Wild 2, Blue Jackets 1; Apologies to Fuller
Posted on October 25th, 2008 – 4:54 PMBy Michael Russo
In the words of Pierre-Marc Bouchard, “We found a way to make it exciting again.”
No kidding. The Wild nearly coughed up a second consecutive two-goal third-period lead tonight, but the dozen or so eyes in the video war room saw differently in Toronto.
With 11.5 seconds left, Rick Nash redirected a shot from the high slot that bounced by goalie Niklas Backstrom for what referee Steve Kozari ruled the tying goal.
Referee Dan Marouelli, Kozari and linesmen Mark Wheler and Vaughan Rody came together for a conference in the ref’s crease. They sent it to Toronto. If the 6-foot-4 Nash’s stick was above the crossbar, it should be no goal.
According to NHL Senior Executive VP Colin Campell in an email to me, the ref’s ruled good goal, but “we did not have a view that could prove it was a good goal and conclusively.”
So they overturned the decision, and the Wild skated off with a 2-1 win. Ironically, all 30 teams were in action tonight, so there were a dozen people in the video war room. Because it’s such a rare night — second time in history 30 teams were playing 15 games — the NHL allowed an NHL.com writer to blog behind-the-scenes stuff from the war room.
Here’s Mike Morreale’s blog with interesting stuff about the Wild decision.
Owen Nolan had a goal and an assist in his first game back after missing three with a leg injury. Wild PR dude Ryan Stanzel came up with a great note.
Xcel Energy Center became the 47th different arena in which the 36-year-old Nolan has scored a goal. He had been held without a goal in 12 prior games at Xcel Energy Center. He did, however, score a goal in the Met Center in Bloomington against the Minnesota North Stars on Oct. 10, 1991 - 6,225 days ago. The Wild also became the seventh team for which Nolan has scored a goal.
Mikko Koivu assisted on the goal. Koivu was just scintillating tonight. Made plays, had six shots won 16 of 26 draws. Just a horse.
Pierre-Marc Bouchard also scored a goal, and the assist came on Marek Zidlicky’s first point as a Wild. He airmailed a shot so off the mark (it deflected off the glass to Bouchard), Zidlicky was seen laughing hysterically after.
Niklas Backstrom was brilliant with 25 saves. He is 5-0-1 with a 1.98 GAA and .930 SP. He robbed Derick Brassard and Rick Nash on breakaways and is 12-0-5 with a 1.74 GAA and .941 SP in his last 17 regular-season decisions. He’s 10-0-1 in his last 11 decisions. Jacques Lemaire said Backstrom would be in the net until he complained to him he’s tired, so Josh Harding will have to sit and wait for his chance. There are back-to-back games at Dallas and home against Montreal this week, so perhaps one of those?
Columbus goalie Pascal Leclaire, who seems to get hurt every other day, left this game in the second period with a sprained ankle. He wasn’t very good tonight. He appeared to be wearing a trampoline rather than a chest protector.
He coughed up juicy rebound after juicy rebound, but the Wild just couldn’t get to the pucks early. The injury was an aggravation of an injury he suffered in preseason, coincidentally when Derek Boogaard barrelled into him. That’s according to Columbus Dispatch writer Tom Reed (not Wild broadcaster Tom Reid).
Speaking of Boogaard, he got into a humorous human bumper car contest with Jason Chimera in the second period. They just kept going after each other with hard checks on one shift.
Lemaire wasn’t happy after this one, which again proves my point from yesterday. He ain’t pleased when his team doesn’t play the way he wants it to, even if it wins (that’s an awkward-sounding sentence, but IT’S the Star Tribune’s style). And tonight, after blowing a third-period lead to Buffalo, the Wild again gave Columbus the comeback scent, and was lucky to leave with the two points.
But the Wild is 5-0-1, the only team in the West still without a regulation loss.
Lastly, I want to apologize to Wild medical trainer Don Fuller, whom I clearly jinxed today. I mentioned this morning how Jacques Lemaire was worried I put the hex on him. Lemaire was convinced he’d get nailed with a puck when I was asking questions about the dangers of being on the bench.
Well, I didn’t mention that I also asked Fuller if he had ever gotten nailed with a puck on the bench. Fuller said no.
Well, nine hours later, Fuller got hit by a puck on his head today, and he never returned, so I hope he’s doing OK.
The Wild didn’t have an injury report, I’m guessing, because Fuller was in no condition to give it. Amazinly, his assistant trainer, Travis Green took a stick to the head Thursday and got five stitches.
Marian Gaborik was placed on IR to make room for Nolan.
Scratches tonight were Colton Gillies, Erik Reitz and Tomas Mojzis.
