Wolves pick up options of Love, Brewer
Posted on November 2nd, 2009 – 3:06 PMBy Mark Wollemann
Not surprisingly, the Wolves picked up the 2010-11 contract options on Kevin Love and Corey Brewer. They did not pick up the 2010 option on F/C Oleksiy Pecherov, one of the players acquired in the draft-day trade with Washington that landed the Wolves Ricky Rubio and cost them Mike Miller and Randy Foye. Pecherov, who started Sunday night in Phoenix, will now become an unrestricted free agent next summer.
Jerry will be on later to update heading into tonight’s game in Los Angeles against the Clippers.
“We are happy to extend Kevin and Corey for next season,” said David Kahn, Timberwolves president of basketball operations. “All of us have been impressed with the determination displayed by both players this summer to make themselves better players through conditioning, hard work and skill development. I believe both have the drive and desire to be special players in this league.
“As for Oleksiy [Pecherov], I spoke to him this morning that he should not interpret this decision as if Coach Rambis and I believe he has no future with our organization. Far from it. Because of our cap flexibility next season, we could re-sign Oleksiy next summer if it is in our mutual interests. He is a young player with potential, who is just seeing significant playing time for the first time in his career.”
142 Responses to "Wolves pick up options of Love, Brewer"
Well done David Kahn. Good decision.
No brainer on both. The ????? is Hollins and Sessions for 7M on books for next year. I hear from Kool-aid gang that Sessions is trade bait if it doesn’t work out here. Not at his pay and playing Triangle O which doesn’t suit him at all. He looks terrible so far. Hollins has 8 rebounds in 60 minutes so far. Didn’t like either move when they went down still don’t. Ellington looks like a 2nd team all-rookie so far, Foo even Jim pete said he was too small on last nights broadcast.
Sessions looks terrible? What, he forgot to shave before the game?? His +/- is WAAAAY better than Flynn’s. What I want to know is, why isn’t he starting? Flynn WILL BE good, but Sessions IS good.
LT
its only about 5 million, definitely less than 6 million. won’t dignify the erst of ur posts with a response,b ut just thot id throw that in there for clarification.
Brewer is terrible! He “air-balled” a freethrow last night! We have a shooting guard who cannot shoot.
Pecherov has a better +/- than Jefferson. Better sit Big Al down, right Dave?
Sean - I’ve never seen you make a stretch like that for a “chop busting” comment…come on, that one was beneath you.
Looking at +/- on a bad team doesn’t really tell you much. It’s fairly common for reserves to have better +/- numbers than starters because of who the reserves are matched up against. I would assert that Flynn has been a better player in two of the three games so far this year (and throughout the preseason, too).
Yes, last night, Sessions was significantly better. Rambis should continue doing what he is doing — starting Flynn and controlling his minutes based on how Flynn and Sessions are playing — until we see a clear and prolonged pattern of Sessions outperforming Flynn. They also should try harder to play the two together.
Has Sessions really looked terrible? Plus it has only been 3 games, how terrible can a player look in that short amount of time?
Does anyone else get a sneaky suspision that Al Jefferson will not be on the Wolves next year?
Med School can you add 2.3M plus 4.1M ? Sorry it’s the year after that they’re on the books for nearly 7M. Only 6.4M for those two jewels next year.
Jama - Depends on the draft.
Thats where they’ll look to find someone who can play with Hollins and Love.
Brewer is a Bust. What a dumb decision. Well the morons who post on here should be happy. Losers.
Jama… you are the 3rd person on this blog to mention the soon-to-be-gone Big Al. Pauly mentioned it earlier today on a different blog post. I completely agree. He doesn’t fit the triangle. And can’t D up. Great deal for a contending team come February.
There is no reason to trade Al before the draft.
brewer has done a really good job so far this year and finally has someone working with him on his shot. people seem to forget he was doin better last year till he missed most of the year with an acl tear. when randy whitman is your head coach when ur a rookie u r set up to fail
Swan
I disagree, it completely depends on who he would be traded for.
The draft is stocked full of bigs, not all Centers but plenty of big 4’s. If the Wolves truly want to become a running team they likely won’t play with a traditional big man anyway.
