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RandBall Q&A: Chuck Klosterman

Posted on September 24th, 2008 – 11:45 AM
By Michael Rand

chuck.JPGChuck Klosterman is a native son. And by that, we mean a North Dakotan. He graduated from the University of North Dakota in Grand Forks (where our dad teaches) in 1994, which is the same year we graduated from Grand Forks Central High. He has worked at various publications as a pop culture and music writer, but he is perhaps better known for his books. The first was called “Fargo Rock City,” and it was so true that it hurt. The fifth was just released and is his first novel. It is called “Downtown Owl.” Klosterman will be reading from said book on Thursday, Oct. 2 (that’s one week from tomorrow) at the Triple Rock. The web site indicates the night will be “full of awesomeness,” and we tend to agree. Recently, Chuck was kind enough to answer exactly eight of our questions. Here we go:

RandBall: I have intentionally avoided, up to this point, finding out any information about your new book, a novel. I can only assume it is an extension of the story you gave us all a taste of at the end of IV, yes? [Note: We were not serious].

Chuck Klosterman: Actually, the story from “IV” and this book have no relationship whatsoever. Which is probably good, because that story kind of sucked. “Downtown Owl” is about tax evasion, alcoholism, statutory rape, Tommy Kramer, and wind.

RB: What the hell happened to the USC-era Reggie Bush?

CK: I think we (or at least “I”) overlooked how much of Bush’s collegiate success was built around the fact that he could essentially run away from every outside linebacker he ever faced, which simply does not happen in the NFL. He can’t get into space. However, he will still have a nice career. He will be better that Preston Pearson and possibly as good as Joe Washington or Bobby Mitchell, which (in theory) would make him a borderline Hall of Famer. But he can’t blow people away, and — somehow — that always feels disappointing. He was absolutely the best collegiate running back I ever saw.

RB: A lot of people have strong feelings about whether MLB starters should be held to strict pitch counts. What are your thoughts, and is it surprising that so many people care passionately about a seemingly mundane topic?

CK: I feel like this argument is a manifestation of that night the Sox left Pedro in against the Yankees during the 2003 ALCS. People can’t get over that. I think Babe Ruth pitchers should be held to strict pitch counts — beyond that, everything is situation. It’s a man’s game.

RB: Your beard: best for closing ballgames for World Series Twins teams, making a deep NHL playoff run, or something else completely?

CK: My splitter could terminate a few dudes in the bottom of the ninth. My beard is a nice length for that kind of action. However, that’s only because I recently received a trimmer. Last summer, my beard was more suited for the logging industry, playing lap steel on “Layla,” or seducing a female Sasquatch.

RB: Creating clever fantasy football team names has replaced creating clever band names as an idle past-time for 20-something males. Discuss.

CK: No idea. I don’t understand the question. But here’s my new plan: I want to start a band that only plays cover versions of songs that tell narrative stories about how the group itself started, such as Boston’s “Rock and Roll Band,” Bryan Adams’ “Summer of ‘69,” and that one good single by Art Brut. However, we could only play one gig.

RB: Kevin Love or O.J. Mayo?

CK: This is actually pretty close. I think Love has the potential to be better, but only if he’s the third option on a very good team (and that will never happen in Minnesota). Mayo is more complex. He’ll either be awesome or useless. There is something strange about his attitude; he seems detached in a way I cannot define. He might end up being a version of Vernon Maxwell who passes well, or a [redacted] sociopath.

RB: A Cambridge University “personality map of America” found that New York is where the least friendly people live, while North Dakota has the nicest people. Where, um, does that leave you?

CK: Drunk.

RB: You’re doing your reading at the Triple Rock, which is awesome. But: That’s the same venue where on June 8, 2003, I saw the very last Lifter Puller show after they reunited for a three-night stand. I bought a T-shirt to commemorate the event, and then it was stolen from a laundromat about 6 months later. Will you be taking any measures to ensure merchandise purchased at your reading will not be eventually stolen by neer-do-wells?

CK: Yes. Every person who comes to the event will be given a complimentary AK-47 assault rifle. Please bring your ID.

51 Responses to "RandBall Q&A: Chuck Klosterman"

Jon says:

September 24th, 2008 at 11:48 am

Rand has now interviewed both Craig Finn and Chuck Klosterman.

Ten bucks says he quits the paper later today, in order to “go out on top.”

jama says:

September 24th, 2008 at 11:53 am

Don’t forget Erin Andrews. Twice.

fasolamatt says:

September 24th, 2008 at 11:57 am

and Lisa Guerrero. Twice.

jama says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:01 pm

-Thanks to Stu

Dave MN says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:01 pm

Will you be taking any measures to ensure merchandise purchased at your reading will not be eventually stolen by neer-do-wells?

CK: Yes. Every person who comes to the event will be given a complimentary AK-47 assault rifle. Please bring your ID.

The gun will be of no use against ragamuffins, tatterdemalions, hooligans, hoodlums, or toughs.

