Dallas Stars 4, Wild 3
Posted on November 26th, 2008 – 7:00 PMBy Michael Russo
I feel like I’ve just gone 10 rounds (OK, one round) with Boogaard. That was exhausting to cover with Thanksgiving deadlines.
I don’t even know where to begin with this wacky one. I don’t know if I’ve covered a stranger game in my life.
First of all, Marty Turco was the shakiest I’ve ever seen a goalie that a) didn’t get pulled and b) won.
For 60 minutes, Turco was literally flopping around like Sean Avery drawing a penalty. Turco probably needs a masseuse after all the spasms and jerks he performed. It’s amazing he didn’t pull a groin. Yet the Wild still blew a 3-1 lead to lose 4-3. The Wild hit, I believe, five crossbars or posts – including one from Brent Burns with eight ticks left.
On one Antti Miettinen third-period chance behind the net, Turco was again a fish out of water, but James Neal, who already had two goals, saved a goal. Eric Belanger missed one wide-open net, which came a minute after the Mikko Koivu disallowed goal, net-off-the-moorings incident I’ll get into in a second.
On one Neal goal, video goal judge Ron Foyt and supervisor Mick McGeough must have had 20-20 vision because either Neal may havepossibly scored on a high-stick or maybe Marc-Andre Bergeron scored an own goal. Bergeron seemed to complain that Neal batted it in with a high-stick and maintained that after. Yet, the puck was dropped immediately with no review.
I honestly never got a great look. Watching it live, I thought Bergeron scored. On a quick replay, I thought Neal might have gotten it with his stick near the crossbar. Regardless, the Wild was still ahead 3-2 at that point anyway.
Yet it took 10 minutes to review an obvious no-goal from Koivu (yes, Koivu had two incidents where goals were disallowed) before that coach Jacques Lemaire felt ruined the momentum and turned the tide.
Other weirdness? There was one penalty that made most dig for a rule book. The Wild was whistled for a faceoff violation minor penalty. Belanger and Burns were each kicked out of the faceoff circle, and yes, according to rule 76.4, two players ejected for faceoff violations on one faceoff results in a penalty.
Since 1995, I’ve never covered a game with that call because usually the second center plays it safe. However, it’s the second time it’s happened to the Wild. According to head of off-ice officials Barry Fritz, it happened to the Wild in 2002. Jim Dowd was kicked out of the circle, then he also jumped too soon to get the team the penalty.
Other weirdness? Derek Boogaard hit one Dallas Stars player so hard, the player, Nicklas Grossman, had to yank his jersey from between the glass to free himself.
Other weirdness? Burns played some shifts as a defenseman. What could be any weirder than that? Burns, a defenseman who has been playing wing since Oct. 30, had to play defense for the final six minutes of the first because Marek Zidlicky left the bench for an undisclosed reason (injury or equipment). But Zidlicky returned.
OK, first on the first Koivu no-goal, with the Wild up 3-1 on a second-period power play, he took a one-timer that clanked the crossbar, then post. The red light went off, but play continued until referee Tom Kowal blew play dead an emphatically signaled that it was a goal.
Replays I saw were crystal clear that it wasn’t a goal, yet it took an unbelievable 10 minutes for Foyt, McGeough and Toronto to overturn Kowal. Look, I’m all for being right, but come on.
Lemaire felt that turned momentum. Neal cut it to 3-2 on that one goal I mentioned earlier.
Then, early in the third, it looked like Koivu made it 4-2. With Turco again diving around six feet out of his net, Koivu scored into an empty net. Kowal, showing no awareness that the net was off, signaled goal. He then saw the net was off and correctly waved it off.
Replays showed moments earlier, Turco knocked the net off himself.
Lemaire was furious, saying Turco’s done this three times to the Wild, he’s got a history of it and then sarcastically looked into the TV cameras and said, “Now they’ll know. Next time, just watch. Maybe it will happen.”
Because of deadline, I had to make a choice between waiting for Koivu, who was getting treatment, and getting Turco. I chose Turco because I wanted reaction to Lemaire’s accusation.
I flew into the Turco scrum and interrupted. Turco admitted that he’s knocked nets off before when he’s bumped just to make sure it’s off, but he said this time it was unintentional. He said he lost his balance and used the crossbar to regain his balance.
