LETDOWN! Once again, the Twinkies make a meatball pitcher look like Cy Young. Keep that fork in them, they’re done!

Twins Fan in SoCal says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:37 pm

Just got in and what happened? Twins cannot handle success, again?? What is up with Liriano - confidence, stuff, bad decisions, or just plain old choking????

Willie Norwood says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:37 pm

Ordinarily, I’d be saying “Go, Tribe” but right now I’m not sure that even that is going to make a difference.

If I didn’t know better I’d say that the White Sox have Twins unis on tonight. C’mon…what did you do with the real Twins? Can we have them back for Saturday and Sunday?

I’m really struck by, not the results, but the difference in the gleam in their eyes from the last three games.

I guess young teams need to learn that the season isn’t over until they put the 162 on the board. Unfortunately, nothing was won last night. I hope they learn that before it’s too late. There are two more game in the regular season after tonight.

Good news is if they get a fire lit under their tails as they battle them off tonight, they may come back yet tonight.

C’mon guys!!!

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:37 pm

Thank the baseball gods. You’d think seeing Liriano collapsing would motivate the Sox to not do the same.

The Twins should be motivated to at least TRY a comeback.

Shaun says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:38 pm

Thank you Cleveland.

Nice one Humber.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:38 pm

Cleveland hit batter. Sox are completely falling apart. Um, just like we are.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:38 pm

T,

Does that mean you were only kidding when you called me a troll last winter, every time I said the Twins would be contenders?

Twins Fan in SoCal says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:38 pm

Hey! Indians 9 Sox 4 in 5th

Krissy says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:38 pm

I didnt go to Twinsfest either, but I listened to all the player interviews.

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:38 pm

HBP for the Tribe - keep it rolling!

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:38 pm

Well, Spoilers are doing their jobs tonight.

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:39 pm

Let the Twins rally begin now!

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:39 pm

johnnyonthespot so on the spot he’s actually travelled to the future and seen the end of the game.

And Willie, I totally agree. Twins need to track down that spark that kicked in last night and harness it again.

If Cleveland can hold on, the Twins should thank their lucky stars that the wakeup call wasn’t also last call.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:40 pm

Now might be a good time to ask this…

Who here is rooting for the Brewers?

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:40 pm

Does that mean you were only kidding when you called me a troll last winter, every time I said the Twins would be contenders?

I called you a troll because you were suggesting they trade Morneau for pitching.

And also because you were trolling.

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:40 pm

Liriano looked like Perkins tonight.

bombat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:40 pm

can the AL central give up their playoff spot so the yankees can continue their streak?

Twins Fan in SoCal says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:40 pm

You all know that the LA Angels of Anaheim are going all the way (IF the Twins don’t) - two similar teams with a huge diff - a power hitter and an 8th inning guy (except Mijares is looking very good)

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:40 pm

Who here is rooting for the Brewers?

I’m indifferent to the NL at this point. ;)

Twins Fan in SoCal says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:40 pm

. . . oh and a much better manager

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:40 pm

hey, are my posts coming thru? because you people keep repeating me on Sox updates.

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:41 pm

How ’bout this: ChiSox are toast and there is no way KC shuts us down for 9 innings. We are 1.5 up in 2 hours.

Hoof_Hearted says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:41 pm

twins may get lucky with both teams losing

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:41 pm

Hawk just said; “Hey, Sox aren’t out of this thing by any stretch of the imagination!” Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Good one.

Twins Fan in SoCal says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:42 pm

Who here is rooting for the Brewers?

Nope - Still hoping for a miracle for the ‘Stros

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:42 pm

Buscher throwing up?

Uh…is this team playing hung over?

That would explain why they’re not encouraging the crowd to make noise right now.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:42 pm

T,

How about when I said Delmon would hit 8-9 HR. You kept calling me a troll when I said that. That wasn’t very nice. I guess I was wrong. He already has hit 10.

Were you the guy who said he would hit 28, or the guy who said he would hit 36?

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:42 pm

The ever patient Delmon …

Shaun says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:43 pm

Buscher is a lightweight!

Twins Fan in SoCal says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:43 pm

Sox are in MAJOR CHOKE mode - another hit batter !!

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:44 pm

Craig, I was the guy who figured about 20.

And again Craig, I called you a troll because you were being a trol. When you making your suggestions regarding the “color factor” when the Twins were dealing with Johan, Silva, and Hunter.

Or when you suggested Morneau should be traded for pitching.

But again, feel free to ignore the facts.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:44 pm

Two batters hit in a row for the tribe!