Would anyone be interested in a trade based around Al for Luol Deng and James Johnson? The salaries match, I think some other compensation would be needed though.
At halftime of the game yesterday they had the All-Access of the Wolves draft and it sounded like Kahn was ready to draft Johnson.
Can someone explain something to me…
Most people here have decided that the triangle does not fit Jefferson, Flynn, and possibly Sessions. If arguebly 3 of your key pieces do not fit the style you are trying to play why not change the style? Shouldn’t your style conform to your strengths instead of highlight your weaknesses?
Also, it was clear that last night what the Wolves were doing was not working and they needed a boost of energy. Why not try playing Flynn and Sessions side by side and see if you have anything there?
it’s been 3 games!!! stop trying to judge everything so quickly. we have a very young team trying to learn a new offense. it’s going to take a while before they get on a role. so stop trying to determine who’s going to get traded and who can’t play in the triangle offense. just be patient.
Flynn and Sessions will be fine in the triangle. Right now, it’s not that they don’t fit, it’s that they just don’t fully understand it yet. It’s not an easy system to learn.
As for Al, if we do trade him, we have to…HAVE TO…get a center in return, because Kevin Love cannot play the 5. Playing a running system with an undersized frontcourt just gets you beat…the Suns proved that three years straight losing to the Spurs.
Plus, the triangle isn’t SSoS. It’s not the Suns or Warriors or Knicks. It’s the Lakers. Think of the pace they play.
Now factor in the sheer size of the top contenders…do we really want to rely on Love to battle KG and Perkins? Bynum and Gasol? Aldridge and Oden? Duncan? Shaq? There’s no way to get ourselves to a competitive level with those teams with Love at center. We’d just be way to small.
Oh, and of course, Dwight Howard. Love stands zero chance of guarding D12.
Hell, Love and Jefferson combined can barely guard him.
Jama - My bad, for some reason I forgot about the 3 year plan and the irrelevance of having a hole in the front court.
I was pretty much saying there isn’t any bigs worth trading Al for that will be available.
Bryan
Of all the teams you mentioned only LA, Portland, and Orlando will be relevant when the Wolves actually compete. Plus I’m not saying Love would be the Center. That clearly would not work, but if you have someone who is a little undersized but very athletic you can make it work.
I agree that it’s only been 3 games and is not time to push the panic button. I actually like what I have seen from Flynn and Sessions. Flynn has the potential to be a real star in this league. My point is that right now we have 1 bone fide star in Al Jefferson. Why handicap him with a system that does not fit his strengths? it would be like not allowing Nash to push the tempo of his team, or not let Shaq post up, or not let the magic shoot 3’s.
If the wolves already made their decision that Jefferson does not fit their style and are planning to trade him that would be one thing, but I highly doubt that that is the plan as of right now.
Bryan - The problem with trading Al for a C is that you are pretty much guaranteeing that you are getting less than what you gave up.
The draft is a better chance to get a big.
If Al is to be traded try and find a good wing + pick + expiring contract.
or you could come up with a trade to the Clips to try and get our first rounder back…
One thing that is different about the Wolves so far this season is that they are working and scrapping throughout the game, even when they are down by 15 or 16.
They did it opening night to pull out the improbable comeback, and they did it again last night when they surprisingly closed to 5 points with 2 minutes remaining. halfway through the 4th it seemed like the game was over, then suddenly they are making a run in the last 5 minutes!
Last year they would have just dropped their heads and given up.
Also, Flynn leads the team in scoring the first two games (and is the most exciting energy guy at the offensive end), then has one mediocre game and people on this blog are ready to replace him? He’s a rookie, for god’s sake, and he looks like he is loaded with promise. Some people are really fickle….
Chris Kaman has looked pretty good lately hasn’t he? 22 points, 10 rebounds.
what about:
Al Jefferson and the Jazz pick
for
Kaman, Thornton, and our pick back
It’s too early to think about trading Jefferson. Let’s see what happens when he is back to 100%, Love is back and playing next to him, and the team is more settled into the new offense.
Al isn’t going to be leading the break, that’s for sure. But he still can play a crucial role for this team at the offensive end. It’s still a pretty small number of possessions that are fast breaks.
