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Wolves lose ninth straight, 98-86, in L.A.

Posted on December 15th, 2008 – 12:55 AM
By Jerry Zgoda

This season is only 23 games old, but already the Wolves have done something they didn’t do all last season, when they won just 22 times and lost 60:

They’ve lost nine consecutive games.

The Wolves’ longest streak last season was eight.

The Wolves haven’t won since Mike Miller’s buzzer-beater won at Oklahoma City on Nov. 28.

That was 17 days and, of course, nine games ago.

This time, the Wolves were undone by their poor shooting (36 percent), 17 turnovers and a 14-5 Lakers run — featuring not Kobe Bryant or Pau Gasol or Lamar Odom, but Jordan Farmar — that ended the third quarter, began the fourth and turned a tied score at 57 into a 71-62 lead the Lakers never relinquished.

Afterward, Kevin McHale said his team is not yet mentally or physically prepared to push the ball the way he wants them to play. He wants them to push the ball at every chance not in an attempt to become a fast-break scoring team but rather to get into the ball to Al Jefferson in the post and get into their offense with, say, 18 seconds left on the shot clock rather than eight.

“We’re not sprinting it down to shoot it, we’re sprinting it down to play inside-out,”McHale said. “If you drop it inside with Al, they double team. If you have 18 seconds, you can really do some stuff. If you have eight, you don’t have much time.”

About the only break in a tough schedule that has included games against Denver, San Antonio and the Lakers in the last three and Cleveland upcoming on Wednesday is Monday’s game at Sacramento.

98 Responses to "Wolves lose ninth straight, 98-86, in L.A."

Bryan says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:16 am

I like the idea of pushing the ball, but an improper mentality isn’t the problem. Our problem is the wrong personnel…our bigs aren’t athletic enough to run the court, our guards (except for Bassy) aren’t creative enough to make plays on the fastbreak anyway.

I’m starting to wonder if there’s a bigger problem with Foye than simply being out of position though. It’s gotten to a point where he’s literally not contributing anything out there. He’s just on the floor as an extra body…for every assists, there’s a turnover, for every made shot, there’s two or three or six misses. And he’s not playing particularly strong defense either. If nothing else, he should at least be hitting his shots. A few bad games is understandable, but he’s been off all season.

Other than that, I just hope that the team isn’t so fixated on proving that this roster can cut it that they don’t consider any trades. There’s a lot of potential bargain deal rumors out there. I’d be a shame if we miss out on the kind of deal that landed the Hornets Antonio Daniels.

jama says:

December 15th, 2008 at 8:32 am

If the Wolves don’t win tonight against Sactown they most likely won’t win a game until after Christmas.

Adam says:

December 15th, 2008 at 9:30 am

Jerry, man o man are we in trouble here in Twin Cities as we watch our team fall into the deep abyss of LOSERVILLE with McFail as our leader, I have finally came to the reality that we need change NOW. Theres no time like the present and with that SCREWBALL(McFAIL) touching our team make me sick. He has really done the dandy on this squad. We also need a trade like NOW! McCants is a total LOSER. Every time that guy touch the ball i just have to laugh. Funny I’m already feeling summer again….Anyone else?

jballer13 says:

December 15th, 2008 at 9:47 am

Bryan I agree on Foye… especially after watching the game last night. He made too many mental mistakes last night. There were multiple times last night where one of our bigs would get a defensive rebound and he would immediately release, looking for a break away score instead of getting an outlet from them and bringing it up like a PG is supposed to do. I don’t know how many times Miller, Gomes, or McCants would have to help out Al or KLove and bring the ball up b/c Randy was already at the other end. It’s one thing to struggle with running the offense but to watch him completely forget how to play the position is pretty disheartening.

The one positive thing I saw about last night’s game was McCants. He clearly played the toughest D on Kobe last night. It’s like he finally decided to try and he definitely held his own for the 8-12 minutes he was guarding him. Also, he finally started hitting some open shots. Hopefully he starts to shake off the horrible start he’s had and continues to provide valuable minutes.

Overall, this team is proving how young it is by making far too many stupid mistakes, which I understand will happen against the best team in the conference. I like that McHale is sticking with them and letting the kids learn out there but like Bryan said, hopefully they consider making some trades and mixing this roster up a little bit.

Roberto El Doucho says:

December 15th, 2008 at 10:03 am

It’s really a shame that the wolves have deviated from their usual “fast Starts.”

