Mijares, Leyland, Laird fined. Bonderman, McClendon suspended
Posted on October 2nd, 2009 – 4:36 PMBy La Velle
Jose Mijares has been fined an undisclosed amount for throwing behind Adam Everett during Thursday’s game with the Tigers. Since the action occurred before the warning was issued, Mijares avoided a suspension.
But Jeremy Bonderman plunked Delmon Young after the warning was issued. So Bonderman was fined and suspended three games. Hitting coach Lloyd McClendon was fined and suspended one game, since he was running the team when the plunking occurred. Jim Lelyand and Gerald Laird were fined.
“By their own admission, their pitcher made a mistake,” Leyland said Friday to the Detroit Free Press. “I’m just sad to see the Tigers pay so much more for the mistake than the guy who made the mistake.”
Mijares said today that he felt bad about how he handled the situation and planned to apologize to the team before the game.
Brendan Harris is the DH today, probably because he had two hits and a sacrifice fly off Lenny DiNardo in Kansas City last Saturday.
Orlando Cabrera is 1-for-11 against DiNardo. Joe Mauer is 1-for-7.
About 45,000 fans are expected here tonight. Just saw Rod Carew outside the Twins clubhouse. It’s going to be an exciting night.
Update: Gardy said that Brian Duensing is available out of the bullpen tonight if needed. If he does pitch, Carl Pavano would probably start on Sunday.
“We’ve got to win three games,” he said. “That’s’ what we’re gonna try to do.”
Lineups
Kansas City (65-94)
1. Willie Bloomquist, LF
2. Mitch Maier, CF
3. Billy Butler, 1B
4. Bryan Pena, DH
5. Alberto Callaspo, 2B
6. Mark Teahen, RF
7. Miguel Olivo, C
8. Alex Gordon, 3B
9. Yuniesky Betancourt, SS
Pitching: Lenny DiNardo, LHP 0-2, 7.52
Twins (83-76)
1. Denard Span, CF
2. Orlando Cabrera, SS
3. Joe Mauer, C
4. Jason Kubel, RF
5. Michael Cuddyer, 1B
6. Delmon Young, LF
7. Bredan Harris, DH
8. Matt Tolbert, 3B
9. Nick Punto, 2B
Pitching: Jeff Manship, RHP 0-1,5.81
450 Responses to "Mijares, Leyland, Laird fined. Bonderman, McClendon suspended"
owwwww…Manship pitching…need to get the bats going early and often.
The offense needs to break out tonight, Manship really scares me and another junk lefty worries me too regardless of the last time we faced him.
Whinner Leyland and the kittens on ESPN at 6pm central hosting the (I never thought I’d say it: GO AJ GO!! not OJ, AJ!!!) Two TVs going… Carlos, Konerko, cmon boys…
So despite so Gardy haters killing him for his public response to the whole incident, he played it just right and helped avoid and suspension penalty to his team.
Don’t always agree with him but this was a good move on his part.
Go HARRIS!!!
Win TWINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hosting our White Sox 
Is anyone in Detoilette going to miss any time this year? They’ll just appeal and be suspended next year, right?
Maybe they’ll put live broadcasts on the dome screen of the Tigers/White Sox game during the inning breaks…. you can bet the suite tvs will have the ESPN game on…..
“hosting our White Sox”
Sheeessss, I’m starting to twitch like Nathan reading that, Joe R.
So be it! Go White Sox!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep Romer, we need help like 2006.. don’t know if it’s a good thing..but the Tigers game is an hour before the twins..
I was wondering what was wrong, romer. We need a beer soon, but have to wait till the White Sox game starts.
Baseball’s unwritten rules, written by 13 year olds (and I apologize to all 13 year olds for the insult). Get over it. He hit someone intentionally, you can hurt someone that way. The rules are pretty simple, hit someone intentionally, get suspended. What is hard to understand about that?
bonderman hardly pitches for them since he has been injured so much, he will probably serve it and get it over and done with so it won’t be holding over him
Hard to believe it’s the biggest game of the season and our starting pitcher has 0 wins. A pitcher Gardy said last week wasn’t ready for the “big stage.” So disappointing that Liriano has reached a point in his career that he can’t be counted on to start a game. At least the Royals starter has 0 wins as well. Should be an interesting night and hopefully one hell of a weekend. Hope Mijares can bounce back. Latin players tend to sulk and pout when things go wrong. Sure wish Delmon would have reacted better. But he did throw a bat at an umpire once before. WIN TWINS!
manship is fine for an inning or two at the beginning of a game, Frankie is fine for the same, just not at the start, it is a bullpen game all the way, just started with Jeff…. you know he will have the quickest hook of his life out there and might go out and throw a one hitter
Agree all the way, LMS.
I don’t want to start a whole thing, but bufftwins, I’m not sure sulking and pouting is specifically a “Latin” thing. It’s more of a general “human” thing.
Manship pitched pretty well out of the bullpen on Sunday. Hopefully he learned from that outing and can apply it to a start.
Right on LMS… sometimes the worser are gooder and sometimes the gooder are worser. That is bezzbaw.
Okay, Sox, let’s go.
Amazing. DiNardo’s stats make Manship’s look good by comparison!
ChiSox about to get started on ESPN. Time for psychic rooting for them.
Of course they need to defeat Detoilette twice this weekend or it’s all over. A must win for the Peavey team tonight.
POSEDNIK!!!
I sincerely hope that the Twins win the division over Detroit.
But even if that doesn’t happen, we can at least console ourselves with the fact that our hometown isn’t a mostly-abandoned, crime-infested industrial wasteland. Right?
Lead off HR by Posednik…Sox 1, Det 0
1-0 Sox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have to watch Hawk and Stony on CSN … ESPN blacked out. Oh, well. is this “pick to click” thing league-wide?