Kaman has alway been good when he isn’t injured. The problem is that he is almost always injured.
Jama - ya, but that still leaves three teams, two of which play in our conference and one that’s a division rival.
I’ve always felt that to be the best, you set yourselves up not just to compete, but to be the odds-on favorites whenever you can, and that process starts now. We know those teams will still be there in 2-3 years, so we might as well do as much prep work as we can.
Swan - ah, ok, that explains why you wouldn’t move Al until the draft (I completely agree). The good news is the draft actually has some very good center prospects as well as power forward prospects…Greg Monroe has the high skill level to be a perfect fit in the triangle, and both Solomon Alibi and Jerome Jordan has lock down defensive potential.
Al’s problem isn’t running the floor with the team, it’s taking too much time when he actually gets the ball.
As much as I like Flynn, you gotta be impressed with Jennings
Jennings is more set up to be an early flash. He’s got a more stylish game, and is running in a painfully simple offensive system. But his long term potential, especially as a scorer and defender, aren’t anywhere near what Flynn’s in. It’s like the difference between TJ Ford and Chris Paul.
Bryan
Why do the Wolves have to try to play to the Blazers strengths? Why not make the Blazers adjust to the Wolves style? Can you imagine Oden and Aldridge trying to defend two athletic bigs who can shoot?
jama
which 2 athletic bigs are those? are you considering Deng as one of them?
Anyway, this summer has a lot of possibilities.
Kahn obviously wouldn’t be doing his job if he didn’t at least pitch to LeBron and Wade, but obviously both of them are far outside shots. Probably the only chance we’d have is Wade, and only if we show stellar promise this year and the Heat completely tank.
The player I’m most interested in is Chris Bosh…long, athletic, a good defender, an great rebounder, with the passing game to facilitate in the triangle and the scoring to command double teams.
Better yet, if we can make it a trade scenario where we trade for Bosh and then sign Rudy Gay over the summer (or vice versa…it might actually be easier to trade for Gay).
Then we field a lineup of Flynn, Brewer, Gay, Bosh and either Love or Jefferson in 2010. Sounds good to me.
jama - you always have to play to the opponent defensively. Yes, you can create mismatches for them with your offense, but in the end that doesn’t do any good if you can’t defend them.
The concept of using shooting bigs has already been proven ineffective…first by the Amare/Marion duo that constantly got wasted by the Spurs, then by the Magic last year.
In both cases, it wasn’t ever a lack of offense that cost those teams. Lewis, Amare, Matrix….they all got their scoring numbers in those series. What cost them was a complete inability to defend Duncan, Gasol, Odom and Bynum.
Love can score 20 points drawing Dwight Howard 18 feet from the hoop. Great. Now how does he stop Howard from dunking on him at the other end?
those 2 changes would add at least 25 mill to the payroll (my guess is bosh would be 14-15, Gay 10-11) with the rest of the roster not as filled out. that woudl be roughly 50 million for 9 players (if Al is kept) if im not mistaken and could easily hit the luxury tax threshold with the remaing roster and draft picks. is something like that doable?
It’s doable. If one is traded for, then technically we can disregard the salary cap. Teams can go any amount over the cap to resign their own players. The Grizzlies are in disarray, so it’s anyone’s guess what they’d want for Gay (most likely cap relief…). Financially it’d make more sense to trade Jefferson for Bosh, but I’m guessing the Raptors would be much more interested in Love, based on the makeup of their roster.
The question then is is it worth taking that financial hit. Obviously we’re looking to spend next summer. Just how much?
Personally I think, if we can get both Bosh and Gay, it’d be worth it.
I’m curious why Butler is getting so much more playing time than Thornton for the Clips lately. is the THAT Much more of a defender than Thornton to offset Thorntons offensive contributions? the guy had a very solid stat line last year, but is getting less minutes by the day. he’d be a solid trade target, as he’d be a cheap option at the 3 position.
I wish the Hornets had hung onto Butler long enough for us to snag him instead of Daniels.
Butler’s not a better scorer, but he’s a much better shooter than Thornton. He’s got range.
Thornton, for all his physical gifts, has proven to be a not very smart player. Limited court awareness, poor shot selection, and he doesn’t seem to make a strong effort to be part of the team…he demands more touches than his skill level really warrants.
