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They Were Who We Thought They Were; Or Were They?

Posted on July 7th, 2008 – 11:32 AM
By Michael Rand

Just a reminder to regular RandBall readers that we are on vacation the next couple of weeks and will be scaling back the posting to our customary two-per-day while we’re away. So this fine effort from Stu, the first of what should become a regular feature, will have to satiate the masses through the rest of this afternoon. Please do enjoy:

Welcome to the inaugural installment of They Were Who We Thought They Were; Or Were They? The brainchild of Brandon from Deadspin-approved blog World of B, TWWWTTWOWT’s goal is to analyze past Minnesota sporting figures to see if they were, in fact, who we thought they were. After much thoughtful analysis (read: 15 minutes of Googling and an inexhaustable supply of stale pop-culture references and cheap shots), said figures will be graded on a scale of Absolute Dennys, with a 1 being We Let ‘Em Off the Hook, and a 10 being Crown ‘Em.

Leading Off: Tom Brunansky and Tommy Herr.

Who We Think They Were: Bruno was a belov’d member of the 1987 World Champion Minnesota Twins, playing a solid right field and hitting for power. Tommy Herr was a joykilling malcontent who made baby kittens less adorable just by looking at them. Despite this, the Twins traded Brunansky for Herr in 1988, with the results being less than satisfactory.

Who They Really Were: although Brunansky tends to get overshadowed by the likes of Puckett, Hrbek and Gaetti, the only American Leaguers with more home runs between 1982 and 1987 were Dwight Evans, Eddie Murray, and Dave Winfield. The Twins replaced him in right with Randy Bush, whose 14 HRs in 1988 don’t measure up to Bruno’s 32 HRs the previous season. However, Brunansky never came that close again, either, and the Bush of 1988 was his equal in OPS+.

Meanwhile, the whole thinking behind the trade was to upgrade from Steve Lombardozzi at second base. After all, it’s not like we won a World Series with him there. Anyway, Herr was an RBI machine for the Cardinals, so on paper, this was a major upgrade at second, and the lineup had enough pop that it could withstand losing Brunansky. To borrow a cliché, that’s why they play the games. Herr provided all of one home run and 21 RBI for the Twins, was by all accounts not happy to be here, and was traded for Shane Rawley in the off-season.

The Grade: Brunansky gets 6 Dennys. By all statistical measures, the Twins traded him after he had achieved his peak value as a baseball player. Although it’s so hard to say goodbye to yesterday, the Twins probably had the right idea. (Note: Bruno’s original tally of 5 Dennys was upped one Denny due to the mustache.)

Herr gets 10 Dennys. Had he brought anything to the table, who knows what that Twins team could have done? Recall that they were 91-71 and that Frank Viola was just stupid good. I doubt that they would have matched the 104 wins put up by Oakland, but still, a little something would have been nice, you know? He really was who we thought he was. Crown his [redacted].

[Proprietor fun fact #1: Lombardozzi had exactly 38 major league at bats after leaving the Twins following the 1988 season. Proprietor fun fact #2: 1987 stalwart and current broadcaster Bert Blyleven had pretty awful numbers in 1988 as well. He’d surely like to do the whole thing over again because, well, you know. Blyleven then proceeded to go 17-5 a year later with the Angels. Go figure].

37 Responses to "They Were Who We Thought They Were; Or Were They?"

Dave MN says:

July 7th, 2008 at 11:49 am

That’s funny, an Absolut Denny just happens to be my favorite mixed drink…

Michael Rand says:

July 7th, 2008 at 11:56 am

Two shots of vodka, one shot of poor clock management?

jama says:

July 7th, 2008 at 12:00 pm

+1 Mr. Rand.

Since Rand is on vacation does he need to be granted a COW to post on his own blog?

Stu says:

July 7th, 2008 at 12:02 pm

Two shots of vodka, one shot of poor clock management?

Actually, that’s a Calcutta Clipper.

Michael Rand says:

July 7th, 2008 at 12:10 pm

This could lead to a whole different post, I think. Name a drink for a Twin Cities sports entity and describe what is in it.

Joker says:

July 7th, 2008 at 12:12 pm

“Lombardozzi had exactly 38 major league at bats after leaving the Twins following the 1988 season.”

And 5 walks…clearly pitchers were afraid of him.

fasolamatt says:

July 7th, 2008 at 12:13 pm

You could fill a whole bartender’s guide on Dennyisms alone.

Joker says:

July 7th, 2008 at 12:22 pm

“This could lead to a whole different post, I think. Name a drink for a Twin Cities sports entity and describe what is in it.”

For the Wolves, I’ll call it the Up-In-Smoke:

1 shot 151, 1 shot sour apple pucker, 1 shot motor oil. Light it on fire and watch it go up in green smoke for all the Boston fans. And if you think you can’t drink motor oil, you’ve obviously never seen this cinema masterpiece

Brandon says:

July 7th, 2008 at 12:23 pm

Nice work, Stu. Suggested next topic: Rick Fenney. Was he really the bulldozing goal-line force as I remember?

Also: Crunch, the mascot. Didn’t he get arrested a bunch of times?

Clarence Swamptown says:

July 7th, 2008 at 12:27 pm

The “1998 NFC Championship Game”: Mix Sour and Bitters.