I’m beginning to think they may not make the playoffs, ruining their historical run.

Perhaps Taylor should consider a contract extension offer to McHale. I think the players would respond positively to a gutsy move like that, and they would have one less thing to distract them. I know they would be proud to play for a guy who has consistently made the right decisions. Not to mention the “best GM” according to some no factor magazine.

Do I hear TEN?

I do, I do!!

dead end alley says:

December 15th, 2008 at 10:32 am

Foye had a pretty rough one yesterday for sure. I really don’t think he’s the problem though. if you look at his last 5 games he’s been stepping up pretty solidly. our main problems are as follows: no interior defense, no 3 point shooting, no 2nd offensive threat at either the shooting guard or small forward position. Al is a good #1, Foye is a good #3, and I thought Miller would be a better #2. but we need a slasher/scorer type pretty bad right now. Gerald Wallace, anyone?

Jason says:

December 15th, 2008 at 10:39 am

I disagree with you Bryan. Imagine yourself at a job. You get hired, and you are excited to go to work. The first year is kind of rough on you. You’re new, and then you get hurt on the job. You get workman’s comp, which is nice, but you feel guilty because you just started. It takes you forever to get healthy, then you finally feel good. You go back to work, it takes you a while to shake off the cob webs. Sadly, you have a new boss, he is totally different. He doesn’t like the way you do your job. He stresses you out like crazy, and you are always pressing. Then, you get a new boss again, he wants something completely different again. It’s tough because in your small work group you have the hardest job, and the new bosses and all your setbacks have made you look worse than you are actually capable of… get the picture? Randy Foye is going to be really good some day, I’ve seen the flashes. I just have a feeling, like Billups, he’s going to get it eventually, just not with this franchise.

Roberto El Doucho says:

December 15th, 2008 at 10:55 am

Congratulations Jason!

The winner of the purple Kool-aid drinking contest has come forward!

Greg says:

December 15th, 2008 at 11:03 am

Timberwolves? I didn’t know we still had a team here.

gman12 says:

December 15th, 2008 at 11:26 am

If you do not like the team, then why watch the games and blog here. You can’t do anything to change it, so just watch and enjoy as this young group grows…or find something else to do with your time.

J says:

December 15th, 2008 at 11:36 am

“so just watch and enjoy as this young group grows”

lmao! your kidding right?

J says:

December 15th, 2008 at 11:37 am

“Randy Foye is going to be really good some day, I’ve seen the flashes.”

Again LMAO! you are kidding right?

Roberto El Doucho says:

December 15th, 2008 at 11:40 am

gman,

Thanks, but I believe I’ll continue posting my observations.

Maybe Taylor will temporarily awaken from his senile stupor, and get rid of the cancer some call McHale.

This team will not succeed with McHale anywhere near it.

Eventually, they must remove Millen/McHale.

matt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 12:07 pm

How many games in a row will the wolves have to lose for Taylor to fire McHale and hire Sam Mitchell

Rodman says:

December 15th, 2008 at 12:13 pm

I agree with you Jason. No one thought Billups would be great… he just needed the right system and the right coach. I think Larry Brown made his career. I think Foye has potential.

Chris says:

December 15th, 2008 at 12:14 pm

How many shots can a basketball player miss before you stop calling them a basketball player

Jeff says:

December 15th, 2008 at 12:24 pm

Although last nights game was horrendous to watch there were a couple small things I noticed that looked good. One thing I noticed was Love’s ability to hit that 15 footer from the baseline. I think that shot could become a staple in his game. It’s obvious to me Love has no inside game. He consistently gets his shots stuffed back in his face.

McCants hit spot up jumpers. The shots he always misses is where he comes off a screen. He does manage to get open, but always misses those shots.

Gomes seems to be our only reliable shooter out there, but he made some stupid mistakes on defense.

The problem with the Wolves is their shooting. They do everyhting else right (minus the turnovers). They out rebounded L.A. and out hustled them. Why can’t these guys shoot?

dead end alley says:

December 15th, 2008 at 12:26 pm

Taylor’s next news conference: “I’ve decided to take the advice of a dedicated, persistent, extremely negative, and assinine blogger from Anoka County named Roberto and do the following- fire Kevin McHale, hire a recently fired NBA coach that won’t ever come here because some other team is paying him millions to sit on his couch, trade Brian Cardinal for Carmelo Anthony, and call Memphis and tell them ‘JUST KIDDING’! Thanks for your clear-minded thinking, Roberto El Doucho. Would you like to be our next General Manager?”

matt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

“I agree with you Jason. No one thought Billups would be great… he just needed the right system and the right coach. I think Larry Brown made his career. I think Foye has potential.”