Hey, the Hawk’s the best……
He’s impressed with how the Tiggies seem to want to get this taken care of.
And you like hemmorhoids, romer.
Scot Podsednik just launched a 1-1 pitch to right field… WS 1 Det 0…
Already reported, Joe R.
Peavy needs to get it together.
Tim Tschida from good old St. Paul is calling balls and strikes…at the Det/Chicago game…
There you go, Peavy. Good job getting out of it.
Tschida is a good B/S ump.
Dr. Don, I believe I have something in common with Tim Tschida. BS is my specialty, too.
hee hee hee, Icon, you and me both.
In fact, if BS were money I would be a multi-millionaire.
Big thank you in advance to Score updates today.
still 1-0 after 2.
Peavy’s lookin good boys and girls…
Camden, end of 2nd, WS 1, DET 0
good inning for Peavy.
Unfortunately Jackson has settled in.
sox need to bunt more to Inge..his knee almost buckled as he threw late to 1st….
Good observation, Joe.
Jennings State Bank, Spring Grove, Minnesota
anyone know where this is? it just failed.
Peavey is a real good fit for the Sox. He looks like a White Sox player, ya know?
Yes. Awhile back it was on the “watch” list by FDIC.
Sutcliffe says Detoilette’s dugout had pregame tension in it.
Spring Grove is way down in the southeast corner of the state..
I’m banking the the White Sox.
just checked my local cable listing..no game on FSN Midwest…out of KC.. looks like I have to go to a watering hole on Sunday aft…. wonderful MLB has Omaha blacked out for some reason.. we’re 3 1/2 fr…. hours away from KC….grrr
Bend it like Beckham!
Gordon Bechkam.. nice rap….
Let’s go AJ! clap clap clap clap!
polanco is a free agent after this season. BS should get him signed
AJ….yes…..!!! bunts Becham to 3rd!!! with one out.. yes…!
You forgot a clap, wheels.
I’m not good with rhythm.
Hahaha, I’ll help ya out.
Let’s go Jer-maine. Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap.
Yeah, i’m in Oklahoma city area and I get FS texas rangers, no royals.
Why aren’t you bloggers at the DOME???
drink, drink, drink-drink-drink. That I can handle.
2-0 sox.
if you get me a plane ticket and one to the dome I would gladly be there Stinky
5-6 hours away for me.
Doc, you gotta keep pace with both the Twins and Sox tonight!
About 5 for me, too.
I’m not there cause I’m working. I was suprised I was able to sell my Home Run Porch pair for $76 bucks on ebay, didn’t think this game would be in as high-demand as it is. I’ll be there Sunday though, and Tuesday if necessary.
Guillen just made the biggest idiot play I’ve ever seen in a major league outfield. It was like a got caught in a mud on has butt and waited for the ball to come down.
Wow.
The baseball gods GOT to give this season to the Twins.
i veto on polanco being a twin- i love his bat but he plays awful detroit defense and wouldnt fit well here in my opinion…..but i admit i wouldnt mind him batting #2 in our lineup….
I’ll try Heat….over on trish’s.
This is probably the only time that I will ever be grateful the White Sox acquired Peavy.
C’mon Manship.
strikes strikes strikes …now i sound like bert
Butler has killed us.
Manship is scary.
Quentin goes deep!!
DP … way to go, guys.
howa bout dat
Camden: middle of 1st, KC 0, Twins coming up.
Top of 5th, CWS 3, DET 0
3-0 Sox.
Let’s get the rookie a lead so he can settle down.
anyone else think that detroit team is real tight….i think they are just in a total funk and scared to death of choking their lead away
jbiowa Thank You, Was able to convince the showroom manager here to turn the TVs to the Twins game instead of HGTV, still only taking peaks though. Sill could use Sox updates if I miss their break-ins.
How many times is that now that OC gets a single after Span makes an out?
Like clockwork.
I’m loving OCab right now!
You’re welcome, Camden.
Good for Joe. I think Cabrera KNOWS what they are playing for.
mj1, I think you are right. Let’s hope they stay tight.
whats the weather like in minnie tonite…what if this game was outside- as it will be next yr….
Then they battle their tailes off..
tails*
Whoo Hoo!!!
big nite for delmon…lets go
the more we score the tighter the tigers will get by the minute–you can bet they have their eyes on tv monitors….yea
FIRST EVER!!!
YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
DELMON!!!!
did i call it? yea - take that det
That should quiet a few of DY’s critics!
That’ll teach Bonderman to hit Delmon yesterday.
leyland just sent the bat boy to the nearest 7-11 for more smokes….
CWS have runners at 1st and 3rd, 0 outs.
Just get Delmonster pissed at his own teammates and he will then hit grand salamis!!!!
poor manship looks like he wants to puke
Manship, take a deep breath and blow all the butterflies out!
I think I bet at the all star break that no other twins would hit double digits in HR, I was wrong! A big nombre 10 for Delmon!
Bases loaded in Detroit, 0 outs. Dye up.
one at a time…
Jackson walked in Beckham…. 4-0
Edwin walked Dye with the bases juiced! 4-0
Kotsay double 6-0.
7-0 ChiSox
No more Jackson in Detoillete tonight.
7-0.
Did I mention no outs for the ChiSox as well?
twins need to play smart and just get outs.
So far this has been beyond my wildest dreams.
8-0 in Detoilet.
For Camden….
5-0 top 3rd. Span doubles.
Oops, I mean top of the 2nd, Camden.
runners on 1st and 3rd now, no outs.
Span gettin denarded!!!
i dont trust any leads so lets keep pouring it on….and in det also…eight is not enough…
Thanks Romer, I do have the Twins game on here at work now. They usually just show HGTV, but its been changed for tonight to the Twins game. I’m good for the Twins updates at least, not that perhaps others don’t want them.
