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	<title>Comments on: Tuesday, Nov. 11, 1975: Edmund Fitzgerald reported missing</title>
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		<title>By: Yesterday&#8217;s News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Best of Yesterday&#8217;s News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yesterday&#8217;s News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Best of Yesterday&#8217;s News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nov. 11, 1975: Edmund Fitzgerald reported missing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Coupla Things</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/oldnews/archives/44#comment-5821</link>
		<dc:creator>Coupla Things</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple comments..

The crew would not have benefitted from life jackets.  Lake Superior water temps average in the 40s, and hypothermia would kill almost as quickly as drowning.

The crew never had a chance to get to the life boats.  The ship went down in seconds - there was virtually no realization it was sinking until it was too late.  
Also, it would have been almost impossible to launch lifeboats in the heavy seas that night.  Even getting getting out on deck near the boats, would have been extremely dangerous.

What is really interesting is how the official government ruling on the cause of the sinking is not widely accepted by the maritime community.  

There are a thousand books on the sinking, if you want to learn more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple comments..</p>
<p>The crew would not have benefitted from life jackets.  Lake Superior water temps average in the 40s, and hypothermia would kill almost as quickly as drowning.</p>
<p>The crew never had a chance to get to the life boats.  The ship went down in seconds - there was virtually no realization it was sinking until it was too late.<br />
Also, it would have been almost impossible to launch lifeboats in the heavy seas that night.  Even getting getting out on deck near the boats, would have been extremely dangerous.</p>
<p>What is really interesting is how the official government ruling on the cause of the sinking is not widely accepted by the maritime community.  </p>
<p>There are a thousand books on the sinking, if you want to learn more.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott C</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/oldnews/archives/44#comment-5637</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in 6th grade when the Fitz went down. It was my day for a current events article in school that Tuesday. The biggest news, and the one I choose, was the loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I gave what amounted to a briefing of loss of 29 lives. 

I was 11. 

I get emotional still when I hear that song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in 6th grade when the Fitz went down. It was my day for a current events article in school that Tuesday. The biggest news, and the one I choose, was the loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I gave what amounted to a briefing of loss of 29 lives. </p>
<p>I was 11. </p>
<p>I get emotional still when I hear that song.</p>
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		<title>By: John MacLean</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/oldnews/archives/44#comment-1389</link>
		<dc:creator>John MacLean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 23:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I arrived in the Twin Cities on November 10th, 1975, pulling the smallest U-haul trailer you can rent behind my 1967 Chevrolet, Impala; but, containing all of my worldly possessions. The major items in that trailer were a twin bed, bicycle, clothes, books and papers. And, I'm sure the car was also fully packed. I had visited Minneapolis several times before, but this was the biggest move of my life, leaving my birth family behind in Cleveland, Ohio. I was 23-years-old.

Back in Cleveland I had started packing the trailer in dry/ temperate conditions, and by the time I drove away from my inner-city apartment it was a full-blown blizzard. Due to the conditions, I decided to stay one last night in the suburbs, and after a short 10-mile drive, backed the trailer into my parent's driveway overnight to weather the worst of it, before starting out again in the morning. I still remember my mother saying that she was glad that I had the sense not to continue on in that storm.

I can't remember whether I made the trip in one or two days, but I pulled into a parking lot in the darkness of evening on Lexington Ave in Shoreview, MN on November 10th, where I was to share an apartment with someone I had met from a local, church youth group on a previous trip. The cold and blustery wind whipped around the parking lot, and I remember that I thought it was strange to be North of downtown, as I'd be out in the middle of Lake Erie if I were still back in Cleveland!

