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	<title>Comments on: Kraftwerk @ Myth</title>
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		<title>By: AAYellowCab</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/poplife/2008/04/20/kraftwerk-myth/#comment-4850</link>
		<dc:creator>AAYellowCab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a lame review. I'd like to pile on.

I enjoyed the show immensely, as Kraftwerk are, well, Kraftwerk, and twice before I have been thwarted from seeing them, in Detroit in 1980 and in Tokyo in the late 90s. Their movies really enhance their music.

This was in spite of the poor layout, crowded conditions, poor bass reproduction and inhuman staff at Myth. My first and last visit.

And in spite of the absence of Florian Schneider. What kind of journalist are you? Your ignorant comments about the group and their music are bad enough - you shouldn't have been sent to review the show in the first place. But when the group launch their tour in the Twin Cities, and one of the co-founders is missing, that's news! And you completely missed it!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a lame review. I&#8217;d like to pile on.</p>
<p>I enjoyed the show immensely, as Kraftwerk are, well, Kraftwerk, and twice before I have been thwarted from seeing them, in Detroit in 1980 and in Tokyo in the late 90s. Their movies really enhance their music.</p>
<p>This was in spite of the poor layout, crowded conditions, poor bass reproduction and inhuman staff at Myth. My first and last visit.</p>
<p>And in spite of the absence of Florian Schneider. What kind of journalist are you? Your ignorant comments about the group and their music are bad enough - you shouldn&#8217;t have been sent to review the show in the first place. But when the group launch their tour in the Twin Cities, and one of the co-founders is missing, that&#8217;s news! And you completely missed it!</p>
<p>Par for the course for today&#8217;s Strib.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff - jmy9595</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/poplife/2008/04/20/kraftwerk-myth/#comment-4848</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff - jmy9595</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for patdowns, etc., yeah, they were a bit intrusive, but I'd prefer that than being stabbed/shot at a show and that's happened before.  Would be helpful, say, if the guys doing the patdowns checked the small of your back, best place to conceal a handgun....

As for Kraftwerk "not happening" much for the past 20 years, they've been busy digitizing their entire recording studio, which in the process makes the whole thing portable for touring.  Kraftwerk have earned the right to be as productive or laid back as they choose to be.  This is a group that has always set its own rules.  Their studio has no phone, etc.; even EMI always had a hard time reaching them.  When KW has material, they take it to the studio.  It's their way.

One more side note: why is KW not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for all their influence???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for patdowns, etc., yeah, they were a bit intrusive, but I&#8217;d prefer that than being stabbed/shot at a show and that&#8217;s happened before.  Would be helpful, say, if the guys doing the patdowns checked the small of your back, best place to conceal a handgun&#8230;.</p>
<p>As for Kraftwerk &#8220;not happening&#8221; much for the past 20 years, they&#8217;ve been busy digitizing their entire recording studio, which in the process makes the whole thing portable for touring.  Kraftwerk have earned the right to be as productive or laid back as they choose to be.  This is a group that has always set its own rules.  Their studio has no phone, etc.; even EMI always had a hard time reaching them.  When KW has material, they take it to the studio.  It&#8217;s their way.</p>
<p>One more side note: why is KW not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for all their influence???</p>
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		<title>By: s/m</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/poplife/2008/04/20/kraftwerk-myth/#comment-4847</link>
		<dc:creator>s/m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/poplife/2008/04/20/kraftwerk-myth/#comment-4847</guid>
		<description>I think you kinda missed the point there TRG.  It's not about giving a positive/negative review.  It's about having knowledgeable writers on staff who actually know what's going on.  I'm not really a fan of Kraftwerk (I do, however, respect their place in the development of electronic music) but if you're going to write about them, at least bother to do a small amount of background research.  This is merely one example of how clueless the TC music press is about what's going on outside of the rock/hip hop scene and that is even debatable.  Ever wonder why your dead tree music press is irrelevant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you kinda missed the point there TRG.  It&#8217;s not about giving a positive/negative review.  It&#8217;s about having knowledgeable writers on staff who actually know what&#8217;s going on.  I&#8217;m not really a fan of Kraftwerk (I do, however, respect their place in the development of electronic music) but if you&#8217;re going to write about them, at least bother to do a small amount of background research.  This is merely one example of how clueless the TC music press is about what&#8217;s going on outside of the rock/hip hop scene and that is even debatable.  Ever wonder why your dead tree music press is irrelevant?</p>
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		<title>By: Thick Rimmed Glasses</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/poplife/2008/04/20/kraftwerk-myth/#comment-4846</link>
		<dc:creator>Thick Rimmed Glasses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/poplife/2008/04/20/kraftwerk-myth/#comment-4846</guid>
		<description>Kraftwerk sure hasn't been happening much in the last 20 years..it's great to respect pioneers of a genre but that shouldn't make them immune to criticism when they decide to go on tour at 60 years old. The same thing happens with every single review written here that isn't glowingly positive and slobbering all over the artist. From Bon Jovi to some Idol reject to Kraftwerk. Of course most of you thought the show was fantastic, you were there and you've been a fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kraftwerk sure hasn&#8217;t been happening much in the last 20 years..it&#8217;s great to respect pioneers of a genre but that shouldn&#8217;t make them immune to criticism when they decide to go on tour at 60 years old. The same thing happens with every single review written here that isn&#8217;t glowingly positive and slobbering all over the artist. From Bon Jovi to some Idol reject to Kraftwerk. Of course most of you thought the show was fantastic, you were there and you&#8217;ve been a fan.</p>
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		<title>By: s/m</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/poplife/2008/04/20/kraftwerk-myth/#comment-4845</link>
		<dc:creator>s/m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2008/04/21/minneapolis-hates-kraftwerk/