The “Jim Marshall”: Lots and lots of Coke.

The “Love Boat”: Mix two fingers of Captain Morgan, Sex on the Beach, and a Blow {redacted} shot.

jama says:

July 7th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

You could go another way with the Absolut Denny(s Reyes).

I’d guess a 100 oz. of beer with a shot of Vodka followed by whatever you can do to subtract all fat and muscle from your lower body.

jama says:

July 7th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

Clarence

As inappropriate as those are, you got me laughing out loud. That sir gives you a +1.

Stu says:

July 7th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

Brandon, thanks again for suggesting this. And Fenney would be a nice subject, although it’s been proven that he’s a really bad hedge fund manager.

AZGopherGirl says:

July 7th, 2008 at 12:43 pm

The High Road = 2 parts Cristal, 1 part Red Bull, and 10 parts self-important arrogance

Goofer says:

July 7th, 2008 at 12:47 pm

All these comments are so original.

Ha ha ha.

You guy’s are funny!!!!!

This is a good newspaper with a large group of talented writers. I’m sure the future is bright.

fasolamatt says:

July 7th, 2008 at 12:54 pm

The Glen Mason: any rail drink mixed with generic cola, and you should be impressed that you got the drink in the first place. No chance of any premium liquor at all.

Rotoblinders says:

July 7th, 2008 at 1:07 pm

Justin Morneau = Crown Royal (canadian whiskey) on ice.

Jesse Crain = take any drink, promptly spill on floor.

Onterrio Smith = Urine

Dave MN says:

July 7th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

Fasolamatt: another drink that could be “The Glen Mason”

10 oz. Cherry Coke
5 oz. Captain Morgan Rum
5 oz. 7 Crown Canadian Whiskey

Makes you feel good for about half the night (season), but then you’ll realize there’s no defense against the hangover.

fasolamatt says:

July 7th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

Dave MN - so you could have the “regular season” Glen Mason and follow it up with the “postseason” Glen Mason. Then feel awful until spring practice.

Joker says:

July 7th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

“The “Love Boat”: Mix two fingers of Captain Morgan, Sex on the Beach, and a Blow {redacted} shot.”

You could also throw 2 Purple hooters, a fuzzy navel, and a wet [redacted] in there

Paul Peter Paulos says:

July 7th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

Mike Rand, Name a drink for a tc sport’s entity ?…for Pat Williams call it “where’s my d..k?” (as in that Borat scene)composed of three shots Wesson oil, one shot vodka. Best with a loaf of french bread soaked in garlic oil….

jama says:

July 7th, 2008 at 1:33 pm

The KG

Order 1 bottle of Cristal

Drink 2 glasses

It’s pricey, it’s good, it’s getting you close

Trade the rest of the bottle for a can of Premium and an expiring contract.

This could also be called the McTaylor.

Nathan says:

July 7th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

Goofer for COW

Stu says:

July 7th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

Goofer for Prime Minister of Awesome, although he’ll serve at the pleasure of Moose Knuckle.

jama says:

July 7th, 2008 at 1:42 pm

Does commenting on the blog make me a Strib writer?

If so I am immediately demanding a dozen donuts, a yearly subscription to Playboy (For the College Football Preview), and an 8% raise.

Paul Peter Paulos says:

July 7th, 2008 at 1:53 pm

8 % x 0 = :(

Joker says:

July 7th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

“and an 8% raise.”

Are you sure you don’t PLAY for the Bears, and not just cheer for the Bears?

jama says:

July 7th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

Joker

As of right now I am probably listed as the
Starting WR
3rd string RB
2nd string QB

So, yes, in my mind I am playing for the Bears.

Joker says:

July 7th, 2008 at 2:20 pm

“So, yes, in my mind I am playing for the Bears.”

Couldn’t get much worse I guess…

jama says:

July 7th, 2008 at 2:29 pm

…. I could be a member of the Lions!

fasolamatt says:

July 7th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

Speaking of “jama class” football players, here’s a note that ex-Viking quarterback Kelly Holcomb retired.

We’ll miss him.

Stu says:

July 7th, 2008 at 2:44 pm

Some people retire, others have retirement thrust upon them…

jama says:

July 7th, 2008 at 2:46 pm

faslo

Nice link, I especially like the comment where the guy called Pittsburgh, “Pittspuke”.

I’ll never understand why Clevelandites get such a bad rap.

P.S. I would have gone with Pukesburgh.

fasolamatt says:

July 7th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

The fervor with which Clevelanders hate Pittsburgh (or Sh*tsburgh) is many times hotter than any antipathy shown in these parts for the drunks in green and gold (wait, that’s redundant).

ramon says:

July 7th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

A “John Daly” (not a local but…)= an “Arnold Palmer” with two shots of Absolute Citron.

That’s not a joke. I’ve served them on request.

Joker says:

July 7th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

“…. I could be a member of the Lions!”

and yet the Lions finished ahead of the bears in the standings…according to ESPN.COM that is.

Joker says:

July 7th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

“In nine seasons of their expansion era, the Browns have had 10 quarterbacks who have started at least one game for them.”

Who are/were the Head Coach, QB coach, and Offensive Coordinator? Mike Ditka, Pep Hamilton, and Dave Wannstedt?