Over 32 years later I still reside in the Twin Cities. I‘ve contemplated over the years, wouldn’t it have been great if my grandfather, Murdock, who emigrated from Scotland to Cleveland, via Canada in the 19-teens, were still alive to talk about the ships of the Great Lakes; and, share in the excitement of my move from Ohio to the iron ore producing state. You see, he had worked on the ore boats plying those waters in the 1930’s, sailing from the Cleveland steel mills to Duluth to pick up the precious ore. However, he passed away 5 years before my move to Minnesota; and, that fateful day for those seamen of the Edmund Fitzgerald.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I arrived in the Twin Cities on November 10th, 1975, pulling the smallest U-haul trailer you can rent behind my 1967 Chevrolet, Impala; but, containing all of my worldly possessions. The major items in that trailer were a twin bed, bicycle, clothes, books and papers. And, I&#8217;m sure the car was also fully packed. I had visited Minneapolis several times before, but this was the biggest move of my life, leaving my birth family behind in Cleveland, Ohio. I was 23-years-old.</p>
<p>Back in Cleveland I had started packing the trailer in dry/ temperate conditions, and by the time I drove away from my inner-city apartment it was a full-blown blizzard. Due to the conditions, I decided to stay one last night in the suburbs, and after a short 10-mile drive, backed the trailer into my parent&#8217;s driveway overnight to weather the worst of it, before starting out again in the morning. I still remember my mother saying that she was glad that I had the sense not to continue on in that storm.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t remember whether I made the trip in one or two days, but I pulled into a parking lot in the darkness of evening on Lexington Ave in Shoreview, MN on November 10th, where I was to share an apartment with someone I had met from a local, church youth group on a previous trip. The cold and blustery wind whipped around the parking lot, and I remember that I thought it was strange to be North of downtown, as I&#8217;d be out in the middle of Lake Erie if I were still back in Cleveland!</p>
<p>Over 32 years later I still reside in the Twin Cities. I‘ve contemplated over the years, wouldn’t it have been great if my grandfather, Murdock, who emigrated from Scotland to Cleveland, via Canada in the 19-teens, were still alive to talk about the ships of the Great Lakes; and, share in the excitement of my move from Ohio to the iron ore producing state. You see, he had worked on the ore boats plying those waters in the 1930’s, sailing from the Cleveland steel mills to Duluth to pick up the precious ore. However, he passed away 5 years before my move to Minnesota; and, that fateful day for those seamen of the Edmund Fitzgerald.</p>
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		<title>By: Capt. Ed Montgomery</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/oldnews/archives/44#comment-780</link>
		<dc:creator>Capt. Ed Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine sailed and would come back into Duluth every few weeks so we could help blow his paycheck, just a couple young guys being wild occasionally. Bill sailed as a Bosun’s Mate, I believe, on the Anderson. They were a few miles behind the Fitz and did their best to find survivors. He told me some of the Anderson crew were injured that night by flying rivets down in the lower forward quarters. The ship was sagging and twisting so violently from the huge seas that the rivets would sheer off the bulkhead and fire across the room like a ricocheting bullet. They had to lay down on the floor to put on their “Gumby suits”, as a precaution if they went down, which are one piece rubberized survival outfits. 

After the Fitz incident Bill changed, becoming more quiet and introspective, rather than the rollicking sailor he used to be.  In fact, a couple weeks after the Fitz sank, his ship arrived back in Duluth and he walked down the gangway with his last check, signed his Sailor’s Discharge papers – and never went back. He was thoroughly shaken by the events that November. I went on and stayed in the maritime trades and am now a Captain myself, mainly working locally in and around the Duluth-Superior harbor and Lake Superior running tugs and Pilot boats. Some of the Fitz crew were acquaintances and when she kicks up a storm and I’m rolling around out there looking at walls of water as high as a building, I often think of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine sailed and would come back into Duluth every few weeks so we could help blow his paycheck, just a couple young guys being wild occasionally. Bill sailed as a Bosun’s Mate, I believe, on the Anderson. They were a few miles behind the Fitz and did their best to find survivors. He told me some of the Anderson crew were injured that night by flying rivets down in the lower forward quarters. The ship was sagging and twisting so violently from the huge seas that the rivets would sheer off the bulkhead and fire across the room like a ricocheting bullet. They had to lay down on the floor to put on their “Gumby suits”, as a precaution if they went down, which are one piece rubberized survival outfits. </p>
<p>After the Fitz incident Bill changed, becoming more quiet and introspective, rather than the rollicking sailor he used to be.  In fact, a couple weeks after the Fitz sank, his ship arrived back in Duluth and he walked down the gangway with his last check, signed his Sailor’s Discharge papers – and never went back. He was thoroughly shaken by the events that November. I went on and stayed in the maritime trades and am now a Captain myself, mainly working locally in and around the Duluth-Superior harbor and Lake Superior running tugs and Pilot boats. Some of the Fitz crew were acquaintances and when she kicks up a storm and I’m rolling around out there looking at walls of water as high as a building, I often think of them.</p>
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		<title>By: maria santiago</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/oldnews/archives/44#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>maria santiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was borned november 29 1975 and its a special thing to find out what happenned before i was born thank you</description>
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		<title>By: Douglas W. Covey</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/oldnews/archives/44#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas W. Covey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here we are in 2007 and I still remember that awful day like it was yesterday. I was an oiler on the Canadian Progress and we were in that storm.