Shaun says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:44 pm

I want the Brewers to make it since most of my family are Brew Crew fans.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:45 pm

T,

Sorry I said the Twins would be contenders. I was such a troll. You were right. They had no chance.

bombat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:45 pm

i want the brewers to get in so i can see if prince fielder is really that fat in HD

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:46 pm

Brewers/Twins would make a fun midwest matchup (would piss off the National networks though)

But both of’em gotta get in the postseason first…

bombat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

come on now, get a couple atleast. need to start chipping away

sane says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

Throwdown or letdown?

Throw-up and letdown.

La Velle says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

Just updated the Buscher injury up top

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

Sorry I said the Twins would be contenders. I was such a troll. You were right. They had no chance.

Craig, honest question…

When you see a post that proves you wrong, do you actively block out that you ever read it? Or do you just guess what the poster said and post accordingly?

bombat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

punto better bunt!

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

Come on Punto

bombat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

just as good

Twins Fan in SoCal says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:49 pm

Twins need to chip away and then, bam! Double or HR

bombat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:49 pm

rally killer

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:50 pm

“When you see a post that proves you wrong,”

What post would that be?

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:50 pm

What a horrible base running move. Why let the pitcher cut you down when you can do it yourself…

Twins Fan in SoCal says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:50 pm

Was he safe?????????????????

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:51 pm

Buscher was vomiting from watching Liriano pitch.

tim olson says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:51 pm

Too bad they make Young run with all that extra weight on his back. Otherwise he could have scored.

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:51 pm

“Was he safe?????????????????”

no, not even close.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:51 pm

So was I…well, almost.

bombat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

it was close but i think he was tagged out.

Twins Fan in SoCal says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

They are putting WAY TOO MUCH PRESSURE on themselves once again - looks like a shutout or a blow out tonight. Watch, tomorrow they’ll be totally different - just another day in a mostly young and rookie team.

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

What a poor offense performance so far. At least the Whities will probably lose as well.

Shaun says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

Grrrrrrrrr

jon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

“When you see a post that proves you wrong,”

“What post would that be?”

“Lamb is going nowhere.”

Twins Fan in SoCal says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:53 pm

the TV replay showed a clear miss tag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AaronK says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:53 pm

I don’t think he tagged him, they showed that replay multiple times, but it doesn’t matter. Ump will call that out 9 out of 10.

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

I’m so sick of LNP and Gardy’s favoritism.

Twins Fan in SoCal says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

I think I will go back and watch to REAL contenders - - Obama and McCain!! ;-)

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

That was a great bare-handed play

Twins Fan in SoCal says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

P U T R O ! ! ! ! !

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

“Craig, I was the guy who figured about 20.”

Oh. Well almost.

jon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

He is out for being stupid - gambling to score six runs down.

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

“the TV replay showed a clear miss tag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Watch it again. He missed at first but clearly got him on the hand well before the plate.

bombat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

i agree the replay showed he may not have been tagged, but it wasn’t that close of a play and the ump had the thumb up before Delmon was half way there.

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

Wow, this is embarrassing. Especially after yesterday. Twins are playing like they are hung over.

Twins Fan in SoCal says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:55 pm

Know that Royals have been playing WAY OVER THEIR HEADS (unconscious) the past 3 weeks. I knew this was going to be a very tough weekend.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:56 pm

Humber….did the Twins give up a player for this guy?

Ha.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:56 pm

9-6 Tribe. Dye 2 run dinger

Twins Fan in SoCal says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:57 pm

9-6 Indians 2 run HR by Sox

bombat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:57 pm

why can’t the sox just give up like the twins?

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

Delmon isn’t a very good player is he?

TC fan in LA says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

sox got 2 back already, 9-6

I hate the sox even more says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

I knew this team would let me down. They always do. I was premature to say I would eat crow. This season is over.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

can T and craig take this elsewhere?

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 8:59 pm

This is getting painful to watch.

arschlach says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

This game sux, the candidate’s debate is boring, and so I’ll just watch ChiSox-Indians play by play. This Twins game can’t end quick enough.

Twins Fan in SoCal says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

Wow - a good ol’ whoopin’ folks - see ya tomorrow night. Have the Twinks take two and come back tomorrow night in better shape or good night and till next April.

Willie Norwood says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

Hopefully a) The Sux will lose (they keep rising from the dead in this game tonight) and b) the boys will realize that they have a couple more reg. season games to play and that the sweep made them the Kings of Nothing.

I would guess they’ll be in a way different mode tomorrow and Sunday. But we really need Cleve. to hold on.

jon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:01 pm

“I hate the sox even more,

If the Twins gave up as often as you do, they would be 0-162.
You surrender faster than the Italian Army.