He also said sarcastically, “I’m actually impressed that [Lemaire’s] been paying attention to what I’ve been doing historically.” And added, “They probably deserve a better fate tonight, but I don’t give a [you know what].”
Turco, by the way, did say he thinks plays like that should be discretionary. In other words, Koivu’s goal would have gone in even if the net wasn’t off, so he feels the ref should have the discretion. But as Turco said, “That’s not the rule.”
Still, the Wild was ahead 3-2. Belanger, who scored an earlier goal, had a breakaway try, deked Turco to the ice, but missed the net with a chance to make it 4-2. It was costly because Brad Richards tied the score minutes later and then Loui Eriksson scored the eventual winner with seven minutes left.
Belanger fell on the knife for his missed net. Last game against Washington, the Wild gave up three goals in the last five minutes but survived. Belanger warned that it was going to burn the Wild if it doesn’t stop (Wild blew a two-goal at home against Buffalo to lose in overtime, too).
“I wish I had an answer. We let another lead get away from us. Frustrating, really frustrating,” Belanger said. “We were in control of that game. I don’t know. Two quick goals. I wish I had an answer so we could correct it and never do it again. We got burned today. I said we were going to get burned and we got burned today.”
It’s only the fifth time and first since Nov. 4, 2006, that the Wild scored three or more goals at home and lost in regulation. Niklas Backstrom, who was fuming after the game that the Wild didn’t recognize that the bounces were going the other way and didn’t play safer, lost for the first time in regulation after carrying a lead into the third period (44-1-3).
Other stuff: Belanger (98th career goal), Owen Nolan (140th career power-play goal) and Andrew Brunette (32nd career goal at Xcel) scored goals.
The Wild is 1-3 on the homestand, and this was to a porous Dallas team (19 points behind San Jose entering tonight and one win in its past seven).
Stephane Veilleux played his 300th game.
Nolan’s goal was his first since Oct. 25.
Martin Skoula got his first point since March 24 on Brunette’s goal.
Burns has 98 career points.
The Wild’s two-goal first period was amazingly just its second of the season and first at home.
Minnesota is 2-8-3 in its past 13 against the old North Stars.
The Wild has played six straight one-goal games (3-3).
OK, I’m fried. Good night, and have a Happy Turkey Day everybody.
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OK, here we go. Craig Weller and Colton Gillies scratched. Doug Janik out for Dallas.
Tonight is the Wild’s 20th game, nearly the quarter mark.
ENTERING TONIGHT’S GAME, here’s some first-quarter Wild highlights as released by the NHL:
C Mikko Koivu posted 12 assists in his first seven games, the most
since Wayne Gretzky had 13 for the Los Angeles Kings in 1993-94; Koivu
leads the Wild in scoring with 5-14–19 in 19 games . . . The Wild’s
penalty-killing is the best in the NHL, allowing seven power-play goals in
73 times shorthanded for a 90.4% success rate. No club in the expansion era
has finished a season at 90% or better - the 1999-00 Dallas Stars came
closest at 89.3% . . . G Niklas Backstrom ranks among NHL goaltending
leaders in all major categories, including wins (tied for second, 12), save
percentage (third, .930), shutouts (T-second, two) and goals-against
average (fourth, 2.05). Backstrom has played in 18 of Minnesota’s 19 games
. . . Returning to Minnesota after playing three seasons with the Colorado
Avalanche, LW Andrew Brunette has a share of the team goal-scoring lead
(six) and ranks third in points (6-5–11 in 19 games). Brunette is the
NHL’s active leader in consecutive games played (472).
232 Responses to "Dallas Stars 4, Wild 3"
Question: Has Cal Clutterbuck effectively replaced Stephane Veilleux? They seem like they were the same style of player, but Cluts has been much more effective this year, and everyone seems to like saying his name better.
Should Steph expect to be back next year?
Effective meaning, making his presence known, not necessarily by points.
Nyquil rocks. I might take a shot each night.
Mark it down: last year was the closest the Penguins come to a Cup.
Hi everyone: Ovechkin has a hat trick against the Thrashers tonight. Whew, that could of easily been us. Go Wild.
