Comments on: That’s 4-14 after 113-84 loss at New Jersey http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/ The latest on the Minnesota Timberwolves Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:30:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: willhill42 http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7471 willhill42 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:06:51 +0000 http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7471 just wondering what the mchale man hug means. is this something he does on a regular basis or was it a good bye hug? never has a man hug excited me this much! just wondering what the mchale man hug means. is this something he does on a regular basis or was it a good bye hug? never has a man hug excited me this much!

]]> By: willhill42 http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7470 willhill42 Sun, 07 Dec 2008 16:05:25 +0000 http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7470 deng cant be moved for a little while and he has a trade kicker in his contract that im sure the bulls wont pay. deng cant be moved for a little while and he has a trade kicker in his contract that im sure the bulls wont pay.

]]> By: Mike http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7453 Mike Sun, 07 Dec 2008 03:18:13 +0000 http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7453 Al Jefferson to the Bulls, Luol Deng, Joakim Noah, and Tyrus Thomas or Sefelosha to the Wolves. Wolves get longer and more athletic. Love starts at PF. Bulls, with no post scoring and no cap flexibility, would do this. You can gush on Jefferson's offensive ability all you want, but he does not play a lick of defense. He is slow as an ox, and never seems to see guys streaking into the lane to help. Love will maybe not have the post moves and soft hands Jefferson has, but he is a smarter player and will be better and cheaper than Jefferson. The experiment is over...Love and Jefferson and too slow and undersized to be a front line. You can only keep one of them. Long term Jefferson is the weaker link. Deng has a slightly better contract than Jefferson, and more upside. Al Jefferson to the Bulls, Luol Deng, Joakim Noah, and Tyrus Thomas or Sefelosha to the Wolves. Wolves get longer and more athletic. Love starts at PF. Bulls, with no post scoring and no cap flexibility, would do this.

You can gush on Jefferson’s offensive ability all you want, but he does not play a lick of defense. He is slow as an ox, and never seems to see guys streaking into the lane to help. Love will maybe not have the post moves and soft hands Jefferson has, but he is a smarter player and will be better and cheaper than Jefferson.

The experiment is over…Love and Jefferson and too slow and undersized to be a front line. You can only keep one of them. Long term Jefferson is the weaker link. Deng has a slightly better contract than Jefferson, and more upside.

]]> By: Bryan http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7434 Bryan Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:01:20 +0000 http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7434 Charles Barkley has said several times the last few years he's looking to run a team. Dunno how good he'd be at it, but he can't possibly be worse than McHale. His analysis on TNT at least shows he's in touch with the state of the league. And yes, a big big part of anyone trying to get Millsap will be expedience. If he keeps up at the pace he's going at, pretty quick the Jazz will decide he's the future of their power forward spot and then they won't trade him to anyone. Charles Barkley has said several times the last few years he’s looking to run a team. Dunno how good he’d be at it, but he can’t possibly be worse than McHale. His analysis on TNT at least shows he’s in touch with the state of the league.

And yes, a big big part of anyone trying to get Millsap will be expedience. If he keeps up at the pace he’s going at, pretty quick the Jazz will decide he’s the future of their power forward spot and then they won’t trade him to anyone.

]]> By: BC.Beneke http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7432 BC.Beneke Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:54:01 +0000 http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7432 I almost think that if we brought in a team of complete NON BASKETBALL EXECS... just business leaders from outside of basketball that they could do a ten times better job than the so called basketball experts we have here. So I don't mind if someone throws out an idea outside the box as long as it's backed up with a real idea. I almost think that if we brought in a team of complete NON BASKETBALL EXECS… just business leaders from outside of basketball that they could do a ten times better job than the so called basketball experts we have here.

So I don’t mind if someone throws out an idea outside the box as long as it’s backed up with a real idea.