TC fan in LA says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:02 pm

bats need to wake up this inning.

They Drive me Nuts says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:02 pm

This team should be ashamed of how they came out and mailed in a horrible performance. Not like it matters, Twins or Sox would get their butts kicked in the playoff anyway.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:03 pm

Shawn,

About every 2 months I have a fight with T, but I like the guy.

I’m done for a couple months.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

there’s just enough bile for the night with the teams performance and the blog in general, don’t need extra

Willie Norwood says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

It’s about getting into the playoffs and then who knows?

I think back to the 87 Twins and if there had been blogs the comment about “why bother getting in, they’ll get killed” would have been prevalent. Same with the last Cardinals championship.

Let’s get in and then worry about our chances. Anything can happen once you’re in.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

Span, what a nice player.

One last note: T called me a troll when I said Span could be the Twins center fielder, last winter.

Okay, I’m done.

I hate the sox even more says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

What can I say. I just call ‘em the way I see ‘em. Mad props to the fellas for a great year though.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

why go back to 87? just go back to last night to read the idiots saying it’s all over.

jon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

“This team should be ashamed of how they came out and mailed in a horrible performance”

Liriano had the “horrible performance”, but that happens to all pitchers at times.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:07 pm

Go to http://www.southsidesox.com to read some real crappy fans.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:08 pm

Twins lead the majors in triples

I hate the sox even more says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:08 pm

Willie, may I remind you that if we get in the playoffs this is a Minnesota team. Historically we get our nuts shaved every time.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:08 pm

liriano was bad and didn’t adjust, davies has been pretty darn good with his curve…. if it was closer, he is almost done pitch wise…. need Morneau and Kubel to do something here

jon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:09 pm

“What can I say. I just call ‘em the way I see ‘em.”

You mean every game when you quit on them?

Willie Norwood says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:09 pm

How old are you? We’ve been to and won World Series. Get in and take your chances.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:10 pm

“why bother winning because we’ll lose again eventually.” The idiocy of people never cease to amaze me.

TC fan in LA says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:11 pm

if there was any debate about morneau for mvp, i think his recent perfomanced has silenced it.

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:12 pm

Two runs in every inning will tie the game.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

so who is the MVP? Quinten from Sox? Who hasn’t played, and who’s team won’t make the playoffs?

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

“why go back to 87? just go back to last night to read the idiots saying it’s all over.”

The best comment ever on this site …

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

Looks like the Rays are going to clinch the AL East tonight…

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:14 pm

That is the second infield hit the tank has hit against the twins this year…

jon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:15 pm

Its called disassociation.

If your team may lose, pretend they are not REALLY your team and you knew all along they were going to lose.

Historically, it is defeatism and collaboration with the enemy.

TC fan in LA says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:15 pm

pedroia

Adam says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:16 pm

MVP= (assuming Twins win division)
1) Morneau
2) Pedroia
3) Mauer
4) Youkilis
5) Quentin
6) Hamilton
7) Guerrero
8) Dye
9) M. Cabrera
10) F. Rodriguez

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:18 pm

Too many good players on Red Sox. Pedroia was one of them, maybe the best. But without him, they still make playoffs. Without Morneau, Twins finish in 3rd.

kirby91 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:19 pm

Can you say hangover? Not me the Twins. All talk of playoffs, MVP’s and the like are way to premature at this point.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:19 pm

Adam,

What about Bartlett? Rays sportswriters voted him the team MVP.

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:19 pm

Wow, come on Twins. Apparently you guys do not want to win tonight…

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:19 pm

Tribe bases loaded. 2 outs. Still 9-6 Cleveland. Sox bringing in new pitcher Wasserman.

TC fan in LA says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

mac, i do not disagree with your logic, but pedroia wins it. east coast media.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

Bases loaded, 2 outs for tribe

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:21 pm

Kansas City came in on fire, and their pitcher did an outstanding job. Let’s call it lucky when the Sox lose and move on to tomorrow.

Adam says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:22 pm

I would like to see a RAY in the top 10, but none have the numbers even close to anyone in the top 10. Longoria but he was out too long. Hard to imagine Bartlett getting a vote…

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:22 pm

East Coast media? Like in 2006 when Morneau beat Jeter? Not buying it. Morneau has two more games to make the writers make the easy choice. Otherwise, it’s very close.

tim olson says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:22 pm

Boy, I hope they get this stinko out of their system. Flatter than a pancake, with THE SEASON on the line. Well, a double loss tonite (if it happens) will still keep them in first for another day. Otherwise if the Sox come back, ouch.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:22 pm

east coasters rarely win the MVP

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:23 pm

Tribe walked with bases loaded. 10-6 Cleveland. Still 2 outs.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:23 pm

bases loaded walk…. 2 teams hungover

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:23 pm

Sox walk in a run, 10-6

jon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:25 pm

“What about Bartlett? Rays sportswriters voted him the team MVP.”

