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Wednesday (Great Debate) edition: Wha’ Happened?

Posted on July 2nd, 2008 – 11:13 AM
By Michael Rand

Today’s subject — other than “what happened to our series of tubes this morning? — is Tarvaris Jackson. As we mentioned yesterday, you can participate in this series as well by sending us a post (300 words or thereabouts) by Sunday.

Will Tarvaris Jackson be “the man” this year?

This would be the proverbial 900-pound gorilla in the room if not for the fact that everybody in the state of Minnesota – even within the Vikings organization – acknowledges it. The fact is that, barring significant injuries at other positions, Jackson’s development will be the single most important factor that determines whether the Vikings can make the leap into the playoffs and possibly beyond.

Last year was certainly encouraging from some standpoints, but it was also a very mixed bag filled with bad decisions (jump passes aren’t good), more injuries and a general unease when watching young Tarvaris play.

In order to be “the man,” as stated so eloquently in the question, Jackson doesn’t have to be Brett Favre (especially the part about the crushing addiction to pain medication). We hate the term “game manager” because it has been used and abused to the point that analysts don’t know what it means anymore, but Jackson does need to make good decisions on the vast majority of plays. That doesn’t always mean throwing it away on 3rd-and-5; sometimes it means tucking it under and running; sometimes it means threading the needle. It’s all about risk and reward at the QB position: don’t take a risk unless the potential reward is worth it.

Come to think of it, that kind of sums of Jackson. Brad Childress took a risk in moving up to get Jackson – a gifted but somewhat raw athlete who also appears to have the poise and leadership traits necessary to succeed – and the head coach obviously thought the potential reward was worth it. If we find out this year that Childress was wrong, the consequences will run deep.

It’s early July right now, though, and anything is possible. This thing could go one way or another way. Which one will it be?

36 Responses to "Wednesday (Great Debate) edition: Wha’ Happened?"

Jon says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 11:33 am

I don’t want Jackson to be a game manager. Brad Johnson was the ultimate game manager, and all that meant was that he’d throw the ball away five times per game and invariably hit the check-down on third down, even if it was 3rd-and-12 and the receiver would have to break 14 tackles to reach the marker. I hated Brad Johnson. I’d much rather have someone a little dynamic back there, even if it means the occasional jump pass.

fasolamatt says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 12:13 pm

Today’s link probably lost in space, but hey, here’s Devo and McDonald’s in the news!

lattewarrior says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 12:13 pm

Tommy Kramer, Wade Wilson, Tommy Kramer II, Wade Wilson II, Rich Gannon, Jim McMahon, Warren Moon, Brad Johnson, Randall Cunningham, Jeff George, Daunte Culpepper, Brad Johnson II… among these Vikings QB alums I’d say T-Jax most resembles Rich Gannon. Gannon had a decent arm, used his legs to get in and out of trouble and I believe he even had a jump pass in his arsenal. If memory serves, Gannon also had a very good running game (Terry Allen, Scotty Graham) to lean on.

Fred says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 12:15 pm

Will Tarvaris Jackson be “the man” this year?

What is it with Minnesota media?

Why do they alway’s fall in love with no talent QB’s?

Is it a race deal?

He sucks, and he will never develop.

MC Creme Fraiche says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 12:31 pm

I think he will throw for 2847 yards, 19 TDs with 8 INTs and QB rating of 89%.

Sassbottom says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 12:33 pm

Will T-Jack be “The Man” this season?

The answer is “maybe.”

End of debate.

NEXT!

Joker says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 12:38 pm

“Today’s link probably lost in space, but hey, here’s Devo and McDonald’s in the news!”

Here is another well known 80’s head Ornament. Why didn’t McDonalds go this way?

Clarence Swamptown says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 12:46 pm

“sometimes it means tucking it under and running”

That’s not always as easy as it sounds.

AZGopherGirl says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 12:58 pm

Can all of us here in RandBallyWood make a pact to ban the use of “T-Jack”? I mean, really, Tarvaris is such a pretty name, no matter how you pronounce it. And “T-Jack” is SO Access Vikings.

Stu says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 1:04 pm

Clarence is funny.

Stu says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 1:13 pm

Is it a race deal?

No.

fasolamatt says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 1:19 pm

Hey, great, the evidence is in: we all spent our stimulus checks on video games!

fasolamatt says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 1:20 pm

Yes, I know, I’m a statistician: correlation does not mean causation. Shut up.

Joker says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 1:32 pm

“Hey, great, the evidence is in: we all spent our stimulus checks on video games!”