Butler you can simply send out and trust he’ll do his job. He won’t demand shots but he’ll hit the ones he gets, he’ll move the ball well, and he’s a solid defender.
Given the sorry state of Peja, Mo Pete and Posey, I’m surprised the Hornets traded Butler at all. He did a great job starting at the 2 for them last year.
Wait the Magic shooting bigs weren’t successful? Didn’t they win the East last year?
Well, Gay and the Grizzlies have officially failed to reach a contract agreement. No surprise. Memphis fans say Gay and mayo have been fighting a lot already this season.
Maybe they’ll get so desperate to unload him they’ll trade him to us now….
jama - only because KG didn’t play in the semis. And even then, they got whipped by that Lakers team we have to go through, because of the size difference.
I mean think about it. Even with Love AND Jefferson, we get beat all the time because we lack the size to defend the paint. Look what happened to us last year after Jefferson got hurt and it was just Love. That’s basically what you’re suggesting we build our future towards.
wasn’t there a rumor of Bynum for Rubio? think that trade would still happen?
Doubtful. If Rubio is traded, it’ll be in two years, right before his buyout comes up due.
starting to wish we’d pulled the trigger on that trade…
Maybe….I’m still very wary of Bynum’s injury history and mediocre skill level. Defensively he’s great…but only when healthy and that hasn’t been very often.
We can probably get the same thing in the draft from Jerome Jordan, except more durable and for a fraction of the cost.
so with the contract he has now, there is pretty much no way Rubio could come next year right?
Rambis’s coaching so far has impressed the heck out of me. Prior to him getting here, I kinda saw him as a cult figure / Jack Carlson type guy.
Analysis of the Wolves’ loss to the Suns, Big Al’s struggles, and more:
http://mnhowl.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/quick-little-wolves-big-slow-al-a-mismatch/
It sounds like Gay was asking the Grizzlies for something similar to Granger’s contract in the 5 year $60 million deal. I know the Wolves have that much cap space but is he really worth that much? Plus on the open market he’ll probably get more than that.
He has the potential to be worth that. It’s going to be hard to see though with all the ball hogs in Memphis this year.
The best thing he can do is show genuine effort this year, particularly on defense, because that’s what gets questioned the most in his game.
Rumor has it he and OJ Mayo have been getting into fights this year. Maybe we should try and move Ryan Gomes and our second draft pick for him. Get him here early, plus save ourselves the money we’d have to pay Ryan and that pick to use in free agency.
I know everyone mentions Rudy Gay as a possible in season trade target. Who are some other max-type players that could be had as the season progresses? Who would the Wolves be interested in? Here are some of my ideas.
Andris Biedrins
Luol Deng
Kevin Martin
Josh Smith
Gerald Wallace
It would be nice if they could get Martin for Rubio + Cap Filler + #1.
I have still no faith in the abilities of any of the pick ups this year. I am hoping that the wheeling and dealing is not done. I am not optimistic though, no one wants to play in Minnesota. Money maybe the driving force but a winner would make someone come for less.
I have interest in seeing Rubio traded before we see what he can do. The Grizz might be more interested in Brewer for Gay than Gomes. I can see them trying to trade Gay this season if his atttitude doesn’t get checked at the door. I’m not shure i would give him more than 10 mil a year.
Its going to be slim pickings in FA for the Wolves, they aren’t going to get one of the big name FA so Gay might be thier best option.
I’ve also read the Wolves have interest in Tyrus Thomas and might make him an offer this off season.
I would like a Tyrus thomas. he does add athleticism, albeit a bit undersized. where is this team going to get SIZE to helpe them compete with LA though? any big men worth looking at in FA, the draft, trade, etc?
also, its getting kinda late. wonder when Jerry will have up the pre-game. would be nice to know who the starters are.
Don’t we have enough power forwards?
Tedge
Cardinal and Pech will be gone, and Gomes is more of a 3, so that would leave Al and KLove with Hollins at the 5 mainly.