Thats true, but its ludicrous.

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:25 pm

Twins came in hot too, taking 5 of 7 from two division leaders. 7 out of the last 8 royal wins are against two of the worst teams in baseball.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:25 pm

10-6 Cleveland. Going to bottom of 6th.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:25 pm

Did Dr. Don pass out already?

TC fan in LA says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:25 pm

except for a-rod in ‘05 and ‘07.

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:26 pm

“Wow, come on Twins. Apparently you guys do not want to win tonight…”

Come on everyone. This is not junior high … they aren’t playing well but I’m fairly sure they want to win …

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:27 pm

Pinch-runner, Gardy.

Chernobyl says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:27 pm

Who prepared the Twins for tonight’s game…Pete Carroll?

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:27 pm

They aren’t playing like it. This is not junior high but it does feel like AAA

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:28 pm

Take out Kubel’s 20 HR’s for a chance to score 1 run?

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:28 pm

Royals are still major leaguers. And I’m fairly certain they’ve kicked the crap out of a team or two this year.

Adam says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:28 pm

Not to worry, Twins got the next 2, they just neeeded a day off. CHicago is gonna get swept anyway

Adam says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:29 pm

they dont wanna have to clinch by watching the sox get swept tomorrow nighgt, they rather clinch it by winning on sunday

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:29 pm

Wow, Delmon take the walk.

jon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:30 pm

eaa,
The Twins only wanted to win 87 times so far this year.
The other 73 games, they “just didn’t want to win”.
I don’t know why.
They just didn’t want to win those games.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:30 pm

Oh, I didn’t know Kubel was going to hit 20 HR’s tonight. I thought he would most likely hit how many he usually does: Zero.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

Everybody “usually” hits zero home runs. But the good ones hit one about every 5 games.

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

“The Twins only wanted to win 87 times so far this year. The other 73 games, they “just didn’t want to win. I don’t know why. They just didn’t want to win those games.”

I blame that on Rick Stelmazek and Nate Dammen, the bullpen catcher.

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

A HR cuts the lead in half…

sane says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

Some days, you are the dog.
Some days, you are the hydrant.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

Slow guys on base.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

Harris will start tomorrow.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:34 pm

10-6 Tribe after 6

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:34 pm

“Oh, I didn’t know Kubel was going to hit 20 HR’s tonight. I thought he would most likely hit how many he usually does: Zero.”

Huh? My point is why take his bat out for a runner who, by the way, would have scored anyway.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:35 pm

Can the Twins get a few to breathe life into the rest of the series?

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:35 pm

your’re going to lose 40 -45% of your games as a decent team…. this is just 1 of 73

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:36 pm

At least the White Sox are losing their must win game…

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:36 pm

Dick and Bert and really hurting for material tonight …

Shaun says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:36 pm

Gomez limping…ugh.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:37 pm

bases loaded walk…. 2 teams hungover

Sox and Twins both hitting the bottle a bit harder than they should’ve after last night.

Two completely different reasons, but similar outcomes none the less.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:37 pm

Hey, I know. Let’s complain about how Gardy screwed up our bullpen and we would have won (insert made up number here) games more, and these games wouldn’t have mattered because we would have clinched the division already, and I know more than Gardy because I have a crappy job and spend all day on the blogs, and I think if some of these same people were in front of me I’d punch them in the face!

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:38 pm

Prediction: Twins make the postseason, proceed to get down 2-0 in the first series, 3-0 in the second, and then sweep their way through the World Series.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:38 pm

Leadoff single for Asdrubal

2010 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

I REALLY WISH EVERYONE WOULD STOP COMPLAINING. THE TWINS PLAYED A HELL OF A SERIES AGAINST THE WHITE SOX AND ARE PLAYING A HOT TEAM AS ARE THE WHITE SOX. PERKINS MISSED HIS LAST START AND HOPEFULLY CAN PITCH BETTER THAN LIRIANO DID. IT IS ONE GAME AND ONE GAME OFF THE SCHEDULE AND THE WHITE SOX ARE GOING TO LOSE TOO SO QUIT COMPLAINING.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:40 pm

Leadoff single for Asdrubal

Gesundite.

Now, who got the leadoff single?

