Wild’s 3-2 trip-up in Calgary
Posted on November 13th, 2007 – 7:58 PMBy Michael Russo
From high above the Saddledome ice, good evening.
I’m about to watch warmups again from the catwalk on top of the Wild’s zone. If vertigo sets in, sorry about the fact we’ll be running a wire game story in tomorrow’s paper. And a wire story about some reporter squashing Bouchard or somebody.
Doug Risebrough is back from his European jaunt. He returned to the Twin Cities yesterday, then flew here this morning. That’s a lot of flying.
Postgame update: When the Calgary Flames one day get a new arena approved in this wonderful city, they should graciously invite the Wild up here to execute the implosion.
The Wild implode every single game it plays here. It’s always something. It’s really quite impressive, in an odd sort of way.
Tonight’s dismantling came in completely fluky fashion. Trailing 1-0 virtually the entire game, the Wild rallied in the third on a pair of Mikko Koivu goals.
But 21 seconds after Koivu gave the Wild a 2-1 lead, Jarome Iginla decided to remind the Wild that his only goal in life is to create misery in theirs.
I mean, this guy is unbelievable. Sure, it was a complete accident, but the Flames’ captain always finds a way to kick the Wild where it hurts the most (the groin).
In as fluky fashion as you can imagine, his slapper deflects off Nick Schultz, then Brent Burns and in. That’s it. That simple. Tie game. Nobody but Iginla could have pulled that off. That’s now 24 goals and 41 points Iginla’s scored against the Wild, and they seem to always be game-changing points.
Then, with the Wild looking like it’d at least get a much-earned point, Burns carelessly stepped up in his own zone in the last minute.
Daymond Langkow sent it down low to Kristian Huselius for a 2-on-1, and Beetlejuice scored with 52.5 ticks left. (Huselius was given that nickname by former Florida enforcer Paul Laus because Lauser felt Kristian’s head was too small for his body).
And how about this for irony?
Remember two years ago when I wrote that Doug Risebrough came close to trading Pascal Dupuis to Florida for Huselius.
Well, it is 200 percent true.
Risebrough balked at the very last second. It had a lot to do with the fact that the trade offer got out there and he wasn’t happy it did.
Ironically, it was Panthers GM Mike Keenan who so badly wanted to get rid of Huselius because he disliked him wholeheartedly in Florida. Trust me, the power struggle on that one between Iron Mike and Rick Dudley created a lot of trouble for yours truly — the middle man.
Well, Keenan is now the Flames’ coach, and he sure likes him now. He’s got 16 points for him. Of course, Huselius is a much different, much more mature player.
The only other big news of the game was veteran Keith Carney played 3 minutes, 25 seconds. He didn’t see one second of ice time after he came out of the penalty box for a first-period hook on Stephane Yelle.
Petteri Nummelin spent the rest of the night back on defense — except on the power play where he played the half boards to set up Koivu’s second goal.
Talk to you from Edmonton. Should be loads of fun.
191 Responses to "Wild’s 3-2 trip-up in Calgary"
red looks good on her but poor choice of color in calgary
Don’t lean over the edge Russo and the vertigo shouldn’t be to bad. Try not to hit any of the players if you fall, I’m sure if you scream loud enough they’ll have time to get out of your way.
I have to admit I’ve never seen Marney in that tight a top and she does look not too bad…
see, i ain’t so crazy
i do question the choice of top at hardings loft. hair was fab.
and i did as told, i went right out and bought guitar hero
I wonder if she’s as twisted as we are.
Green* just don’t betray any friends, so you can get a better partner to play with so you can reach a million points. Play guitar hero responsibly.
Yuk, green skin tone on players ….
FSN bites
LOL, Voros had a “good” fight. Please …
Ok, everybody work on your iginla jinxes.
bandgeek, i play guitar hero poorly
i did ace the pat benetar song on easy on the first try saturday.
that was before the 12 hour stay in the bathroom…
he said slumpbuster
If the wand I used for Halloween wasn’t just a carved mahogany stick I’d be throwing hexes at the Flames left and right.
The games not delayed at all so Russo must not have fallen off the cat walk.
Green* needs a laxative?
i needed a cork. flu bug this weekend
Voros almost wiped out Foy! LOL
Ahhh 12 bathroom hours because you couldn’t leave … sorry to hear that. Hopefully the worst is over.