Owen. YaaaaaaaaaH. Go Wild.
didn’t someone say that Nolan wouldn’t ever score a couple days ago? Who was that, and what do we get to see them do now that he did?
Ever, KiPA?
Good lord, Bergie is tiny
it wouldn’t be run naked thru rice park eating a block of cheese would it?
During Crosby or Malkin’s time in Pittsburgh.
ALMOST a Skouba there at the end…
Skoula had his best scoring opportunity of the year there. Wrong net though.
Quiet night tonight…
I cannot believe neither Dumb or Dumber realized the face off violation penalty. Dumber was yappin about “Uh, I think the Wild are getting a penalty, but I’m not sure what’s going on”.
MORON.
Fire Dumb and Dumber NOW!
DID SKOULA JUST SCORE?!?!
Guess Skoula was just warming that net up?
Skoula!!!!!!!!!!
Pretty sure a pig just flew past my window…
cue the locusts man. The apocalypse is approaching.
for comparison’s sake, I think Reaugh and Strangis had that faceoff violation penalty right away.
And now PMB shoots the puck. There are weird things afoot in the X tonight.
D&D gave us a “well…the puck didn’t drop yet, I’m not sure what’s going on” with a little “it could be a delay of game for..changing…icing” on the side.
Pouly just has no urgency. Am I the only one seeing that?
And then…
Worst fight ever.
Nick, anyone in any other TV market had the faceoff penalty.
I think Boogey held off on that guy. Credit to Reaughzor for claiming Boogey wasn’t trying to hit Robidas in the head. Big respect for that.
No kidding with the apocalypse - Crosby scored.
Wow Koivu
MIKKO!
that’s not a goal.
I think they will call that one back
either way…that was a FROCKET!
Oh he totally did hold off, Nick. But I guess Barch had to go if he was gonna go charging at Boogie.
enough proof for no goal? is that whats taking so long?
Guess these koivu slapshots mean Greenie is going to to be pulling his howitzer line back out. All silver linings have a cloud…
if the video is inconclusive, does the call on the ice stand??
yes nick
that’s the right call IMO.
we need an explanation? just make the signal ref
Ok time to make one that does count
“are they blind in Minnesota?”
ha, ms.c I know: how did he THINK they’d react in the building?
call off the four horsemen: Bruno got that goal, not Skoula.
phew
damn they took skoula’s goal and gave it to bruno
Prediction: if the Stars stay bad, the “Bring Modo back to finish his career where he started it” campaign will again rear it’s ugly head.
Boo. Could’ve used that Koivu goal.
well JL obviously didn’t think Boogaard was in the wrong on Robidas or with the fight if he’s getting another shift here.
that was pretty funny where Boogey jammed that poor kid into the space between the glass. I can’t recall ever seeing that before in a game.
Same thing happened to Bella when he was with Atl. Was his only “highlight” I could find on youtube when we picked him up.
Help, help!!! I’m being held captive by my kitchen!!
WTF??
A PP with Clutts and Veillux…have we sunk so low?
MAB own goal??
I think we play better when I wash dishes and bake cookies.
No making love in the kitchen BG. Go watch the game and have a drink.
That was ROUGHING? Bullsh*t.
man, big, big save there.
Most contact Pouliot has had all night. Least he got into it this time, not like watching cluts work the corner 1on2 in the 1st
whoa, who is 25 for Dallas? He looks like he MIGHT come up to nipple level on Boogey.
Eww theo just ewwww. No fresh chocolate chip cookies, or pineapple salad (made with my grandmothers recipe) for you.
Nick, that would be Chris Conner, he’s 5 foot 8 inches. So yes, nipple height to Boogie might be about right.
Probably Conner. What’ funny about him is that he was John Scott’s d-partner and roommate at Michigan Tech. Talk about Mutt and Jeff.
wow…let me guess, ms.c: they went as Austin Powers and Mini-Me for halloween??
Bolts just tie it with 50 seconds left in regulation.
Bolts’ third looks like an All-Star Game jersey
If they didn’t they should have.
Sorry I don’t know KiPA, but why do they call Malkin Geno?
TheGun: I would think it would be a play on evGENI, but that’s a guess.
EvGENI?
we are being pretty passive here to start the 3rd. That’s not exactly a good thing.