Agreed. It took Billups 7-8 years to become an all-star type player

Jeff says:

December 15th, 2008 at 12:43 pm

Wolves better draft James Harden in next years draft. That’s all I have to say. Then McCants can take a hike.

paul says:

December 15th, 2008 at 12:58 pm

I dont get it. How does McHale keep his job? The owner must be the biggest loser of all- he should stay in business and out of sports. He had a player in Garnett who could lead a team to a championship- gets rid of him for bunch of also rans- keeps a GM through years of losing. Ok keep McHale- fire the owner.

Roberto El Doucho says:

December 15th, 2008 at 1:13 pm

I live in Scott county.

I appreciate your support, but I would have no interest coaching, or managing this collective group of loser (fans included.)

It would be much easier to grow an expansion team. This team is the most disfunctional in pro sports, and you being offended by negative comments is laughable.

Get a life.

BC.Beneke says:

December 15th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

Right now if the draft were to be done today…

Wolves picking

4th - BJ Mullins C
16th - Chase Buddinger SF/SG
21st - DArren Collison PG
30th - Dionte Christmas SG
34th - Nando DiColo PG/SG (France)
42nd - Alonzo Gee SG
46th - Tyrese Rice PG

Brainfreeze says:

December 15th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

I am absolutely no expert on basketball, but my opinion is that Jefferson is not the kind of player that makes those around him better. I don’t believe the Wolves will be a winner again until they a. get a real point guard b. get a wing player that can be the number one scoring option. c. get somebody that can rebound, and defend the post. d. get a veteran leader or two that can actually contribute something off the bench, like Porter and Mitchell once did for a young team. e. and of course relieving Mchale of any and all duties. That is just my opinion, for whatever it’s worth.

chad says:

December 15th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

I don’t think pushing the ball up the court is the problem. WE JUST SUCK!!

Roberto El Doucho says:

December 15th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

I’ll bet the wolves would suck at pulling the ball down the court as well.

I believe Chad and I agree.

BC.Beneke says:

December 15th, 2008 at 1:36 pm

McCants won’t play defense

Foye is a 6th man

Jefferson is a self contained player and not a team guy…

Love and Brewer are still way too young for the NBA (both needed 2 more years to become very good ball players)

Telfair can’t shoot

Gomes would be a great guy off the bench on a good NBA ball club

Mike Miller is a 6th man/4th scorer on a good team.

Carney is kind of an NBA miss… had all the hype, and all the talent, and just never came through…

Cardinal, Madsen, and Collins all are grateful to collect NBA paychecks

Kevin Ollie is a 3rd PG on a bad team… damn… he’s the only guy on this team that is in the proper position.

Kevin McHale is proving to be a better coach than a GM/VP… and he’s 0-3/0-4 lol. I think that says everything.

Glen Taylor… please please please gut this organization before the draft so we can provide a new culture of hope with new blood with all the picks, and all the cash next year…

planetjake says:

December 15th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

“How many games in a row will the wolves have to lose for Taylor to fire McHale and hire Sam Mitchell”

Umm…. I hate to inject reality into these fascinating fantasies but….
Sam Mitchell, and Flip Saunders are both still under contract this season. If they were to take the Wolves job (assuming it would be offered) THEY WOULD NO LONGER RECEIVE THOSE BIG CHECKS FROM THEIR FORMER EMPLOYERS. It’s not happening. In fact nothing, on the management/coaching side, will likely change until after the season is over.

dead end alley says:

December 15th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

Roberto- who’s offended? I’m just pointing out the obvious, that you’re smarter and more important than everyone else.

enjoy your mom’s basement. you might need to pull out the space heater tonight.

Wolves related: they actually have a chance at winning tonight. I predict a 25 point performance from Foye, counterbalancing 0-9 from the field for McCants, and a lucky 1 point win from gifted free throws.

…..We can build this dream together, standing strong forever. Nothing’s gonna stop us now.

matt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

“Wolves better draft James Harden in next years draft. That’s all I have to say. Then McCants can take a hike.”

All I have to say is if they do pick him they better not trade him.

Roberto El Doucho says:

December 15th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

That’s another reason to sign McHale to a long term contract. Reward him for all he’s done!!!!!!!