Peavy looks great. That’s good for us now…not so good for us next year.
Peavy is cruising.
i said a big nite…could he do it again? i think so
Good job, Cuddy.
good enough, another run
Well, if it’s good enough for you, LA……
If this score holds or we expand the lead I would have Mauer out after the fifth inning.
If Detroit wins tonight they win the division. If they lose and each game is still a blowout, I don’t see how Detroit can come back and win tomorrow. Anyone know the pitching matches in Detroit for Sat and Sun?
Good Job, Jeff Manship.
Camden, tonight Det has to win and Twins lose for Det to win it all tonight.
and great job jake peavy
Peavy does look a little scarey for next year but it sure is nice tonight.
8-0 top 8th in Detoilette.
Don,
Yeah I know we wouldn’t technically be eliminated, but it would the fat lady’s lighter would be lit. My point was getting at momentum and the “here-we-go-again” mentality. A Big comeback for them and won’t be hard to win at least one more.
OK, sorry if I misunderstood you, Camden.
wonder if gardy is looking for more than 5 good innings from manship….
Sat - Garcia vs. Figaro, Sun - Danks vs. Verlander
No apologies necessry, this is teh internets after all.
Thank you, Ozzie Guillen for holding off on Peavy’s start until tonight.
Whoo-hoo, 8 complete in Detoilette.
8-0
Farewell to the Metrodome weekend and FSN’s final Aflac Trivia Question involves Royals Saves? Stupid idiots!
Wednesday I thought the Twins season was over. I’m seeing 163 in the future right now. The Sox will win tomorrow, it will all come down to the Twins sweeping this thing.
Peavy…8 IP, 2 H, 0 R.
Timely. Very timely.
Can he go again on short rest Sunday? Please??
T98 was sure right. Gardy just divided his clubhouse by calling out Jose so publicly!
1 down & 1 to go with 2 to play.
Keep hope alive!
Now don’t blow this Linebrink!
Twins need to save some ammo for tomorrow
Not many smiles in the dugout after Kube’s HR.
These guys are taking serious momentum into tomorrow, 1 back.
Actually the funny thing about it all is maybe, just maybe, it brought the team untied behind Delmon who is having a huge night. The result T98 would have wanted.
2 outs bott 9th, still 8-0
just went final in detroit
Or maybe, this is baseball…what happened yesterday has little to do with what happens today, and Delmon just happened to run into a pitch with the bases loaded.
Either way…I’ll take it.
BALLGAME!
8-0 final
Delmon has matched his HR total from last year in almost 200 fewer ABs.
THANK YOU, CHICAGO!!!
Twins just announced that Les Straker will pitch Sunday on 7,665 days rest.
bufftwins is your clubhouse PoD leader, for his 8:34
When will Gardy substitute?
I have to say I have really liked what I have seen from Delmon at the plate the last month or so.
As a critic of Gardenhire, I have been very impressed by Gardenhire yesterday and today. I wanted to give credit where it’s due.
Gardenhire handled the beanball situation absolutely masterfully. The Tigers lose a bullpen pitcher and the Twins don’t. Great job, Gardy!
Secondly, Gardy played Brendan Harris today even after his bad game yesterday. Nice vote of confidence for Harris! He’s a good player who is better than he played yesterday. Today, Harris turns in an RBI double.
Well, my other criticisms are still out there, but there is a divisional race on.
Go Twins!
USAFChief: Haha. Thank you.
Wow that was only the 4th inning
All right. Assuming the lead holds up, let’s put Morales in for Mauer after Mauer catches this inning.
Give Mauer rest for tomorrow afternoon’s game.
thanks, Chief, I was gonna nominate buff’s 8:34. Good Call.
A baggie stop. Last one ever?
Agreed, Mauer Power.
I was hoping Kubel would be taken out as well.
Great victory for the White Sox today.
Thank you, Chicago and the White Sox organization!
I don’t think I’m the only one who is starting to think the White Sox are going to be very good next year. Peavy will add a lot to the Sox.
“I have to say I have really liked what I have seen from Delmon at the plate the last month or so.”
Based on his current kinda dismal stats only, he woulda got to 15 HR’s and 90 RBIs if he had gotten his usual 600+ AB’s this year.
I bet it’s Manship’s last inning if he can get through it. Good outing so far.
Mauer Power - Beckham looks like the real deal as well…
Send a case of champaign to the White Sox clubhouse in Detroit!
Not yet, DLF…wait till Sunday.
I think they should allow Manship to pitch as long as possible tonight … at least through (7) innings. We need to save the bullpen for the next two (or three) games.
Please put Gabino in after Manship is done
Beckham looks like the real deal as well…
If the Twin could take just one player from the Sox, it’d be Beckham in my opinion.
Come on, Manship! Get this guy and qualify yourself for a major league victory.
AWFULLY fortunate that we piled the runs on for Manship.
He’s doing as expected tonight.
DrDon - I would suggest that we prohibit the Pale Hose from opening the case until after Sunday’s game in Detroit. It is an incentive … not a reward.
no time to let up …this is a strange game at times….no letting them back in at all….
I’d take Peavy or Buerhle from the White Sox. They have lots of other good players, too, including Beckham.
The hardest thing to do in baseball is pitch with a 10-run lead.
Maybe Chief. Or maybe not. Your’s is plausible but no more so than mine. Both have a long list evidence to support them in baseball and sports history.
Either way I’ll take it too
Let Mauer and Kubel bat, and then sub for them. New pitcher time.
Manship has done a good, clutch job tonight for the Twins.
82 pitches for Manship.
56 were strikes.
How old is Delmon anyway? Anybody know?