We were on Lake Huron , heading up to the Soo . What a horrible night that was , I remember having to go to the Engine Room and help tie down any thing that could move. The boat was rolling and shaking violently.

On deck , all available hands were out tying down the unloading boom - the Canadian Progress was a Self Unloader . The violent rolling and pitching had broke some of the wire stays and turnbuckles.

But it was breakfast the next morning I will never forget . I was on the 8 to 12 watch so came into the Galley with most of the crew . First thing Cookie told us all was that the Edmund Fitzgerald had gone down the night before. 29 men gone.

Not one man ate anything . We sat with our coffees and teas , in stunned silence. Even writing this now is bringing it all back . We all knew the horror those men must have felt as they tried to save their ship , and the finality of their demise was so emotionally felt by all Great Lakes sailors that morning.

God keep those brave warm in their ice water grave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we are in 2007 and I still remember that awful day like it was yesterday. I was an oiler on the Canadian Progress and we were in that storm.</p>
<p>We were on Lake Huron , heading up to the Soo . What a horrible night that was , I remember having to go to the Engine Room and help tie down any thing that could move. The boat was rolling and shaking violently.</p>
<p>On deck , all available hands were out tying down the unloading boom - the Canadian Progress was a Self Unloader . The violent rolling and pitching had broke some of the wire stays and turnbuckles.</p>
<p>But it was breakfast the next morning I will never forget . I was on the 8 to 12 watch so came into the Galley with most of the crew . First thing Cookie told us all was that the Edmund Fitzgerald had gone down the night before. 29 men gone.</p>
<p>Not one man ate anything . We sat with our coffees and teas , in stunned silence. Even writing this now is bringing it all back . We all knew the horror those men must have felt as they tried to save their ship , and the finality of their demise was so emotionally felt by all Great Lakes sailors that morning.</p>
<p>God keep those brave warm in their ice water grave</p>
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		<title>By: John A. Doerner</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/oldnews/archives/44#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>John A. Doerner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was attending UM-Duluth that fall in 1975 and remember seeing the news flash on t.v. while I was visiting a friend on the UW-Superior campus.  That night driving back to UMD over the bridge I saw the Woodrush steaming out of the harbor and glanced down to the Aerial Lift Bridge and the waves were pounding high against, and over the twin lighthouses at the entrance!  My 1971 Hornet was pounded by the wind and sleet and I will never forget that fateful night of 10 November 1975!  My father bowled with Al Kalmon who was 2nd Cook on the Fitz as he was from my home town of Washburn Wisconsin! The Fitz and Arthur M. Anderson were familiar sights in the early 1970's at anchor in Superior harbor, and I can still vividly recall that terrible night like it was only yesterday!  I will never forget how violent Lake Superior got that day, and remembered praying for the safe return of the Edmund Fitzgerald crew, and for the Woodrush who bravely steamed out into the dark gales of November that terrible night!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was attending UM-Duluth that fall in 1975 and remember seeing the news flash on t.v. while I was visiting a friend on the UW-Superior campus.  That night driving back to UMD over the bridge I saw the Woodrush steaming out of the harbor and glanced down to the Aerial Lift Bridge and the waves were pounding high against, and over the twin lighthouses at the entrance!  My 1971 Hornet was pounded by the wind and sleet and I will never forget that fateful night of 10 November 1975!  My father bowled with Al Kalmon who was 2nd Cook on the Fitz as he was from my home town of Washburn Wisconsin! The Fitz and Arthur M. Anderson were familiar sights in the early 1970&#8217;s at anchor in Superior harbor, and I can still vividly recall that terrible night like it was only yesterday!  I will never forget how violent Lake Superior got that day, and remembered praying for the safe return of the Edmund Fitzgerald crew, and for the Woodrush who bravely steamed out into the dark gales of November that terrible night!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Soyring</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/oldnews/archives/44#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Soyring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>November 11, 2007 Paradise Michigan...
After breakfast I met up with a Man and his young daughter in the gift shop area.  He informed me that he was very interested in the Fitzgerald, and admitted that he was a "boat nerd".  That he learned allot on the "boat nerd website".  The little girl was admiring stuffed animals that were there on display.  I took several down for her to examine closer, and after hugging each one, and softly rubbing the fur against her little angelic face... she found the one she liked the best.  It was a dog.
In a split second, my memories raced back in time, to when my uncle Buck brought a puppy home for us.  And I felt a need and desire to purchase that dog for the little girl.  And I did.