229 Responses to "Wild 2, Blue Jackets 1; Apologies to Fuller"
Score one for Cluts and Mosey. See ya, Gabs.
From the last thread: Please, kj. Anywhere but Pittsburgh or Detroit, is Malkin a second-liner? Also, where did I say I’d trade Gaborik for the Sedins?
I was reading a story from Frei on ESPN regarding draft picks, and I had a question.
Would people rather stink for say, 5 years, and stock high draft picks before making a cup run, as Pitt did? Or, would they rather play high level hockey all season, and suck in the playoffs, like the Wild have been?
Remember, Pitt drafted Staal (06), Crosby (05), Malkin (04), Fleury (03), and Whitney (02) as top five picks. I cannot imagine the hockey was too entertaining for those 5 seasons, but they did make it to the finals this last year w/ all those guys.
So… Stink now, Win later or; Win now, Stink later?
KiPA…your posts were so pro-Sedin I thought you were thinking we were crazy to not like them and get behind the cockamamey trade idea. Obviously I must have a Sedin bias…LOL
I’m just saying that Gaborik is probably the Wild’s #1 talent. And whenever you make a 1 for many player deal, the players that come back in trade rarely make up for the ’star’ player that left.
Herschel Walker not withstanding… 
Wfor9…
Good one. That’ll stir echoes of past discussions.
I’d take major suckage for 3 or 4 years in trade for a parade. But, I am in the minority.
Sadly, if they did do a Gaby for the twins. It would more than likey be a better return than the inevetable trade that eventually happens.
Bruno with pinky and the brain could be a hell of a line.
I’m in agreement with KJ and Wf9. That’s why I’m not as hot and bothered by the Gaby situation as some. I see our future being Koivu, Burns, Shep, Bouchard, Shultz as the future. I want a superstar, no question. But it doesn’t have to be Gaby and it doesn’t have to be this year. But I am also in the minority.
I don’t think you’re crazy to not want to trade Gaborik for them, I think you’re crazy for thinking they don’t belong in the NHL, which seems to be the sentiment. That’d be a much better return for Gaborik than say, what the Penguins got when they traded Jagr, who is much better than Gaborik (but that was almost purely a salary dump in a pre-cap era).
You could do worse in a trade but it’s not my first (or second, or third, etc.) choice, no.
Plus, as I said on the other thread, it was something else to discuss besides trade rumors. And sometimes it’s fun playing devil’s advocate.
Kevin, it’s not that they don’t belong in the NHL. It’s that they don’t belong on Planet Earth.
Well that’s different, Ms. C.
The wireless at the stadium I’m at went out so you might not hear from me much for a while to continue this, which you probably like since I’m spouting heresy.
You just keep being you, Kev.
So my Horns won but tried to lose at the end. Yikes. I’m worried about Texas Tech next week. They’ll probably take McCoy’s head off with an errant tortilla and our season is over… Maybe Major Applewhite has some remaining eligibility and we can suit him up.
Aeros and Wild on tonight. Overload!
Saku Koivu’s kids are so cute.
Ah. A night off, and there is hockey! Someone somewhere loves me.
I am going to choke on my Wild pride, but I think the Sedins would be an OK trade for UM. Note I say, OK, not great with it.
Really, right now I think I would be OK with them taking no NHL talent and getting all picks.
kj- I can respect the idea that UM is the #1 talent on the team, but can I repsectfully disagree? I really think the guy only has the numbers he does because the offense is geared around him. Feed him the puck, keep him back toward the blue line in the defensive zone looking for the long bomb type pass… out Koivu in the same position, with no real expectation for defense, and I think he scores 50 a year.
I’d take major suckage for 3 or 4 years in trade for a parade. But, I am in the minority.
I am not sure it would be a minority, I would take the parade hands down.
I am going to choke on my Wild pride, but I think the Sedins would be an OK trade for UM. Note I say, OK, not great with it.
I agree - do it now and we would have a solid feel for their fit in the system and I think they would be inclined to re-sign here on favorable terms if the fit is right. That said, that picture from the previous thread leads to many second thoughts
Buddha:
Let’s start with Koivu reaching 30 goals first before anointing him a possible 50 goal scorer. He’s on a scoring line more consistently than the last couple of years where he was on the checking line. If he plays a full season, that will also help.
I see him more getting more assists than goals but I can see him getting to 25-30 goals, 30-40 assists this season if he stays with Mittens and Bruno.
It’d be great if he’s score a couple of those 25-30 tonight. I went for him over Jokinen at center tonight. Numbers are similar in fewer games for Mikko, so I figure the odds are on my side.
I don’t say this often, but Go Habs!
Watching Wild live… did I just hear UM say, “I love it here, I want to stay here?”
Think maybe someone had a conversation or two with his agent, and maybe a PR guy?