Way to continue to propagate the view that Minneapolis is a musically retarded culture, especially when it comes to music journalism.  The fact that it's now the 21st century, seems to have escaped the notice of most of the music journalism outlets in the twin cities.  Perhaps hiring writers with some awareness of what been happening in music for the last 20 years would help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2008/04/21/minneapolis-hates-kraftwerk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2008/04/21/minneapolis-hates-kraftwerk/</a></p>
<p>Way to continue to propagate the view that Minneapolis is a musically retarded culture, especially when it comes to music journalism.  The fact that it&#8217;s now the 21st century, seems to have escaped the notice of most of the music journalism outlets in the twin cities.  Perhaps hiring writers with some awareness of what been happening in music for the last 20 years would help.</p>
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		<title>By: Older Engineer</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/poplife/2008/04/20/kraftwerk-myth/#comment-4844</link>
		<dc:creator>Older Engineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/poplife/2008/04/20/kraftwerk-myth/#comment-4844</guid>
		<description>Reviewer obviously does not understand that Kraftwerk are the godfathers of electronic music and in fact are half computer/half men. There's this one sequence of bleeps and bloops during Autobahn that invokes a sweeping feeling of complete bliss that momentarily overtakes you. It was at that point I realized that when I go, I want a computer to kill me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reviewer obviously does not understand that Kraftwerk are the godfathers of electronic music and in fact are half computer/half men. There&#8217;s this one sequence of bleeps and bloops during Autobahn that invokes a sweeping feeling of complete bliss that momentarily overtakes you. It was at that point I realized that when I go, I want a computer to kill me.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Eastin</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/poplife/2008/04/20/kraftwerk-myth/#comment-4843</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Eastin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 03:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/poplife/2008/04/20/kraftwerk-myth/#comment-4843</guid>
		<description>Here Here.  

Still not mentioned much here is that Kraftwerk sound is FROM THE GROUND UP.  The unitiated would say "What is that?" ie., sounds never heard before.  Or those of us who know electronics understand this is all orginal generation of sound as well as composition.  No sampling here.  No doing anyone's licks.  

As one example, in Tour de France there was a sequence which involved several blocks of sound across the stereo spectrum, resulting in a perception of a spoken word. This is absolutely brilliant, takes lots of work, and results in a beautiful, emotional effect on the audience. A group of younger fans were dancing like crazy behind me on that one.  Children also, so I don't think they even know the depth of work here.  Just loved the sound.  

Kraftwerk has a completely unique sound, which is formed expression.  Artists. Comparing them to James Brown is still not adequate since Brown worked within blues and soul genres.  Kraftwerk creates its own genre. NEW MUSIC.
 
Also, the view of these old guys hanging on to their old glory, let's remember they are (were) godfathers, etc--Way off.

They continue to be mentors and you will continue to see followers.

On another topic, the club.  THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE BEEN PATTED DOWN SEARCHED AND ASKED TO REMOVE ITEMS FROM MY POCKETS AT ANY CONCERT OR CLUB TYPE VENUE. PERIOD.  AND I HAVE BEEN AROUND.  THEY DID IT TO EVERYONE.  WHATS GOING ON HERE!!! THERE WERE NO METAL DETECTORS FROM WHAT I COULD SEE, AND THEY DIDN'T GO DOWN THE LEGS, SO THIS WOULDN'T EVEN ASSURE SAFETY ANYWAY.  