Alright, time to sit Joe so he is well rested tomorrow.
And about 30 that inning, WJ.
what a weekend this could be for the dome and then follow it up mon nite with the vikes and pack….nice time to be in the twin cities….and maybe a playoff on tue at the very least….
Delmon just turned 25, didn’t he?
Delmon JUST turned 24, WJ
Delmon is 24 I believe.
And Romer ^
No substitutions at the top of the 6th.
Come on, Gardy! Get Manship, Mauer, Kubel, and probably Cabrera out of there.
DY is 24.
You got a few fish to bite, Walter.
i would pull nobody out of this at least the 8th….cant be too careful now
Go-Go won’t be 24 until December.
Go-Go won’t be 24 until December.
But he plays like he’s much much younger.
C’mon Dudeship, take care of these guys.
In many ways, this has been a lost year for both Gomez and Young in terms of the opportunity to improve their games.
Shameless, WJ.
twins are trying to turn this into a game
twins bats are going to have to come alive yet in this game….natives getting restless…..
Into each life a little Crain must fall.
Glad to see Crain rounding back in to his old form 
I am having flashbacks to the infamous 12-1 game in Oakland…
They are cheering in Detroit.
no team knows how to squander a lead like the twins
Nathan for 2 tonight?
Chief,
Who said “Mahay while the sun shines.”?
That is my nomination for POY.
When Bill Smith goes shopping over the winter I hope he finds some replacements for Keppel and Crain in the pen.
No deja vu tonight…….
Lets no freak out about Crain. He has no R in SEP
Which of the two relievers Mahay and Rauch is signed for next year? I was thinking Rauch is signed and Mahay is a free agent, is that correct?
dumb gardy leaving his starting lineup in …
Okay experts…….
Mahay could be valuable the next couple days. Who should pitch the 7th with a 5-run lead?
Good thing we didn’t pull Mauer and Kubel. We may need their bats yet tonight.
Let’s get those runs back and then throw Keppel out there.
I think Gardy will go with Keppel in the 7th, Guerrier in the 8th and we’ll see in the 9th, depending on the score.
Open question … what are your thoughts regarding the use of Mijares tonight in light of yesterday’s melt-down? Give him a night off to regain his senses or send him right back out there to demonstrate your ongoing confidence in him?
Detroit only had three hits tonight.
Good question. I say use him if you need a lefty. Definately.
DLF- Mijares is the best we’ve got in the pen. I’d rather save him for the “Greinke game” if we can keep it close, but if the Royals make it 10-7 or 10-8 tonight, you’ve got to put him in.
Who’s facing Greinke?
And again, WJ — even before the game tonight, ESPN’s Sutcliffe said it seemed tense in their dugout.
Walter- Peavy, Danks, Floyd and company are going to be a fearsome starting rotation next year. The rookie Hudson looked good when called up also.
my stomach hurts…. and here comes keppel
whose dugout? Detroit’s?
we still need to get nathan thru the 9th…lately the heart rate picks up when he comes in….
I think too much is being made over the Young-Mijares flak. Remember how the A’s rode fistfights and discontent to 3 straight world championships?
ya never know what your going to get from keppel - so far so good…let him go into the 8th if this keeps up…
WJ-Blackburn goes tomorrow with Duensing in the pen.
Here’s something to think about.
KC - 11 hits
MIN - 10 hits
And Buerhle. Yeah, they’ll be tough without having to throw a Contreras or Colon in there every fifth game.
Tehan scares me. If Keppel doesn’t keep it down it will be 10-7
BOB,
Rauch is signed. Mahay is around 40 years old
Good pitch Keppel!
Bob - I vividly remember Reggie Jackson and Manager Billy Marten being restrained from fighting each other in the Yankee dugout during a play-off game. I agree … it sounds as though everyone has kissed and made-up.
Walter: I don’t want to give anything away, I’ll have a PoY special next week.
But I agree the “Mahay while the sun shines” post deserves considerattion.
I have a ton of research left to do, but I think everyone will enjoy the “Chief-ee’s.”
At least I hope so.
You will be featured prominantly. That could be good or bad, by the way.
Let’s get a couple back here.
No, let’s not get a coupel back. Let the hitters rest up and end this game ASAP
Damn it Tolbert
Okay, now I know we’re going to pull this thing out. I’m sitting here playing bookworm while watching this game. The last word I formed:
PENNANT
Punto … let’s try that squeeze play again!
Chief,
Is Howard going to let you be guest blogger for a day to unveil your “Chiefees”.
And thanks for using “Chiefees” instead of the other popular choice.
this is still feeling really scary. especially after that luck.
How many balls can Anderson miss against us this year!! Wow, he makes Delmon look like Wille Mays in the outfield.
I’m currently in “awaiting moderation” purgatory for some reason.
Bad luck on that one by Span, a few more runs would have been nice.
Right where you deserve to be, after that little ‘how old is Delmon’ stunt, WJ.
He’s 24 baby!!
Chief, I have just nominated your 9:48 for PoD. Loved it.
if keppel lets one more guy on……. he has to get yanked. anybody but keppel.
Dick B. just stated that in his entire life he had never seen an outfield play shallower than KC did against Punto. Gee, Dick, you think maybe it’s because he can’t hit the ball further than 265 feet?
Stuff it, Doc.
“whose dugout? Detroit’s?”
Yeah, WJ.
yes……. keppel gone
Why, WJ. I thought that was funny.
Come on Mijares, make your critics eat their words!!!
Thanks romer. I have been ESPN-less for over a year now.
WHY can’t we just put these guys away?
I don’t know about Detroit’s dugout being ‘tight,’ but it’s getting a bit uncomfortable on my couch right now.
I was looking forward to a relaxing evening after inning 1. Wasn’t even going to come on here. And now I am very much not happy.