Alright… I’ll let him start with 25-30. But as soon as he does it, I’m pushing him for 50. 
Other than Gaby, has any of the draftees gotten hat tricks in the regular season? I know Burns got one last pre-season.
I was hoping they would show the part where Bruno and Gaby talked about the Halloween costumes of their teammates. It sounded hilarious with just the audio.
I think they’ve replaced Queen Gaborik with Robot … ohhh Mikko on the tv… Gaborik who only knows how to say, “I love it here, I want to stay here.”
I guess once Gaborik is traded, FSN-North will now have to say Mikko Koivu and the Team of 18,000 instead of the current Marian Gaborik and the Team of 18,000.
Oh gawd, that mascot is awful.
Okay, so is there some kinda issue there in Minnesota with widescreen HD? I don’t think I’ve seen a Wild game in HD yet this season.
Were any of you watching the NHL network before the game? Don Cherry is a joy to listen to! I loved his take on Sean Avery, what a putz that guy is! All yap and nothing to back it up when the guy has the least bit of grit.
What do you think…do we see a fight for the Wild tonight? My guess is yes. Maybe Weller gets on the fight card, depending on playing time of course. A little history with this team!
Ah…. hockey…. I remember this.
hey thats my screen name!
Backs in the game early
Okay, so is there some kinda issue there in Minnesota with widescreen HD? I don’t think I’ve seen a Wild game in HD yet this season.
According to the Wild schedule this was going to be an HD game - http://wild.nhl.com/team/app?service=page&page=SubseasonSchedule - but it never was on my Comcast programing guide for FSNHD - LAME! I think we get less HD then any other market in the US.
Oh boy, are the comments screwed up again?
Wildfan… wow…
I have your email, your name everything on my screen.
Going to switch back to mine now…
anybody getting this in HD?
I got comcast and NO
I’m MAD
Awww, come on. That’s bullchit!
So… MAB lifts his arms to protect himself, and thats a penalty? I get the no elbowing thing, but come on…
If you’re gonna go in and check a guy, it’s your own damn fault if you get an elbow in the nose!!
Kill kill kill
I miss SRVs beard
ugh….
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/25/nhl-goalie-trips-over-pal_n_137842.html
Can THIS please make this crap stop?
A lot of puck control but no results!
So, Avery finally scores a goal (I’m watching the game on mute while I listen to the Wild game) and where is he on my fantasy team…
Sitting on the bench. Holmstom had better score tonight.
PMB!!!!! Way to end the 1st. I actually get to watch tonight too. I feel bad for Manny Legace.
my night was ruined. i saw that effing mascot on my way in before the gme. im surprised im still here.
I don’t have a HD tv so HD doesn’t matter but if you are in the St. Paul area and have comcast — Channel 201 is HD version of the game.
Damn, Kolanos is good.
Anyone watching Hotstove? Al Strachan said that a player told him that while TB was in Europe, Len Barrie (one of the owners) went into the locker room and starting drawing up PP plays.
Okay, I guess I was wrong. I turned to channel 201 and saw it on there but now, its blank.
How about a hooking call? Or an interference? Maybe?
Pascal’s out of the game.
That may be a good thing for us NiNY
KiPA or anyone:
Fantasy ? I started LeClaire just because I didn’t think the Wild was going to score more than 4 goals, which gives me an opportunity to win the goalie stats. Now that he’s out of the game, do I still get credit for him playing. He was my third goalie game.
Backs just saved out ass.
our not out
Nice puck control
sunshine. He started the game, yes you do. He made the appearance.
D&D must read the blog cuz they just said he must be drinking the koolaid The blog is doing very weird things all of a sudden.
What’s up!!
So PMB scored, and the blog is freaking out. Ok, I’m cool with that.
No HD on comcast….
ANYBODY GETTING HD?????
I’m watching abc
RUSSO! It’s the curse!
Didn’t JL threaten to go after Russo if anything happened to anyone on the bench tonight? Run Russo RUn!!!
The new FSN guy just the team in a couple of ways. I don’t even dare type how he jinxed them because I don’t want to make it worse.
Bandgeek: Thought of the same thing when Fuller got hit.
Ok, blog back to normal again.
Can we hear more about the other 14 games going on around the league instead of the gophers? At least it is hockey but still…….
The Mr brought me home a program from last Thursdays game. Really funny article about Gillies living with Burns. Apparently Burns is afraid of spiders.
Sounds like same one from home opener. It was a great story. I was laughing pretty hard.
The refs elbows sore or what?
They usually do one a month and just change the rosters and the covers for the different games. Saves on printing costs.
Ooo look, a PP!
atta boy Backs! Burnsie owes you a steak!
Backs saves our bacon again. That shootout practice this summer really helped.