THIS SHOULD BE A BIG STORY AND I PLAN TO PURSUE THIS. INVADING PRIVACY OF MIDLE AGED PROFESIONALS LIKE ME AND MOST ATTENDEES; AS WELL AS THE YELLING, ORDERING, AND CONDESCENSION; WHILE NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR ANYONE, WERE PARTICULARLY ASSININE.  THIS WAS A MODEL BEHAVED CROWD, CONSIDERING WE WERE PACKED IN LIKE SARDINES IN A CONCRETE BOX. ODDLY, THE COAT CHECK LADY WAS VERY SWEET (CLOSER TO OUR AGE)AND WATCHED MY HAT AND GLOVES.

I WILL NEVER ATTEND THIS VENUE AGAIN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here Here.  </p>
<p>Still not mentioned much here is that Kraftwerk sound is FROM THE GROUND UP.  The unitiated would say &#8220;What is that?&#8221; ie., sounds never heard before.  Or those of us who know electronics understand this is all orginal generation of sound as well as composition.  No sampling here.  No doing anyone&#8217;s licks.  </p>
<p>As one example, in Tour de France there was a sequence which involved several blocks of sound across the stereo spectrum, resulting in a perception of a spoken word. This is absolutely brilliant, takes lots of work, and results in a beautiful, emotional effect on the audience. A group of younger fans were dancing like crazy behind me on that one.  Children also, so I don&#8217;t think they even know the depth of work here.  Just loved the sound.  </p>
<p>Kraftwerk has a completely unique sound, which is formed expression.  Artists. Comparing them to James Brown is still not adequate since Brown worked within blues and soul genres.  Kraftwerk creates its own genre. NEW MUSIC.</p>
<p>Also, the view of these old guys hanging on to their old glory, let&#8217;s remember they are (were) godfathers, etc&#8211;Way off.</p>
<p>They continue to be mentors and you will continue to see followers.</p>
<p>On another topic, the club.  THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE BEEN PATTED DOWN SEARCHED AND ASKED TO REMOVE ITEMS FROM MY POCKETS AT ANY CONCERT OR CLUB TYPE VENUE. PERIOD.  AND I HAVE BEEN AROUND.  THEY DID IT TO EVERYONE.  WHATS GOING ON HERE!!! THERE WERE NO METAL DETECTORS FROM WHAT I COULD SEE, AND THEY DIDN&#8217;T GO DOWN THE LEGS, SO THIS WOULDN&#8217;T EVEN ASSURE SAFETY ANYWAY.  </p>
<p>THIS SHOULD BE A BIG STORY AND I PLAN TO PURSUE THIS. INVADING PRIVACY OF MIDLE AGED PROFESIONALS LIKE ME AND MOST ATTENDEES; AS WELL AS THE YELLING, ORDERING, AND CONDESCENSION; WHILE NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR ANYONE, WERE PARTICULARLY ASSININE.  THIS WAS A MODEL BEHAVED CROWD, CONSIDERING WE WERE PACKED IN LIKE SARDINES IN A CONCRETE BOX. ODDLY, THE COAT CHECK LADY WAS VERY SWEET (CLOSER TO OUR AGE)AND WATCHED MY HAT AND GLOVES.</p>
<p>I WILL NEVER ATTEND THIS VENUE AGAIN.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/poplife/2008/04/20/kraftwerk-myth/#comment-4842</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Bream,

you don`t know a lot about Kraftwerk! OK! This music genre is obviously not your cup of tea. Fine, no problem!

But that you did not realise that Florian Schneider wasn´t even there....OUCH! Ralf &#38; Florian are often called the godfathers of electronic music and working together for 40 years, at least you should have mentioned that Florian wasn`t on stage. You missed THE STORY man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Bream,</p>
<p>you don`t know a lot about Kraftwerk! OK! This music genre is obviously not your cup of tea. Fine, no problem!</p>
<p>But that you did not realise that Florian Schneider wasn´t even there&#8230;.OUCH! Ralf &amp; Florian are often called the godfathers of electronic music and working together for 40 years, at least you should have mentioned that Florian wasn`t on stage. You missed THE STORY man!</p>
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		<title>By: Mindmixer</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/poplife/2008/04/20/kraftwerk-myth/#comment-4841</link>
		<dc:creator>Mindmixer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/poplife/2008/04/20/kraftwerk-myth/#comment-4841</guid>
		<description>I feel somewhat sad for Mr. Bream at this point.  Here he is with no knowledge of how Kraftwerk was sampled over and over and over again by 70's/80's/90's/00's (let's not forget Fergie sampling them) and never raising a fuss over their rights.  He has no knowledge of how their pioneering spirit helped create Germanic music with electronics after two World Wars demonized their culture.  He does not attempt to understand that the two septuagenarians in the group created a set of masterpieces not limited to themselves, and the absence of one indicates either some serious problem between them or perhaps with himself.

