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	<title>Comments on: Take me out with the crowd: Trains, buses pack riders in</title>
	<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/08/25/take-me-out-with-the-crowd-trains-buses-pack-em-in/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/08/25/take-me-out-with-the-crowd-trains-buses-pack-em-in/#comment-15191</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;"The economics of public transit can be counterintuitive."&lt;/i&gt;

Not really.  Whenever you set prices below marginal cost, you will always run deficits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;The economics of public transit can be counterintuitive.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Not really.  Whenever you set prices below marginal cost, you will always run deficits.</p>
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		<title>By: Froggie</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/08/25/take-me-out-with-the-crowd-trains-buses-pack-em-in/#comment-15117</link>
		<dc:creator>Froggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yes, maudio, that's exactly what I was thinkig of as far as subway lines...under Nicollet and under 6th St.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yes, maudio, that&#8217;s exactly what I was thinkig of as far as subway lines&#8230;under Nicollet and under 6th St.</p>
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		<title>By: Froggie</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/08/25/take-me-out-with-the-crowd-trains-buses-pack-em-in/#comment-15116</link>
		<dc:creator>Froggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/08/25/take-me-out-with-the-crowd-trains-buses-pack-em-in/#comment-15116</guid>
		<description>There's a number of reasons why...the Governor is only a small part of the equation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a number of reasons why&#8230;the Governor is only a small part of the equation.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/08/25/take-me-out-with-the-crowd-trains-buses-pack-em-in/#comment-15115</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask Pawlenty why there isn't more mass transit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask Pawlenty why there isn&#8217;t more mass transit.</p>
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		<title>By: barryS</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/08/25/take-me-out-with-the-crowd-trains-buses-pack-em-in/#comment-15114</link>
		<dc:creator>barryS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/08/25/take-me-out-with-the-crowd-trains-buses-pack-em-in/#comment-15114</guid>
		<description>Will the Central Corridor go 3-car from the start then, given that the DT platforms are almost all 3-car ready?  

I'm surprised that the WH District - Hennepin stop is 3-car ready. Everytime I look at it with 2 cars, I try to imagine it with 3 and it always seems like it would stick out about 8' into 1st Ave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will the Central Corridor go 3-car from the start then, given that the DT platforms are almost all 3-car ready?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised that the WH District - Hennepin stop is 3-car ready. Everytime I look at it with 2 cars, I try to imagine it with 3 and it always seems like it would stick out about 8&#8242; into 1st Ave.</p>
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		<title>By: maudio</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/08/25/take-me-out-with-the-crowd-trains-buses-pack-em-in/#comment-15112</link>
		<dc:creator>maudio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although the modifications needed to make the Gov. Ctr. station 3-car ready would be *minimal* -- very very minimal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although the modifications needed to make the Gov. Ctr. station 3-car ready would be *minimal* &#8212; very very minimal.</p>
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		<title>By: Roadguy</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/08/25/take-me-out-with-the-crowd-trains-buses-pack-em-in/#comment-15111</link>
		<dc:creator>Roadguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/08/25/take-me-out-with-the-crowd-trains-buses-pack-em-in/#comment-15111</guid>
		<description>Point of clarification: All downtown stations are 3-car ready except for Government Plaza (I learned this while covering Central Corridor meetings).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point of clarification: All downtown stations are 3-car ready except for Government Plaza (I learned this while covering Central Corridor meetings).</p>
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		<title>By: bsimon</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/08/25/take-me-out-with-the-crowd-trains-buses-pack-em-in/#comment-15110</link>
		<dc:creator>bsimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/08/25/take-me-out-with-the-crowd-trains-buses-pack-em-in/#comment-15110</guid>
		<description>"How many stations are currently not 3-car-length platforms?"

Good question.  I think most of the stations along Hiawatha are not 3-car ready.  The MOA, Lindbergh terminal &#38; downtown stations are full-size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How many stations are currently not 3-car-length platforms?&#8221;</p>
<p>Good question.  I think most of the stations along Hiawatha are not 3-car ready.  The MOA, Lindbergh terminal &amp; downtown stations are full-size.</p>
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		<title>By: maudio</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/08/25/take-me-out-with-the-crowd-trains-buses-pack-em-in/#comment-15109</link>
		<dc:creator>maudio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many stations are currently not 3-car-length platforms?

It looks like Minneapolis/Hennepin County thinks that there will be two lines, continuous Southwest-Hiawatha and Bottineau-Central.

At some point, there should be consideration for a subway tunnel downtown with concourses spanning multiple blocks and direct connections to many buildings.

Ideally, there could be an E-W subway under 6th Street and a N-S subway under the Mall. I'm pretty sure this is similar to the ideas Froggie has on his site.

There's obviously demand for additional transit -- let's do it right so the momentum keeps growing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many stations are currently not 3-car-length platforms?</p>
<p>It looks like Minneapolis/Hennepin County thinks that there will be two lines, continuous Southwest-Hiawatha and Bottineau-Central.</p>
<p>At some point, there should be consideration for a subway tunnel downtown with concourses spanning multiple blocks and direct connections to many buildings.</p>
<p>Ideally, there could be an E-W subway under 6th Street and a N-S subway under the Mall. I&#8217;m pretty sure this is similar to the ideas Froggie has on his site.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s obviously demand for additional transit &#8212; let&#8217;s do it right so the momentum keeps growing.</p>
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		<title>By: bsimon</title>
		<link>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/08/25/take-me-out-with-the-crowd-trains-buses-pack-em-in/#comment-15108</link>
		<dc:creator>bsimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/roadguy/2008/08/25/take-me-out-with-the-crowd-trains-buses-pack-em-in/#comment-15108</guid>
		<description>"And doesn’t Metro Transit plan for the postgame crowds?"

There's only so much they can do, given the lead time to buy additional cars; the number of cars they own now, etc.  I did notice that they are already talking about expanding stations in order to accomodate 3-car trains - the nokomis east website has some info on the plans for the 50th street station.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And doesn’t Metro Transit plan for the postgame crowds?&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s only so much they can do, given the lead time to buy additional cars; the number of cars they own now, etc.  I did notice that they are already talking about expanding stations in order to accomodate 3-car trains - the nokomis east website has some info on the plans for the 50th street station.</p>
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