Yep, yell at Boogie ya tool. Boogie wasn’t even on the ice.
Let him out there with Boogey
What does the guy want? He trips Bela, and gets a stick in the face.
Nick, you still thinkin’ a get together? The Mr and I are going to the game on Monday now.
Time to dance 25
Chimera’s just gotta go home man. Before he does something really stupid.
I know it’s been said before, but Commadore should have to change his number to 64.
Band: yeah. I think we’re looking at upstairs at McGovern’s round about 6 ish.
I have misssed that conversation, why is that Bandgeek?
GOAL!!!!!!!
You guys may complain all you like about the TV booth; Telly’s the one that makes me want to be sick (or just send a resume to FSN highlighting my journalism and media relations experience). Ever since the Leipold announcement I’ve been convinced the guy knows very, very little about hockey. Put him with the Wolves and send Marney back over; I don’t care.
I’d like to give the guy time but I don’t know if I can last that long without grinding my teeth to nothing and having to visit my dentist buddy in Edmonton… Wait, come to think of it, I’m visiting him in January when we play up there; I guess Telly will guarantee my boy some more business. Ugh.
You know how the Twins have the kids do a guest announcer spot in the pregame? Maybe I could volunteer to work a game that way; I already know the goalie coach’s name is Bob MASON, not Ramsey (the guy you interviewed in the first intermission, Tellster…)
If FSN was an elected office, I’d be voting to bring back Ron Johnson and Clay Matvick in ‘08!!
IRISH GOD OF WAR!!!
OLD MAN NOLAN!!!!!
The vision of our Captain… UNREAL
What is it with injuring goaltenders all of a sudden?
Commadore 64 was a popular PC in the late 80’s kgopher.
The curse of Palin for the blues
I am not liking Telly either. Seems like he shoudl be a football guy. Give me Clay Matvick any day. I like MN Wild Country on 45.
What was Chimera so pissed about? I know it had something to do with the giant welt on his cheek, but…
Thanks. I am a 1980 child so don’t remember some of that stuff.
I think Chimera got dumped and the side of his head encountered the goal post raising an ugly welt. He felt a Wild player induced the action intentionally - and there was no penalty called - and was put out about it.
Chimera is pissed because he tripped Belanger, Bela’s stick came up and hit him in the face, and there was no call.
well, we’re almost at the 56 minute witching hour…and here we go.
Crap!!!
What?? Thanks to D&D babbling I didn’t even see what happened.
Okay, I’m not watching the game. What happened on the bench to potentially incur JL’s wrath… and…. WTF isn’t Cal getting any TOI in the third?
I blame Columbus’s goal on Telly saying we had a shutout going.
Ms. C: a puck or something came flying up in the bench and hit Don Fuller in the head and he had to go down the tunnel. See the previous post I think by Russo on the subject of things flying into the bench and JL’s reaction if it happened tonight.
Bloody smurfing heck boys!!! Don’t slack off now!!
Chimera needs to hitch up his skirt and play.
Blood, Blood, Blood turns the ice… pink?
I might be glad I am really tired since they just said that Greenlay is going to demostrate fighting techniques. Go figure Chimera whining for a penalty. Ok, Greener, don’t agree with other team and give them a PP. There is no way that is a penalty.
crap…that’s ugly…man that makes me sick to my stomach to see…hope he’s okay
Anytime this stuff happens I think of Zednik. Yikes.
band: blood + white paint under ice + bright white lights = pink
OOoooo that actually looked really painful. Now that they’ve shown the slowmo replay.
Scary accident that thankfully doesn’t happen more often with sharps skates on feet but not a penalty.
+1 on the hitch up Chimera’s skirt and play.
Looks like a zipper to me Nick. Could have been much worse
plus, the chicks dig those scars on the chin, buddha
Wow.
Weird. The Aeros equipment guy got a puck in the face and had to leave the game, too.
It was nice to hear Zednick was back when we played the Panthers. The goalie was almost freakier to watch then Zednick since Zednick got off so much quicker.
that’s pretty thin….pretty f-ing thin
Bad call. Just bad.
Damn. Go Wild PK.
seriously, ms.c? That’s incredibly weird. Russo’s going to be sweating bullets.
good clear…
big, big kill there
Yeah, fer rizzle, Nick. Aeros down 2-4 at the end of 2. 
Just getting outplayed, though they look better than last night.
Ms C- Aeros televised? Ever?
I really like Backstrom tonight.
Nice PK.
High stick?
WHAT?
idiot gave the Wild the goal on TV
WTF
Good goal… not good… but good
unreal. Russo’s got to hold before he can file again, and WE CAN NOT FINISH A FREAKIN’ GAME!