Not only did I go to this show but I also went to the show at the Monegros Music Festival ourside of Zaragoza, Spain in 2006.  Truthfully, the members did a better job of staying motionless at that performance than at Myth.  I honestly referred to Ralf's activity to my girlfriend as 'flailing away' compared to Monegros.  With most differences viewed as kindly as possible, I actually thought the show at Myth was better.  The smaller setting made for better views (unless you ended up getting moved by a bouncer) and a more thorough enjoyment of the music, even if it left your guts gently bruised from the bass.

Rest assured, Mr. Bream wlll be forgiven provided that he does better research on future reviews.  As for Florian Schneider, let's simply hope that all is well.  Even if he chose to retire at 61, he is certainly deserving; he has created something far bigger than himself or his works in Kraftwerk.

(So, how do we petition them to come back in less than 32 years?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel somewhat sad for Mr. Bream at this point.  Here he is with no knowledge of how Kraftwerk was sampled over and over and over again by 70&#8217;s/80&#8217;s/90&#8217;s/00&#8217;s (let&#8217;s not forget Fergie sampling them) and never raising a fuss over their rights.  He has no knowledge of how their pioneering spirit helped create Germanic music with electronics after two World Wars demonized their culture.  He does not attempt to understand that the two septuagenarians in the group created a set of masterpieces not limited to themselves, and the absence of one indicates either some serious problem between them or perhaps with himself.</p>
<p>Not only did I go to this show but I also went to the show at the Monegros Music Festival ourside of Zaragoza, Spain in 2006.  Truthfully, the members did a better job of staying motionless at that performance than at Myth.  I honestly referred to Ralf&#8217;s activity to my girlfriend as &#8216;flailing away&#8217; compared to Monegros.  With most differences viewed as kindly as possible, I actually thought the show at Myth was better.  The smaller setting made for better views (unless you ended up getting moved by a bouncer) and a more thorough enjoyment of the music, even if it left your guts gently bruised from the bass.</p>
<p>Rest assured, Mr. Bream wlll be forgiven provided that he does better research on future reviews.  As for Florian Schneider, let&#8217;s simply hope that all is well.  Even if he chose to retire at 61, he is certainly deserving; he has created something far bigger than himself or his works in Kraftwerk.</p>
<p>(So, how do we petition them to come back in less than 32 years?)</p>
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		<title>By: Critty</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/poplife/2008/04/20/kraftwerk-myth/#comment-4840</link>
		<dc:creator>Critty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr Reviewer, KRAFTWERK IS GERMAN!!!  They are minimalists!  That's their schtick.  Are you just mad because you were actually hoping to go see Bret Michaels @ the Myth?  How dare you sir.  You insulted the granddaddies of all electronica.  It's like saying that you think James Brown just wasn't trying hard enough towards the last few years of his career.  They are icons!  Take all the advances in modern music, and odds are that Kraftwerk started it.  Just how many shows have you gone to that features animatronics?  I was in the front row on the right side and I was raptured!  Seeing Kraftwerk play was a dream come true for me!  I have been a fan since I was a baby and that is NO exaggeration!  My husband I played "Computer Love" for our wedding recessional.  I wasn't alive the last time Kraftwerk came to town, but seeing them on Saturday helped make my young life more complete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Reviewer, KRAFTWERK IS GERMAN!!!  They are minimalists!  That&#8217;s their schtick.  Are you just mad because you were actually hoping to go see Bret Michaels @ the Myth?  How dare you sir.  You insulted the granddaddies of all electronica.  It&#8217;s like saying that you think James Brown just wasn&#8217;t trying hard enough towards the last few years of his career.  They are icons!  Take all the advances in modern music, and odds are that Kraftwerk started it.  Just how many shows have you gone to that features animatronics?  I was in the front row on the right side and I was raptured!  Seeing Kraftwerk play was a dream come true for me!  I have been a fan since I was a baby and that is NO exaggeration!  My husband I played &#8220;Computer Love&#8221; for our wedding recessional.  I wasn&#8217;t alive the last time Kraftwerk came to town, but seeing them on Saturday helped make my young life more complete.</p>
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