]]> By: BC.Beneke http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7431 BC.Beneke Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:51:14 +0000 http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7431 We know that Avery is out there for a head coach if we wanted to shell out the cash. What else is out there, and what/who could we bring in to the front office to actually call it a front office and not the toilet that it really is right now? We know that Avery is out there for a head coach if we wanted to shell out the cash.

What else is out there, and what/who could we bring in to the front office to actually call it a front office and not the toilet that it really is right now?

]]> By: Chris http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7430 Chris Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:26:23 +0000 http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7430 I have a trade: McHale for a six pack, lol. Just kidding. I would start all over, Trade everybody, even Jefferson and then get a new front offiice and let them rebuild for real. I have a trade:

McHale for a six pack, lol. Just kidding.

I would start all over, Trade everybody, even Jefferson and then get a new front offiice and let them rebuild for real.

]]> By: willhill42 http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7429 willhill42 Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:57:46 +0000 http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7429 i vote bryan for new gm of the timberwolves. i guarantee that no other front office employee has done as much home work as bryan has. i vote bryan for new gm of the timberwolves. i guarantee that no other front office employee has done as much home work as bryan has.

]]> By: bert http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7428 bert Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:20:08 +0000 http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7428 Bryan, That is a decent looking 4 team trade, but I am not sure that Utah would give up Milsap for taking Love and Haslem. The one problem for the Wolves is that ideally Milsap and Al play the 4. At this point the Wolves can't get much worse so I am game for ANYTHING. It looks like our only hope is riding on our lottery pick for next year, but we have a lot of competition for the top spots in the draft. Bryan,

That is a decent looking 4 team trade, but I am not sure that Utah would give up Milsap for taking Love and Haslem. The one problem for the Wolves is that ideally Milsap and Al play the 4. At this point the Wolves can’t get much worse so I am game for ANYTHING.

It looks like our only hope is riding on our lottery pick for next year, but we have a lot of competition for the top spots in the draft.

]]> By: medschoolmatt http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7427 medschoolmatt Sat, 06 Dec 2008 21:51:33 +0000 http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2008/12/05/thats-4-14-after-113-84-loss-at-new-jersey/#comment-7427 Milsap does look quite impressive. If he could put up those kind of numbers here, we'd be fine then. Miller would need to stay healthy, and Al would need to continue his pace. Conley would need to show me more though, and from what you've said I agree he has lots of talent. Darko could give us a tiny bit of scoring punch and size, and Warrick will jump out of the building like you said. Dare I say, if such a trade were to happen, we could shop a 2nd rounder and a late 1st rounder (I'd hope it wouldn't take more) for someone who could score like a Channing Frye or Outlaw. We'll have to wait and see. From what I've seen, the draft this year looks pretty deep, and if we could land some of the guys you mentioned I think we'd be fine. My only issue is Love - i think he could do some good things, and while he's not as athletic as Milsap, he could definitely put up similar numbers and learn to play within himself. He's already shown flashes, and has lots of energy. I would miss Foye and somewhat miss the Rhyno, but could live without them for the right price. Here's hoping. Milsap does look quite impressive. If he could put up those kind of numbers here, we’d be fine then. Miller would need to stay healthy, and Al would need to continue his pace. Conley would need to show me more though, and from what you’ve said I agree he has lots of talent.

Darko could give us a tiny bit of scoring punch and size, and Warrick will jump out of the building like you said. Dare I say, if such a trade were to happen, we could shop a 2nd rounder and a late 1st rounder (I’d hope it wouldn’t take more) for someone who could score like a Channing Frye or Outlaw.

We’ll have to wait and see. From what I’ve seen, the draft this year looks pretty deep, and if we could land some of the guys you mentioned I think we’d be fine.

My only issue is Love - i think he could do some good things, and while he’s not as athletic as Milsap, he could definitely put up similar numbers and learn to play within himself. He’s already shown flashes, and has lots of energy. I would miss Foye and somewhat miss the Rhyno, but could live without them for the right price.

Here’s hoping.

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