Come on PK …
yup, back on solid food
greenhorn sure was proud he caught skoola’s delay of game
Can’t wait to see how Skoula feels about shooting the puck in the stands, more denial?
Am I the only one that thinks ‘delay of game’ like this one should be treated more like icing?
I’m torn on it Bandgeek. I can see the rersoning but it REALLY hurts when you are on the PK and just trying to clear the puck.
I see Skouba is continuing his ’stellar’ play…
i’d rather it be black and white rule. leave it up to refs judgement and you will have kaos because they rarely exercise any judgement
He did look good doing it WRT
I’ve never been fond of the delay of game because the puck cleared the glass, treat them like icing or off sides, I just don’t think it should be a 2 min penalty.
Iginla hangs out with working girls on Broadway Ave
Like you wouldn’t smuggla 
Bandgeek: the reason the penalty was
instituted in the first place was that teams were deliberately shooting the puck over the glass to get a face-off and change lines late in games or on power plays.
HoustonSTH; Does Belle look as good when he does it??
Oooohhhh, well that makes sense then. Doesn’t mean I like it but it makes more sense now.
Nope, he never looks good doing it, it’s always an accident with him.
He hasn’t done it lately though since he’s moved to forward.
The radio announcers sound bored, but maybe it’s just the team. Does it even look like they’re trying today?
Ouch …
Where was the hook on Foy at Center Ice???
Voros draws the penalty!
Wow, I can’t believe I just saw that. I think that penalty Voros just drew was teh first time we’ve ever seen a true agitator in action in a Wild uniform!
The Mr threatened to turn the TV off if I didn’t stop yelling at it. I told him if the team would play like it was on a PP then I wouldn’t need to yell at the TV.
those are flea infested working gals on broadway, the clean ones are up on lowery.
smuggla, he’s a real piece of work. He’s got a mouth on him too. Clutterbuck is textbook too though.
Skoivu?
My bad Green*, I don’t know them that well
for those with directv and the center ice package, the ducks vs kings game is being televised without announcers using rink side cameras on 652 with 653 having the traditional announcer feed. kinda cool
Recording both the wild game and Boston Legal right now but will check out the ducks vs Kings as soon as possible.
Voros was breathless over Marney 
zima?
who wouldn’t be
I’m kind of surprised the in-game access the Ducks are allowing the FSN West crew, especially during the game. GreenStar is right, tho…it’s a different view without Hayseed & Co. psycho-babbling on into the night…
That woulda been a huge goal!
I thought the first period went pretty well for our Wild. Had a few offensive chances, but we need to improve our powerplay.
I just tried voting for the NHL All-Star game, and you can’t write-in Mikko. Last year you could write in any player. This must be the after effects of the Rory fiasco from last year.
Interesting. You can write in Boogaard but not Koivu.
That’ll take some shine off of Voros but honestly what can you expect for the minutes he’s getting and the job he’s being asked to do?
Wild need two to tie it… since Iginla hasn’t scored yet.
they’re hanging in there, but someone’s gotta get the puck in the net! I think Koivu’s gonna step up. Anyone else got a pick. Kipper can’t shut us out.
What was Burns thinking!!!!
There is your Koivu goal!!!!
Who’s next netminder?
koivi again or Rolston!
Feels like a good game for Burns to score another winner.
Rolston has to get one.
I’m all for Burnsie, too!
Koivu x 2!!!!
Or nummy
Crap
There is your stinkin Iginla goal
There goes our momentum. And it was Iggy.
KOIVU!!!!!!!!!!
Nummelin is a great passer. I really hope he stays at forward.
Ah, crap.
Stupid iginla is right. Can’t we buy this guy a sushi dinner on game nights or something?
talk about being lucky geez, he must have a gigantic bowl of lucky charms before the game
Sweet. Here we go!
I wish, just once, I was wrong about my prediction that Iginla would score during a game. The man is ridiculous.
i think its about time for another Brent Burns GWG
Koivi gets the trick or Pettrri scores in the shootiut!
That’s just wrong ..
That sucks.
yuove gotta be f’n kiddin me
what horrible goal allowed by Backstrom…
Bad line change
I think Backstrom was cheating for the change
I meant pass …
horrible
Glad DR is back to see his soft team.
i feel like we outplayed them, but the flameouts got the bounces
They weren’t even soft tonight. One disgustingly lucky goal by the Wild Killer (Igninla) and one brutal gaffe by Backstrom are the difference. I would argue they matched or exceded in physical play…especially early.
dice, I actually thought they showed “touhgness” and an effort I didn’t expect tonight. They shoulda gotten it to of at least though.
also, as a former goalie, I’m sure there is no one that wants that last goal back more than Backs.