The point of the checks was to stimulate the American Economy. The only things that are still made in America that you can get for $600 or less are Cigarettes, certain hard liquors, and Beer (Not Miller…they are owned by a company in South Africa). Do not worry United States Government…I’ll take care of it.

AZGopherGirl says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 1:36 pm

Joker - don’t forget your everlasting support of American-made porn.

Toonces51 says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 1:45 pm

Personally, I don’t think that the key to the team making the playoffs this season is Tarvaris. He’s important, no doubt–but I think the person that is most important to step up his game is Brad Childress.

His rookie year, he had his head rammed so far up his own @ss it wasn’t even funny–even I wanted to see us fire him, and I firmly believe that a guy needs three years to prove himself.

Last year, he was marginally better–but it still took him WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too long to adjust to teams putting 8-9 guys in the box to stop Purple Jesus. It shouldn’t have taken two and a half games for him to realize that we had to split out 3 or even 4 WR–even if T-Jack had trouble throwing deep, and Williamson couldn’t catch, to free up some space.

If Childress can adapt more quickly, keep the offense fresh so AP gets some room to operate, and not overthink himself, T-Jack doesn’t have to make the leap all the way to superstar for them to do well.

Now, to win the Super Bowl…yeah, he probably needs to make that leap.

Joker says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 2:34 pm

AZ

I’m more of an Asian Porn kind of person. It looks like they’re “Turning Japanese” but they’re not because they already are…but wait…

The Hootie says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 2:54 pm

New debate:

Will there be another Randball post today?

Stu says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 2:59 pm

Maybe he went to the game?

MR says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 3:06 pm

Maybe he left on vacation already.

Joker says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 3:07 pm

Maybe get got fired for all of my comments

muxhut says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 3:18 pm

Joker, when referring to Rand as an unwanted offspring of questionable/right-winged parentage, you spell it “git”. It’s also common to throw an article in there. Like “the”.

Corrected: Maybe the git got fired for all of my comments.

No need to thank me. No one ever does.

Dave MN says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 3:19 pm

Maybe he’s getting his pug ready for the 4:15 showing of Kit Kittredge: An American Girl at the Hastings Theatre

Joker says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 3:22 pm

“No need to thank me. No one ever does.”

As shown in this case…

Dave MN says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 3:26 pm

Surprise!

Warning: Link goes to ACCESS VIKINGS, do not scroll beyond the end of the post!

jama says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 3:32 pm

Well I just got back from the Twins game and wow did the Tigers lineup absolutely suck today. I’m suprised they didn’t ask the Twins if they could borrow a player or two to make the teams even.

lattewarrior says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 4:08 pm

Somewhere in New Jersey, Peter King is celebrating the rebirth of his career. Will Favre change his number to 45?

Stu says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 4:09 pm

RE: Favre. It’s just so weird that this news broke before everyone left for the 4th and nobody would be paying attention to ESPN.

Oh, did I say weird? I meant to say GO THE [REDACTED] AWAY ALREADY. GO.

Dave MN says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 4:11 pm

RE: Favre. It’s just so weird that this news broke before everyone left for the 4th and nobody would be paying attention to ESPN.

Is anyone going to call him out for being an attention-starved phony after that cry-fest he put on a couple months ago? Does this mean we have to watch another one of those next year? And the year after that?

Stu says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 4:20 pm

I suppose it’s fair to note that Chris Mortensen may just be wrong again.

Rand's Mom says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 4:23 pm

Michael

Come out of the basement, it’s time to get some more work done. You only have one post today and it’s already 4:20. Put the D&D cards away and get it done!

Stu says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 4:24 pm

WHERE IS RAND? THE ODDS:

Sensitivity Training: 3-1
All-Day Meeting About Focusing on Core Competencies and Shifting Paradigms in the New Media Platforms of Tomorrow: 2-1
Sonic Run Gone Horribly Wrong: 7-2
Caddy Day at Sid’s Swimming Pool: 9-1
Minot, North Dakota: 20-1
The Field: 15-1

The Hootie says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 4:25 pm

Favre reportedly spent the early off-season golfing with Roger Clemens.

The Hootie says:

July 2nd, 2008 at 5:19 pm

Psh, Mrs. Rand- D&D doesn’t use cards! Gosh! Everyone knows that.

Rand has been devouring the 4th Edition DMG, I’m sure.

Dave MN says:

July 3rd, 2008 at 8:26 am

Hootie: Please tell me that you don’t own a die with more than six sides…

The Hootie says:

July 3rd, 2008 at 8:36 am

Erm no… Not at all. I uh, didn’t even know that they made dice with say 4, 8, 10, or 20 sides. Nope, no clue that such ridiculous things even existed.

/whistles nonchalantly