Love is not a 5. Al really isn’t either. Hollins is soft. If we added Thomas. We would be a lot more athletic and active, but size would still be a major problem.
well al can be a C against plenty of teams. I was meaning Love and Al at the 4 (with Al at some 5 as well) along with Hollins at the 5 for our bigs, meaning we’d need another big at least.
like you say, we do need some size, but lots of teams win without it. the Raptors are doing quite well with Bosch and Bargnani.
When did the last running team win anything? Last years Lakers not a running team, Jordan’s Bulls not a real running team. You got to go back to the Showtime Lakers and they were pretty good in the halfcourt.
You do not trade AJ now while he is coming off an injury. He will get better in the Triangle if Gasol or Shaq can play in it then Jefferson can. Your going to dump a top 3 low post score for Kaman? or other garbage? No, No, No!!!!
Why would we trade for Gay? He is going to be a free agent, if you want him sign him, and don’t lose anything. Unless he says for sure he would resign here, otherwise why give up an asset for something that can leave in 7 months. He would only make us better and hurt our draft pick and not make us good enough to make the playoffs so what would be the point?
I do think eventually Love or Jefferson will not be here past next year. I want to see them play together for about 30-40 games before I decide what I would do, not that it matters what I think, lol.
Gay is restricted.
Insert joke here.
There is some espn insider article regarding AJ that I can’t read because I’m not a member. As much as people tease Pech, he is decisive with the ball when he gets it on offense. That is key for the triangle. That is Jefferson’s big issue with the triangle. He completely stops the train. Let’s see how Love looks in the PF. I think we’ll make our move at the trade deadline.
I agree with others that it’s going to be tough getting value for Al, and someone we need.
Yeah but what if he gets a huge deal from someone after we trade for him, and we feel its way too much(like a max deal from Miami or something)
pech starting again. he will get murdered by Camby…
butler out now instead of thornton. man if only a team could get thornton to not be so selfish, they’d have themselves a special player…
Baron Davis better have a good game, he has been crap as my 4th pick in fantasy. Hopefully Wolves win 130-125 and Davis has 30 pts and 10 asts.
Kudos to the good guys of the board learning not to take the bait of trolls.
Any response to trolls is a waste of the board’s space.
When judging Brewer, try to imagine a 27 year old with a consistent mid-range shot weighing about another 20-25 pounds, and a defensive beast. That’s three years from now. Imagine him defending shooting guards, small forwards, and the occasional outside-shooting power forward (like when he guarded Yi the other night).
oh sheesh; pecherov makes an ill-advised transition 3 pointer and the radio announcer says ‘i think the starting line-up agrees with him’
Mike B. - I’m with you on Corey Brewer as a 27-year-old… except for the part about the 20-25 additional pounds.
Foo
I can see him putting on some more muscle though. he put on 10 lbs one summer (not sure which). the guy is 6-9 and all arms and legs.
Kimbo Slice is starting for the Clips, lol
Baron Davis’ beard is awesome!!!
Adding Chris Kaman (DREADFUL CONTRACT) is the most anti-Kahn idea I’ve ever heard.
someone going to stop Kaman?
oh and while they’re at it, they want to remind pecherov he’s not the Matrix?
There goes the TO category for me this week again with Davis.
C-Note,
You win the beard category though. It makes up for it, kinda like getting a shutout in fantasy baseball.
Yeah if you had Gooden and Deshawn Stevenson from last year with Davis you would kill the facial hair category, lol
Foo
define ‘dreadful’ ? when healthy, kaman provides similar production with more size and defense. his ‘dreadful’ contract is almost 2 mill less per year over the next 2 years than Al’s, AND there isn’t a 15 mill year on the backend like with Al’s. so thats ~18 million in savings over 3 years.
Wow what a shot by Flynn
johnny flynn hitting a 3?
he’s 3-5 this season? whats going on?
Get up Davis
Flynn has out-played Sessions in about every game this season, including pre-season. Maybe Sessions gets last night because Flynn had foul trouble, but Sessions didn’t exactly blow the roof off.
I think people don’t want Kaman because his big, white, bald, and expensive. Doesn’t seem like he’s aging very well. Why would the wolves want to pay a guy like that, when they could get someone with more upside and hair?
Didn’t the Clippers just draft a power forward? Someone kind good, but kinda injured?
honestly, all I am doing is trying to come up with something that is fair for both sides in order for us to get our 1st rounder back.