Kouivi proved again how big a stud he is becoming again tonight. That’s a positive.
I thought Sheppard looked good in thevfirst half of the game, then, not bad, but didn’t show up much in the second half.
It is no mystery, the Flames did not give the Wild room. And, the Wild were not soft.
I do not think the last goal was a Backstrom gaffe.
Anyone else think the Flames had too much space? Play the man, not the puck.
I’m not worried. Not a bad showing considering we were without the Slovakian Mafia…
I really can’t be all negative.
Marty was so-so Marty.
2 awful goals given up by Backstrom. I think Harding starts the next game.
The Wild effort was much better than I expected. I think Voros is making an impression. I wonder who will be odd man out when SRV comes back?
It’s nice that other teams can end their losing streaks against the Wild. We’re such givers.
Moore looked like he was in the game and aggressive.
It is really the first time since his game against Buffalo that he acted like he could contribute.
Koivu seemed to play a little tired. Maybe the extra minutes are taking a toll.
Really a solid effort, they should have had this one. Tying goal was just unlucky for Backs, but the winning goal was soft. He should have had it IMO. I’m liking what Voros is bringing to the table.
Agree with Varos comments, another good game from him. He seems to be doing what the Wild, and their fans, wish Boogaard could do…be physical, a presence in front of the net and good-enough with the puck.
Hmmm, Koivu played tired? As usual I loved his effort and he is easily the MVP of the Wild right now.
Maybe Voros is here to stay. If he keeps playing big, he will.
KJ, I agree that I like Backstrom to save the last goal but Iginla’s, because of two changes of direction was not soft.
What I noticed is how much ice space the Flames had, especially on the last goal.
Anybody try and vote for Koivu on the allstar website? I couldn’t find his name in the select a player list.
Maybe I’ve had a long day.
I think that the Wild got the result they deserved.
1)You can play with all the heart and effort you want but if you don’t have the offense it doesn’t matter. (although it helps when you start in the first period not the third.)
2)The line that spent the most time in the Flames zone were the rookies. Not good.
3)With the exception of Nummelin and Koivu,the offensive effort was embarrassing. Calgary absolutely put on a clinic defensively.
4)Its not the d@mn building. (Although it might be Mike Greenlay)
5)Ahhhhhh! If we’re gonna wait for the Slovaks I’m gonna develop an ulcer.
6)If Walz is done, can we please find a pure scorer so that when a crotch goes down I still have a reason to watch?
Go Wild!
And THAT is why I don’t stay to the finish of those road divisional games. The dominos that were lined up on this trip have begun to fall. The Wild have no fire in their eyes and no firepower to pull anything off.
What I find kinda annoying is that last year JL blamed Manny for the November Skid. Since he is gone, I guess it wasn’t exactly him, eh?
One more note, I have NEVER understood why the Wild didn’t get Huselius-he would have been a PERFECT fit for this team. (although we suspected that they did not because of an incident in Sweden, during the NHL lockout, where he was falsely accused of rape, but nonetheless is permanently banned from any Swedish National games)
Instead, we got Weinhandl, whose claim to fame was being the number one assist guy (he assisted PETER FORSBERG) but had done nothing in the NHL.
Why DR didn’t still go for Huselius is beyond me. We would be looking at two points and perhaps more if he was with us.
The last goal was on a bad line change by the Wild. Burns moved up in the zone and Langkow got the puck down low past him to Huselius. There was a Flame coming hard down the opposite wing and Wild players were just coming over the boards and I think Backstrom was worried about getting over in time to make the save and left his 5 hole open. That’s the way I saw it anyway.
Interesting perspective from Jim Souhan in his column this morning:
“We think of hockey players as hard-working, team-oriented athletes, and the Wild’s Wes Walz fit the description.
But if there is no other explanation for his midseason departure from the Wild than his contemplation of retirement, then he quit on his teammates. We haven’t excused other athletes for doing so; why would we excuse Walz?”
If it turns out that there is more to this story than a “career gut check”, many of us will owe Walz an apology. If not, then I agree with Souhan.
IceMan…
I didn’t think the Iginla goal was soft, I thought the first Flames goal was. Sure, Backstrom was run over but after that play he looked a lot like a former Wild goaltender - being all upset and not FOCUSING ON THE PLAY.