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:41 pm

After the game is done, I highly recommend watching US Marshalls on TNT. That was back when Wesley was actually paying his taxes…

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:41 pm

“Hey, I know. Let’s complain about how Gardy screwed up our bullpen and we would have won (insert made up number here) games more, and these games wouldn’t have mattered because we would have clinched the division already, and I know more than Gardy because I have a crappy job and spend all day on the blogs …”

Not to speak of those who aren’t here … but I believe thrylos would say that Gardy has cost us 5 games.

jon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:41 pm

My call.
The Twins will get swept.
The White Sox will get swept.
The White Sox will beat the Tigers, Monday.
The Twins will beat the White Sox Tuesday.

The Twins won’t beat anyone but the White Sox, until 2009.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:42 pm

Kubel is going to hit a bunch of HR tonight, before this one is over.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:43 pm

Macleod, don’t forget to also criticize the front office for not going and getting (insert random player they didn’t get) instead of (insert player they went and got) because obviously (insert statistic following trade).

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:43 pm

Not to speak of those who aren’t here … but I believe thrylos would say that Gardy has cost us 5 games.

I think you’re right.

Of course, it’s been 5 games since about half way through the season.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:45 pm

its clear who’s fault it is:
Frank Stallone

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:45 pm

11-6

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:45 pm

Tribe first and third

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

My head almost exploded trying to imitate all the naysayers, I couldn’t make it on to the front office. “I told you they would lose tonight”. Actually, no. You jerks told me the Twins would finish in 4th place in this division because we “let” Hunter and Santana go. I don’t give a crap anymore what people say. I am ungodly happy with this team, and I look forward to watching them in the post season, where they will undoubtedly “lose every game”.

jon says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

Thrylos would say that Gardy has cost us 73 losses since the season started.
The players should all be absolved of all blame.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

So. Who’s blowing it more?

Twins at home against KC or Sox at home against Cleveland?

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:47 pm

Macleod,

how about a beer!

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:48 pm

Pick a name!

Asdrubal Cabrera
Shin-Soo Choo
Jhonny Peralta

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:48 pm

1 loss after 4 wins isn’t blowing it

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:48 pm

Gardy is especially to blame for tonight’s game.

Putting the ice cold Morneau, the bum Liriano, and that loser Young in the lineup.

This team needs Bartlett. There’s some pop you can count on.

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:49 pm

Tough call T. Both have the same argument … if we had won … though the Twins could have clinched a tie tomorrow with win tonight.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:49 pm

how about this? Davies is to blame for this game.

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:50 pm

“Macleod, how about a beer!”

I’ve heard Summit is good …

sane says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:50 pm

“So. Who’s blowing it more?”

Neither team is “blowing it”.
They are losing to Major League teams with Major League players who are playing better than they are tonight.

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:51 pm

“how about this? Davies is to blame for this game.”

Yep

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:52 pm

and Summit is good

I am drinking Southern Tier Brewing Company’s “Phin and Matt’s Extraordinary Ale”

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:54 pm

Lets stop playing the blame game please…No team wins every game.

thrylos98 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:55 pm

hey,

guess what? this game doesn’t matter (as long as cleveland is able to finish that game)

but what matter is:

a. the MVP has been flat for a week (heck, if I had a vote for MVP I would vote for Youkilis based on that)

b. the youngsters are making it happen; and yes they need more encouragement.

c. methinks that the palesox will get swept by the Indians and that the Twins will win at least one game against the Royals (the last series was such an emotional and physical drain for all so letdowns were expected)

d. let’s go Twins (win it all - and darn, if they get the TB series done and Boston beats the Angels, all they need to win is their home games - and yes, I repredict this will be Twins vs. the Mets with Frankie beating Johan in games 1 and 7.)

e. and that debate really sucked (like this game) and go vote for the smart one (but that was James Taylor’s words 4 years ago)

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:55 pm

On a plus side, Twins bullpen gives up 2 runs over 5 innings.

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:56 pm

Boys, thanks for picking me up. I’m cracking another beer! But I bet you already knew that.

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:57 pm

Cisco had nothing, and the other guy pitched great. It happens.

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:57 pm

Yashiko Yabuta!

MAUER FOR MVP says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:57 pm

On a plus side, Guardado was better.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

sane, you should know by now there’s a certain level of sarcasm in about 90% of what i say.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

Twins/Mets would be awesome, i’d have to hit Shea for a game…. not looking good for the mest though

Heatonator says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

Yasuhiko*

Krissy says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

“Shake” Yabuta on to pitch!!!!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

Nobody panic. We’re still a half game up. But the season just got shorter, so we’re in better shape than 24 hours ago.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

Just don’t start woring your slurds.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:00 pm

why can’t they do better than 30600 on a Friday in 1st? there are no home football games this weekend

sane says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

T,
“sane, you should know by now there’s a certain level of sarcasm in about 90% of what i say.”

