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Thoughts on Wild taking Eden Prairie’s Nick Leddy; Quotes from Chuck Fletcher, Tommy Thompson, Jordan Schroeder

Posted on June 26th, 2009 – 11:32 PM
By Michael Russo

Ha. There are always people unhappy. Open my email box now and subject “Wild cave in to Gophers pressure.” Next one: “Wild take wrong Gopher.”

First, I genuinely believe the Wild did not do the P.R. thing here and take the Minnesotan because some alienated Minnesotans wanted them to. That’d be absolutely absurd, and if something like that did happen, everybody should be fired tonight. Thompson did say other Minnesotans are in their “gun sights” Saturday, but it’s only because they’re very, very good…Guys Thompson mentioned are Budish, Mike Lee and Birkholz are available.

First-round picks are too precious, as proven by the steps back the Wild took when it blew its 2004 and 2005 first-rounders.

As I’ve been telling you for a few days, the Wild absolutely love Nick Leddy. They’ve seen him more than any draft-eligible player arguably — Tommy Thompson alone 12 times — and they wanted this dynamic player whom Chuck Fletcher called the typical “new-rules defenseman.”

I knew they valued him more than Jordan Schroeder, who as I think I mentioned yesterday, another team’s scout predicted this because they “already have Pierre-Marc Bouchard.” Unfortunately Schroeder’s size (5-8) clearly hurt as he slipped to 22.

But, there is no doubt, taking Leddy over Schroeder will create years of comparisons of their development and debates, ESPECIALLY now that Schroeder landed with the bitter Vancouver Canucks. Oh my, if Schroeder goes there and develops into a star, …

In hope you enjoyed the Twitters tonight. It was actually fun, although I probably went overboard. But it was kind of cool to break the Pronger story, predict Leddy coming to the Wild and give you play by play of the trade being made. Chuck Fletcher was working hard to trade 16, too, but he wouldn’t take the risk to drop more than five spots and everybody that offered him something was too far. As I mentioned on Twitter, Columbus GM Scott Howson sprinted to Fletcher because the Jackets wanted John Moore, but Fletcher didn’t want to drop 10 spots and risk losing Leddy.

The Jackets got Moore anyway.

Fletcher did say he was offered a player at one point for 12, but the team called back when the guy they wanted was taken. Only one trade was made in the entire league, showing it is awfully difficult making trades in this salary-cap world. A lot of teams are in lots and lots of trouble, although Fletcher hopes to commit highway robbery this summer when these overstuffed teams with cap issues look to dump guys.

Fletcher did achieve one thing. He added a third-rounder and another seventh, giving the Wild eight picks Saturday and nine total — the amount of picks the Wild had the previous two drafts.

Does this change free agency strategy now that the Wild didn’t pick up any NHLers? I’ll write about that Sunday. By the way, Fletcher would not comment on Marian Gaborik’s situation.

You can read more on Leddy in Saturday’s paper. His uncle actually was Todd Richards’ defense partner at Armstrong. I talked to Steve Leddy, whose brother Mike is Steve’s brother, and I’ll put those quotes up tomorrow.

Here’s some quotes:

Jordan Schroeder

On dropping: “My parents were very positive. They kept saying, ‘You’re going to go. We have faith in you. We love you very much, so don’t worry about it.’ The draft is just a number. It’s what you do after the draft that counts. But I’m more than excited right now. Once I was finally called, I was very relieved.”

On the Wild passing him up for Leddy: “They probably wanted a defenseman, they wanted more picks. I’m happy for Nick. He’s a great player, a great kid. Minnesota-Vancouver has a little rivalry there and I’m more than glad I’m with Vancouver.”

On Luongo calling him to the stage: ”That was an amazing experience. Him welcoming me to the team and the organization, just amazing. He’s a star in the NHL and hopefully we’ll be future teammates.”

On NJ trading to 21 and did he think American-fan Lou Lamoriello would take him: “When they traded up, I had a pretty good feeling. But it didn’t happen, so you’ve got to move on and I’m glad I’m in Vancouver.”

Tommy Thompson

Thompson

On Leddy: “I think perhaps the most difficult thing in hockey to find is a defenseman who can legitimately generate offense. And what you have to watch at the lower level of hockey to me are the guys that just try to beat people one-on-one and outskate people. They look good there but it’s hard to translate that into a higher level. This guy has hockey sense, he can move the puck, he was a winner, he competed hard. First half of the year when I was out there, there weren’t any scouts. By the Finals, there were. … He’s a later developer physically, his dad is an inch taller than him and a thick man. We’re delighted to have him.The best part of my job is watching hockey games. I like to be entertained and this guy’s fun to watch.