Has anyone (besides me) written to the Wild to complain about Dumb (Terharrdy-har-har) and Dumber (Greenload)? This is supposed to be the model franchise in the NHL and we have to listen to that? Sorry Green*…not even Marney Gellner can save these sorry telecasts.
I’ll take Frankie M. and his ’shooting asprin tablets’ call anyday.
i’m with ya kj. when i can watch another feed i do but jump back for the intermission interview.
People hated goldberg’s style and couldn’t wait for him to not return. these two clowns are about 10 magnitudes worse but I am not reading as much of an uproar.
this blog is somewhat funny. After last season the wild are soft. earlier yesterday someone is posting we need a scorer because we will never win with all grinders. After the game the wild are soft. Missy says we need a pure scorer, back to more finesse.
I’m going to throw this out for discussion because it doesn’t seem like this has been brought up recently.
Is JL the right coach for this team?
Dumb would be fine if he just stuck to PBP. It’s in his editorial commentary that he really shows his butt.
I actually think Dumber has been better this year. I’ve noticed he’s even throttled back on the homerificness to about 90% - which I certainly appreciate.
Thoughts on the game: are we really that slow of a team without the WonderGroin Twins?? Was there something wrong with the ice last night? We just looked slow - although it might have been disinterest.
Sorry, but that was Wild hockey, vintage 2002. Trying to get people to see that JL has loosened the reigns a bit is made so much more difficult when we play like that. I hate to admit it, but I actually fell asleep and missed the GWG - and that was the most exciting part of the whole darn game!
Did we even HAVE a fourth line last night? Horrible.
I did like Voros’ game for the most part. And I think he’s had a positive effect on Foy too. But the one glaring difference is that Voros crashes the net while Foy crashes the boards. Foy has been better of late, but do we really need a forward who is a physical perimeter player?
KJ, There has always been a few media people that are hard to take.
I always thought the combination of the original play by play Wild TV/radio crew was worse (I do not mean Tom Reid) … /Goldberg and Beutow (sp). Beutow loved to hear his own voice resonate but with no hockey insights.
Actually, the final year of the North Stars they had Ralph Strangis Junior helping Al Shaver.
My impression was that Junior Strangis seemed to spend his off duty hours dusting off Norm Greed’s shoes so maybe he is still in Dallas.
I am in the HoustonSTH camp on those goals. Harder goals to save than they appeared on TV.
Anyone have any clue as to why Carney was benched most of the game? I know he took a penalty right before that, but he’s certainly not the only defenseman to do that on this or any other team?
I didn’t get a chance to see much of the game, so I wasn’t able to watch his play.
Sawhockey, I will stay on the JL bandwagon. It is too hard on the feet to jump off all the time.
i don’t remember buetel much but at least goldberg new players names.
so, sawhockey, enlighten us as to why you think he isn’t the right coach? you wouldn’t ask the question if you didn’t think so.
I don’t see his coaching being a hinderance to the team. players have career years under him. his coaching has nothing to do with the groin issues or SRV taking a biscuit to the face or walz going MIA.
i’m sure a case can be made and I don’t have a problem with someone making it. I just find that this question comes up when the wild lose a few games.
When things aren’t going well you lose games like the one last night.
I agree with NinNY, the team looked slow. About half way through the 3rd period I realized we looked slow. Keep your feet moving, I saw way too much gliding.
Parrish, Voros and Foy looked to be skating hard.
The Wild’s defense was excellent last night (holding the Flames to ONE goal all night) - bad luck on the double deflection obviously, and you hate to say it but Backstrom totally sieved on that 3rd goal. You hate to see it be so costly but he just cracked.
The offense is the Wild’s problem. Obviously goal-scoring has always been an issue and now that the Slovakian Mafia is out, it’s glaring. Koivu obviously made his case for best player on the team last night. We need players other than Koivu, Gaby and Demo to put up points…
kj - I always liked Frank Mazzacco (sp?) and Tom Reid on the Gophers telecasts. Mazzacco is a great PBP guy.
Sawhockey - I think he is, but I worry he’ll quit for the same reason he quit in NJ. On the other hand though, I think his relationship with Reiser helps keep him going, and I don’t see him doing anything rash unless the team completely implodes. The Wild seem to have an annual November slump, and they always seem to pull themselves out.