StraightCashHomey says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:02 pm

And he sat in on a conference call with Kevin Love.

Paul Peter Paulos says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

The story lines and the plot twisting all around from “tax evasion, alcoholism, statutory rape, Tommy Kramer, and wind ” are beyond the range of this measly box, but will ammo be given with that AK-47 ? I understand a bunch of hopping mad hockey moms have bought up all of it in town…

Michael Rand says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:17 pm

prob not a good idea, jama

Clarence Swamptown says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:23 pm

Dear North Dakota-

Nice try. Mr. Klosterman was born here, and is therefore “one of us”. This rule was ennacted in 1946 - consequently Ralph Engelstad remains a North Dakotan.

Cordially,

Minnesota

Joker says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:24 pm

I don’t think I can/will live in a world where P3 has access to an AK-47.

jama says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:26 pm

Rand

I apologize, didn’t think it throught I guess.

jama says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:28 pm

I have actually never read any of Mr. Klosterman’s books. Which one should I start with? Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs: A Low Culture Manifesto?

MR says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

I really enjoyed Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs, but it also taught me that I enjoy Klosterman only in moderation.

Therefore, I haven’t read any of his other books and really prefer his long-form articles and essays in various magazines.

Joker says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

Now I’m confused. Did you interview some guy I’ve never heard of (more than likely because I’ve never read an entire book before) or Richard Dreyfuss
for this article?

Michael Rand says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

jama — Sex, Drugs and Cocoa Puffs is a very good starting point and probably the one that is most enjoyable to a mass audience.

Paul Peter Paulos says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

Joker…Do not fret, my cowardly friend. You mean less than nothing to me.

Mr.Shoes says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:36 pm

Dear Minnesota,

We’re still not giving up Roger Maris. Huh? Born in Hibbing? Dangit. OK then, Phil Jackson. Born in MT? Crap. Darin Erstad and Travis Hafner! Still orus? Cool.

Wait. [redacted]

Thanks a lot,

North Dakota

Joker says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:36 pm

“Do not fret, my cowardly friend. You mean less than nothing to me.”

I don’t know if I should be happy for P3 telling me he’s not going to shoot me, or sad for him refering to me as “friend”.

Brandon says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:36 pm

If it weren’t for my Thursday night bowling league, I’d've suggested the 10/2 reading as an ideal spot for the Redactular t-shirt distribution. As such, it’s a terrible idea.

I’m still trying to figure out what exactly jama did wrong. I’m slow today, I guess.

Michael Rand says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:49 pm

I’m thinking 10-6 MNF game (vikes vs. saints) as our redactular t-shirt distribution site. any thoughts?

Stu says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

that one good single by Art Brut

That would be Formed A Band, Charles. And it was great, not good.

newbie says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

Recently, Chuck was kind enough to answer exactly eight of our questions.

Did he set that limit? If so, was that before or after he read your line of questions for an Author?

Also, I have never been to the Triple Rock, and I do not see a list of beers on their website… Dave, Stu?

Dave MN says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:51 pm

I think Dr. Z’s been dropping acid. His thoughts on why he put the Vikings at 18 in his power poll:

“Minnesota Vikings (1-2)
They beat Carolina by 10 and looka here, seven places lower. Is this fair? Is this just? Now you look! Indy beat the Vikes. Chicago beat Indy. Carolina beat Chicago. In the old days I’d solve this ring around the rosie by setting up ties in the standings, but copouts are not favored by the new administration, which comes armed with cuffs and billy clubs.”

Okay, I was with you until, “in the old days”, then what the hell happened?

Stu says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

Newbie: the one time I was there, they had an excellent beer selection.

Dave MN says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:54 pm

Also, I have never been to the Triple Rock, and I do not see a list of beers on their website… Dave, Stu?

I’ve been there once or twice, and I actually don’t recall their beers. I think they rotate a few taps, though. Giving it some variety.

Apparently, they have Surly on tap. And Tuesdays offer 2 for 1…

fasolamatt says:

September 24th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

/off-topic
Fasola singing convention is this weekend.

Joker says:

September 24th, 2008 at 1:11 pm

“I’m thinking 10-6 MNF game (vikes vs. saints) as our redactular t-shirt distribution site. any thoughts?”

Are you buying the tickets?

Paul Peter Paulos says:

September 24th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

Joker..both your suppositions are correct, but you are under Double Strict probation on both counts at this moment, so I expect at least one “Go Green Bay” from you in the near future. (You may, of course, quickly withdraw this false effort, since I will still consider your presentation as a balance to my Good Will not Hunting)

Ty Webb says:

September 24th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

Talk about bad timing. I would be attending the Klosterman reading next week except that it is on the same night that My Morning Jacket finally returns to the Twin Cities. Klosterman would have never scheduled the reading for this night if he knew Jim James and the boys would be playing downtown.