I don’t understand people criticizing Sessions. He’s a good player. Just watch him. His stats obviously won’t be that impressive because he’s a coming off the bench. But him and Flynn are a huge improvement from last season. We got point guard covered!!!
Medschool -
1. Anytime you need to start your description of a player with, “When healthy,” he is officially dreadful.
2. Like Kaman or not, David Kahn isn’t going to give a 3-year commitment to a player who is always injured.
Kahn could very possibly move Al for a center (I don’t know who necessarily), but it won’t be for an oft-injured center like Kaman. You bring him up every few weeks, which is fine. But it’s just not gonna happen. It would run counter to everything that Kahn has been building.
Plus, Love will have about that much hair left by the time he is 26. We’ve been through enough, do we really need to have a Kamen - Love frontline? Coached by Brian Cardinal?
We ain’t getting that pick back. The Clippers probably value that pick very highly. Like whoever has the Knicks pick this year (utah i think).
Actually, now I’m convinced. The Wolves must get Kaman. Imagine in today’s nba a front court of Kaman, Love, and Cardinal. That team would be NBA champs in 1952.
I shouldn’t hate on Sessions. Just saw somebody on here post that Sessions could start. Flynn can do so much more.
I’m honestly not sweating the 1st-round pick we GAVE to The Clippers. It’s gone, we put enough restrictions on it that it won’t be a VERY high pick and we’ve added a ton of future 1st-rounders over the last few years that it will cushion the loss of our own, whenever The Clips do get it.
I love seeing Brian Cardinal stuff the Rhino twice. Glad he’s gone. Big Butt Jawai is bigger anyway.
whoohoo Jawai
can he start the next game, pretty please Rambis? just to see that behemoth with Al would be nice.
Corey “Boxscore” Brewer is filling it up again… 3 assists, 2 steals, 1 block in 8 minutes.
Your killing me Kaman, dunk the ball to get Davis some more assists.
Flynn tried to make a spectacular play instead of just laying it in
That time he did the right play, and I think Davis should be getting assists for the misses that lead to put backs, lol
Davis don’t take those end of quarters bombs
Wolves look good until the end of the quarters, these young guys will have to learn to close quarters especially the 4th, but it will come with time and exp.
Brewer would make a good safety if he was about 25 lbs more.
Brewer the “Drunken Dribbler”. Broadcasters here in L.A. say that was his nickname at Florida.
Cardinal is a thug.
Rambis has finally figured out that Al needs to play with more length along him (not Craig Smith or Ryan Gomes at the 4), whether Pecherov or Hollins. Rambis’ predecessors never figured that out. Nice to see Al get going in the third quarter. I think he looks sleek without the 30 pounds he lost. As that leg heals he will get better. He looks more decisive tonight and fitting in better in the triangle. I like that he is getting more steals too. Makes up for his troubles in altering shots.
How does Dunleavy keep his job?
The Wolves need to add the Kansas City Athletics to their schedule.
boom goes Ryan Hollins. that wasn’t a ’soft’ dunk was it?
Hollins continues to impress, if he could learn a baby hook, he could be really good in a few years.
now he should know why he’s called the rhino…
That was a bad last play, we could have still gone for a quick 2 with over 10 seconds left to start but they were clearly only looking for the 3.
We gave that one away…
Al was getting beat up on the glass all game, and why is Corey taking 21 shots?
Flynn should have been out there at the end, he is hitting 3’s pretty well so far. The last play should have had:
Al
Gomes/Pecherov
Brewer
Sessions
Flynn
Uggggh… what was the deal we gave Hollins? two years or three? That guy needs to hit the basketball books hard. Nice dunk at the end but, uggh.
Clipper announcers summed it up nice at the end. Who is going to shoot the basketball? Once we get it in to AJ he’s basically alone out there. I thought we got Sasha to help with that.
Flynn was a turnover machine all game. That’s why he didn’t play at all in the third and was taken out immediately in the fourth. He subbed in and had back to back turnovers.
Flynn did look like his hands turned to grease a couple times in that game. Got to take better care. Should be a good learning game for him I hope.
C-Note, wha? Isn’t 5 turnovers by Flynn enough for one game?