WTF
i just threw up
Twins are providing WAY too much drama.
Mijares is 2 pitches away from brining the tying run to the plate.
Oh my goodness
This Ump is all over the place.
AWESOME outside corner pitch.
Mijares is 1 pitch from getting out of the inning.
Manship leaves the game with an 8-run lead and we’re going to end up using at least FIVE relievers tonight??
Now is the time to bring in Nathan for that 1+ inning save.
Get that pitch outside Jose!
Dick needs to shut up
if you EVER get a scoreless inning out of keppel you Have to get him out of there and thanks the forces that you got what you got. to ask more is just…….. well.. just look what happened… again.
I don’t feel so good.
WTF is up with us not being able to hold onto 10 run leads.
Come on guys.
GameDay has been stuck on a 2-1 count to Maier for the last two minutes.
jim kaat would have turned that into a force out at home.
FLASHBACK ALERT!!!!!!!!!.
Guerrier???? Seriously? Where’s Nathan?
WTH happened? I went to lunch it was 10-2….
this is like blowing the ten run lead at Oakland all over again. Next year we will be talking about how Detroit got swept in the three games against the Sox, and the Twins would have won the division had they not blown that ten run lead against KC.
i dont believe what i am watching….im starting to get ill….this is nuts….
If they tie this game……
Get Butler!
Okay, Laudner and Gaetti are in the booth for good luck.
And I just read the update above, Duensing is available tonight.
Delmon should have thrown Mijares under an actual bus last night.
i can hear the tiger fans laughing here in virginia all the way from detroit.
I like Gardy. I’m in the camp that believes he’s one of the better managers in the MLB but not putting Nathan in here is seriously a HUGE mistake. The season is on the line and you don’t have your best pitcher on the mound? That’s ridiculous.
My head hurts…
The Warrior will get us out of this.
even a 3 run lead in the 9th with nathan is scary ……
The only thing this game is missing is Ben popping in with his hatred. I see Kevin made it.
Things have got very interesting and..where are my Tums.
This is hillarious, we might blow two ten run leads against two of the worst teams in the majors. This loss if it comes just may get Gardy fired after all!
Guerrier didn’t throw a single pitch in the strike zone. Butler did us a favor by being too overactive.
righty on lefty
Big out there. C’mon Matt. One more.
That a boy Matty!
Would any of you like to repeat what a mistake is was to put in Guerrier? Nathan who?
Everybody can exhale!!!
WHEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW
Hallelujah.
Thank you Matt Guerrier
score three now and maybe we can breathe again in the top of 9th
No Gardy wants too save NATHAN. He is a decent to good manager, a great one? My friends he will never, ever be that.
I still say the Royals will tie it up in the ninth
okay…. now since the twins are batting I think I can leave the game again without an implosion again right?
*Wipes sweat off forehead & exhales*
Ok, ok, who’s heart fluttered when that ball left the bat off Pena?
tell me how bad do we miss neshek….he used to have 9 pitch innings when he was really on…..3 and gone…..
Despite the outcome it was still a mistake not to put your best relief pitcher in that situation.
I don’t see any apologies or “Nevermind, I’m an idiot” messages here for Gardy’s “huge mistake” and his “ridiculous” move there. Anyone? Anyone?
The old Nathan would be automatic. I agree with mj1, the current Nathan has lost it and it could be a roller coaster. He will be 37 years old next year and has $24 million owed the next two years on his contract, it might be time to look around if he could bring a starting infielder and pitcher in a swap.
Boby Keppel should not even reside in the state of Minnesota next year, and do you think Mijares is a bit shaken from yesterdayy, man he’s pitching like someone plucked all his feathers. We better have some hits left for Grenke tomorrow!
Even Nathan can’t blow a 3-run lead, can he?
It clearly was not a mistake. A strikeout and routine fly ball. Yep, I hope Gardy makes more mistakes like that all weekend.
Let’s get some runs here!!
I wish I knew who our best relief pitcher IS right now.
Time for Joe to go yard and make us comfortable again.
well at least butler should be out of the way in the 9th
Mac, so you’re saying that if they had scored on Guerrier - only then would that be considered a mistake? That’s not managing. That’s hindsight.
I don’t see any apologies or “Nevermind, I’m an idiot” messages here for Gardy’s “huge mistake” and his “ridiculous” move there. Anyone? Anyone?
‘Success’ does not equal ‘good decision’ macleod.
If I decide to drive home drunk, and make it safely, does that mean it was a good decision?
I don’t see any apologies or “Nevermind, I’m an idiot” messages here for Gardy’s “huge mistake” and his “ridiculous” move there. Anyone? Anyone?
‘Success’ does not equal ‘good decision’ macleod.
If I decide to drive home drunk, and make it safely, does that mean it was a good decision?
Just for the heck of it, maybe Gardy starts Casilla at 2b tomorrow since Punto couldn’t hit Greinke with a shovel.
come on joe…… how about getting 30 before the season is over….
I am with you all the way Bob, Nathan is hot, he has gotten his last fat contract. Personally from what I have seen from the past couple of years he is no longer dominating and fooling very few people. If the front office looks at this logically, give him up for some talent if we can get it, I am sure there is a National team that would take him off our hands for sure. Hopefully Neshack will be ready of Guerra will be soon coming of age.
Crain does a bad job.
Mahay does a good job.
Keppel does a good job, then a bad job.
Mijares does a bad job, but it looks like a good job in the stats.
Guerrier does a good job.
So mixed results. Gotta think these guys are already into tomorrow.
93 mph fastball, 72 mph change up - nasty
Macleod you are speaking in hindsight for sure, a three run jack and you would have said what? The fact is Nathan does not have the goods to hardly make through one inning let alone 4 outs or more. Two more years at 37 years old? We got fleeced boys and girls.