I know.
But I am having a hard time identifying which 10% is serious.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

Oh. Sorry. That’s the 10% I say places other than here. ;)

The New and Improved Craig says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:06 pm

I should have watched the debate. I hear McCain and Obama got in a big brawl. Lot of punches thrown.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:08 pm

i see our politions are baseball bloggers

thrylos98 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:10 pm

Craig,

no punches thrown… you wouldn’t punch another person’s senile grandpa, would ya?

eaa says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:11 pm

Good outlook by a lot of you. Off to watch the debate. thyrols i hope point e. by you means the senator from IL - if not ya’ll need to watch the Curic/Palin interview. But this is not the politcs forum …
Go twins …

thrylos98 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:12 pm

shawn,

I.C. light is back in production and in full force… methinks you should try to get some. It kicks

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:13 pm

Okay, right now Joe Mauer is hitting .330798 and Pedroia is hitting .325116.

Worst case scenario, Pedroia goes 10-10 and Mauer goes 0-10 the next two games. Their averages would be Mauer: .324627, Pedroia: .335357.

More likely case: Mauer goes 1-7 and Pedroia goes 4-7. Their averages would be Mauer: .328330, Pedroia: .327744.

So basically Mauer only needs 1 or 2 more hits to seal his title…

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:14 pm

IC light is back? hmmm

wasn’t that swill or am i thinking of something else

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:15 pm

11-7 top of the eighth. And remember, Jenks is unavailable…

Chernobyl says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:18 pm

Sox announcers are still whining over the umpiring in the last series…Hawk says the Sox “probably would have taken 2 of 3″ with better umpires. Hilarious!

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:18 pm

its funny, when the fiance send me soap shopping or something, i need her to write it down.

when i send her beer shopping, i need to write it down.

dana says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:19 pm

Thyros, Obama isn’t that senile yet.

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:20 pm

Sox would have taken 2 of 3 if they weren’t dominated by the twins…

dana says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

Hawk is a pathetic announcer.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:22 pm

Chernobyl, Losers turn into whiners. When you start blaming everything but the players like Hawk does, you are in serious denial. Look at tonight. Who is Hawk blaming this game on? LOL

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

Unless the WSox miraculously win their game (wouldn’t be surprised since Cleveland’s bullpen stinks), the Twins magic number is 3.

dana says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:25 pm

I was fearing this Royals series…a young team with nothing to play for and loose as a goose. The Sox still have to play Monday if they are tied. Where is that game to be played?

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

Cleveland is 5 outs away from bailing out the twins

Steve H says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:28 pm

dana they would play in Chicago

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

2 on, one out for the sox…

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

Gatty the Sox are chipping away at that lead. 11-7 and two Sox on base, one out in the eighth.

Steve H says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

gatty is that the good news or the bad news, Betancourt is pitching for the Tribe and Whities have two on and one out

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:32 pm

Two outs

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:35 pm

11-8 Sox

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:36 pm

Sorry, 11-8 Indians

dana says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:36 pm

thanks Steve

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:37 pm

Dye can tie it up with a HR

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:37 pm

Whew! Jermaine Dye flied out!

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:37 pm

Whew…inning over.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:38 pm

Twins losing, Sox losing, LAA losing, Rays losing, Boston losing.

It’s a bad night for the playoff hopefulls. (In the AL anyway)

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

But he doesn’t and this game is all but sealed.

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

Thome leads off the ninth. I don’t mind him leading off an inning. He scares me any other time.

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

Won’t be bad for the Rays if Boston loses…

Steve H says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

Maybe the Indians will bring Juan Ricon in th try and get the save! Who is the closer for them?

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

Jensen Lewis is.

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

The White Sox game is televised on WGN tomorrow night, if anyone is interested.
That didn’t come out right, of course you’re interested. But we better take care of our own business. Sure wish Morny would go on a tear.

John Swan says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

Bench the 1st base man. He in a slump.
Don’t care about no MVP.
Or batting title for the catch man.
Bench him too.
We need to win games for the team, not
worry about individual titles!

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

If the Twins do make the playoffs I like their chances against Tampa a lot more than if they played Boston.

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:42 pm

Come on Indians just three more outs.

Steve H says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:43 pm

Sure, he is allowed to pitch in the 8th inning? Goes against Gardy’s rules you know, no closer in the 8th inning no matter what!