Did you know that’s Russian for Eugene?
Sincerely,
Cliff Claven
Evgeni = Eugene = Gene = Geno.
Nice shot by Pouly.
so is it a hard “G” or a “J”? Jee-no?
Has Avery been in the whole game? First time I’ve seen him.
Interesting goal tending by Turco there
Lame. Valid but LAME.
ok. I was not aware it is Russian for Eugene. Makes perfect sense now, except calling a Russian by an Italian nick-name 
that’s twice now we’ve gotten a bad break in this game.
Comon Bella
We’re a worldly people, TGS.
Or something like that.
Is Schultz playing?
I see identity issues persist. That KiPA 9:10 was me.
Second time in two years opposing goalie knocks the net off and we miss out on what would clearly be a goal.
there he is.
Turco is a Motherf’er.
I guess the first 9:10
Pouliot nearly broke Sydor on that one.
man, turco lets two leak through him on the same play!
MFer.
Boo hiss.
AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!
not good at all. Where is the killer instinct?
I’m a really patient person but this third period choking is getting old.
Time out, time out!
wow.
Belanger needs to SHOOT!
Had a nolan koivu 2-1 chance, a net off goal, a bella break, and that behind the net roller. Most killer instinct they’ve shown all year
I understand being a little unfocused after all the weird crap that’s gone on in the game, but you’ve gotta snap out of that and be a professional, you know?
Totally.
PMB circle, leads to a clear by Dallas…and he gained the zone with Benny too…
DAMMIT!!
unreal.
At least they’re not the blues…
Kevin, I shoulda gone with my gut and picked up Neal.
AUGH. Butch! JL needs to put a shock collar on that kid and every time he peels off and spins just inside the blue line, he zaps him.
So what happens if you guys lose Demitra and Backstrom?
This game is b.s. Turco is a cheater and the refs have been dicks.
Backstrom has never lost in regulation when leading after 2 periods.
I mean Gaborik
Maybe grab him anyway and cut some other deadweight?
Lose demitra again?
What the f are you talking about? Demitra’s in VAN.
First rayray 9:26 was me. So fun, thanks strib.
Oh, I can’t imagine what it would be like without Gaborik.
Who’s Gaborik?
dumb, dumb, dumb
DAMN*T BURNS!
Have the Wild sent anybody out on the ice for the third period? I don”t have tv coverage where I am. I can’t believe this crap.
Ohh, that was Burnzie? Shoot. Kid. Another late dumb one.
If a goalie knocks his own net off, by himself, no one around: penalty. A net-minding violation if you will.
it’s been pretty bad, theo. No heart at all from the boys.
So. 5-3 with an empty netter?
God, I hope Gaborik comes to Vancouver but not next season, NOW. You can have Taylor Pyatt. I think that’s a fair offer. Cause we all know Gabby isn’t injured, he’s faking it because he hates playing in Minny. Pyatt for Gabby is a good deal.
Way to go Wild. Stellar job - blowing yet another multi-goal lead in a home game.
Cause we all know Gabby isn’t injured, he’s faking it because he hates playing in Minny.
Meanwhile, Sundin continues to avoid the Nuks like the plague. Of all fans, you would think Nuk fans would try to avoid bad karma at this point.
Boy, this one is hard to stomach.
Wow, real genius there porthole.
Good thing we’re getting used to these
this is a very frustrating loss for me. It’s not even that they finally blew a 3rd period lead. It’s HOW they did it.
Completely flat, no heart, questionable professionalism, no killer instinct. Whose job is it to grab this team by the balls when needed? Because he’s not doing it.
Ugh, if there is one person who’s stick we want it on…and nothing. Koivu, killing me here.
The better we do, the closer Sundin will get to signing with the Nux. He was just waiting a few months to see which team is exciting (Nucks) and which team is more boring than watching crust form in puddles of old milk (Wild).
At this point, I’d make that deal.
Fudge. 
Stoopid Stars.
Bring on the trolls to kick us when we’re down.
Wow, you just lost to the 15th (ie: worst) team in the league? Ouch!
which team is exciting (Nucks)
*choking* Haha. Funny. Thanks. I needed that.
Agree 100% NINY.
