Sources: Sifers on waivers
Posted on October 19th, 2009 – 11:32 AMBy Michael Russo
According to sources, the Wild had placed defenseman Jaime Sifers on waivers with the intention of sending him to AHL Houston.
The Wild needs to create a roster spot, and the team is probably convinced John Scott would be claimed in a heartbeat because of the fighting dimension.
Here’s a good Chuck Kobasew column written by Luke DeCock of the Raleigh News Observer.
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Oh excellent!
Is that good or bad, Ms. C.?
Well, the Sifers experiment was short lived here in Minny. Have fun with him Ms. C. Seems promising.
What? But he’s been so … good at making popcorn.
I like it…first “element” Scott brings to the ice, now it is “dimension”. I think their estimation is correct.
Interesting that they sent Sifers and not Hilbert or Smith. I guess they actually do see him as a defensemen and they have Scott to fill that 7th d-man role.
From the previous blog:
Mister Know it all says:
October 18th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
wait a second,I did not realize they put Fallstrom in the deal… hmmm this deal looks more like Fletcher and Leipold try to save their asses. Russo did not post that tidbit of valuable info
Umm….Unless you can’t read MKVN, this information was in the previous update Russo gave….Oh, wait MKVN=very insane Troll
Good. He’s a proven d-man in the AHL. We need him.
Stupid italics not going away! 
pulled a geno and posted on back end of last blog
weller isn’t freeing up caps space but improving CL bank balance, yes?
SRV better pick up the pace if he is to be the 20 goal scorer some think he will be
thru 7 games
0-1-1 14pm -2
fedoruk has more goals and played 1 less game.
goaltender antero niittymaki has as many points in 3 games.
did you guys see Al Muir’s article in SI about this trade yet? Verrrry interesting…
basically “wondering” if there wasn’t some Machiavellian thinking behind Chiarelli “helping” the Wild - and protecting his potential #1 overall pick from Toronto, in the process.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/allan_muir/10/19/kobasew.trade.wild/index.html
Speaking of trades- does anyone remember who we got when we traded the beloved Manny Frenandez?
also points out in that article that we chose Fallstrom with one of the picks we got for Manny…in the trade with Boston…
If Kobasew ends up on our 1st line (not likely) or 2nd line (most likely), I guess we’re officially a bad team. Per Russo’s scouting report “Kobasew is a third liner on a good team or could be a 2nd liner on a bad team”.
I guess it’s a fine trade but considering we are not likely to be a playoff team, I’d rather see us stock pile draft picks.
smuggla…we got the crazy one down in houston…klaus
That is an Interesting article NiNY…
exactly Argonbeast0034, So answer me this- Petr Kalus has been on Houston for the last 3 years- Why hasn’t the Wild let him come up here and play a real NHL game?
Don’t they realize Kalus was a former first round draft pick? Don’t they realize that when he was with the Bruins he scored on his first 3 shots on goal in an NHL game?
Just another example of how the Wild has their heads completely up their collective asses!!!
Perhaps this goes without saying, perhaps not, But I want to state that no matter what our season turns out to look like, and no matter what our record ends up being, DO NOT fire the coach!
I would imagine there are Wild fans out there who’ve had that thought enter their minds, but I think this season should be considered a rebuilding year. We need picks, we need talent. We want to play an uptempo system but we don’t have the uptempo pieces for that system just yet.
A downright terrible year might just be what the doctor ordered. There I said it.
IMO, I disagree with you Smuggla. Kalus hasn’t earned the chance to play a regular shift in the N.
Also didn’t Kalus quit last year when the Wild sent him to Houston and then he ended up back over in Europe? Perhaps I am wrong, it’s happened before.
Puck- are you suggesting that the Wild start trying to lose so that they can get the best possible draft picks in next year’s NHL draft?
and that pick…..so technicly speaking we traded manny fernandez, craig weller, and a second pick for kobesew, and klaus….
honestly kobe is the best player there…and remember the line form the article just posted by NiNY…..the 2011 class looks very thin…..that right there makes this trade even better…..
the fire sale at the end will give us a crap ton of picks/prospects….so one pick going away isn’t that big of a deal…
I love quantity, but quality is far more important….
HA! it’ll be hard to be worse than Toronto but finishing 29th sure would give us a shot at a pretty good pick.
I’d rather see us stock pile draft picks
the SI article says 2011 is a weak draft
yeah klaus quit last year…..
and he hasn’t shown much yet….very pouliot like…..so far anyway
on a completly unrelated note, venture bros 4th season started, and I am completly ecstatic…..
watched the first episode this morning on adultswim.com….fantastic! I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again….best show on adult swim…period.
ms. c…let us know when klaus deserves a call up…..since you are the eyes and ears…
I know….that means not watching the goalies ONCE in a while….but it is for the masses!
@Puck
I think you’re speaking on behalf of the majority of intelligent Wild fans, and apparently, Chiarelli as well.
IMO, The worst scenario for the Wild out of this season is finishing in the middle of the pack. Hopefully we can garner a top 5 draft pick, depending on how the lottery goes.