Macleod says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:43 pm

Indians aren’t “bailing out” the Twins. The Twins “bailed” themselves out by sweeping the Sox.

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:44 pm

I could see the Twins upsetting the Rays and the Angels. Then we would get get to clean up on a National League team in the World Series. If we can just get by the last place Royals.

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:44 pm

Hamilton now has 128 RBI

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:45 pm

Thome just walked.

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:46 pm

That clown Jerry Lewis for the Indians had to walk Thome to lead off the ninth.

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:46 pm

Come on give the Hawk a DP.

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:47 pm

1 out.

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:47 pm

To second for one, to first for two.
DOUBLE PLAY! ! !

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:47 pm

thank you cleveland

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:47 pm

JUST WISHFUL THINKING.

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

Oh okay, so if Cleveland loses the twins are still in first place right? Cleveland, if they hold on, bailed the twins out, as in kept them in first. Correct me if I am wrong.

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

By gosh that came true! I must be psychotic.

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

How can they give the player of the game to Dotel? Does it have to be a White Sux player?

mickey mental says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

can somebody help me out? so is the twins season over? or not?

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

Holy crap, he needed two pitches to get three outs. What a quick end to the game. Magic number is down to 3.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

If the Twins make the playoffs, they’ve got the 4-game split at LAA and the split at TB as motivation.

All they need to do is win one on the road to get back home. But they’ve shown they can win a couple if the opposition isn’t careful.

I’m truly scared of Boston, as the Twins have shown this season they still play in awe when facing a team like that.

A strong finish to the season would be a HUGE motivator. I’d rather see the Twins win it on Sunday so they have a few days to get it together.

If they were to have to win in Chicago, I worry they’d get on the same emotional high that cost them tonight’s game.

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

Physic?
Psykick?
Whatever, we are in first for another day.

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:50 pm

Garko is the clear player of the game for crying out loud…

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:51 pm

How can they give the player of the game to Dotel? Does it have to be a White Sux player?

The classy thing would be to not name a player of the game in a losing effort. Don’t think the Twins do.

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:51 pm

Who else thinks that if Perkins has another bad game that they should trade him to China for a bag of rice?

Chernobyl says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:51 pm

Thank you Indians…feel free to beat the Sox again tomorrow.

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:51 pm

Twins took three of four from Boston at the dome. And we would have home field advantage against them in the playoffs…

Steve H says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

What a slug fest they had going on in Chicago, Twins were just slugs tonight. At least the Whities scored some runs, Twins are saving theirs. Time for a two game winning streak starting tomorrow. Twins need to come out and pitch good and hit, run and score. MVP needs to step up and start slugging (Kubel too)

Chernobyl says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

Buckwheat–what do you have against China?

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:53 pm

Twins have named opposing players as player of the game before. A lot of times they name the opposing pitcher the player of the game if he pitched well.

Bullmoose says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:53 pm

Twins dodged a bullet. Man, Liriano couldn’t have picked a worse time to lay an egg.

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:54 pm

I’m for Cleveland because Ozzie Guillen made a choking sign at them one time.
Cleveland needs to be reminded of that frequently this weekend.

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:54 pm

I want to see Morneau have some good at bats. He’s in some kind of funk right now and it would be nice to see him get some momentum for the playoffs (if we do make it).

2010 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:54 pm

on espn it says in the “hunt for october” that the white sox have a 54.9% chance of making the playoffs and the twins is 45.1%. why would the white sox have that higher percentage even though the twins have one more win? not that it matters but i am just curious.

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:56 pm

Maybe Morneau is saving up for that opportunity to send his team to the playoffs by himself and seal up the MVP voting. I’d rather he just strung together two solid games and we win.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

They would rather have the higher market teams make it and they are wishing (in vain imo) for a cubs-white sox series.

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

The White Sox have a higher percentage because they currently have that one extra game they can potentially play.

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

White Sox have more home games than the twins remaining, but it is puzzling why they have a 54.9% chance.

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

2010:
I always hear it’s that “all important loss column” difference. I can’t remember the exact numbers.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:58 pm

Who is Hawk blaming for this loss? Surely not any of his beloved Sox players. LOL

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 10:58 pm

2010,

it is nowchanged to 66 twins 34 whities

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 11:00 pm

Because of that stupid game that has yet to be made up. Wish they could have gotten that one in.

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 11:00 pm

On the Sox Website a fan poll had about those same numbers, Shawn.

