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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: baseball &#38;#187; Knoblauch served subpoena inside hot dog bun</title>
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		<dc:creator>baseball &#38;#187; Knoblauch served subpoena inside hot dog bun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 05:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] RandBall wrote a fantastic post today on &#38;#8220;Knoblauch served subpoena inside hot dog bun&#38;#8221;Here&#38;#8217;s ONLY a quick extract31, with former New York Mets clubhouse employee Kirk Radomski to appear Feb. 1. “The committee has taken this step because Mr. Knoblauch failed to respond to the invitation to participate voluntarily in a deposition or transcribed &#38;#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] RandBall wrote a fantastic post today on &#38;#8220;Knoblauch served subpoena inside hot dog bun&#38;#8221;Here&#38;#8217;s ONLY a quick extract31, with former New York Mets clubhouse employee Kirk Radomski to appear Feb. 1. “The committee has taken this step because Mr. Knoblauch failed to respond to the invitation to participate voluntarily in a deposition or transcribed &#38;#8230; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Peter Paulos</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/01/22/knoblauch-served-subpoena-inside-hot-dog-bun/#comment-36143</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Peter Paulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's the kicker, dano. The cops etal (the powers that be in other words) will pronounce they are doing ab autopsy...Whoopee

What they don't breach to the public at all is that if they find drugs as the cause of death (and that seems likely) they cannot see a) if he took them in a short period of time to kill himself, since most psychotropics don't fire up in minutes..but some time release for hours or b) if he took the drugs to sleep/get away from life for awhile then he woke up and took some more then woke up and ...

So, all an autopsy can do is give the cause of death not his reason for it.
In short then, many drug deaths are cause by people whacked out on drugs wanting to be more whacked out. But suicide ? Calling it that is mind rape, since only he would know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the kicker, dano. The cops etal (the powers that be in other words) will pronounce they are doing ab autopsy&#8230;Whoopee</p>
<p>What they don&#8217;t breach to the public at all is that if they find drugs as the cause of death (and that seems likely) they cannot see a) if he took them in a short period of time to kill himself, since most psychotropics don&#8217;t fire up in minutes..but some time release for hours or b) if he took the drugs to sleep/get away from life for awhile then he woke up and took some more then woke up and &#8230;</p>
<p>So, all an autopsy can do is give the cause of death not his reason for it.<br />
In short then, many drug deaths are cause by people whacked out on drugs wanting to be more whacked out. But suicide ? Calling it that is mind rape, since only he would know.</p>
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		<title>By: danonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>danonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I going to hell if the first thing I thought when I heard Heath Ledger died was:

"Gee, I sure hope they finished filming the new Batman"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I going to hell if the first thing I thought when I heard Heath Ledger died was:</p>
<p>&#8220;Gee, I sure hope they finished filming the new Batman&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Peter Paulos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Peter Paulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramon, agreed. Now the same media throng is summing up the life of the skater, Christopher Bowman's, as torn by manic-depression and ended by drugs. Strange. Earlier accounts had him as a "depressive", the ugly twin sister of  depression, and if so his meds would have been radically different. But, just assuming he was manic-d, and assuming his main drug was lithium, a huge assumption when other anti-seizure/manic meds might be used as well, he would have went toxic with an overdose, a very painful state, not at all the feeling state anyone would want to experience in a "suicide" attempt..so, in essence, I don't think he was using his main meds to do so.

It's far more likely (if he even intended to die) that he would be taking something to sleep, perhaps something mild like lorazepam which is an anti-anxiety but which gives some 4 + hours of sleep. Problem is, people acclimate to it quickly so later on, it gives only 3 then 2 hours of sleep, so..if this or another anti-anxiety  or sleep aid was a drug he took, he would take more hoping to get the same bang for the buck..

But, if all this makes sense, it shouldn't since I don't know his meds nor his diagnosis, if any, so to theorize after the fact...in the mass media of all places...is incredibly tacky and surely jumping the gun. Yet, I know there will be those who, politely, say we should wait for the results before we publish anything. I am not one of those people. I do not believe we have any right to know the last days of this man. The war in Palestine is news. This isn't. This is private.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramon, agreed. Now the same media throng is summing up the life of the skater, Christopher Bowman&#8217;s, as torn by manic-depression and ended by drugs. Strange. Earlier accounts had him as a &#8220;depressive&#8221;, the ugly twin sister of  depression, and if so his meds would have been radically different. But, just assuming he was manic-d, and assuming his main drug was lithium, a huge assumption when other anti-seizure/manic meds might be used as well, he would have went toxic with an overdose, a very painful state, not at all the feeling state anyone would want to experience in a &#8220;suicide&#8221; attempt..so, in essence, I don&#8217;t think he was using his main meds to do so.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s far more likely (if he even intended to die) that he would be taking something to sleep, perhaps something mild like lorazepam which is an anti-anxiety but which gives some 4 + hours of sleep. Problem is, people acclimate to it quickly so later on, it gives only 3 then 2 hours of sleep, so..if this or another anti-anxiety  or sleep aid was a drug he took, he would take more hoping to get the same bang for the buck..</p>
<p>But, if all this makes sense, it shouldn&#8217;t since I don&#8217;t know his meds nor his diagnosis, if any, so to theorize after the fact&#8230;in the mass media of all places&#8230;is incredibly tacky and surely jumping the gun. Yet, I know there will be those who, politely, say we should wait for the results before we publish anything. I am not one of those people. I do not believe we have any right to know the last days of this man. The war in Palestine is news. This isn&#8217;t. This is private.</p>
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		<title>By: ramon</title>
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		<dc:creator>ramon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 06:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - Suicide's the word the press throws out to sensationalize. An actor (who has worked two films with Gilliam - meaning pretty intense) who dies with medication in their system does not imply a conscious decision to take one's own life. The Owen Wilson thing seems to have given the intraweb carte blanch to make it's own assumptions.