My last word on Walz: if he is done, I say he takes Tremblay’s job, and Tremblay can go help Constantine in Houston.
Smuggla - What do you say about the Wild getting a few more Finns and set up our own Finnish Mafia? We already have Koivu, Nummelin and Backstrom.
I’m definitely on the LJ bandwagon. It will be a sad day when he goes.
The only time I’ve ever felt he was out of ideas was in the playoff series against Anaheim last season. Other than that, it always strikes me he has a plan, and if he can get the guys to be motivated enough to execute it, we’ll win most of our games.
heh heh…JL not LJ
OMG Wafer! Are you joking here? Mazzocco is the WORST play-by-play on television (except maybe Dave Mishkin in TB).
1. At least half of the time he isn’t even calling the game, but BSing with Woog (or whoever was before Woog) about topics unrelated to the game at hand.
2. I don’t care for how he calls a lot of plays. “Shot and a goal”? What is that anyway?
3. HE DOESN’T CALL THE GAME.
4. See above.
No, I do not think Frankie M. is the answer. The talent pool for hockey play-by-play certainly seems shallow in MN. This I do not understand given the passion for hockey that is so evident here.
Oh, Wafer: I forgot to mention my serious question. About Walz - do you have a reason for suggesting Walz be on the coaching staff? I don’t mean that sarcastically, I just mean have you heard talk that he would want to coach or would be good at it?
Walz certainly contributed a lot to this team as a player, but how can one tell if transitioning to a coaching position would be fruitful?
I didn’t see all of last night’s game, but from what I saw I thought the Wild played decently. Iginla’s goal was pure luck - the puck looked 6 ft wide off his stick. The winning goal seemed a little soft by Nik, although I didn’t keep the TV on long enough to see a replay.
NiNY - the parts of the game I watched I didn’t think were too boring, actually. But given who’s out of the line-up at the moment, would you really expect the Wild to be playing more open?
I agree with GreenStar and others - IMO, this team’s problems have never been JL.
When you have different players year to year (over the last 6 years), but the problems and streaks continue in the same manner as before, who’s fault is it?
Ouch Wallshot. OK, I drank a lot in college. Cut me some slack, will ya?
As for Walz being a coach, I just think he’d be a good motivating prsence, and Tremblay had that ‘incident’ with Roy in MTL that led to his trade.
Interesting tidbit about Tremblay. I don’t recall hearing about that. But hey, who’s Patrick Roy anyway??? 
p.s. I haven’t had enough coffee yet to cut anyone any slack. That doesn’t happen usually until the third cup. Sorry, Wafer.
I wonder if Walz would want to be a bench coach on a team he had just retired from?
It might make more sense to him to get some seasoning in the AHL and get away from his teammates to be more objective.
If he was gone for a couple years he would come back to at least the team with at least a third of the players replaced.
Wallshot, he left Roy in for 9 goals against Detroit. Pat was not amused, and as I recall, had asked to be pulled.
Aaron…I forgot to mention Parrish in the plus column for last night. He worked his tail off.
I understand that with the first line gone, it makes it harder on Rolston-Belanger-PMB, but does that mean we have to keep playing “Where’s Rolston”?
I have no insight as to whether this is true or not, but just play along with me…
Is Walz’s discontent team related? I.E…lack of committment - whether it be physical or psychological?
Man, PA and Dubay are brutal and quite possibly both might be as dumb as it gets when it comes to Wild Hockey. First off. PA was ripping Russo because Russo had in his column that we had a “devastating loss”. I looked all through the articles and I did not see that, and to be honest it was a “devastating loss” with no Gabby or Demitra and to have a lose a game in the Saddledome after playing well in my opinion. PA was saying that come around May when we are in the playoffs we will forget about this in a way I hope he is right but in my opinion 2 points is 2 points and when you can get 2 points in CAL-GARY is always good for this squad.
Maybe I am overreacting…
Carney deserves SOOOOOOO much more respect than he is getting. I’m sorry for the Burnsie backers out there, but Burns sucks now that he’s been let loose from Carney’s watchful eye. Carney is better than Skouba, Johnsson, Burns, and Nummelin (unless he’s at forward), yet he’s benched all the time. If you’re not gonna play him, then trade him to a team that will respect him. And I like Lemaire, but his defensive trap is obsolete. The players can’t even forecheck well because they are on their heels back pedaling to get back and play D. What good is the dump and chase when you can’t chase JACQUES. This team is getting to the point to where you can’t watch them without wanting to hit something because you know your points will never be heard.