Butt Fart says:

December 15th, 2008 at 2:35 pm

It makes it hard to win when you are 30th in the league in shooting, in a 30 team league. They don’t have anyone who can consistently make a jump shot, and even layups are exceedingly difficult for this rag tag bunch. For all trhe points in the paint they get, they rarely get to the free throw line, avoiding contact like it’s against the rules. Here’s some advice, boys. If you fake someone into the air, jump into him and create contact and get a foul. It’s so basic and elementary, but we never see any of the Wolves players doing this. Even when KG was here, he avoided contact at all cost. Maybe some decent coaching would help, something the Wolves have never had. Glad I could help, boys.

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

“BC.Beneke says:

December 15th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

Right now if the draft were to be done today…

Wolves picking”

Why wouldn’t we trade the pick for someone currently playing well in the league?

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

We should trade away our #1 for Kaman from the Clippers. He fits McFail’s style of players and also we have a history of trades with the Clipper’s

BC.Beneke says:

December 15th, 2008 at 2:41 pm

We will not sign Mitchell.

he is getting a huge paycheck to not coach in Toronto…

I think we need to hire an entirely new GM/front office.

We let them hire the coach from outside the team. None of our assistant coaches are even allowed to be on the list to be interviewed… though some of them are very great people I’m sure if they aren’t all great guys. I just want to DE-McHale this entire team.

DG784 says:

December 15th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

With all the shooting problems, isn’t it fair to ask why Mike MIller isn’t getting at least 12 shots/game? They need to call plays for him.

i like that craig smith is playing a bigger role.

get rid of mccants NOW. he’s seriously just a pathetic player.

Foye’s numbers have been up over the past few weeks and overall he’s taking it to the hole more, playing with more intensity and assertiveness, and pushing the offense.

I for one think the team has looked quite a bit better since McHale took over. Granted, we’re still losing, but I still am optimistic any time I watch them. Haven’t felt that way in quite a while.

Pointless says:

December 15th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

This team has no identity. Either you run or you play a half court style. Half court teams need point guards, something we dont have. Teams that run need athletes, also something we dont have.

BC.Beneke says:

December 15th, 2008 at 2:48 pm

No way would I trade the picks for current players provided that the McFailedabortions are running the draft or trades.

New management and I will hold my tongue.

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

BC how’s bout’ draft pick for Adam Morrison

jama says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

BC

Where did you get the Wolves picks from? They currently have the 2nd worse record in the league. Also they don’t have a high second round pick, they traded their’s to Detroit a few years back.

jama says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

As bad as the Wolves have it they have twice as many wins as Oklahoma City. How pathetic is that team?

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:08 pm

jama weak division. Sad thing is we aren’t even in last place

twinsfan32 says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

Somebody put up the twolves draft selections for next year. If the twolves draft that mullins kid from ohio state, that will surpass the ndu ebi draft as the worst 1st round pick in team history. That kid is a complete scrub. now i could live with thabeet from uconn with a high pick.

twinsfan32 says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:11 pm

jama- how bad is it that one of Oklahoma City’s wins is against the twolves?

matt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

Should be the top 4 on the Wolves draft board for next year - Please not Mullins!
Griffin, Harden, Rubio, James

matt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

oops… Thabeet probably before James

medschoolmatt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:20 pm

twinsfan - and our last victory came against them only because Miller saved our butts at the last second

medschoolmatt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:23 pm

Draft Strategy 101

if we get the #1 (we are DUE darn it), we draft Griffin and trade him to the highest bidder. If we don’t, we get Thabeet and have McHale work with him on his post-up moves. The rest of him is just amazing - defense, blocked shots, inside presence. If we can’t get him, we go after the best 1 or 2 available (no combo guards thanks).

The rest of the picks we listen on trades. We’d get serviceable (even good) players for them, and we probably wouldn’t get as good a player in the draft.

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

What is everyone talking about Thabeet being drafted. has evertyone forgotten about Tyler Hansborough

BC.Beneke says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:31 pm

Jama,

I came up with that on Thursday of last week.

I did not see a missing pick on the NBA Draft.net that I went to. Also in the Chalmer deal last year they picked up two 2nd round picks from Miami.

We have our 1st, Miami’s first, Utah’s 1st, and the Celtic’s 1st.

Miami has Philedelphia’s 2nd round pick, and Indiana’s 2nd round pick I believe.