I mean 15th team in the Western Conference. God, why do I keep posting before proofreading. I’m so drunk!
If you listen to him, the Wild should be up 10-0. He insults the intelligence of any smart hockey fan on a nightly basis.
Im talking about Greenlay.
Come on… having two goals waived off is a morale downer.
agreed that it’s a morale downer, but if you can’t shake it off and finish a game, then I get to question your professionalism.
To be fair, Greenlay did say that the the call on Koivu’s goal was correct and said that it shouldn’t be a goal because it didn’t look like it crossed the goal line.
That’s all can defend on Greenlay.
I didn’t see the second goal, and I agree that it sucks getting goals disallowed, but the first one at least was the correct call. Just got to go back to work when that happens.
The better we do, the closer Sundin will get to signing with the Nux
Keep thinking that during the next 5 weeks without the goalie that also won’t make a long term commitment to your team. How’s that extension for Ohlund the Leg Breaker coming along?
Didn’t it look like they stopped pressuring even skating after the second waived goal?
the second was legit too, though Turco had knocked the net off himself which makes it more frustrating. But it was still the right call.
Turco’s good for that. He really needs to get called on that.
Portia.
I would like to point out that with that win, Dallas actually moves up to #14 in the Western Conference, leaving Colorado in the #15 slot.
That being said, I would like to present this gem from the Cunuck’s website:
Wed, Nov 12; Colorado; L 1-2 SO
Go back to your hole.
Do you think that Harding will get next start?
Yeah, he should have been called for that. There was no one around when he knocked it off the moorings.
Didn’t it look like they stopped pressuring even skating after the second waived goal?
Actually, I thought they opened the third flat - which they’ve been doing all season.
But either way, it’s still unacceptable. Poop happens, those calls are tough to swallow and you just put it aside and get back on your game.
Portia.
I would like to point out that with that win, Dallas actually moves up to #14 in the Western Conference, leaving Colorado in the #15 slot.
That being said, I would like to present this gem from the Cunuck’s website:
Wed, Nov 12; Colorado; L 1-2 SO
Go back to your hole.
pow at 9:48 was me sunshine. Sorry.
For a couple of games, I thought we solved our third period problem. I guess they need to work on it again.
no problem sunshine.
2 players had a hat trick tonight: Malkin and AO.
I thought there were 3 (Naslund #3) but his last goal was a SO goal so that doesn’t count.
That SUCKS!
I am not saying that Koivu’s first goal actually went in, but they did not have enough views to wave it off!
But, Turco ought to have drawn a minor penalty for Delay of Game!
They award penalty shots for intentionally knocking the net off the moorings too.
And, given that play continued it could have been a goal.
Zebra’s need to call a fair game. How many “real” goals have been waived off when we play Dallas? I can’t count them all but the first one was our maiden year when we played in Dallas and Laaksonen scored but they waived it off as inconclusive.
I am sick of the damn zebras incompetence.
You won’t want to miss my game comments in the am, FYI. However, got stuff to do tonite
they did not have enough views to wave it off!
The one look I saw was enough to waive it off from where I was sitting.
the refs didn’t lose this game for us. We had a 3-1 lead late in the second, a 3-2 lead going into the 3rd, and an epic fail for the last 20 minutes.
I thought both no goal calls were the right call.
Well, that 3rd period had about as much heart as Gho$t’s rehab.
You could just smell it coming.
Dallas has some good players that have been in a funk.
Bring on the Wild.
The cure for what ails ya. Did it have to be Dallas tho? I mean, the only thing worse would have been Modano scoring the game winner.
Ugh.
I did not read the early comments, but I am not sure the first goal being waived off was the right call.
You could not see the puck after it hit the first pipe. You can only surmise where it went next. It is really pretty hard to hit the top crossbar and then go across to the side pipe. It might very well have hit the middle pipe in the back of the net and then bounced off the side.
But, once they called it a goal, they needed irrefutable evidence that it was not a goal and so it should have counted! There was not evidence to waive it off once called a goal.
Sharks fans are booing Campbell each time he touches the puck.
Remember that when Penguins fans boo Hossa in February. We’re not the first to boo a deadline-day acquisition who didn’t re-sign with us.
And Campbell didn’t even go to the team that eliminated the Sharks.