GS, I am fine with JL and thought I would see if there is anybody out there who may feel like he has run out of ways to motivate the team to produce. Personally, I think the Wild is fortunate to have him behind the bench. It appears that most of the faithful are of the same opinion.
Wafer, I’m with you about the slump.
Where’s Mike the Moron been? Probably still sucking on his momma’s teet.
I agree with IceMan. I think it’s a little pre-mature to even consider making Wes Walz a coach. Not only is it onclear he’d be good at it, it’s unclear whether he’d even want to.
Just because Wes has been with this team since it’s inception (which isn’t even very long if you think about it) doen’t mean he’s the second coming of Christ…
Smuggla, I’ve seen Walz walking on water, so you might want to re-think that one.
In all seriousness, I agree that seasoning in Houston would be better than just going right to the big club. Maybe teach Pouliot and the rest how to work hard.
Hey guys & gals…
I’m as upset as anyone over last night’s brutal loss. BUT, take a look at the standings in the NFL and the NBA. Then reflect on the Twins season. We weren’t going to go 82-0! Cut these poor bast***ds some slack!
frozen water maybe…
wafer: did he ASK to be pulled? I don’t know whether he did or not, so I’m really just asking you. I would be surprised if he had, though, given Roy’s mental makeup.
I would have thought that Roy would have ASSUMED they would have “respected him enough” to pull him before it got to the emabarassing level of 9 goals - and that was what ticked him off more than anything - that they let him show his butt to the home crowd.
As I recall, when he got to the bench, he brushed past Mario and went over to where the owner (Gillette?) was sitting and said something (en francais, sans doute) that I always assumed amounted to “That’s the last time I play for your organization, frenchie…”
As great as Roy was - and IMO he’s the best of all time - he definitely had a well-endowed ego.
Wallshot, for info on Roy and Tremblay just google “Le Trade”.
Wafer, do you have a hard time winning faceoffs on NHL08?
I think the solution to the Wild-Calgary problem should be…..
Drumroll please…………..
Trade the Groin Brothers to the Flames for Iginla.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Demitra and Gaborik is not enough for Iginla, if I’m the Flames GM.
NiNY - I thought he had, but you may be right. There was also a lot of acrimony between the two going back to when Tremblay was a commentator on Quebec TV for the Habs, and even before he became coach.
Chris - it depends. Against some teams I win the majority, against others I can’t win one to save my life. The neat thing is that you don’t get waived out of the faceoff circle, so you can be as aggressive as you want in tight situations.
Cjay - What makes you think the Flames are that dumb? Gaborik wouldn’t survive 10 minutes under Keenan. (I’m assuming - Keenan loves tough guys who play with an edge.)
Wafer, and Chris: Which systems are you playing on? Biggest factor for winning faceoffs obviously is the FO rating of the player. I find that if my opponent is better rated on the faceoff, I win a lot more of by hooking on the draw rather than trying to win it cleanly. But… that is on PC
one must assume that JL tells players to dump and chase in order to chastise him for it. I don’t make that assumption. I think you take what they give you. when teams put 4 guys in the neutral zone, you can’t always skate thru them. what other option do you have but to dump and win the battle.
we are all well endowed, in our own minds.
NiNY - would Roy used frog instead of frenchie?
anyone a financial guru? I own a small piece of the Deere empire (DE) and today i see the announced a 2 for 1 split in form on 100% dividend. What exactly does that mean? I have been in 2 for 1 splits but i haven’t seen the 100% dividend on the end.
Wafer: the ironic thing about that whole episode was that it ended up being the catalyst that brought the Nordiques the Stanley Cup (twice, I think).
Wallshot - I’m also on PC. If I get against a tough FO opponent, then I furiously hit the draw button in an attempt to win by brute force, which often works.
I also tried to just do a full sim of the season and playoffs in Dynasty mode. I won the cup in my second year with a rooster that was heavy on former Gophers and SCS Huskies, but the salary cap has become my enemy now. I may have to cut or trade Kessel or Gaborik (my Conn Smythe winner) to make the cap.
GreenStar: Good question. Takes one to know one, I guess?? ;P
And I’m a muni bond guy, equities are not my bag, so I can’t help you there.
NiNY, I think ESPN called that the worst trade in sports in the last 30 years. Even worse than the Herschel Walker trade.