So you can toss out the 1st 2nd round pick if you like.

The point is that this team needs PG/SG/C… and with those picks we would be able to address those.

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

tyler hansbrough???

BC.Beneke says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

Jimmy Bee.

I would love to see them get Thabeet if they can’t get Mullins. I have Thabeet as the 3rd best Center in the draft. He is a Mutumbo clone.

As for Adam Morrison. I have to look at his numbers, but so far I just can’t see that unless it’s the 30th pick, or a couple of the 2nd picks.

medschoolmatt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

jimmy

oh I don’t know, maybe because this team already has 6-9 guys who can score? I like him, but he’s not what we need. Love was not what we needed (doesn’t mean i don’t like him), but Thabeet is a LEGIT center, an INSIDE PRESENCE we’ve been craving. It only makes sense to get a guy like that. Either that or a slasher/scorer or a playmaker at the 1

medschoolmatt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:37 pm

BC

wait, whose the top 2 centers? Mullins and someone else?

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:38 pm

NC’s Tyler Hansbrough is whom I will be predicting for the Wolves

BC.Beneke says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

Tyler Hansborough… He should be around in the mid to late 20’s… and with Jefferson and Love… I just don’t see a need for Tyler on this team. He’s a PF off the bench in the NBA… I would guess he ends up going to a team like the Lakers

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

Benekke McHale liked Morrison and with all these draft picks it is a possibility

Roberto El Doucho says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

jama says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

As bad as the Wolves have it they have twice as many wins as Oklahoma City. How pathetic is that team?

Jama,

How long has Oklahoma city had a team?

I believe it’s the wolves 20th season.

Any bets on who makes the playoffs first? You can have the wolves.

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

This is an extremely weak draft class this year. I would personally trade one of the picks for a proven player or a pick and a player for a proven player. Maybe like a Marcus Camby type or a PG

jballer13 says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

Jimmy I really hope the Hansbourough comment was a joke. He would be utterly useless here for obvious reasons. I like Dionte Christmas, especially after watching him light up Tennessee. We will also have to keep an eye on Stephen Curry. Man, that kid can shoot and if he continues to progress as a PG he could be invaluable. However, the big question mark will be his develpment as a PG b/c we definitely don’t need another combo guard.

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:52 pm

I am not laughing McFail likes players with an inside presence and Tyler fits it to a “T”. The Wolves if no one has noticed has a great inside presence but no perimiter shooters. This is because mcFail was an inside presence and wants all the players to be similiar to him in his playing style. Thus Tyler Hansbrough is whom I think they will select

medschoolmatt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:53 pm

Tyler is about as much an inside presence as Love.

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:55 pm

medschoolmatt Love is getting a lot of rebounds so far

jballer13 says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:56 pm

Hansbrough will not be on this team. McHale is out of the front office so how is he going to draft him?

James says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:57 pm

The wolves are playing McHale’s style to a “T”….. giving away every game

medschoolmatt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

jimmy

and Love rebounds better than Tyler in my opinion. what does that tell you?

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

medschoolmatt so does jefferson but it doesn’t mean tyler is not needed. I feel he fits what McHale is trying to do around here.

medschoolmatt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

IF Thabeet, Harden, Curry, and Mullins aren’t available, ok we’ll talk about Hansborough but i just feel he’s already what we have - a PF that can score

medschoolmatt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 4:10 pm

By the way…

I am loving how good offensively Smith is. I just wish he could handle defense a bit better. Same with Al. They make a great tandem but they can’t guard guys that are any where near bigger than they are. At least Smith can cover the smaller/quicker types. Al has bricks for feet.

Any way we get a defensive minded coach to develop that side of the ball for these guys?

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 4:11 pm

Is it true that we drafted Foye because of his ability to close out games? if so when is he going to start closing out games

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

“medschoolmatt Any way we get a defensive minded coach to develop that side of the ball for these guys?”

Strange as it may seem McHale actually was pretty good defensively I guess it hasn’t rubbed off yet

BC.Beneke says:

December 15th, 2008 at 4:17 pm

Medschool.

I should have said 2nd, not 3rd.

I am not sure who the hell I was thinking of, lol.

medschoolmatt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 4:19 pm

jimmy

my thoughts exactly on Foye

guy was electric as a rookie and played great in the 4th; now he’s just terrible. what the heck happened?

same with McCants; besides last night (and even that’s a stretch) he’s been downright horrific. last year he was solid as a 6th man, now his shooting % is just north of mine in pick up games

what happend to them? did they change their shooting motions?

medschoolmatt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

BC

Mullins looks great, but I want defense on this team. Thabeet makes too much sense for us.