Shawn in Binghamton says:

September 26th, 2008 at 11:00 pm

look up Hawk on wikipedia, he was an aweful GM

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 11:00 pm

Must have been from the ‘extra’ loss the twins had before the Sox lost…

T says:

September 26th, 2008 at 11:01 pm

If the Twins win out and the Sox win out, the division is tied.

The Sox then host the Twins in the tiebreaker.

That could be where the Sox would have a potential edge.

But now it looks like they’re not longer at an advantage. Is this considering that Lee won’t be pitching Saturday?

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 11:01 pm

Why exactly did it change that much? Twin reduced their magic number but did not win. I don’t get it.

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 11:02 pm

Because it’s MAGIC, Nora! Don’t try to figure it out!

Buckwheat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 11:03 pm

Tomorrow is a day game for the Twins,which kind of scares me. But I like the fact they play before the White Sux so they can’t do any scoreboard watching. They should play knowing they have to take care of their own business.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 11:04 pm

Is it official that Lee will not pitch? Either way with the way the Sox are playing lately I don’t know if it matters. They are losing to good and bad pitchers.

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 11:05 pm

The White Sox have lost four in a row. They have four more home games. I think they are far from out of it.

gatty790 says:

September 26th, 2008 at 11:06 pm

Magic number is a combination of white sox losses and/or twins wins. If the twins won and the WSox won today, the magic number drops by one since the twins won. If the Twins had won and the Sox lost, the magic number would drop by two.

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 11:07 pm

Haven’t they lost 6 of 8 though? They are not out of it but they are not playing well.

Mudcat says:

September 26th, 2008 at 11:12 pm

Here are the next three pitchers for Chicago:
Vazquez (12-15)
Buehrle (14-12)
Floyd (16-8)

The Indians are throwing three rookies, I have heard. The home field advantage is so important. Especially the bottom of the tenth!

Nora says:

September 26th, 2008 at 11:13 pm

All those pitchers you mentioned are on short rest as well though/ Not usually a good thing.

sane says:

September 27th, 2008 at 12:00 am

The Indians could have thrown Cliff Lee, Fausto Carmona, CC Sabathia, Scott Lewis, Paul Byrd and Jake Westbrook ……………………………if they still had them.

Mudcat says:

September 27th, 2008 at 12:04 am

Right, sane. But, rookie pitchers? They can’t get anybody out!

Wait a minute………………

Nora says:

September 27th, 2008 at 12:04 am

Am I missing something? Where is the link to the article that says that Lee is definately not pitching?

Nora says:

September 27th, 2008 at 12:07 am

Vazquez can’t seem to get anyone out either.

AgateHunter'swife says:

September 27th, 2008 at 12:10 am

I want the “Thursday” Twins back!

What did you guys do with them?

Go Twins Go!!!

Mudcat says:

September 27th, 2008 at 12:21 am

I can’t find the Carl Lee link I just read earlier. He said his neck was stiff. He thinks he slept on it wrong. I’ve had that happen many times. Pretty sure his would be OK by Sunday (wuss). I can’t help but think he’s still mad because the Twins beat him earlier and Carlos said “He say a bad thing to me.”
Read Howard Sinker’s blog today for a good interview transcript with Gomez, from last night.

Nora says:

September 27th, 2008 at 12:45 am

Still haven’t seen anything official. He is questionable though that much has been said.

Nora says:

September 27th, 2008 at 12:46 am

I have looked for an article saying he is definately out, can’t find one.

Nora says:

September 27th, 2008 at 12:47 am

Hopefully he ‘mans up’ as Joe C. said. If this was an important game to the Indians would he pitch. I bet he would.

Twins Fan in SoCal says:

September 27th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

DPs are killing any chance at rallies!!! :-(

Rob says:

September 27th, 2008 at 6:21 pm

4-2..If we cannot beat a terrible KC team 2 of 3 we have NO business in first…And if that is the way it will go then welcome to first Sox…

zonagoph says:

September 27th, 2008 at 6:41 pm

Dear Mr. Gardenhire,

STOP USING GUERRIER!

Thank you for considering this request.

Sincerely,
TwinsNation

Need brains...in addition to heart. says:

September 27th, 2008 at 6:42 pm

I’m sick of all this talk about the Twinkies having heart. How ’bout having some brains too! Mauer walks the bases loaded and up comes our non-MVP Morneau who swings at the very first pitch and grounds into a double play. Nice job, Justin Moron! And what’s with Gardy taking out Perkins after only 85 pitches and only 4 hits to put in Boof. Gardy can think about that move next week when he’s bowling.

TK(2) says:

September 28th, 2008 at 5:22 am

*Twins Territory.

(Not Nation).