With all the negative comments flying around, keep in mind the Wild are playing on the road and without their top line(Gabby, Walz, Demo).
IMO, the boys played good enough to win last night, considering, but as the season has went so far, we’re again on the wrong end of “bad bounces”.
Just my 2 cents.
Green*, the short answer to your question I think is that if you owned X you now own 2X.
Then, maybe the shares are revalued lower. I think customarily there are splits when the stock is rising.
So, your 2:1 split should bring you a tidy sum … probably sooner but certainly later.
thanks for the help friends. I get the 2 for 1 deal. i’ve been thru more than one of those. if i have 100 shares at $160 then after the split i will have 200 shares at $80. I don’t really gain anything. i have never seen the 100% dividend though. that, to me, means they are paying a $160/share dividend. That would be nice.
i got in DE at 108 and it is currently at $150. earnings are on the 21st and i expect good things. All those farmers planting and harvesting record corn crops for ethanol money need tractors and combines.
Can you play NHL08 for PC on xbox live?
Hey Wafer - I’m hosting an online tourney for PC, and I’m looking for a couple extra guys. It’s just for fun. It’s NHL playoff style with random fantasy draft rosters. The Minnesota roster is still open.
You should join us! That invitation is extended to anyone else who is interested too. I’m looking for about 4 more players.
If you’re interested e-mail me: bwallisch AT comcast DOT com
Green*, it might mean they’re putting all their profits into dividends rather than putting some into equity.
Green*, no you can’t. They games are not even remotely similar, unfortunately.
Ooops - that e-mail addy is supposed to be comcast.net
i thought i heard that xbox live was going to start mixing pc players with 360 players. maybe that was only for halo
I don’t own nhl08…yet.
i always feel like, somebody’s watchin me. one timer. that always works.
Wallshot, thanks for the offer but I must decline for two reasons:
1 - I suck and have to play on easy difficulty if I want to have a prayer of winning.
2 - I have a three week old at home and the probability of my wife giving me the time to participate is roughly about the likelihood that Adrian Peterson straps on skates and plays for the Wild tomorrow night.
uh oh…here we go with the 80s lyrics….
Green* I think it means a 2-for-1 split in the form of a 100% stock dividend. (You typed “2 for 1 split in form on 100% dividend”)
In a 2-for-1 stock split effected in the form of a 100% stock dividend, each stockholder receives
a dividend of one share of common stock for each share of common stock he or she owns.
So, pretty much what you thought.
No problem. Let me know if you change your mind. Like I said, it’s just for fun. But if you have trouble scoring - try doing a fake shot. Fools the goalie every time. True story!
Hey Wallshot, when is the tournament happening?
GreenStar: How much cash do they have (DE)? And what’s the projection for how much they’ll have left after the split?
I did a little research (I’m a nerd, what can I say?) and I think that “2:1 split in the form of 100% dividend” means that you’re getting an additional share for every share you own - as opposed to something like half a share and half a share’s worth of value in cash for every share you own.
that what ovetchkin says on the commercial, wally.
my old tricks are failing me, i think?
houston - either way it is good for me i believe. plus i think it could run to $180 in short term.
oops…HoustonSTH beat me to it.
Fan13: I was hoping to start it up this weekend, but I’ll probably delay it if I can’t fill the last few spots.
If you e-mail me, I can give you more details. I don’t have any time table for finishing it - some people will play several games right away, and others will do it over time.
1.7 billion i think.
Shareholders of Deere & Co. (DE:Deere & Company voted on Wednesday to increase the amount of authorized shares to 1.2 billion, allowing for a two-for-one stock split. Deere currently has 220.2 million shares outstanding. The split results in a 100% stock dividend for each share owned. The dividend is payable Dec. 3 to shareholders of record as of Nov. 26.
Green*, although you now own 2X the shares the price/share will now be 1/2 so if it were $150 at the split the price/share would go to $75. It doesn’t really change your position any (Although your cost basis goes down for tax purposes) you will feel a 2x gain or loss now since you own 2x as many shares. In other words before the split if the stock went up $1 you’d see $1 x the number of shares you purchased, now you’ll see $1 x twice the number of shares you purchased. (Unfortunately the opposite is true as well)
GreenStar - Nothing runs like a Deere!
Are you flaunting this new found wealth in the hopes that Marney is reading the blog?
Souhan brought back the dead horse, so give me my stick!