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

I would actually keep McCants and give Foye till the end of the year. Give him till the end of the year and if no improvement get rid of him and a pick for a proven player. No more rebuilding please. I feel like if we don’t improve in a hurry the Wolves will leave.

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 4:24 pm

Weak draft class. Trade the pick for a proven player pleeeeeeease

BC.Beneke says:

December 15th, 2008 at 4:25 pm

sorry I was tagged on a blog… and had to put together a list of my top 10 alltime favorite songs, and my top favorite concert moments.

click my link and check it out if you like.

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

BC Beneke it wouldn’t pull up for me. Have a good evening and same bat time same bat channel

jimmy bee says:

December 15th, 2008 at 4:28 pm

Steady pace getting home wins the race

BC.Beneke says:

December 15th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

Jimmy Bee…

I would like to agree with you except I like this year’s draft crop so far.

I like the guys I put on my list way up their now.

I think those guys would all help this team become a better all around team.
…………..

Medschool.

I have been a Thabeet guy since last year when I thought he was going to go out, but if Mullins is the man, and gets picked… we then keep Love at the PF, and we can trade Jefferson and for Jefferson we might be able to get the actual players we need to rebuild this team!

JER HENNEN says:

December 15th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

Pushing it? Try pushing McFail out of the building!

He is patheic and Gaylor loves him. Why?

And Flip as GM and Sam as HC the rest of the way would be excellent! Team could use a black coach!

BC.Beneke says:

December 15th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

The team could use a black coach…

hmmm. They need a coach that can help this team, and I don’t care if he’s black, white, Korean, or from Mars.

I just don’t see Flip or Mitchell here because of the money that is owed to them by the old teams, and how that goes away if they are hired somewhere else.

If you bring in a guy like Avery you get your black coach, and I get my non-wolf, but I think he’s getting bought out as well, and Taylor is cheap.

Most likely out of work guy that would fit the bill is Musselman… though he’s white. I hope that his race wouldn’t disuade you.

White people aren’t all bad. Just because they can’t jump doesn’t mean they can’t coach.

jama says:

December 15th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

BC
This is a horrible draft class. All scouts agree that this is the worst class in at least the last 5 years. There is absolutely no depth in this class.

The Wolves don’t have room for 5 new players on their roster. Mullins has looked horrible so far this year. There is no way he gets picked in the top 5. The only guys guaranteed to get picked in the top 5 right now are Griffin and Rubio with Thabeet getting really close.

David says:

December 15th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

Did Mike Miller play last night? Why did we get him anyway?

It is me, or does he need to start shooting the ball more and stop letting McCants and Foye shoot.

It is just ugly to watch the team play. I can’t imagine they will win another game with McHale as coach.

I just wish this entire team and franchise would disappear but then Zgoda would be out of a job and living with his mom. (Maybe he already is with those awesome, retard glasses)

jama says:

December 15th, 2008 at 5:03 pm

There is no way Jefferson should or will get traded. That is ridiculous. I know he sucks on defensse but his contract isn’t bad and he is still really young. You don’t trade a 23 year old who puts up 20+ points and 10+ rebounds per game.

jballer13 says:

December 15th, 2008 at 5:11 pm

I think this year’s draft will be solid. There seems to be some solid players who have stayed in college long enough to be able to make some sort of contribution right away. I like Harden and Thabeet and think either would be a great fit here. I don’t see any way that Griffin comes here and that’s not just b/c he’s a PF. With OKC playing so terribly and him being from OK, I would bet that David Stern puts some extra Thunder ping pong balls in to make sure he winds up with them (kinda like Lebron in ‘03)

jballer13 says:

December 15th, 2008 at 5:15 pm

Ok that last post didn’t sound quite like I wanted it to:

I think the TOP of this year’s draft will be solid and since we will have a top pick that should bode well for us. Jama I agree about the rest of the draft being a crap shoot.