I will say Brewer was a beast on defense in that game. And honestly, I’m okay with the shot total. Alternative seems to be to dump it in to AJ and let defenses sag more.
Hollins needs to eat the basketball books and hit the weight room. This is a man’s game.
yeah but we want him to gain the exp of playing in crunch time in close games. If we lose its not that big of a deal, we want to keep his confidence up. Davis had 5 or 6 TO’s and he still plays(hurting my fantasy team in the process) Flynn is still are best playmaker and he should have drove and dished to Gomes or Pav.
*our not “are”
Brewers complete line was impressive. His 5 steals offset Flynn’s 5 turnovers.
Flynn looked like crap the longer he was on the court. Completely out of control, failure to create for others.
C-Note you better take another swig from that bottle, it may help you re-focus.
We still need what we were begging for in the offseason, I think even with the 5-11 line from 3 point land last night we’re still hovering around 25-30% from 3 for the season and only 6 shots from behind the arc tonight. Won’t be long before AJ is 5 tuple teamed.
Flynn is a bright kid but is terribly immature, and it shows on the court.
21 shots it too much for Corey, but it’s not like they were bad shots. Still, ideally we’d have a scoring wing opposite of him so he’d just be forced to shoot less.
But ya, the overall live is very impressive. Rebounded, led us in assists, an impressive number of steals (that he got in impressive fashion), and two blocks for good measure. And only one turnover as well.
And again, despite the bad shooting, he ends up as a positive in the +/- column.
Wasn’t that “sharpshooter” from the Cavs supposed to be a sharp shooter?
Mcfly, enjoying regurgitating my posts?
Flynn’s going to have bad games, you have to let him learn by playing, losing is good for the future at this point. My amount of alcohol consumption at this point should not matter, lol. Flynn needs to play more even when he has bad games. Take him out, have Theus talk to him and coach from the bench and then put him back out there, rinse and repeat.
Peterson, regurgitate (this!)
If you had a brush with greatness, and shared a familiar statement, enjoy it, roll in it, wear it.
^5s all around. I’ll be Flynn learned just about as much watching the end of that game. Made his earlier mistakes more poignant.
Cheers, men, next up Celtics. Time for pick 20 wins yet?
Too bad there isn’t a need for high jump for Hollins. He could pretend there is a rebound on the way up.
I agree that Flynn needs to play a lot but he also needs to know that he will be punished for his mistakes. There are 82 games this year, he will get more than enough chances.
Sessions is only in his 3rd year as well and he will be here for 4 more. If he does the right thing he deserves his minutes. He too is in the growing stages of his career. The forth quarter is something they must earn, it isn’t a right.
I know a lot of people bitched last year that Love played so little but I do think rookies need to keep there minutes down, Mayo came out flying last year and hit wall big time while Love was able to play well the whole season.
Russell Westbrook played a lot as a rookie for OKC and he turned the ball over a ton and they kept him out there in the 4th even though he made a lot of mistakes, I know I had him on fantasy last year and watched a lot of his games. He was great last year and is playing well this year too. I think we should take the same approach with Flynn. Now OKC has a much improved team with Westbrook running the point in crunch time, he did have a 9 TO game on opening night but has bounced back nicely to have 23 asts in 2 games and averaging 16 ppg.
I’m not saying to not play Flynn, but if Flynn is making dumb moves and Sessions is playing a good game he should get the nod during crunch time. The reason I say that is because I think that this year we should spend time developing them equally, Sessions will be around a while and he too has the potential to be a star.
At this point why put all of our eggs in one basket if we don’t have too?
Sessions is only 23 and basically his second year. Ideally we want them both to be stars, right?
Quote Foo: “I’m honestly not sweating the 1st-round pick we GAVE to The Clippers. It’s gone, we put enough restrictions on it that it won’t be a VERY high pick and we’ve added a ton of future 1st-rounders over the last few years that it will cushion the loss of our own, whenever The Clips do get it.”
Foo, That pick becomes unprotected after next season or the year after don’t remember for sure. Chances are though it will be the year the Wolves win the lottery.
I guess I just don’t see as much potential in Sessions as I do Flynn, but I agree on hoping they are both stars.
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