Now I don't know who that little girl was, but I hope wherever she is, that she will remember the dog that she got while visiting the Fitzgerald Memorial at Whitefish Point, and that it was a gift from a Fitzgerald Family member.  The Nephew of Oliver J. "Buck" Champeau, the 3rd engineer of the Edmund Fitzgerald.  It was from the heart, and if she reads this, she will know why I did it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>November 11, 2007 Paradise Michigan&#8230;<br />
After breakfast I met up with a Man and his young daughter in the gift shop area.  He informed me that he was very interested in the Fitzgerald, and admitted that he was a &#8220;boat nerd&#8221;.  That he learned allot on the &#8220;boat nerd website&#8221;.  The little girl was admiring stuffed animals that were there on display.  I took several down for her to examine closer, and after hugging each one, and softly rubbing the fur against her little angelic face&#8230; she found the one she liked the best.  It was a dog.<br />
In a split second, my memories raced back in time, to when my uncle Buck brought a puppy home for us.  And I felt a need and desire to purchase that dog for the little girl.  And I did.</p>
<p>Now I don&#8217;t know who that little girl was, but I hope wherever she is, that she will remember the dog that she got while visiting the Fitzgerald Memorial at Whitefish Point, and that it was a gift from a Fitzgerald Family member.  The Nephew of Oliver J. &#8220;Buck&#8221; Champeau, the 3rd engineer of the Edmund Fitzgerald.  It was from the heart, and if she reads this, she will know why I did it.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Frederick</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/oldnews/archives/44#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Frederick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in Duluth in 1975 when the Fitz went down. On the very evening of the tragedy, I wrote the song "Twenty-Nine More Men" which was the first song ever written about the Fitzgerald. Although Gordon had the hit song, my song still sells as a collector's item. List to a 30 second clip of the song at www.ssedmundfitzgerald.com   Roscoe Clark has a wonderful website about the Fitzgerald! May God Bless all the families who lost loved ones that night!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in Duluth in 1975 when the Fitz went down. On the very evening of the tragedy, I wrote the song &#8220;Twenty-Nine More Men&#8221; which was the first song ever written about the Fitzgerald. Although Gordon had the hit song, my song still sells as a collector&#8217;s item. List to a 30 second clip of the song at <a href="http://www.ssedmundfitzgerald.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ssedmundfitzgerald.com</a>   Roscoe Clark has a wonderful website about the Fitzgerald! May God Bless all the families who lost loved ones that night!</p>
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