I like the moves CF and TR have made so far. Havlat, Siki, and now Kobasew. Next year we should have some more cap room if/when Yawnson and hopefully PMB are gone. It’ll take awhile to get away from hole DR has dug, look at Calgary, but Fletch has been impressive so far, and hopefully he’ll have many more assets after this season is over with.
—SRV better pick up the pace if he is to be the 20 goal scorer some think he will be—
Interesting. And as long as we’re playing that game, let’s check out Koba:
7GP 0G 1A 1PT -2 2PIM. But you do have 3 times the salary so you got that goin’ for ya’.
It looks like SRV has moved up on the depth charts to wing with Stamkos and Tanquay. Maybe that will help.
Geez G*. You used to be a voice of reason around here. Head injury over the summer?
Nick, Nice SI pull. I have to wonder though if that sort of strategery would be more effectively played nearer the trade deadline than 7 games into the season. I mean, if that’s what he was thinking, it’s pretty shrewd, but if it were me, I’d have done that in February, not October.
If Scott brings the fighting dimension, then its time to get rid of Boogey. Why do we need two? Scott can play wing as good/better than Boogey, and Boogey can’t play defense. I don’t give a crap if the fans and Russo love Boogey. The best players should be on the team.
Green*: correct on your assessment of Weller and cap space. Weller wasn’t taking up cap space but checkbook space.
The SI take on Bruins stategy — wouldn’t you say that would be the case if it was a 2010 pick instead of 2011?
saladin- we need two goons so that when one is in the box for fighting- we can send the second one out there to kick some more ass!
I say the more goons the better- if the Wild can’t win the games, might as well make it entertaining for the fans with more fights!!!!
Stoned, there is no place on Russo’s Rants for a self proclaimed band wagon fan. You are exactly what is wrong with MN sports fans. Yuck. 
I think it is a little premature for people to start saying “The 2011 draft class looks weak etc.” Those kids are 16 right now. I like the move for kobe. I don’t necessarily agree with the “3rd liner on a good team, 2nd liner on a bad team.” Every scouting report I have looked at says he’s a top 6 forward. Sure, he might play 3rd line in Philly, SJ, Detroit. From what I have watched there isn’t a team in the NW Division that wouldn’t play him on the 2nd line.
Happened to catch NHL Live on XM during lunch and Bob McKenzie was on. His take on the Kobasew trade was brand new coach/GM + losing record needing infusion and Bruins needing cap space.
sunshine -
Boston has Toronto’s 2010 #1 (from the Kessel deal?) It’s about the Toronto/Boston deal, not the Wild/Boston deal.
Kind of a cool piece by Muir - you don’t see a Golden Seals reference every day - but gaming the draft 7 games into the season is getting into tinfoil hat territory, IMHO…
smuggla says:
October 19th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Don’t they realize Kalus was a former first round draft pick? Don’t they realize that when he was with the Bruins he scored on his first 3 shots on goal in an NHL game?
I seem to recall that K Foster scored on his first shot in the NHL and like many call ups had a ferocious start. Though they all seem to fall back to the player they will be.
I’ve speculated on this phenomenon before. Maybe they’re pushing themselves at a pace they can’t keep up to try to stay in the NHL? Maybe the other team doesn’t respect them “oh, it’s the callup, he’s nothing” as opposed to “oh s&$*, not that guy, don’t let that guy have the puck!”? Maybe it’s kind of a professional respect “take it a little easy on the new kid”? I don’t know, but the list of hot starts followed by a cool down is long.
ah yes, Goody, I remember that K Foster goal. I think that prompted Dumb and Dumber to giggle and call him “the cannon” every time he touched the puck, even though he never really scored much after that shot…
RIK:
Yah, I know. It was one of the biggest and most questioned deals of the summer.
But the 2nd rounder we gave away was a 2011 pick not a 2010 pick.
I guess I will answer my own question — So Boston is playing for the long haul. Hoping that Kobasew will keep us ahead of Toronto just not this year but next year, too.
And a thread just wouldn’t be a thread without sala-dim aka the Boogey basher.
I don’t give a crap if the fans and Russo love Boogey. The best players should be on the team.
We seem to have the “best players” in spades. So much so that we just made a trade for a guy from Boston (you may have read about it here recently). Even in your wildest bashing fantasy, come up for air once in a while and realize we need warm bodies that play on the professional level at this point.
Not your cares or concerns.
Besides, I’m hoping he has that ice time and gets a chance to do what McGrattan did last week with a Gordie Howe hatty….
The SI take on Bruins stategy — wouldn’t you say that would be the case if it was a 2010 pick instead of 2011?
NO. They have Toronto’s 2010 1st round pick so they want Toronto to be last and stay last.
“I have to wonder though if that sort of strategery would be more effectively played nearer the trade deadline than 7 games into the season. I mean, if that’s what he was thinking, it’s pretty shrewd, but if it were me, I’d have done that in February, not October.”
Reason #12 why this move smells a little desparate. Not a bad move necessarily (time will obviously tell), but not a move made from a position of power. If the Chiarella conspiracy theory makes the kool-aid go down better so be it.