Maybe Wes is contemplating retirement because he doesn’t see the same desire to win from his teammates and that’s why it’s been so hush-hush. Maybe he questioned the desire from some on the team after the Pittsburgh game and was repremanded by the coaching staff? He’s worked his arse off and played injured (I think even he sat out 1 game due to groin issues earlier this year) but sees the WonderGroin twins (thanks Chris) determining their status, like they have a medical degree from Slovakia U?
All right, time to put the stick away.
That’s why I asked about cash. Because I would think that R&D would be important to a company like DE especially considering the corn ethanol boom.
So, as a shareholder, I’d rather have them pay me in stock and keep their cash on hand to continue working on new and exciting ways to maintain their market share.
wallshot I play on ps2
and I win approx 10% of the faceoffs per game, just like the wild of old
not that R&D is NOT important to another kind of company…oh heck…I had a point lying around here somewhere and now I don’t know where it is.
This is why I stay away from the equity side of things.
i follow houston. i been thru 3 for 2 splits, 5 for 1 splits and 1 for 10 splits. i have never seen the words 100% dividend after though. was just wondering what that meant since i know what a dividend is and what a split is but have them combined and i go nutz.
if marney was reading the blog i wouldn’t need to flaunt since my charm is irresistible.
HoustonSTH: Are you in the business? And, assuming that you’re a Houston Season Ticket Holder local to Houston, do you know the value guys over at Gulf?
i allow myself a small pct of my 401k i rolled into an IRA to play in stocks. it’s fun, makes me watch CNBC which has a high percentage of attractive hosts. i’ve won and lost but haven’t been torched and have hit a couple out of the park, one being nwa before it came out of bankruptency when the rumor hit that delta was going to buy them.
Nice call on NWA.
Personally, I invest in funds and do my “betting” at the sportsbook.
But, I work for a fund company, so maybe I’m biased.
IMO, the corn ethanol boom is shortsighted, a much better alternative is hydrogen power.
I think what is throwing you is the fact you skip over the word “stock” when you see the word “dividend”. When they say 100% stock dividend they mean the split will be 100% in the form of stock. Ignore the word dividend as you normally think of a stock paying a dividend to a shareholder. The way you are seeing it described right now is the common legal description of the action in today’s lingo AFAIK.
NINY, not in that business, an in Hou and am a long time STH here. Grew up on the Bruins in the Orr years.
since the easy transfers to offshore books went down, i’ve lost the desire to bet like i used to. i had money at 6 books at the peak. now i hit the craps table every so often and work the market.
Holy crap, I thought I went to CNBC for a minute.
This was barely touched on yesterday, what makes Hull qualified to be a GM, other than his name and time served in the league? It must be that UMD education coming through for him….
HUll has compromising pictures of Hicks
Erin burnett would be a nice addition to the fox sports team, even if she doesn’t do sports.
Maybe Hull acquired the pictures from A-Rod being he doesn’t need them anymore???? Maybe it the pictures are OF Hicks and A-Rod????
either that, or he said “make me co-GM or I’ll admit that my goal was illegal in 99 and the NHL will rescind our Cup.”
FYI - the latest out of Dallas
Cogen Comes “Home” to Dallas Stars as Team President
Lites Moves To Expanded Role With Hicks Sports Marketing Group
You would think the Stars would know better after the Kevin McHale dibacle.
OT: If the league is willing to hold the teams responsible when some mush head like Avery and another mush head like Tucker act like jerks in the pre-game skate, then why won’t it hold the teams responsible when a mush head like Downie acts like a jerk during a game? I don’t get it.
Interesting thoughts on Hull the GM in The Hockey News
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/11064-Double-OT-If-I-were-Brett-Hull.html
i still don’t think downie was that bad of a deal. the other cat for philly, is a different story.
it’s a fact that if macammond doesn’t get knocked out, downie doesn’t get suspended. it played bad on TV, guy laying lifeless on the ice so the league had to do something.
I’m willing to make the same distinction between the two hits, GreenStar, but the point is: either way, isn’t a guy lying unconscious on the ice a worse image for the NHL than two guys yelling and shoving at each other before a game - especially as reconciled against the legality of fighting?
With regard to Hicks, Liverpool must not be making enough money for him.
What the JD split really means Greenstar is: everyone head for Tom Reid’s, maybe Greenstar springs for drinks all around!
Thanks for sharing
I’d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting! Look for some my links:
