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	<title>Comments on: Monday (Manny in Minny) Edition: Wha&#8217; Happened?</title>
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		<title>By: ramon</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46677</link>
		<dc:creator>ramon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46677</guid>
		<description>"Dave: Public sentiment against Moss was pretty strong when he was traded; it was more in hindsight, when the offense stunk, that people started to regret it."

"Don’t know much about Manny, but I think your repeated implications that Moss was drummed out of town here by public opinion is way off."

Manny and Moss' legal transgressions are relatively minor to most pro athletes today. You can debate pot as criminal or Moss' traffic incident as overtly criminal - but do so in light what we're hearing these days - domestic abuse, violence, guns, steroid use... in my mind Moss and Manny are characters more than bad characters. (Although that thing with Manny and the tickets was a little overboard.)

That's just me. Moss was fun. Manny is fun. Moss was drummed out by ownership, not the fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dave: Public sentiment against Moss was pretty strong when he was traded; it was more in hindsight, when the offense stunk, that people started to regret it.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Don’t know much about Manny, but I think your repeated implications that Moss was drummed out of town here by public opinion is way off.&#8221;</p>
<p>Manny and Moss&#8217; legal transgressions are relatively minor to most pro athletes today. You can debate pot as criminal or Moss&#8217; traffic incident as overtly criminal - but do so in light what we&#8217;re hearing these days - domestic abuse, violence, guns, steroid use&#8230; in my mind Moss and Manny are characters more than bad characters. (Although that thing with Manny and the tickets was a little overboard.)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just me. Moss was fun. Manny is fun. Moss was drummed out by ownership, not the fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark H</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46659</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46659</guid>
		<description>Manny being Manny... favorite and least favorite, just this year.

Favorite: Boston vs. Baltimore, in Baltimore, Manny makes an over-the-shoulder catch, casually takes four more steps to scale the wall and slap hands with the only Boston fan in left field, then turns around to toss to first, completing a double play.

Least favorite, and a great example of why people hate him: Boston at Houston, hours before the game which has been sold out, Manny asks for something like 16 tickets from the traveling secretary. the old man says he doesn't think that's possible, so Manny shoves him to the ground. "Do your job!" Manny, maybe you should do yours and quit faking injuries. that's why Boston doesn't want you, and probably why (aside from Pohlad's lifelong addiction to being cheap) Minnesota's "significant upgrade" will include Latroy Hawkins instead of you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manny being Manny&#8230; favorite and least favorite, just this year.</p>
<p>Favorite: Boston vs. Baltimore, in Baltimore, Manny makes an over-the-shoulder catch, casually takes four more steps to scale the wall and slap hands with the only Boston fan in left field, then turns around to toss to first, completing a double play.</p>
<p>Least favorite, and a great example of why people hate him: Boston at Houston, hours before the game which has been sold out, Manny asks for something like 16 tickets from the traveling secretary. the old man says he doesn&#8217;t think that&#8217;s possible, so Manny shoves him to the ground. &#8220;Do your job!&#8221; Manny, maybe you should do yours and quit faking injuries. that&#8217;s why Boston doesn&#8217;t want you, and probably why (aside from Pohlad&#8217;s lifelong addiction to being cheap) Minnesota&#8217;s &#8220;significant upgrade&#8221; will include Latroy Hawkins instead of you!</p>
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		<title>By: lattewarrior</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46633</link>
		<dc:creator>lattewarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46633</guid>
		<description>Fair enough. Not even the honorable mayor of Homersota would compare DY's ability to Manny's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough. Not even the honorable mayor of Homersota would compare DY&#8217;s ability to Manny&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: newbie</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46632</link>
		<dc:creator>newbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46632</guid>
		<description>I said Manny-type, not Manny-esque.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said Manny-type, not Manny-esque.</p>
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		<title>By: lattewarrior</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46630</link>
		<dc:creator>lattewarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46630</guid>
		<description>As someone who doesn't have a vested interest in the Red Sox, I find Manny to be irresistably charming. Like Heath Ledger's Joker, only slightly less homicidal.
Comparing Manny to DY is a bit of a joke. DY may have an average approaching .300 but he's clearly not a power hitter and he plays worse defense than Manny, which is a pretty impressive feat. And there's no way he has a grill as nice as Man-Ram's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who doesn&#8217;t have a vested interest in the Red Sox, I find Manny to be irresistably charming. Like Heath Ledger&#8217;s Joker, only slightly less homicidal.<br />
Comparing Manny to DY is a bit of a joke. DY may have an average approaching .300 but he&#8217;s clearly not a power hitter and he plays worse defense than Manny, which is a pretty impressive feat. And there&#8217;s no way he has a grill as nice as Man-Ram&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: newbie</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46628</link>
		<dc:creator>newbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46628</guid>
		<description>jama makes a good point.  We already have a Manny-type player in Young.  The Twins made a great move to get a young guy with great potential, but a lazy attitude.  Which is more than they have done in the past.  Now THEY need to learn how to deal with a player that is different than their homegrown kids.

If Cuddyer ever comes back, they should send Gomez down to spark in him what happened with Spahn.  Just because they traded Santana for him, doesn't make him irreplaceable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jama makes a good point.  We already have a Manny-type player in Young.  The Twins made a great move to get a young guy with great potential, but a lazy attitude.  Which is more than they have done in the past.  Now THEY need to learn how to deal with a player that is different than their homegrown kids.</p>
<p>If Cuddyer ever comes back, they should send Gomez down to spark in him what happened with Spahn.  Just because they traded Santana for him, doesn&#8217;t make him irreplaceable.</p>
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		<title>By: jamal</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46621</link>
		<dc:creator>jamal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46621</guid>
		<description>Young sucks in the field.  He has the worst jump of any left fielder we have.

3rd best hitter?

Check jama's papers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Young sucks in the field.  He has the worst jump of any left fielder we have.</p>
<p>3rd best hitter?</p>
<p>Check jama&#8217;s papers.</p>
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		<title>By: jama</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46620</link>
		<dc:creator>jama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46620</guid>
		<description>Perfect example of Twins Fans

They love Carlos Gomez and his .295 OBP but constantly complain about Delmon Young and his .295 BA.* Gomez should be playing in AAA while Young has probably been the 3rd best hitter over the whole season yet Young is treated like the Ugly Step sister.

* I am assuming they are complaining about his lack of power. If you want to complain about Young direct it towards his acting. He is horrible in his Twins commericial and in game advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect example of Twins Fans</p>
<p>They love Carlos Gomez and his .295 OBP but constantly complain about Delmon Young and his .295 BA.* Gomez should be playing in AAA while Young has probably been the 3rd best hitter over the whole season yet Young is treated like the Ugly Step sister.</p>
<p>* I am assuming they are complaining about his lack of power. If you want to complain about Young direct it towards his acting. He is horrible in his Twins commericial and in game advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: newbie</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46619</link>
		<dc:creator>newbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46619</guid>
		<description>The problem isn't would I like to see Manny play here, I would.  I just don't think Manny would play here.  If he's complaining about a team that has won two World Series and possibly a third, in the great city of Boston with it's tea and it's KG's and whatnot.  I'm not sure he'd enjoy it here what with our Nick Punto's and such.  
The Mannyisms would get worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem isn&#8217;t would I like to see Manny play here, I would.  I just don&#8217;t think Manny would play here.  If he&#8217;s complaining about a team that has won two World Series and possibly a third, in the great city of Boston with it&#8217;s tea and it&#8217;s KG&#8217;s and whatnot.  I&#8217;m not sure he&#8217;d enjoy it here what with our Nick Punto&#8217;s and such.<br />
The Mannyisms would get worse.</p>
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		<title>By: jama</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46618</link>
		<dc:creator>jama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/randball/2008/07/28/monday-manny-in-minny-edition-wha-happened/#comment-46618</guid>
		<description>Who would you rather have on the Twins, Manny or Torii? 

I think most MN fans would welcome Torii back before cheering for Manny. This type of thinking is why a guy like McHale has never been forced out and why the Wild operate the way they do. Twin Cities fans would rather cheer for a good guy that plays hard and loses than a questionable character that is more talented and wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who would you rather have on the Twins, Manny or Torii? </p>
<p>I think most MN fans would welcome Torii back before cheering for Manny. This type of thinking is why a guy like McHale has never been forced out and why the Wild operate the way they do. Twin Cities fans would rather cheer for a good guy that plays hard and loses than a questionable character that is more talented and wins.</p>
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