(I think that’s a goal)
Buddha, there will be some games televised this year but they haven’t announced them yet. I’m watching on the AHL Live package on my computer.
Good lord boys. 60 minutes. 60. Not 59.9
No goal!
NO GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO GOAL
OMFG!
WOW…count your lucky stars, sportsfans.
Oh, they got ROBBED. But I’m totally okay with that.
YES!!!!!
Nash’s blade got it… he is a big guy.
UN-FING-REAL. Wow.
Let’s hold on for 11.5 seconds.
Was 93 maybe getting into Backs a bit too?
Nice shot of JL
JL’s look-priceless
Hitch’s blood pressure has got to be unreal…
lots of class there kid.
This makes me about as happy as us getting to keep the goal where the puck goes up Walz’s breezers and he got put in the net.
I’ll take it! Thank you Toronto!
Maybe the guys upstairs are thinking that the puck was touched by the guy behind Nash, and his stick was above his shoulders. I didn’t see who it was.
I just lost some respect for Nash with his temper tantrum there.
Nolan gets the GWG
Brassard!
Wow. Unreal. Absolutely unreal.
16 broke his stick over our goal. Shouldn’t that be some sort of penalty? Bad sportsmenship. Lucky break for us. WooHoo We win it!!!!
needless to say, we need to work on closing out games for the love of God! This game SHOULD be in OT right now.
What happened????
The hockey gods frowned upon the CBJs.
Lucky call for us, I’ll take it however, and very unsportsman like of the BJ’s players. (hehe I said BJ) …….ok, I’m more tired than I thought.
Ok, I have got to go to bed. Night all. All this fresh air this week is making me extra tired.
Would be surprised if #16 got a fine or something for his stick breaking tantrum at the end there. Nick the Mr and I will try to track you down, upstairs at McGoverns, 6ish. We might get there early to get some supper.
Man does my dog have some nasty gas tonight. I need to leave the room now. What the h.e. double hockey sticks did the Mr feed him?
I’m not trying to be biased or wear IRR colored glasses here but I think they actually got the call right in the War Room.
Rick Nash is 6′4″ w/o skates and it looked like the blade was at or slightly above his shoulders. I formed that opinion and that FSN actually broke it down as well but we know what that’s worth….
Crap! Miller’s posting a shutout and he’s on my bench because the Buffalo News said it was unlikely he’d start, and instead I had Leclaire, who got hurt AGAIN!
D’oh!
*sigh* Aeros lose 3-5. These 3 in 3s are brutal.
Ya just had to say the S word re: Miller, huh Kevin?
The breakdown they showed on the post game makes it make sense. It was no goal. Still nice to get the call for once.
Turco 6 more GA. Ovechkin… 4 goals for Wash. 0 pts. -1 on the night.
2 goals tonight. 2. Every guy going. 2 goals.
Christ. Turco.
Fedoruk scored a PPG for Phoenix.
How many goals total for EVERY PLAYER ON MY TEAM tonight?
2. 2 goals.
My team has given up 62 GA. Next closest is 42
I don’t really like the Blackhawk’s Winter Classic jerseys.
Here are the pics:
Buddha, I’m your match-up, and I only have 2 as well.
I do still have 3 players going but I wouldn’t expect any of them to score.
If anything, Ms. C, it should’ve guaranteed the shutout since I had him benched…I mean, I’ve got Nabokov who suddenly can’t stop a puck, but only after I drafted him.
At least Selanne, scored, Buddha..
*doesn’t make other comments about his ESPN team*
Wf9- I was talking about a different league… but I feel your pain none the less.
KiPA- Yes he did. The wound is starting to close a bit… got any salt you want to throw in real quick?
the nash no goal was a good call. he’s huge and the stick was at his shoulder.
if we are going to upstairs at mcgovern’s, or anywhere before the game, i’d try to get there before 6p if you can
i’ll be there by 5p. probably a little earlier.
YES! I took a category from Ms C too! PIMs. Sweet.
Wf9… I got 4 goals in Russoville league.
<iI don’t really like the Blackhawk’s Winter Classic jerseys
the hawks sweaters are kick ass. it is detroilet’s that suck.
effin tags
You know what? My fantasy teams suck. Kid screamed through almost the whole game… don’t care. Wild win. I’m happy.
Do we start a board on when Hards makes his first start. No real reason to right now, but you have to figure they will want to give Backs a break soon, yes? Even Nabokov got tonight off.
I think in the Buffalo game, someone said that the Wild had played the fewest games. The Sharks have played 9 and the Wild only 6 games.
I think harding will get a start soon — definitely either against Dallas or Montreal.
Buffalo and Minnesota are the only two teams to earn a point in every one of their games, to this point that is.