The second was the right call but Turco should gotten a penalty because knocked it off prior to the flurry and goal.
Nah, that wasn’t a goal.
Evidence that it didn’t cross the goal line was more than sufficient since there were no views of the puck crossing the line. Thus, no goal.
KiPA…You have every right to get medieval on Hossa.
Boo him incessantly.
Make him think he accidentally went to Philly.
Good thing: no Parrish revenge.
I don’t entirely agree. Hossa wasn’t obligated to re-sign in Pittsburgh. It seems foolish to boo him for making a choice.
Though believe me, I was as mad as anyone when he signed in Detroit.
Keep thinking that during the next 5 weeks without the goalie that also won’t make a long term commitment to your team. How’s that extension for Ohlund the Leg Breaker coming along?
So on one hand you criticize Ohlund and on the other, you question why we aren’t re-signing him. I for one, really hope he stays, but if he doesn’t want to re-sign, they will have to trade him before the deadline and they will get someone huge in exchange.
But back to you guys. How will it feel to see Gaborik and Demitra re-united in Vancouver, teaming up to defeat the Wild?
Again, Pyatt for Gaborik and Backstrom can come along as Luongo and Sanford’s # 3.
Gee, I should be a GM!
KiPA…you’re just giving your opinion as to whether he made a good choice or not…
He should have re-signed in Pittsburgh. He was brought in to win a cup. He failed. It should motivate him.
But, it might be too ‘hard’ so he went elsewhere.
Just like Gho$t…eventually.
Gee, I should be a GM!
Not when you’re kissing Ellen.
it might be too ‘hard’ so he went elsewhere
Boy you’re awfully convincing….
But Sunshine, it was called a goal. The only way to waive off a goal was to see evidence that it was not.
Now, if they had called it a No Goal in the first place, I would agree because there was no evidence (unless the zebra saw it in the net) that it was a goal.
Then to review a no goal and reinforce the no goal would be correct.
But, NOT if they originally call it a goal.
The puck disappears behind Turco and nobody can see it until it is back on the ice.
It seemed quite clear to me from the overhead shot. No goal.
Porti, I do not care where Gaby ends up not playing. It could just as well be Vancouver. He might as well drain the Canucks payroll.
It seemed quite clear to me from the overhead shot. No goal.
+1
I’m going to miss booing Jagr, that was truely good for the soul.
But, MissConduct, it was called a goal. Now you need irrefutable evidence and there was none.
I concede it probably did not go in.
But, it went off at least two posts and was back on the ice quicker than any shot I have seen.
We have had goals scored against us that went under the side of the net (Avs agains Roloson) and so I am fine saying it ought to have counted.
Dude, I saw the puck go along the goalline but never saw it go over the line. It was irrefutable. It wasn’t a goal.
I understand what you’re saying but it seemed irrefutable to me. It was quick shot that hit the posts and didn’t go in. I don’t know where it went but you could see inside the net and there was never a puck in it. No goal. And that’s my final answer. As much as I don’t like it.
Are you sure you don’t want to phone a friend ms.c???
Agreed, ms. c. It was quite clear from the overhead shot that the puck never crossed the goal line. No goal.
It was decisive and correct ruling.
Don’t tell me you were listening to Terhaar and agreeing with him? Even Greenlay disagreed with him.
Porti, I do not care where Gaby ends up not playing. It could just as well be Vancouver. He might as well drain the Canucks payroll
+ 18,000 and why haven’t the Sedin’s re-signed if the Nuks are so great.
Is it the Sedins or the GM? They can’t re-sign if no offers have been offer.
isn’t it time for the wild to find out what they can get for either jonson or zidlicky? the reason i mention those two is because they are the two (of the tradeable players) that the wild could get something of value for.
sorry, i cut myself off. what i wanted to say is that moving burns again has gained the wild an average forward, and cost them a top ten (in the league) defenseman.it’s time for risebrough to do something out of character, which would be to show some creativity, and get someone in here who might put one in the back of the net every once in a while, and get burns back where he belongs.
Not a good season for goaltenders. Khabibulin gets hurt.
Did anyone notice the return of the Spin-o-Turnover with about 7:35 left in the 3rd?
Old habits die hard.
What happened?