That’s not managing. That’s hindsight.
If I decide to drive home drunk, and make it safely, does that mean it was a good decision?
Right on.
just not that 10 extra feet joe had at the beginning of the year….
Seriously guys? Comparing driving drunk to Matt Guerrier facing two batters; striking out one and getting a fly ball? That’s what you want to go with? Yes, Gardy makes nothing but mistakes because a couple of you thought he should have brought in Nathan. Only, it worked out perfectly. If Gardy decides to start Punto over whoever you like, and Punto goes 3-3 with a walk and an RBI, it’s the right move.
nathan is still one of the best- but he has this knack of making things scary - his #s are awesome, its just that we were so used to him being 3up 3down….not anymore - he seems to always give up couple hits or that damn long one, but still usually closes it out…getting riskier every day….i would like to see a solid guy behind him next season to take over at anytime….maybe that kid in AAA who i cant think of his name right now..
Oh Lord, buckle up kids, here comes Joe. He is so due for a 1-2-3 9th like the old days, maybe we’ll get it. These aren’t the Yankees so we should be ok.
you guys act like Nathan is lights out. There have been several games where the Twins pitchers gave up no or 1 run in eight innings, only to have Nathan come in and give up a couple or at least make us sweat it out.
Okay, enough dissension. Time to focus all of our collective energy on 3 MORE OUTS.
Plain and simple. Gardy made a decision to NOT bring in Nathan. It worked. The decision worked. How is that hindsight?
USAFChief says:
‘Success’ does not equal ‘good decision’
If I decide to drive home drunk, and make it safely, does that mean it was a good decision?
great point cheif…..
I prefer to go with Gardy’s “good decision” equaled “success”.
OC with 2 errors tonight. 6 errors in 2 games. What gives?
error two tonight for OC. i just threw up again.
Nathan has been a bit shaky lately, much to our dismay. But he is still an elite releiver and we are lucky to have him. Close ‘em down here Joe.
mj1- Rob Delany is the guy you are thinking about. Fat Bill was an idiot not to bring the kid up in August or at least in September. He was sensational this year at AA and AAA and at least deserved a look see in September.
You cannot argue against the fact the Twins needed their best relief pitcher in the 8th inning. If Guerrier is currently the best relief pitcher on the staff then he should be closing out this game and the rest of the games this season. Nathan has been having a tough stretch lately but he’s still the best relief pitcher on the Twins. He should be used in the highest leverage situations.
at least they are keeping the tigers up late….losing their rest…
but in baseball…. unlike drunk driving… the only good decision IS one that works.
Casapo and Olivo are not exactly Jeter and ARod, but I will take it.
Two outs. Here’s where Nathan usually starts to make things interesting.
think joe will throw behind his back now?
Nathan has been pitching 3 outs the entire season, but because a couple of you suddenly decided he should get 4 outs, that equals “bad decision” by the Manager? Why don’t you save your brilliance for the Twins front office?
It is hindsight, look up the definition please. Besides I hope Joe shuts it down, but let’s face it, be it this year or next year, he will get tatooed in the playoffs by good hitting teams, he just does not have the same arm, period. That kids name is Guerra, the other piece in the Santana deal that is often overlloked, the Mets did not want to part with him, nasty, nasty stuff, and a power arm.
yep, bob thats his name, i too wanted to see him up, as nathan seemed to be struggling, but hopefully next year….
But if you make that same decision every time, it will fail more than it works out.
1 strike!
Gardy drives me nuts with his pitcher management, absolutely nuts. But at the end of the day, he has taken this team that lost Slowey, Liriano, Neshek, Morneau, and they are on the brink of winning a divsion, albeit poor division. If Gardy did not have such a cheap ownership and GM behind him, he might really do something.
Nathan loves full counts…my god.
why should we be sweating a game where we had a ten run lead
Looks like Nathan was fresh for having not pitched in the 8th.
Great job Joe! Great job Twins!
Good! Maybe this helps restore some of Joe’s shattered confidence. We need him this weekend.
Nice basket catch Tolbert, what the hell
and they laugh…..i havent started breathing yet
Twins can really put pressure on Tigers tomorrow. I like that they are playing the earlier game.
1 down
2 to go
F%$K grienke!
What’s up with Tolbert trying to catch everything with a basket catch????? He dropped a pop up early and almost dropped another!!!
Nice basket catch by Tolbert. NOT! You could tell by Gardy’s expression he was not too pleased either. Oh Ya…We Won and only 1 game out. GO TWINS!!!!
Do you have the office for the front office, I would enjoy a sit down with them. First things, drop Perkins, Keppel, Redmond, and Crede, and trade Nahan as he does not warrant 24 million dollars over the next 2 years, we gave him a foolish deal. Next question.
Gardy’s glare at Tolbert when he almost mishandled that pop up was priceless.
We need to scratch a few early ones on the Zack Attack tomorrow
Awesome win! Feeling good going into the game against Grienke.
I meant number to the front office, tomorrow is big, Grenke will be tough. Last game he pitches before CY Young voting, he will be bringing it no doubt.
wth, I forgot all about Young’s GS…..
Gotta pay more attention to the game and less to the blog I suppose.
Win is a win boys, got to love the fact that we are still in this!
Some of you really need to look yourselves in the mirror and ask yourself; “Do I want the Twins to win, or do I want Gardy to fail?”
It’s embarrassing that some of you were complaining about a pitching move that worked because “it might have not worked”.
The Twins won. The last two pitching moves secured the victory. And…the Twins won and are one game back. I’m happy, at least until tomorrow when I return to my favorite blog to read Twins “fans” rooting for Gardy to fail.