Schroeder? My concern from about halfway through the year is what happens if we take one of the Minnesota guys and people say it’s a public relations exercise. The one thing I was trying to assure these people and their families is if we took the player, we legitimately thought he was the best prospect in the world. … It’s a disaster if you don’t pick the best player. We’re delighted that there were some there. theyre not the two only ones that are good prospects. There’s a few more in our gun sights tomorrow. We’ll see what happens. It’s not an indictment on Jordan Schroeder at all. We like Jordan Schroeder. He was in our top group of people we would have been excited to get. I think what you look at really is it comes down to it with two really good hockey players is the job that one does, the role he can fill, is it harder to find? i think what leddy provides is the hardest thing to find … It’s not just Jordan. There were other good players on the board. We still had four other guys we were excited about were still there. that’s the essence of this job is making choices.

Chuck Fletcher

On lack of trades: There was a lot of talk and a lot of tire kicking and at the end of the day I just found it difficult to complete any, and obviously most of the teams experienced the same feeling.

Do you think there will be more later? “I was wrong with my initial prediction that there would be a lot of trades here; maybe there will be some tomorrow. That’s hard to say. I know we’ve had a lot of conversations — a lot of teams have had a lot of conversations. You would assume there would still be the possibility of some trades even going into the first few weeks of free agency. But, again, in a cap system, it seems a little bit more difficult to make trades than it was before.

Change game plan for free agency? No, not really. I thought it was really important to explore what may be out there before we go into free agency because if you make a trade, then obviously you control the asset coming back. When you get into free agency, you’re in a market where you’re bidding, so you never know whether you’ll get the player or not. But certainly there are still players available, and there will be players available in free agency. We’ll just go about trying to identify the guys we need and see how many we can get.

On Gaborik: That’s a hard question to answer. I prefer just not to comment on that right now.

On moving down: There were a lot of teams that had contacted me all week about moving up to 12 depending who was there. At the end of the day we decided to move back and take a couple additional picks. The last two years we’ve had nine picks combined, and now we have nine this year. I felt it was very important to us to add more picks so we could restock the cupboards and restock our talent pool. This will give us a chance to draft a lot of kids tomorrow.

Could you have gotten player for 12th? There was one scenario where a team had discussed moving us a player for the pick outright, but they called back after one of the earlier picks and said their player had been taken. There was a lot of teams interested depending on who fell to 12, but the majority of talks were all centered around draft picks.

On trying to move 16: “We had calls, but the teams that were calling were a little too far back. Nick was the guy we had identified, and we decided, ‘Why take the risk?’

Did you take leddy because he’s from minnesota? “Not at all. Again, first-round picks are so precious; you have to take the best asset available and Nick is a prototypical new-rules defenseman. He can skate, he can handle the puck, he’s going to have the ability to play on the power play, he’s a competitive kid. He’s going to have to get a little stronger, but the great thing is that going to the University of Minnesota, he’ll have that ability to get stronger over the next couple of seasons. But the things he does well, you can’t teach — intelligence and skill. Those are the type of defenseman that every contending team needs.

Good night.

42 Responses to "Thoughts on Wild taking Eden Prairie’s Nick Leddy; Quotes from Chuck Fletcher, Tommy Thompson, Jordan Schroeder"

agreathockeymind says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:01 am

I wonder who the player was that was offered stright up for #12.

GreenStar says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:08 am

i guess the bloom is off the rose from skimming over the last blog.

Chris in CA says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:15 am

Somebody better comment on Gabby, what the hell is going on with him? We’d like to know…

AustinTXwildfan says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:17 am

Damn… Ashton went to the Lightning.

Mister Know it all says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:18 am

Please please please. Dont insult Mister Know it alls intelligence. Yes Nick Leddy was drafted because he was from Minnesota. The fact is its a crap shoot between the 10th to the 31st draft pick in the 1st round

The question is Mike…. What do the Wild have to lose by picking a Minnesota player in the 16th overall spot. The Wild have now drafted a Minnesota player but if this scenario happens in next year Mike, dont look for the Wild to be inclined to pick a first round choice from Minnesota.