Nabokov needs to look over his shoulder, Buddha. He’s given up four goals at least three times and Boucher’s pitched a shutout in both of his starts.
As for salt on the wound… I dunno, but want to trade me a D for Kaberle and Kotalik? Like Streit?
Oh and hey, I didn’t take a single penalty tonight in the ESPN league.
I only got 2 goals in my other league as well, which only happened b/c Crosby finally got a second goal.
If I had to pick, I’d rather Harding play against Dallas. Then I can see him on tv.
Agreed re: Detwah’s classic jersey. It ain’t got no alibi… it’s ugly… hey hey it’s ugly.
Congrats on the PIM, Buddha. BTW, I love your avatar. I wanna hug whatever that thing is.
So, I guess everything isn’t updated because my WMB league isn’t showing the Avery goal yet.
They absolutely got the call right on that goal. I can’t believe the TV guys doubted it once they showed the right angle. There was one incredibly conclusive replay at crossbar level from the opposite end of the ice that perfectly clearly showed both the puck and Nash’s stick above the crossbar at the moment the deflection occurred. No goal.
It’s the crossbar, not the shoulders. Greenlay finally said as much in that breakdown. And since Nash is so tall, he doesn’t have to have his stick as high, relative to his body, as other guys to be above the crossbar.
If it’s on Yahoo, Ms. C, last I looked they were really slow on several games.
According to NHL Senior Executive VP Colin Campell in an email to me, the ref’s ruled good goal, but “we did not have a view that could prove it was a good goal and conclusively.”
Wait a minute, Russo: aren’t replays supposed to show conclusively that the on-ice officials were wrong? They don’t have to be proven right?
Koivu was just scintillating tonight.
Is he ever not?
The high stick goal is the only one that, if not conclusive, is sent back to the guys on the ice. The ref that called it goal was over-ruled by the other on-ice guys. Russo’s link explains it in the part about the Wild goal.
That’s what I thought, too Kevin… though I haven’t read that blog about it yet.
Hmm… well alright, 9, I didn’t read the link; but I don’t like that. So the guy closest to the play says goal, HQ says “we dunno,” so they send it to the other three guys, who are farther away who have to trust to their memory to make a final call?
Well both Detroit and Blackhawks jerseys are ugly. Of the two, Blackhawks one was uglier. I like the Sabres and Penguins from last year.
The closest official saw the puck go into the net. The other three could have had a better, unobstructed view of the high-sticking while there were bodies blocking the closest official from seeing it clearly.
They could’ve, sunshine, sure, but my problem is they have to go off just their memory. Maybe at the time of the initial discussion they could’ve said “well we didn’t think it went in” which would make it better.
I don’t know if they would have told Toronto or video folks upstairs of the ice official conclusions. No matter what they still need to go through the whole procedure of reviewing a goal. Instill confidence in the system.
I suppose. It bothers me though if they review it and let the on-ice guys stand around for two, three, five minutes and then end up asking them, “So what did you see?” As someone who has an awful short-term memory… granted these guys are surely better at it and it is something that would likely stick in their brains, but it goes from a video review to bringing human element back into play.
I’m not saying it should have been a goal. I haven’t even see the play. But can you see where I’m coming from?
I would think, since the refs should know a high-stick goal may be tossed back to them, they would think about the goal while Toronto is looking at it, and try to remember what their opinion was initially.
MsC, I’m starting to really like Clutter at the X. He really nails stuff down. He will hit anything. I like that.
I still wish my old post wasn’t being reviewed… I really had alot to say. Pretty good stuff too. Damn cops.
Looking live from the other side of the ice I thought the goal would stand. But Nash is about 6′5″, which makes him a tough guy when he is picking on “Mittens” dind’t have a good look at the non-goal. But Hockey Gods owed us a bit.
and try to remember what their opinion was initially.
Exactly: try. What if they misremember?
During the post game instructional on FSN they had a few things to say.
They did a little measuring with someone about the same size as Nash.
They showed that his stick would have been above the crossbar. It was helpful to see the height measured a little closer to the goal.
First problem is that Rick Nash was further from the goal, so cameras are going to be more difficult to use for judgment.
The final and biggest downfall of their measurement is in the fact that Nash was not standing straight up nor were his legs together.
Nash had a considerable V in his stance.
All that aside, in my opinion it was not a goal. I only got to see the reviews from home but it looked as the he was high sticking for sure.
Bothers me too KiPa
PJ Stock is an idiot. He was shown on the side camera view waving like a total idiot.
Okay, I don’t understand why Erik Cole was kicked out of the Oilers vs. Canucks game because his shirt came off too easily?
Anyone notice that this year PMB is not tucking in his shirt.