Len says:

December 15th, 2008 at 6:12 pm

The best thing that fans could do would be to quit going to the games in protest until Glen Taylor fires Kevin McHale.Myself I have stopped watching the team in protest until McHale is gone.

matt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 6:36 pm

What about Ricky Rubio?? I think he could be a mix between Steve Nash and Manu Ginobili. I’d take him if the wolves got the 2nd pick.

chuckie says:

December 15th, 2008 at 6:50 pm

the wolfies have many, many problems. here’s my top ten list:

10. craig smith is a rhino
9. no confidence
8. love is too small to score down low
7. foye has no feel for the passing game
6. sluggish team offense
5. brewer can’t play basketball
4. mccants can’t play basketball
3. too short down low
2. can’t shoot
1. mchale: please retire this hillbilly

ballleague says:

December 15th, 2008 at 7:18 pm

Anyone who has watched the majority of their games this year, can’t help but say that they are performing better under McHale. Look at the previous management (Stein, McClosky) for really bad management. As many mistakes as McHale has made, and he has made many, he doesn’t compare to those guys.
Foye has been significantly better in the last few weeks. I hope McCants keeps putting more effort on defense. Most of the year, that was lacking. He has ability, but hasn’t put forth the effort on the defensive end. I would trade Gomes. He has the least amount of upside of the rest of the young guys, and really doesn’t play defense any better then McCants.

Triton189A says:

December 15th, 2008 at 8:03 pm

Was a Wolves fan, now I’m a Celtics fan.

SLAM-MAN says:

December 15th, 2008 at 8:42 pm

McMillen is really making a difference as Coach. If only they would buy into his system like Taylor buys into it, Then we’d have something. Coach Mchale is all that and a huge bag of Dorito’s. Go Coach Kev! The players ‘Gotta Believe’ (or they’ll get shipped off like your ‘friend’ Flip)

jballer13 says:

December 15th, 2008 at 8:44 pm

matt… Rubio has been the guy that I’ve wanted for a long time but there have been reports that he will wait until the 2010 draft to come over. That could actually work well for us b/c then we could get Harden/Thabeet this year and then Rubio next year.

BC.Beneke says:

December 15th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

The odds of Ricky Rubio coiming out this year is 30/70. The odds are that he comes here to the NBA in 2010 to be the big prize to get his chance hopefully play the role of 2nd prize to the big free agent signings that offseason.

And to those of you who wondered why I had us picking 4th. Two reasons… I made my list Thursday when we were the 4th worst team, and I figured the Wolves wouldn’t get a top 2-3 pick anyways because we never get lucky.

This draft doesn’t have the depth that the last 2-3 drafts have… no kidding… those were two of the best drafts ever. Although the Wolves need SGs and PGs and possibly a SF scorer… and that is what this draft is going to be loaded with.

We don’t have 5 roster spots open, but if we trade Foye, McCants, and don’t resign Madsen, Cardinal, Collins, or Carney… we will have more than enough room, and they will all be cheap enough to keep massive amounts of room on the cap.

BC.Beneke says:

December 15th, 2008 at 8:58 pm

I like Tyrese Rice as a 2nd round PG option. He could be a spectacular option for this team. The kid can play excellent defense, and knows how to pass the ball which is something that most point guards don’t seem to understand anymore… I mean just look at our point guard. He gets 5-6 assists in a game and is happy.

Pooh Richardson use to get 8-12 in a game and he was average. Plus the guy scored 10 points a game!

matt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 9:03 pm

There will be room … Carney (team option), McCants (qualifying offer), Ollie (fa), Booth (fa), and Collins (fa), all probably won’t be back. Madsen and Cardinal are both signed through next year, and the Wolves might as well keep them as their contracts ($9.5 mil combined) expire after next season

medschoolmatt says:

December 15th, 2008 at 9:15 pm

the wolves could easily fill out their roster with youngsters from the draft

problem is - you get one realy good player assuming we finish top 5 (Thabeet!!) then the rest is a crapshoot. most likely the picks won’t be higher than high teens (and we might not even get Utahs); also, we owe a 2nd rounder for the dupre trade, so that is probably out. in addition, the 2 2nd rounders from miami will be the lowest of the 3 they have (so potentially none higher than 40 something).

i like some of the names you threw out there. we must get Thabeet as he is what we’ve needed for ages. Then, trade one of the late 1st rounders (bostons or Utahs) for a nba ready pg like felton or conley (which ever plays better Defense).

then we need to get a solid 2 guard that can slash and score. McCants seems to have forgotten he can do that, so if we don’t get Thabeet (lets hope we do), we’ll draft Harden. If we get Thabeet, we need a 2 guard that can shoot and score (Imagine if we had Chalmers and Mayo…). Then the team will have balance.