I will say this. The Dallas Stars are not really going anywhere this year so why not trade for Mike Modano someway. Its only a matter of time before Pouliot is gone
NiNY, my last remark for the night. You cannot say they gave up. They had chances right up til the last tick of the clock.
Why wasn’t it AVery who was clocked by Ohlund?
On the goal thing, once they call it a goal they need proof it did not go in which is different than proof it did got in.
And there was proof it did not go in. Not sure what you’re looking at.
sunshine, he went down to make a save and something popped or got tweaked or something. It wasn’t just like Luongo’s injury but similar. No one crashed into him or anything, it “just happened.”
There WAS clear proof that the puck didn’t go in. We never saw the puck in the back of the net. We never saw it cross over the goal line.
So it meets your criteria. NO GOAL. RIGHT CALL.
How much more proof do you need?
I cant agree with you more about Modano Kevin in PA. I know your speculating but I think its good speculation. Gaby could use a center
From Russo tomorrow:
Assistant GM Tommy Thompson said the subject hasn’t yet come up, but the team might need to discuss whether it should release Gillies to play for Team Canada in the world junior championships in Ottawa from Dec. 26 to Jan. 5.
Yes. Please. For the love of god, give the kid some playing time!
It wasn’t weird about the delay of game call penalty for being kicked out of the FO circle. Its like the double fault rule in tennis. The second serve or second guy in the FO circle has to play it safe.
Even I knew that rule. Good catch by Richards because it seemed the official wasn’t aware of it.
I didn’t say that bit about Modano. The blog was going wacko again. I could really care less about the Wild acquiring Modano.
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I wondered, Kevin…
The Wild has allowed three players in the past to play for Team Canada so there is history there.
Schultz, Bouchard, and Burns all did it and played much better after returning.
Belanger — this is the third time he has missed an open net by trying to do that stupid angle shot. Just go top shelf, for the love of God and get a goal.
Niklas Backstrom, who was fuming after the game that the Wild didn’t recognize that the bounces were going the other way and didn’t play safer
Am I the only one who finds that part interesting?
Porti, I do not care where Gaby ends up not playing. It could just as well be Vancouver. He might as well drain the Canucks payroll.
We have so much cap space, we could afford Gabby and Sundin, probably. Gillis is such a cheapskate, he’s getting goals from people like Wellwood and Burrows who are making peanuts compared to super overpaid people like Brad Richards.
Backs calling out the other players? Wow! This is a first.
His remarks reminded me of a Lemaire saying something last year about how players seem to not recognize or sense DANGER in the game and alter their play to react to it.
Why cant you imagine Modano and Gaby together Kevin ? Maybe a trade deadline
deal for a draft pick. The fans would love it !
I’ll assume that wasn’t sunshine at 11:38, but I’ll answer anyway by saying it’s not that I can’t imagine Modano and Gaborik together, it’s that I don’t care what the Wild does.
Yep not me. Modano is going to finish his career in Dallas. I want him to stay there and do that.
Plus, what’s the point if Gaby is traded anyways?
I glossed right over that, Kevin, but yeah, that’s interesting.
Anyone who will be a UFA next summer who doesn’t seem to be re-signing will get moved by the deadline. Gaborik and unfortuantely Ohlund among them. Modano will retire.
Sunshine- Modano was drafted here in Minnesota in the first round. Not sure it matters to the fans that the pro teams from Minnesota had different names
Annnnnnd we’ve pissed off the unflappable Backstrom. Son of a [redacted].
Sunshine- Modano was drafted here in Minnesota in the first round. Not sure it matters to the fans that the pro teams from Minnesota had different names
The question is, does it matter to Modano? Does he want to finish in the state where he was drafted or with the franchise that drafted him?
Last season the Canucks had a bad loss and Luongo made one comment, nothing major, about the team, but the Vancouver media went crazy because they misread it as Luongo “throwing his teammates under the bus” which he didn’t, so you have to be really careful if you criticize a teammate.
This blog is scary, why is Big John talking to sunshine saying the same things I am ?????
Kevin, Modano wants to play for a winner that can get the cup. The Wild can do that
because people are childish?