You asked Fletcher an insipid question Mike that he had to answer the way he did

Konger says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:19 am

russo your the best, appreciate your work that you did for us Wild Rubes!

sunshine says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:19 am

Maybe there is nothing to going on so there is nothing to comment.

The Moose-Shaped Crystal Ball says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:25 am

Gabby owns two houses…in a declining real estate market. He is not happy.

Mister Know it all says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:26 am

Chris in CA. Gaby is gone and tampering charges will be filed and we will know nothing that is going on becasue of it.

Salcer is a bad apple. I dont blame Gaby because he is a young hockey player. I blame Salcer. He has bad character and this is for sure. Salcer would likely say to my alegations, oh Mister Know it all does not know what the heck he is talking about, this is just business and how this is done. If I did business the way you suggest none of the top players would come to me

Mister Know it all says. The way you do business Salcer suggests that your clients will like you now but they wont go your funeral

The Moose-Shaped Crystal Ball says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:28 am

for the record: i agree with MKIA

MNBrew says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:28 am

CiCa, we’d all like to know about Gabby. This close to FA, if Fletch declines comment about Gabby, you’ve gotta know there’s a darn good reason for his doing so.

For the next 5 or whatever days before FA begins, if nothing’s changed with Gaborik, why say AGAIN what’s already been said countless times?

If it were after July 1 and he still gave no comment, that’d be different.

If Gaborik doesn’t want to return here, it won’t matter how hard Fletch tries or how much he offers, comments, etc. It takes two to tango.

Iginla50goals says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:28 am

Dont insult Mister Know it alls intelligence.

Fortunately for you, there’s not much there to insult.

M 03 says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:30 am

Michael - a genuine thank you for your tireless work on day one of the draft. With great appreciation, kudos.

MNBrew says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:31 am

Oh, and I’m still hopeful for some sort of Day 2 player acquisition (i.e., a trade) by the Wild.

Silly me.

Mister Know it all says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:34 am

You are really a genius for coming up with that one Iginla, did your 4 year old niece tell you to say that one ??

Seamus says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:34 am

I think it’s pretty plausible that Leddy was scouted more extensively by the Wild than other teams, since he’s right in our neck of the woods, and having this insight, he was higher on the Wild’s list than most. Does this seem reasonable? I’m going to go ahead and give Fletch et al the benefit of the doubt here, and praise him for picking up two extra picks for nothing.

Ryan says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:35 am

Safe to say Gabby is probably gone. If the reports are true that he’s bought a house in Vancouver I don’t see anyway he returns. I’m assuming Demitra was the go between so there would be no way you could bust them for tampering. We will see but it doesn’t look good.

Chris in CA says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:36 am

Well I would like to know if they are talking at all like he said he was going to sit down and do. I don’t think its wrong to come out with it and say no they’re not talking and Gabby wants to leave. That is fine. I just need answers.

M 03 says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:45 am

NiNY: previous thread - succint slap of the hand, thanks.

sunshine says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:45 am

Well, Salcer did confirm that they have had one conversation earlier this week. If its true that the Wild were one of the final 3 -4 in the Heatley sweepstakes, then it would indicate that Gaborik has rejected the offer.

But really, at this point, its safe to say that Gaborik isn’t going to re-sign because he wants to test FA.

nunya says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:47 am

“You can read more on Leddy in Saturday’s paper. His uncle actually was Todd Richards’ defense partner at Armstrong. I talked to Steve Leddy, whose brother Mike is Steve’s brother, and I’ll put those quotes up tomorrow.”

You don’t say huh Russo? Steve’s brother Mike is Steve’s brother?

I’ll let it slide this time, on account of a long day for ya today.

Iginla50goals says:

June 27th, 2009 at 12:54 am

You are really a genius for coming up with that one Iginla, did your 4 year old niece tell you to say that one ??

You caught me. Even my little niece could tell you have the intelligence of a mildly retarded monkey. :-)

Intoblivion says:

June 27th, 2009 at 1:10 am

Sounds an awful lot like drafting for need when specifically avoiding a player in PMB mold. We’ll see how it plays out, but Schroeder pretty much a guaranteed success now.

Chris in CA says:

June 27th, 2009 at 1:10 am

Gillis says he expects to sign the Sedins so I don’t know where they’ll get the cap for Gabby.