Hey Macleod, Rather than ripping Twins’ bloggers in the Midwest, how about working as a self-proclaimed “SPECIAL AGENT” based in Sacramento for the U.S. Government and not pissing away your work days on these baseball blogs. Just a reminder from a taxpayer!!
Thankfully Gardy’s managing rather then the KNOW IT ALL bloggers here.
Regards,
weird. it was like they took the night off after the 5th inning. already into tomorrow. almost a tragic mistake. go white sox!!!!!!
Mac, you need to tone it down. You’re not making yourself look good here. You’re a Twins fan so I’m with you on that but you’re posts making personal attacks doesn’t add any value here.
We live to see another day! Sure wish we didn’t have to use Guerrier and Nathan but they did the job. I hope KC doesn’t swing the bats tomorrow like they did in the second half of the game tonight. Everything they swung at managed to fall in there for a while. Grienke has never won at the Dome. Hope that streak continues. Blackburn on three days rest could be good for his sinker. It could also be a plus that he had 7 days off before his last start in Detroit.
hey Dan, thanks for my salary.
I’m just diverting your attention away from Gardy. He takes enough heat in the pennant race. It’s working.
If it weren’t for Gardenhire, all those pitchers who stunk up the joint tonight would have excelled instead.
Do the Tigers have a guy pitching tomorrow that hasn’t started a game since June?
gardy was an idiot for not pulling his starters early and gardy was an idiot for not bringing in nathan in the eighth.
but it looks to me like gardy’s twins have one less win than the ‘87 twins — with two to play. in the hunt yet again.
the guy must be doing something right.
Gardy almost ran out the entire bullpen looking for one guy who could get a couple outs.
bremer acts like zack is unbeatable- he needs to get off that stuff
They did mention that Greineke is 0-3 in the Metrodome.
Gardy was prescient in smelling out a KC comeback.
So he goes with Manship as far as possible and brings Crain in first.
He tried…..
I sure hope Bill Smith can go out and get some decent players that Gardenhire can finally win with. It’s not fair to Gardenhire that he’s had to make do for so long with crappy players. The whole organization needs to think more about what they can do for Ron Gardenhire. Gardenhire deserves a World Championship. If the FO doesn’t improve the team we could very well end up losing Gardenhire to another team. Nobody else in baseball could match was Ron Gardenhire has done for this team. Without Gardenhire we’d be a 60 win team, tops. Let’s all pull together and support Gardenhire, he deserves it.
Macleod,
Tigers are starting Figaro bc they don’t want to pitch Porcello on short rest. Good deal for us and the Twins!
Gardy for MOY.
Gardy. No Gardy. Mauer. No Mauer. I root for the Minnesota team. I’d take a Punto game winning hit as much as I’d take a Mauer game winning hit.
Anyone remember if the Twins have ever been as close as one game back this year?
So, who’s available to replace Gardy as Manager? I’m not up to speed on all the unemployed great MLB Managers out there.
Detoilette is still in control of its destiny — if you can call starting Figaro being in control of your destiny.
Yes WJ. Tuesday afternoon in-between the double header.
Gardenhire wasn’t picked from a list of great MLB managers to take over from
Tom Kelly. Kelly had never managed before he took over from Ray Miller. Ron Washington, my vote of MOY, had no managerial experience before taking over in Texas. How could any of these guys be decent MLB managers when nobody had ever heard of them before?
Hey Macleod, How about earning your salary, Special Agent Man!! Funny, but my brother, a federal agent in the Bay area and also from MN, made a few calls to the FBI, Homeland Security, ATF, Border Patrol, Customs, etal., and couldn’t find an agent from Duluth via Rosemount, MN. mmmmmhmmmm!!
Ease up Macleod, I do not want Gardy to fail, I merely think he is okay for the job. Could we have better, yes we could.
Walter Johnson-
I hope you weren’t being cynical in that post because it is actually quite accurate. Not a lot of managers could keep this team in contention given the lack of talent on the roster. I think Gardy has done a great job with the players he was given.
Easy Dan. It’s just a blog about peoples opinions. I can pretty much be whatever I want here. I actually don’t even remember you or talking to you…ever. But I appreciate your interest in my life. LOL.
BTW, there are dozens of federal agencies that employ Office of Inspector General Federal Agents for countless numbers of Federal Departments. Not that I work for those either. Maybe your brother should stop making phone calls and do the work the taxpayers pay him to do.
I do remember being very little, 1967, the Twins went into Boston the last weekend of the season, just needing to win one game. They lost the last two, and Red Sox won the penant,
Is it possible that some people question moves by the manager BECAUSE they want the team they support to end up winning?
The tying run is at the plate in the 8th inning of a game that has to be won. HAS TO be won.
I want my best reliever getting those two outs.
It wasn’t a good decision. That doesn’t mean anybody is more happy than me that it worked out…but I still hope Gardy makes a better decision next time he’s in a similar spot.
Freddy Garcia had 6 great starts until the last one against Detoilette.
He’ll make the adjustment.
I wasn’t proclaiming Gardy is a genius or manager of the year. I was serious when I said who’s available. A lot of people want him replaced. I was wondering if that was just a statement in frustration or if there literally is people out there that could.
B-Good,
It just seems that a few people are more concerned with Gardenhire than the team.
Chief…If it worked out, it was a good decision.
I’ve just never heard of anybody using “hindsight” in a situation that worked out well.
“In hindsight, instead of Gardy pitching Guerrier and having him get those two batters out, I wish he had pitched Nathan and gotten those two batters out.”
I was just giving people crap that they should “apologize” to Gardy since the decision worked.
So what are you, Special Agent Man? That is, besides a fictional creation of another blogger.
Gardy just noted OC has a hamstring issue.
Harris at 3rd, Punto at SS?
Nah.
“Orlando Cabrera is 1-for-11 against DiNardo.”