As you say, I mentioned what impressed me about him was his ability to work a project for the sake of the project - a real actor. It's what made him solid and moreso solid beyond his years. Like you said he never was in the news for stupid stuff - unlike Brad Renfro, who had unlimited potential but let his demons parade themselves to the media.

When I was growing up I was taught that Morrison, Hendrix, Joplin and Lenny Bruce all committed suicide. That's when I looked up the word "didactic". Not directing this towards Dave - to assume  (by the media and local authorities) that Ledger's death is suicide is irresponsible even in the most didactic context. To make a local analogy, assumptions like that are something the media and "authorities" have learned from Mark Loesch case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave - Suicide&#8217;s the word the press throws out to sensationalize. An actor (who has worked two films with Gilliam - meaning pretty intense) who dies with medication in their system does not imply a conscious decision to take one&#8217;s own life. The Owen Wilson thing seems to have given the intraweb carte blanch to make it&#8217;s own assumptions.</p>
<p>As you say, I mentioned what impressed me about him was his ability to work a project for the sake of the project - a real actor. It&#8217;s what made him solid and moreso solid beyond his years. Like you said he never was in the news for stupid stuff - unlike Brad Renfro, who had unlimited potential but let his demons parade themselves to the media.</p>
<p>When I was growing up I was taught that Morrison, Hendrix, Joplin and Lenny Bruce all committed suicide. That&#8217;s when I looked up the word &#8220;didactic&#8221;. Not directing this towards Dave - to assume  (by the media and local authorities) that Ledger&#8217;s death is suicide is irresponsible even in the most didactic context. To make a local analogy, assumptions like that are something the media and &#8220;authorities&#8221; have learned from Mark Loesch case.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Peter Paulos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Peter Paulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though Knobby su.ked the bag at the end of his career, he once had a decent (not great arm) and my brother and I went to a Twins game and watched him warm up. My brother, as is his sadistic way, then reminded me of my most memorable if horrid kid baseball moment. It began with a weak ground ball hit directly to Tony, boy-mountain at first base. Tony's size, gargantuan by boy standards, was only eclipsed by his maniacal single-mindedness to win at all costs, an American Gladiator before his time. Some say he went on to star for the All Attica prison team.
Regardless. The kid had a real gun, best I ever saw in 6th grade and picking up the dribbler he fired it to me at 3rd with so much pop on it it
seemed to arrive the very moment it was released. Routine it seemed. However, as the runner, breaking early from 2nd, crossed in front of me, I took my eye - momentarily - off the ball. Mistake. Spitting out gore all the way home, that single episode convinced me to never again play in the dirt of the infield instead making the wondrous diving catch in the wide open green outfield, so I do give credit to Knoblauch, if only because infield is for maniacs..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though Knobby su.ked the bag at the end of his career, he once had a decent (not great arm) and my brother and I went to a Twins game and watched him warm up. My brother, as is his sadistic way, then reminded me of my most memorable if horrid kid baseball moment. It began with a weak ground ball hit directly to Tony, boy-mountain at first base. Tony&#8217;s size, gargantuan by boy standards, was only eclipsed by his maniacal single-mindedness to win at all costs, an American Gladiator before his time. Some say he went on to star for the All Attica prison team.<br />
Regardless. The kid had a real gun, best I ever saw in 6th grade and picking up the dribbler he fired it to me at 3rd with so much pop on it it<br />
seemed to arrive the very moment it was released. Routine it seemed. However, as the runner, breaking early from 2nd, crossed in front of me, I took my eye - momentarily - off the ball. Mistake. Spitting out gore all the way home, that single episode convinced me to never again play in the dirt of the infield instead making the wondrous diving catch in the wide open green outfield, so I do give credit to Knoblauch, if only because infield is for maniacs..</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Peter Paulos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Peter Paulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No maybe instead he might yell "sh.t no ! Not again !!"</description>
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