Ryan says:

June 27th, 2009 at 1:21 am

Where did you read that we’d sign the sedins? That would be sweet please source it

kjr says:

June 27th, 2009 at 2:14 am

startin to look like the TEAM OF 13,000

Stoned on the Breakaway says:

June 27th, 2009 at 7:14 am

—i guess the bloom is off the rose from skimming over the last blog.—

I get the feeling The Don has been leaving coupons for free chicken wings at the entrance to every trailer park in town.

Brrrian says:

June 27th, 2009 at 8:19 am

Comment from Fletch last night from NHLRadio is that he sees Gaborik going to FA since he’s already come this far. Doesn’t ness. rule out re-signing (yeah it does) but he is going to test the market.
Even in this so-called “deep draft pool”, picks after 10 are a crap-shoot-but you can’t honestly, HONESTLY, tell me that Leddy was the best available at 16…

Brrrian says:

June 27th, 2009 at 8:21 am

It IS a P.R. stunt just like the promise of a more up-tempo system.

wild1 says:

June 27th, 2009 at 8:26 am

wow bashing the new gm already and the draft is’nt even done yet that’s what i call team support :)

M 03 says:

June 27th, 2009 at 8:27 am

harding still with the wild this morning?
kj: thanks for draft pick update (soon after my buddy J & I got to the MMC). Great gig. My buddies said - we’ve got to hear them (100WJ) again. Have a great road trip with the family.
How was the draft party @ TRHCP?

wild1 says:

June 27th, 2009 at 8:29 am

ugh! why the hate for mkia that’s not cool, he’s pretty smart.

wild1 says:

June 27th, 2009 at 8:31 am

sorry that last comment was for Iginla50

Boomer says:

June 27th, 2009 at 8:52 am

Nothing wrong with Leddy, just seems like a stretch to take him at 16 based on the national scouting publications. 3-4 years from now we’ll know if the Wild’s local scouting of him paid off.

There are some pretty glum posts this morning. Wasn’t like Fletcher was sitting on his hands as players were being traded all around him. There was one player for player trade yesterday.

Trades are obviously difficult to swing the NHL. This isn’t NHL09 and the ability of every twit to post the rumor they heard from the mailman doesn’t help ‘manage’ the expectations of fans.

Gaborik is going to FA on July 1st. Unless Flether is going to throw a ‘Detroit Decade’ offer at him, he would be stupid to not see what he can get on the open market.

wild1 says:

June 27th, 2009 at 8:56 am

boomer i agree completly people are being a little harse.

wild1 says:

June 27th, 2009 at 8:57 am

hey ms c what’s your opionion on all this youalway’s have good point’s:)

Five Forward System says:

June 27th, 2009 at 8:59 am

Tweet: Russostrib Sources: Wild not out of Heatley sweepstakes; Ottawa still wants to move him by July 1. Lots to this, more later, in tomorrow’s paper

Saladin says:

June 27th, 2009 at 9:00 am

TT, if you are expecting Nick Leddy to grow, you may be right, or you may be disappointed. Because the wife’s genes also come into play. I am 6′4″, my wife 5′4″. My 19 year-old son is about the size of Nick. You can’t teach size, and size matters in the NHL.

Nick Leddy is a fine pick, just not that early in the first round. Or even in the first round. Particularly considering the level of talent he played against, versus virtually all others (except the Andover kid) in the first round.

Interesting to see Gaborik’s brother, or dad, whoever that was, at the draft table.

lj mckay says:

June 27th, 2009 at 9:06 am

Reid’s last night was o.k.-
Not anywhere full as I thought it might be after being ‘featured’ on this blog…
They had a table at the entrance with Official Wild draft guides, prospect reports, Central Scouting rankings, and latest Hockey News rankings. Was pretty nice-
Crowd was very quiet at #12, until it was obivious they were trading down, then everyone just went back to talking….no cheers or boos…
Folks around me were upset at no Schroeder….not unhappy w/Leddy…I think he just isn’t as well known a commodity as Schroeder is….yet.
I’m good with it so far…..

Saladin says:

June 27th, 2009 at 9:06 am

No to Heatley. Two teams already in his brief career should tell you something. And now wanting to go to a 3rd. Also, whoever picks him up has to pick up the $4MM. The Wild don’t need to waste that money. It would be irresponsible.

Also, the commentary on Richards & Leddy’s uncle or whoever, says volumes IMO that this was a homer, appease the locals pick.

Five Forward System says:

June 27th, 2009 at 9:09 am

Does getting Leddy make it easier to trade Cuma to OTT?