Careful you don’t get called MiKA
Evan, it wasn’t a goal
It’s an odd rule, but not one Wild fans will complain about until it goes against them…
Time for bed. My part-time job is doing their holiday set, and the entire store needs to be turned by 11 am. Fun times will be had
Wow, fans arguing about stuff… I could go in a number of directions with that.
Any Wild fans thing that Columbus is doing a good job? Since we suck so bad… It’s good to put a couple things in perspective. Not that you will even care. Fire everybody! Stupid.
That was supposeed to be think, not thing. But you should get the spirit of the thing.
MsC, I’m starting to really like Clutter at the X. He really nails stuff down. He will hit anything. I like that.
Nice to hear. Sounds like a consensus is growing and the Clutterlove is spreading. It’s impossible not to like the guy if you like players who leave it all on the ice. But I still have heard nothing regarding why he didn’t play a single shift in the third period. Russo? Stencils? Bueller? Hockey gods? Anybody?
if someone or the CBJ are keeping Nash’s missed breakaways, the Wild should keep track of Gaby’s (as long as he’s on the team) missed breakaways.
Nash is 0-7 so far.
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Nobody says someone is MKiA until I say they’re MKiA…
KiPA…I think the sisters belong in the NHL. They just don’t belong in MN unless it is a road trip.
Glad to see they pulled out a victory while I had to watch it from the stage at Arizonas. Even from there it looked like ‘no goal’…
I don’t have tix for Monday nite, but I’m game to drop in for a pre-game meal…just let me know where/when.
On this rumor, why would the Wild not let a team making a solid offer talk to Salcer?
Risebrough is believed to be asking for one of Dustin Brown or Alexander Frolov as part of a package in exchange for Gaborik. While the Kings prefer to keep Brown, they are supposedly willing to let Frolov go.
However, before any trade is consummated, the Kings, along with any other club closing in on a deal for Gaborik, want to first speak with agent Ron Salcer about signing a new long-term contract extension.
It’s uncertain, at this point, if the Wild would be willing to grant another club that right.
TFP also has these teams on the interested list: Toronto, Pittsburgh, Vancouver, Edmonton and Florida. I wonder when OTT now at 2-5-1 are going to get in the mix -
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/lak081026.html
A few thoughts:
1. When Derek Boogaard really decides to concentrate on hockey, he can almost be a more intimidating presence than when he’s ‘enforcing’. Maybe he’s been told the key to staying in the line-up is to keep the gloves on except when necessary. A little offense never hurt one’s chances for staying up with the big club.
2. Is Derick Brassard really trying to be the second coming of Jody Shelley? That is, the jarhead forward of the Blue Jackets? He was itching for someone to come after him last night, IMO, and no one took the bait.
3. Andrew Brunette, again, IMO, looked like he was about age 75 out there last night. He seemed to be about a full step behind the play a good part of the evening.
4. You cannot really complain about your record being 5-0-1, even IF your name is Jacques Lemaire. We’ll see about the next two weeks, when 5 of their next 7 games are on the road, all against Western Conference opponents (except the home game vs. Montreal on Oct. 30).
Hopefully, we can say the same thing about the Wild after they return from the West on November 9th.
’nuff said…for now.
6GS: I would almost think you would have to talk to Salcer before a trade would be agreed on. The team receiving UM (Gaby) would need to know that they would have a chance of re-signing him before giving up players to obtain his rights.
Even though Gaby says he wants to stay here, his actions speak otherwise, so why would any GM trade for him unless (or, until) they spoke to his agent?
Mister Know it all- I watched the game last night in person and I did miss Gaborik, Deres no Doubt ! You can see in the game where he would be able to help out last night. You can also see that Mikko Koivou is a superstar by the way.
I understand the rational of both sides and I have offered free tips for both sides to resolve the problem but both sides have failed to accept Mister Know it alls suggestions.
The Wild need a sniper in return for Gaborik right now. The Wild are a cup contender, and anyone that cant see that this year is more on the loopy side of the spectrum. JL has his players this year - deres no doubt !
He does need a gabby in the line up or his replacement this year.
In a way not having Gabby playing against teams like Vancouver- Edmonton- Duckies- Calgary would be easier becasue they can focus on playing the game and not defending him.
They need something done with Gabby- either him in the line up or his replacement otherwise an L in regulation will be happening soon
Signed: Mister Know it all
“The Wild are a cup contender”
That’s true as long as Detroit bombs, San Jose does another playoff flop, Dallas gets the injury bug, the Ducks continue their impression on the Panthers, the Canadiens implode, the Penguins all go out golfing and get injured leaving their golf carts(just kidding Kevin), and we somehow re-create the miracle run of 2003.