As for the Klosterman books, if you like Hair Metal, start with Fargo Rock City. If not, go with Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs first. As for the new book, Downtown Owl, I am about 6 chapters into the book and it is brilliant. Topics covered in the first few chapters: A guy who owned bars with Tommy Kramer, flunking out of St. Cloud State, and high school football coaches who hate The Price is Right. Great book.

Anyone else heading to MMJ next week?

Brandon says:

September 24th, 2008 at 1:23 pm

10/6 works for me.

jama says:

September 24th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

Completely off topic and very premature

Who’s more valuable to the Twins Mauer or Morneau? Posnanski isn’t sure either.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/joe_posnanski/09/24/posnanski.almvp/index.html?eref=T1

Joker says:

September 24th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

P3

First off it’s Double SECRET probation.

Second of…what?

Michael Rand says:

September 24th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

Joker: I was thinking we could go somewhere and watch the game other than the metrodome. Maybe like we did that one time at The Park Tavern (free bowling!)

Ty: That’s a tossup. I think I’ll have to go to Klosterman, though I do like myself a little MMJ.

fasolamatt says:

September 24th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

If we were allowed to talk about politics, I’d point out that the Palin/Biden debate is the same night as Klosterman and MMJ.

lattewarrior says:

September 24th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

I agree with Ty Webb on the Klosterman titles. Fargo Rock City hit very close to home for me, but Sex Drugs and Cocoa Puffs is probably more accessible for non-hair metal dweebs (I use the word affectionately, as I am one). Haven’t read Downtown Owl yet but it’s in the hole on my reading list.

AZGopherGirl says:

September 24th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

I will actually be in town on the 6th, so count me in. (Only if Rand wears “the shirt”.)

Stu says:

September 24th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

The unfortunate part about going to the ACL Festival is that it pretty much cashes my concert-going chips, otherwise I’d be down for MMJ.

I shall do my best to get to the MNF game, however. Once a location is finalized, let me know, and I’ll see if Marth can pick me up in his jet.

jama says:

September 24th, 2008 at 1:40 pm

Next time you talk to Klosterman tell him if he lets himself go this is his future.

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2346489856/nm0897358

Joker says:

September 24th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

Rand

We could do that, but couldn’t you write off the tickets as a business expense?

Also, why do you need to put off the event until October? Just admit it, the shirts aren’t done yet.

I thought a better idea would be to watch Twins/Royals Saturday or Sunday if the Twins are still in contention. Unofficial Headquarters has Sierra Nevada on tap!

lattewarrior says:

September 24th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

Stu:

I hit ACL last year. Drink lots of water and bring baby wipes. Yes, baby wipes. Trust me on this.

JPF says:

September 24th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

Man with all these new groups that you young whippersnappers like, I am feeling a bit old. (note: said in an old voice like on Scooby Doo)

“And I wouldve gotten away with it if not for those meddling kids.”

That being said, I guess I am more of the Staind, Chris Cornell mode.

Stu says:

September 24th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

Latte: this is my fifth, so way ahead of you there. Gold Bond Medicated Powder is your best friend.

Paul Peter Paulos says:

September 24th, 2008 at 2:30 pm

Joker, in my book it’s always been “double strict probation” which is much more dangerous to a wimpy whining whippersnapper (W3)like you, and “Second of…. what ?” has no inherent meaning since there is ONLY DOUBLE STRICT PROBATION, W3, and nothing more. In any event, you already have your orders, so comply.

In any event you now know your duty. And avoid hiding which is the way of loudmouthed yet frightened rodents like you, since in one of your (ridiculous) wrecked- diculars I will arrive to lovingly and peacably discuss your wanton disregard of what is now so clear. Second of all ?..that is the glib language of a slick Illinois lawyer (and I too know just such of one)…

Paul Peter Paulos says:

September 24th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

Joker, I’m waiting for your heartfelt “Go Green Green Bay Cheer” Think of it this way. Even if you don’t mean it, for the first time in your life, you will be cheering for a decent team…..Ok, let’s hear it…the wrecked-dickular is coming up, and how nice it will be to meet a fellow Pack fan…

dead end alley says:

September 24th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

the T-Rock has good beer on tap, there’ll be something to satisfy most every beerdrinker’s palate. Tuesday is 2 for 1’s, and if you decide to forgo the tap route and do 2 for 1 rail drinks, watch yourself. it’s stiff, like Stand Up Frank’s stiff.

s1rweeze says:

September 24th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

I keep waiting for Chuck to announce that he’s going to write a memoir about what its like to go through life with the most overwhelmingly annoying voice in human history.

Paul Peter Paulos says:

September 24th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

Better HIDE the location or you will see how one Packer fan can scatter the Geese

Smitty says:

September 24th, 2008 at 3:52 pm

I have yet to find a bar that had no palatable beer.

UofM2010 says:

September 24th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

Better TELL the location so we can see how easy it is for inbred hicks to get picked up by the cops for disorderly

Paul Peter Paulos says:

September 24th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

Gabes is a Packer bar …so be there but beware ..since Purple is a sexually suspect color ..so walk in backwards..how not p.c. am I…ay