If CF doesn’t give TR some help it’s possible that this season turns into a ball of flames by the All-Star break.
Best quote in today’s hockey reading material:
(in speaking of the coyotes and their current record)
“But these Coyotes, man. They’re a machine gun emplacement and they’re just waiting for teams to poke their heads out of a foxhole.”
-Ryan Lambert on Yahoo sports.
Pewt - I was saying that from Chiarelli’s POV. It makes more sense to try to bury Toronto in February than October.
I wonder who initiated the trade. Was CF calling around and Boston saw an opportunity, or was Boston trying to unload Kobasew, or was Boston looking to improve Toronto’s main lottery competitor? (The last doesn’t make sense because it’s so early in the season.)
Maybe the SI take would/will have more credence if/when Boston sends a good player to the Islanders.
Geez G*. You used to be a voice of reason around here. Head injury over the summer?
no head injury but i have given into the reality that I will never have Marney in my life.
I think the second one stranger
G*, get your wife to dress up as Marney for Halloween.
Then you just have to get her to wear the costume the other 364 days of the year.
but gaming the draft 7 games into the season is getting into tinfoil hat territory, IMHO…
great line…still giggling
I guess I will answer my own question — So Boston is playing for the long haul. Hoping that Kobasew will keep us ahead of Toronto just not this year but next year, too.
sunshine, the Bs only need the Buds to finish 30th THIS year, as they own their 2010 first round pick.
So they “give” us a player that helps us (be better than the Buds, thus increasing the chances that Toronto finishes last overall) this year in Kobasew.
The 2011 2nd (not to mention Fallstrom) have no bearing on the strategy, as far as the article is concerned.
as far as the 2011 pick is concerned, the Bruins only want us to be worst in the league NEXT year (’10-11)…NOT this year.
But the 2nd rounder next year is less-important to them than Toronto’s 1st rounder this (2010) draft.
I’m sure toronto fans are extatic that their teams first round pick is talked about like the holy grail….and I am sure they are equally stoked about not having it.
How about we trade all of our players for 24 first round picks, have the Wild be Houston North this year and have next year be the all-rookie team? I can taste the cup already…
G*, get your wife to dress up as Marney for Halloween
no wife. ATX was supposed to send me up a lawyer type gal. still waiting
Russo wrote: “Here’s a good Chuck Kobasew column written by Luke DeCock of the Raleigh News Observer.”
Wow, what a last name…
no wife. ATX was supposed to send me up a lawyer type gal. still waiting
Well that’s a problem. Got a sister?
Barring that, I’m sure PMB has some extra time. He’d look great in a Marney wig.
Toronto gave up a 1st and 2nd round pick in 2010 and a 1st round pick in 2011 in exchange for Phil Kessel. If the Buds come in dead last this year and next then the B’s get a lottery pick TWO years in a row. That is why I was scratching my head over the Kessel trade. The media and fans will eat Burkie alive if this happens.
G*, the best prospect we had moved on up to Seattle… sorry.
The media and fans will eat Burkie alive if this happens.
I’m mildly surprised they haven’t demanded the return of Pat Quinn yet.
“so technicly speaking we traded manny fernandez, craig weller, and a second pick for kobesew, and klaus….”
Don’t forget Kevin Bacon.
“but gaming the draft 7 games into the season is getting into tinfoil hat territory, IMHO”
Very solid. Thanks for that.
“If CF doesn’t give TR some help it’s possible that this season turns into a ball of flames by the All-Star break.”
And by this I mean the Room turns very apathetic and in-fighting ensues.
Yes, I went MKiA on y’all and commented on my own post.
Afternoon hattie.
Exactly how has Fletcher been been successful so far. If he would have convinced Gabby to stay, that would have been a success. To get an often injury Havlat hardly defines success.
I do not think Toronto will finish last. Kessel will add some scoring and Toronto does have some talent on the roster. But they are very Wild like with their depth…or lack thereof.
Does anyone know how long a player has to be out when they get put on LTIR?
For example, if you are on IR, you can’t play for two weeks. What is LTIR? Two months? More? I’m trying to figure out how and when Bouchard could possibly come back.
no head injury but i have given into the reality that I will never have Marney in my life.
That’s sad, G*! But it does explain your melancholy lately…
Go4it, agreed. I’ve never understood all the Russotan’s saying “I trust CF to do what’s right, blah, blah”.
That’s why the Lake Kobesew trade will be a good barometer of CF’s acumen. I’m not expecting Kob to come in a put the team on his back, but if he comes in a performs like a ham n egg grinder, I’m a little pissed.
Bro’s B4 Hoes has been a nice surprise (assuming he doesn’t pull a Miettenen).
Make it two for two CF.
(Defensemen widgets don’t count in the CF performance analysis. Every year we bring in 3-4 Dman placeholders and we send off 3-4)
Does anyone know how long a player has to be out when they get put on LTIR?
I read over at HFBoards that it is 10 games or 25 (maybe it’s 20… don’t remember) days, whichever comes first.
10 games and 24 days…so by oct. 27…but he’ll be out longer.
Food, and very sad food at that.
I wonder how long we can keep using this before they make it read-only.