Kevin, Modano wants to play for a winner that can get the cup. The Wild can do that
Throwing up in my mouth, throwing up in my mouth, now I’m laughing, then throwing up in my mouth some more…
The Wild can do that
Because of games like tonight, right?
Also, how do you know what Modano wants? And if he wants to win a Cup, the Wild is his best option?
I missed the whole game. Putting in a water softener. Brutal game huh? Glad I missed it.
Backs is pissed? Guess I’ll wait until tomorrow so I can see what he said. Anyone got a recap?
Good night for me tonight KiPA… in the roto league anyway. 7 goals, 10 assists. Both goalies lost though.
Not bad. I only had 4-11.
Khabibulin didn’t lose. He got hurt. Huet lost.
Wild sucked it up once again. Terrible defense, terrible coaching, plus Brad Richards with one of the prettiest goals you’ll ever see result in yet another loss.
I don’t know when Leipold is planning to take an active interest in his team, but now is as good a time as any to fire Jacques and strip Risebrough of his GM title. This team is flat out embarrassing.
Did anyone notice the return of the Spin-o-Turnover with about 7:35 left in the 3rd?
Sure did. Hockeymom thought it was pretty funny when I predicted “and here comes the backhand pass to no one” before it happened.
Don’t know what was so pretty about Richards’ goal. Great shot, but he was allowed to walk in alone.
And Neal’s second goal - what’s the Don talking about? Wasn’t even close to being played with a high stick.
Hockeydad says:
November 27th, 2008 at 1:04 am
Don’t know what was so pretty about Richards’ goal. Great shot, but he was allowed to walk in alone
There is one person on this team that could make a shot like Richards did and that is Super Groin. Richards shot it over a sliding Reitz and over Backstrom’s shoulder. It couldn’t have been placed any better.
However, since there was no chance a low shot could get to the net due to Reitz sliding, if Backstrom would’ve used his head for a change, and not dropped down in his butterfly, he would’ve made the save relatively easy.
How can you say have a happy turkey day when I leave my house and the Wild are up 3-1 thinking that the stellar defensive play and goaltending should hold up then come home and see this!
Did anyone count the number of times Nolan fell last night. What the heck was going on with him?
All of the crazy ref calls or no calls aside, Richards being alowed to walk right in front of the net was terrible and resulted in a goal…I hate watching belanger on breakaways! talk about waiting too long to pull the trigger he does it every time!
Wild deserved a win last night…turco deserves to be drug out in the street and trampled by the turkey day parade while we mash pumpkin pie in his face. What kind of nail biting game will the wild give us against another losing team in the lightning?
Happy Thanksgiving Russoville!
Regardless what the Wild did last night (or will do tomorrow) this is a great place to “hang out.”
I hope each of you has a run, relaxing and safe Thanksgiving.
Nick
Back at you and yours Nick.
Happy Thanksgiving to all of you…even MKSS (Mister Knows Some Stuff)… 
The first waved goal was wrong. Called on ice, can’t see where the puck went, water bottle jumped.
One can’t be technical about the second goal and not so on the first.
+1 Kevin in PA
Spin-o-turnover: I thought of Russoville as Butch swirled before my eyes (and gave it away).
+1 kj
I really could give a carp about what Modano ‘does.’
What about shipping Gaborik to Carolina? If we got Koivu his buddy Rutuu and a pick, maybe that would be neat? Kinda like Pav and that one guy together, except Koivu has integrity and a leader’s attitude.
Thoughts?
*Disclaimer: I’m just the idea woman, I’m not up on cap-space, contracts, etc.
Awwww. Happy T-day to one and all!
I dissagree on the Koivu “NO” goal. it was called emphatically a goal on the ice, the replay IMO did NOT show “conclusive” eveidence that it wasn’t a goal. Cost us the game!
Rayraydavies says:
November 27th, 2008 at 9:50 am
What about shipping Gaborik to Carolina? If we got Koivu his buddy Rutuu and a pick, maybe that would be neat? Kinda like Pav and that one guy together, except Koivu has integrity and a leader’s attitude.
Thoughts?
*Disclaimer: I’m just the idea woman, I’m not up on cap-space, contracts, etc
Carolina has over 5M of cap space. That deal would work without a hitch. I don’t see any reason for Carolina to make that deal, but ti would work.
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