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TCOTD: Newbie advances the moving discussion

Posted on October 14th, 2008 – 2:42 PM
By Michael Rand

green.JPGThat’s a picture of former North Stars owner Norm Green from 1991, along with dogs Charles and Rupert. That’s a good start to what Newbie has to say:

Frankly, I don’t understand moving teams. I realize whatever owner owns the team has the “right” to sell them to make a profit and it is a business, so they can deal with it as it fits their needs. However, with any other business nobody really cares if they get sold or moved. Granted the likes of Northwest/Delta hurt some folks, and not a lot of people were happy that Anheuser-Busch was sold to a Belgian company. But they also didn’t say to their main base of support, hey we don’t need you we’ll go find someone else. Budweiser didn’t say “go drink Miller,” we’ll find new customers. They still offer the same products. Sports teams are inherent to the state/city they reside and only are really relevant to those fans at its basic nature. So, why can an owner or commissioner say “well you’ll still have Wisconsin teams, they are close?”

A lot of markets that had a franchise leave, for whatever reason, has seen the same sport return. Cleveland, Baltimore, Minnesota Hoc-key, etc… We’ll probably see basketball return to Seattle at some point. We may even see another football team in LA; heck, it may even be ours. But why then do these franchises have to leave? Obviously there is the case of cities that don’t support the team. Florida Marlins, Montreal, etc… fans just don’t show up. I get that. (I don’t get why people in Florida don’t want to go watch baseball everyday…) All that ends up happening is now the city/state has to find another owner willing to bring another franchise in, wasting lots of years and lots and lots of money.

Are we really so vain as to think that we can say “go ahead try to move the team, we don’t care.” I think we would lose a lot of our identity as a state if one of the major teams leave. Sure they underachieve now and then and can be insanely frustrating, but they are our teams and our frustrations. It brings us together to talk about how stupid the head coach is and how we can’t trust the bullpen. And if that went away, all we could do is read about who TO is yelling at and how large Kellen Winslow’s … things are.

So Randballers, is there a way that we can fix this or stop this kind of action? Short of a city buying a team, which would just be silly. Or do people just not care anymore and have to see championships or it’s good riddance?

(I am speaking in terms of the general sports fan not just a Minnesota fan.)

18 Responses to "TCOTD: Newbie advances the moving discussion"

Jon says:

October 14th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

NORM GREEN SUCKS!

jama says:

October 14th, 2008 at 2:51 pm

What does he suck? Toes? His thumb? [REDACTED]?

muxhut says:

October 14th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

Building on Jon’s point, if we were to maim/eviscerate owners who moved teams, would this not discourage other owners?

Stu says:

October 14th, 2008 at 2:56 pm

Speaking of Seattle basketball

I understand that there are many things about the New Great Depression that I’m not going to like (the homelessness, the constant hunger, the selling my wife for a good shovel and a pail of tallow), but seeing SOBs like that get wiped out will help waiting in the bread line go a little quicker.

Stu says:

October 14th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

NORM GREEN SUCKS!

For those playing the home game, this chant needs to be alternated with “SECORD SUCKS” for optimum nostalgia.

Dave MN says:

October 14th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

Sure they‘ve underachieved now, and then

Fixed

jama says:

October 14th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

If Owners didn’t move teams would their be a MN Twins?

newbie says:

October 14th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

SHUT-UP jama - That’s why.

Plus, Washington did eventually get a team back.

The Hootie says:

October 14th, 2008 at 3:13 pm

Off Topic:

Pacman taking another break: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081014/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_nfl_jones_suspended_2

/Off-Topic

Dave MN says:

October 14th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

SHUT-UP jama - That’s why.

Why hadn’t I thought to use that argument before? It’s airtight.

Adam Jones says:

October 14th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

It’s Adam, it is no longer Pacman, I have cleaned up my… ah who am I kidding. I’ll be at Hooters.

jama says:

October 14th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

Is Larry Johnson going to get suspended for alllegedly hitting a female in the face? I doubt it.

FREE PACMAN!!!

Joker says:

October 14th, 2008 at 3:25 pm

The Oklahoma City Thunder. Not to be confused with the thriving soccer franchise Minnesota Stunder.

Joker says:

October 14th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

The Oklahoma City Thunder. Not to be confused with the thriving soccer franchise Minnesota Thunder.

Jon says:

October 14th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

The Oklahoma City Thunder. Not to be confused with the thriving soccer franchise Minnesota Thunder.

(Sorry. I just wanted to belong.)

Dave MN says:

October 14th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

Minnesota Stunder.

That’s what you get when you let drunks pick the team name.

Merx says:

October 14th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

I know it has already been said but it can never be said enough, NORM GREEN SUCKS!

I would like to add that even Atlanta lost a hockey team and now has another. Why would you put a hockey team in Atlanta to begin with , let alone a second time?

UofM2010 says:

October 14th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

But who doesn’t love free stuff? Hell, if I was a billionaire owner of a sports franchise and some city decided to hand me a state-of-the art building for my team to play in, I’d ask where I could sign and how fast the trucks could leave Baltimore during the middle of the night.