He actually went 3 for 5 tonight (except the official scorer screwed him). He’s hot, keep him in.
The time to replace Gardenhire was back in May or June when the Twins got off to a slow start for the fourth or fifth consecutive season. Mainly as a means of shaking up a team that badly needed a shakin’.
What do you mean Dan? What am I? I’m a Minnesota Twins fan. I like the Vikings too.
Not really sure why you would care. Did we have some friendly bantor in the past that I don’t remember? Perhaps it was more important to you.
It kind of sounds like you are stalking me. Would you like my address?
I think if Blackburn is on his game tomorrow, he can go a good seven innings or more. The Blackburn of late is back in form.
And someone actually did tell me that Gardenhire was the difference in 20-25 wins a year.
Macleod, I don’t need anything that doesn’t exist, phoney!
20-25 huh? Well, you cannot dump a guy that is that important.
Or am I telling the truth Dan? And, does it matter? What do you do for a living?
I just watched the the 1st part of Baseball Tonight..Buck Showalter is idiot.. if he’s so smart why is not managing….? He’s more worried about when they’re going to pitch Verlander..it think the little tigers better worry about a pitcher that hasn’t pitched since June 24th.. the white sox are licking their chops… watch the twins come out and jump on Grienke early…. Twins win tomorrow and the Tiger don’t play until 6pm ..imagine the tense clubhouse in that stadium tomorrow night….
It only matters since you said it matters by proclaiming yourself as a U.S. Federal Agent. By the way, I’m just a little guy who owns a business that employs people and pays taxes (as I declared before with my initial interrogatory on this blog two years ago) who was able to semi-retire at age 45 and learn to enjoy the opinions of “real” people and not Trolls over the last sixteen plus years. That said, Special Agent for whom?
Sounds like you’re very successful Dan. Good for you. BTW; we’re all just little guys trying to pay taxes and support our families, and maybe, enjoy a little baseball along the way.
You have been completely too personal in attempting to delve into my life, for what reasons, I could not fathom. Feel free to focus on your own life, as will I. Whether I’m a Federal Agent or a Garbage Man, I’m just doing my thing like you are.
I honestly don’t recollect having a conversation with you two years ago.
Weird.
The beautiful thing about being a garbage man is, no such thing as a recession. You’re always going to be busy.
Have I even been on this blog for two years? Am I being followed?
To be exact, it has been two years, three months and five days since you first posted under the name “Macleod”. And, no, nobody is following you.
I’m a garbage man from Cedar Rapids, and dang proud I can support my family doing it. Just wish I could afford to come and see the Twins more often.
Some of the best garbage in the upper Midwest comes out of Cedar Rapids, I’ve heard.
I did something very similar for awhile.
I know federal agents! I respect federal agents for the work they do every day on our behalf! And, you sir, are a phoney! People who portray themselves as such, while wasting work days on these blogs, only besmirch the hard work of many of our finest who are diligently performing their duties.
LOL WJ. I knew it! It’s not paranoia if they’re really after you.
Actually, the name “Macleod” was already on my computer when I bought it. I wonder what it means?
Looks like somebody has been logging my hours. Of course, I heard a rumor that people with those jobs are on duty 24/7, hence, an hour during the day, or night, would still mean they are working 23 hours that day.
Trust me Dan, I’ve learned through life that the more you think you know the less you really do know.
Daniel,
Are you one of those small business owners that cheats on his taxes and pays illegal immigrants under the table to get around the minimum wage laws?
Dan respects federal agents, but not garbage men I guess. I respect anybody that works for a living. Cops, Firemen, McDonalds workers, garbage men, secretaries. They’re all just trying to support their family.
You’re such a phoney, Macleod!
I wish Dan would come back. That guy was a hoot!
Hey WJ, what do you suppose I said to Daniel two years ago that would have him attacking me personally tonight? I mean, we all yell and “insult” each other about baseball, but he seems to have taking a disliking to my way of life.
I honestly don’t really know anybody on here, and nobody really knows me. Nothing wrong with that. But, hey, he’s doing investigations on me. Weird.
Neurosis befits some. That said, good win for the Twins and good luck tomorrow. As a relocated former Twins season ticket holder for many years, it would truly be enjoyable to be with “real” (meaning existing) Twins fans for the Saturday’s and Sunday’s conclusion! The Tigers appear to be toast and can be caught and passed. Go Twins!
Some nut job. Don’t worry about it. But watch your back.
See you later Macleod, when I will finally convince you that Gardenhire must go!
He’s busy calling his brother to ask if he knows of a “Macleod” that is a federal agent. Um, that really isn’t my name. Am I being phoney for using a moniker of a fake name?
I wonder if the FBI in the Bay Area would appreciate that his brother is trying to track a fake name on a baseball blog out of Minnesota? Don’t federal agents have certain rules they have to follow, like searching for people should pertain to a real investigation? That boys going to get his brother in trouble.
Gardy can go if the Twins win a pennant. I’ll still watch without him.
I’m real Dan. And I’m a real Twins fan. You know, your offense of me is a little strong considering we’re just monikers on a baseball blog. I assure you, I have never impersonated a Federal Agent. Unless I was under cover.
How about these stats from a third baseman, would you take these on this team? 2009 Season
AVG .263 HR44 RBI101 RUNS 96
Do you know who this is? Average not great, but otherwise pretty good numbers.
Holy crap, you guys would make a great male soap opera, but really Danny I am federal agent, look outside your window, it is me with the camera (digital) ssssssshhhhhhh.
Dan was all over me. I don’t even know who he is.
But, back to baseball. Those numbers are just sick. And, nothing wrong with that average.
BTW; new post up by LaVelle.
Careful Mac, Impersonating a federal officer is a felony, phoney!
