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By: mike wants wins

mike wants wins — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:54:56 +0000

RBI are not a good measure. Check his OPS and VORP and other measures. RBI are dependent much more on how many times he comes up with men at bat…

By: sane

sane — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:45:06 +0000

“Young was actually not all that great last year, statistically”

That’s the statement I disagree with.
At 21, Delmon had 93 rbi.
IMO that doesn’t fit under the category of “not all that great statistically”.
If Beltran, Rolen, Grieve” are his benchmarks for 21-yr-old rookies, IMO he had an excellent 21-yr-old rookie season.
Young was certainly tradeable for Garza, who this year has a lower K/IP than Kevin Slowey.(0.7 to 0.76)

By: mike wants wins

mike wants wins — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:11:27 +0000

RBI is not a good way to judge Young. Check out his stats in AAA, and also compared to other corner OFers last year. He just wan’t that good. RoY voting is fairly arbitrary. You may recall that many RoY players utterly disappeared shortly thereafter.

I’d have preferred a guy who was in the middle of his career (they have plenty of money), or a guy that had dominated in AAA. My opposition to the trade is pretty mild, as I think Smith did the right thing, just chose a different guy than I would have. It is not a trade that can be ripped as bad, or praised as very good at this point. If they could have gotten over the personality issues, the Rays could use Young in the field, and Price would be starting….

By: Logan

Logan — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:48:27 +0000

There are a handful of 22 year olds that fit in recent history, Beltran, Rolen, Grieve, and maybe some others. If you’re strictly talking about RBIs, which seems silly.

The first 21 year old I came up with that had 93+ RBIs is, Jose Canseco with 117, hehe.

Strawberry was ROY at 21 with 74.

Rocco Baldelli had 78, but in 40 less games than D Young.

You could also make a list of 22 year old hitters who hit .280, hit 10 or so homers, walked less than 50 times while striking out over 100 times and driving in 70 or so runs and I’m sure you could come up with a long list of great players, average players, and players you never heard of.