Sorry if I forgot an elite team…
About the game last night. After that game I think I have a patch of grey hair watching us nearly couch up another lead. It was scary close but still you couldn’t look away… like a car crash! I really agree that we owe the NHL a big hug or a nice Christmas card after waiving off that goal. Although it felt really good to have a call go in our favor. After watching our team on the losing end of late whistles, early whistles and waived off goals last season. There seemed to be quite a few last year. Anyone else think Burns has a lethal mix right now from missing all of September and not being able to practice with the team plus trying to be superman out there? Looked like a very rough night for him.
Ok, so last night I saw my friend who is a true Habs fan (grew up in Montreal, friends with one of the Ast. Coaches) I asked her for her take on the Gaby to Habs rumors. She said “…we don’t want him, he’s broken. I wouldn’t give you a bag of pucks for that injury prone whiner. He’ll never see the money he wants with his injury history.” Kinda goes with how I feel about all that…. poop.
So Monday night, G* said he’d be there at about 5 - ish, the Mr and I would probably get there between 5 - 5:30 (depends on when he gets off work). The Mr plans to wear his Jets jersey, I most likely will wear my Green Walz jersey. G* will have on tan crocs (and hopefully that won’t be it). McGovern’s second floor, any particular corner?
Hey Gabby- Take off your skirt and get back on the ice so we can jettison your sorry a%* outta here!
Well, we looked great in the first period and then somewhat shakey from then on. But, we had moments in the last 2 periods where we looked good. Bottom line is we won. We sure could use a sniper though. Just couldn’t bury it much in the first. I did like Nolan’s goal though. That’s why we got him–get in front of the net. So, Bruno is slow. We have known that for a long time. That’s why DR didn’t sign him after the lockout. I thought he was right but Mrs. Woodcock strongly disagreed–and she was right. He is great behind the net and gives us good scoring chances. Yes, Burns had some egregious momnets–4 that I remember where he could have cost us a goal. But he will become one of the best D in the league in the near future. Skoula-haters–he played well. Kimmy J. had one shift where he was just fabulous.
Kimmy J has been our best defender so far in this young season. Burns has definitely shown flashes but he has had many shaky moments as well. I’m not worried though, I know Burns will return to his elite status in the near future.
Johnsson has looked good and his contract seems pretty reasonable nowadays, eh?
- You heard Johnsson is way better than you think here first (self promoting posts makes me feel like MKIA)
- Here’s a fun one from TFP’s David Pagnotta:
Pure speculation here, but whispers of a package involving Dustin Penner, Fernando Pisani and Rob Schremp have crept up. I don’t know how much stock I’d put into that at this stage of the game, so don’t read too much into it. Regarding the Canucks, unless they’re willing to part with the Sedin twins, you can forget about them acquiring Gaborik.
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/edm081026.html
A lot of fans forget that Burns is still about 10-12 days behind everyone else as far as development due to the elbow injury. Burns I don’t worry about. Johnsson I definitely don’t worry about. Schultz? No worries. Zidlicky? New, hasn’t played much due to the knee. MAB? Got the crap beat out of him several times, other than that…
…and then, there’s Good Ol’ Marty S., and even he is getting somewhat less prone to mistakes. (At least it SEEMS that way.)
As for the rumor Gaby to Edmonton from TFP: Does anyone here really think Gaby would go to Edmonton? If he hates Minnesota, he’ll REALLY hate Edmonton, where every minute you are in town is microscopically scrutinized (ask Chris Pronger)…and the Grease fans will let him know it. Unmercifully.
apologies upfront if this was already covered, just gleened through an article on yet another sell out at the Xcel… and noted coverage by NHL writers Russo, Shipley and Sid Hartman. Yikes. Read and puke. I couldn’t- didn’t have lunch yet. Somehow my appetite is gone.
Russo- thanks for spoiling the faithful in Russoville.
We are not forgetting that Burns is behind. Burns will be fine this year but it is ok to point out mistakes and last night’s were pretty egregious.
You would have to think Gaby would play for EDM if they go beyond the contract he wants on July 1.
It depends on what Gaborik is after. We all assume he is looking for the most money, but there has also been talk he wants to go to LA, or to a place with a bigger media presence. He may even try to pull a Hossa, and go to the Cup champs, whoever they may be.
The problem is no one except Gaborik and his agent really know what he wants, and I don’t think we will until he signs a new contract.
I could see Gaby playing in Edmonton if he hits July 1st. I have no doubt Edmonton or Vancouver will offer him his $10M a year. However I don’t think Risebrough would be dumb enough to take on overpaid Penner in a trade. It would sting to get a bad return like a handful of prospects that never make it to the NHL or low draft picks but to take on Penner’s overpaid contract that would be Kevin McHale like.
If Sundin signs for $10M with the Canucks then no Gaby to Vancouver. That offer is supposedly still on the table for Mats.
